[BUG] HTC Weather Sense 2.1 when using Airave - Hero CDMA Themes and Apps

I've been flipping back and forther between Android with Sense 1.5 and 2.1 and have replicated the bug with the weaher program when using "My Location" and a Sprint Airave.
Although in 1.5 the phone seems to pull the location when using the AAirave through the Airave's GPS, 2.1 seems to pull from the cenral office the Airave connects to.
Has anyone tried porting the HTC weather programs from a 1.5 ROM into a 2.1 ROM? I'll look into it just haven't had the time yet.

This is a documented issue. The Airave's GPS is only used in intitial setup, and your phone never receives information from it.

I'm not questionning that it's documented. The weird thing is is that at least for me the issue comes up only one 2.1 ROMs not with 1.5. I know a prior discussion had some people saying it was occuring with ANY sprint device being used on an Airave.
Because of this I didn't know if maybe someone had figured out that it was tied to either a)the HTC weather software itssef or b(how android 2.1 gets location data as compared to 1.5

pwc realtor said:
I'm not questionning that it's documented. The weird thing is is that at least for me the issue comes up only one 2.1 ROMs not with 1.5. I know a prior discussion had some people saying it was occuring with ANY sprint device being used on an Airave.
Because of this I didn't know if maybe someone had figured out that it was tied to either a)the HTC weather software itssef or b(how android 2.1 gets location data as compared to 1.5
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It has to be b) because HTC Weather gets its data from Google Location Services. Your location will be off in Maps and the browser as well.

TheBiles said:
It has to be b) because HTC Weather gets its data from Google Location Services. Your location will be off in Maps and the browser as well.
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Yeah that makes sense. It's just strange that there's no issues related to this in 1.5 (actualy with 1.5 I get a better location lock using an airave than local cell towers)

READ YOUR AIRAVE DOCUMENTATION! this has been brought up before. Airave usage WILL affect location based services on ANY device. Case closed. Lock this and move on!

mactruc said:
READ YOUR AIRAVE DOCUMENTATION! this has been brought up before. Airave usage WILL affect location based services on ANY device. Case closed. Lock this and move on!
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Good way to help, ass. I'm having the same issue and reading the documentation doesn't help... if you don't know what you're talking about, stick to other threads.
With 1.5 based ROMs the phones were picking up the correct GPS location from Airaves and for some reason if you are on a 2.1 ROM the GPS doesn't get a correct lock for weather. It works fine for maps but not for weather.
edit: I was just poking around in shell and noticed that there are some new .apk's that have to do with the Weather widget that are different from the 1.5 ROMs. I'm going to see if I can see where the WeatherSyncProvider.apk and WeatherAgentService.apk are polling for location. I'll bet there is an error in there that is making it pull up the wrong location...

SupahDave said:
Good way to help, ass. I'm having the same issue and reading the documentation doesn't help... if you don't know what you're talking about, stick to other threads.
With 1.5 based ROMs the phones were picking up the correct GPS location from Airaves and for some reason if you are on a 2.1 ROM the GPS doesn't get a correct lock for weather. It works fine for maps but not for weather.
edit: I was just poking around in shell and noticed that there are some new .apk's that have to do with the Weather widget that are different from the 1.5 ROMs. I'm going to see if I can see where the WeatherSyncProvider.apk and WeatherAgentService.apk are polling for location. I'll bet there is an error in there that is making it pull up the wrong location...
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any luck looking at those sync files? it's seeming like you and I are the only poeple who even acknowledge that its a problem with the weather program and not just blaming it on the Airave

I use an Airave and had the issue until I upgraded the radio on the phone. Since then the location issues on the most recent set of 2.1 roms have been very minor.

mcfarlan said:
I use an Airave and had the issue until I upgraded the radio on the phone. Since then the location issues on the most recent set of 2.1 roms have been very minor.
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Running radio 2.41.05.02.03 and stil having same issues using DmageControl 2.05

pwc realtor said:
any luck looking at those sync files? it's seeming like you and I are the only poeple who even acknowledge that its a problem with the weather program and not just blaming it on the Airave
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I've also been saying that this is exclusive to the 2.1 roms. I've said it until I was blue in the face..... like this guy -->
I've beta tested the airave since it wasn't called an airave, and it's NEVER caused issues with my location services on any phone I've owned.
I can tell you though, in my experience it is NOT based on solely the weather app. I have an app that I wrote to get your geolocation (gps coords) and on the 2.1 roms it has caused a lot of issues. I would get GPS coordinates that put me 30 miles away from where I actually am.
This all changed when I turned off the airave though. So, in my humble opinion, it IS the airave causing the issue, but it's not that cut and dry. It's that coupled with something that Sprint has created that's causing the problem. Here's how I understand it -- the Hero (or any other Sprint phone) will switch to the Airave when a call is being made. It should NOT use it at any other time. However, when I'm in my house, and I update my weather widget OR ANY OTHER APP USING NETWORK BASED LOCATION, it's incorrect. Since I'm not making a call, this should not happen. However, it absolutely does.
For some reason, it is now accessing the airave even when it is not making a call, or at least that's what seems like is happening.

kmartburrito said:
I've also been saying that this is exclusive to the 2.1 roms. I've said it until I was blue in the face..... like this guy -->
I've beta tested the airave since it wasn't called an airave, and it's NEVER caused issues with my location services on any phone I've owned.
I can tell you though, in my experience it is NOT based on solely the weather app. I have an app that I wrote to get your geolocation (gps coords) and on the 2.1 roms it has caused a lot of issues. I would get GPS coordinates that put me 30 miles away from where I actually am.
This all changed when I turned off the airave though. So, in my humble opinion, it IS the airave causing the issue, but it's not that cut and dry. It's that coupled with something that Sprint has created that's causing the problem. Here's how I understand it -- the Hero (or any other Sprint phone) will switch to the Airave when a call is being made. It should NOT use it at any other time. However, when I'm in my house, and I update my weather widget OR ANY OTHER APP USING NETWORK BASED LOCATION, it's incorrect. Since I'm not making a call, this should not happen. However, it absolutely does.
For some reason, it is now accessing the airave even when it is not making a call, or at least that's what seems like is happening.
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If the Hero only conects to the Airave when on an active phone call then wy when I'm at my home using WiFi will the signals bars spike up and the daa switch from EVDO to 1X? Not trying to refute your research just going by what I see.

This appears to be an older thread, but I am wondering if any conclusions have been found.
I have experienced this same issue. I use an app called Setting Profiles that changes the settings on my phone based location (and other things). I love this app, but it quit working properly when I upgraded to 2.1
I can also just open up google maps when I am at home and it bounces be back and forth between home and a location 20+ miles from my house.
It worked fine before the Airave. Worked fine with the Airave and 1.5. Started having issues with the Airave and 2.1
Would love to solve this problem so I can start using the app again.

genuser said:
This appears to be an older thread, but I am wondering if any conclusions have been found.
I have experienced this same issue. I use an app called Setting Profiles that changes the settings on my phone based location (and other things). I love this app, but it quit working properly when I upgraded to 2.1
I can also just open up google maps when I am at home and it bounces be back and forth between home and a location 20+ miles from my house.
It worked fine before the Airave. Worked fine with the Airave and 1.5. Started having issues with the Airave and 2.1
Would love to solve this problem so I can start using the app again.
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From what I understand, this problem should have been occurring from the beginning, as I was told it affects all location services for any sprint phone. It never did this to me when I was on 1.5 though, so I dunno why it changed. My guess is something in the Sprint CDMA Radio for 1.5 was different than in 2.1 and that's allowing the issue to present itself.
As to why it changed when the previous poster was on wifi, I can't answer that one. As I understood it, it should only be using it during a call, but that doesn't seem right either, as location services are messed up at all times. It must have some sort of "heartbeat" signal to make sure it's still connected to the airave or something, or maybe it will connect to 1x data if it needs to. How it was explained to me, however, was that it was only supposed to connect during a call.

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Are these limitations of CDMA, or just the Sprint version? Any way to correct them?

So I just got the Sprint version of the Touch Pro 2. Much to my surprise, it is lacking some functionality of its GSM counterpart.
#1: The Sprint dialer screen has a "Hold" button where the GSM version has an "Add Call" button. It sure was nice being able to instantly and easily conference in 1 or more other parties into a call.
#2: Bing and Google Maps can't instantly detect my position on this Sprint version the way they do on the GSM version. If I go into settings and use GPS to get the location, I have to wait a few minutes for the GPS to locate me. On the GSM version it finds you (presumably by using the cell towers) within about 5 seconds of you opening the app. The "Locate Me" option in Bing is actually greyed out when installing it on the Sprint Touch Pro 2. Is there any way to get this functionality?
#3: This one is not as big of a deal, but the weather app doesn't know where I am. On the GSM version, the weather sets itself to the correct city automatically. You can add another city if you like, but it automatically picks up your current city. I don't care about this one too much, but it would be nice. The other 2 (no "Add Call" and no "Locate Me") are borderline deal breakers for me.
Are these limitations just part of the Sprint ROM, or are they limitations of the CDMA technology itself? If this is a limitation of CDMA itself, then that is a major dissapointment to me. In fact, had I know about this beforehand I probably would have never left AT&T for Sprint. I got caught up in the cheaper pricing, and saw the Sprint version had a 3.5mm jack, but I wasn't aware I would have to give up my Bing/Google Maps and conference calling.
If this is a limitation in CDMA itself, then how on earth can anyone claim this is better than GSM? And also, if this is a limitation of CDMA itself, does anyone know what I would need to do in order to reverse this and port my numbers back to AT&T? Is that even possible or would I have to open a new account? Or if I port to T-Mobile, how long do i have to wait for Sprint to give me a refund on the 4 Touch Pro 2's I just bought?
I guess not too many people have owned the GSM version and the CDMA version, so you don't really see posts mentioning this stuff before you buy the CDMA version. After using the GSM version for several months, I don't know if I can give these features up.
#2 - I click locate me and am found nearly instantly. Takes about 5 seconds for the app to open and gps signal to be acquired. With quick gps it is much quicker.
I know nothing about #1 or #3 sorry.
gsuhr03 said:
#2 - I click locate me and am found nearly instantly. Takes about 5 seconds for the app to open and gps signal to be acquired. With quick gps it is much quicker.
I know nothing about #1 or #3 sorry.
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You have a "Locate Me" option in Bing? What is your GPS set to in Bing's settings menu? I am not getting a locate me option...
I don't know about the conference calling or weather, neither really matter to me, but I can too attest (with Telus at least) that the GPS for Google Maps works very quickly.
Note that, as with any GPS, the first time you acquire a lock it will take a while. Subsequent locks should be much quicker.
As far as the GPS in google, try using the HTC supplied Quick GPS to get the most recent GPS info for your phone, it makes aquiring a signal a lot faster, also you can leave GPS on constantly if you like but it kills the battery the same way leaving bluetooth or wifi on does...
I dont think CDMA is limited o conference call, just not a built in part of the sprint dialer.I didn't even notice it until you brought it up but it's not really a concern for me. I'm sure that once the phone unlocker is out conference calling will be built into a lot of the ROMs people are cooking up...
For the weather I haven't seen an auto location update for CDMA, I haven't used the GSM model so it is interesting to hear that has it, another possible ROM tweak once the unlocker is available.
I will be upgrading my sprint tp2 to have the hd2 or "leo" sense ui which does have the location weather and a lot of other newer things, maybe even conference calling... But if you are not into flashing your phone maybe someone has made or is working on conference call and/or gps weather fix. Goodluck!
SaltyDawg said:
You have a "Locate Me" option in Bing? What is your GPS set to in Bing's settings menu? I am not getting a locate me option...
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in the Bing main menu go to map, and on the maps menu there is an option called, "Track me using GPS", that will put the map onto your location and also allow you to search from your location... alternately on the Bing main menu there is a small line above the icon menu that says "Change Location", click on that then click on "Current GPS"... two different ways to search from your location but by using the map version is does track you as long as you have it selected...
#1: CDMA is limited to 2 calls at once, so you can conference call, but the system requires you to put the first call on hold, then place the second call for conference. It is not as robust as the GSM in this way.
#2: Look for a program called Quick GPS and enable it to download automatically. It will give your GPS an update every week that will assist in speeding up your lock. On my Sprint TP2 I get a lock within 5-10 seconds even indoors!
#3: no idea.
colorado_al said:
#1: CDMA is limited to 2 calls at once, so you can conference call, but the system requires you to put the first call on hold, then place the second call for conference. It is not as robust as the GSM in this way.
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Really? Considering that everything is done telco-side why would there be that limitation?
Re 2 call limit, I don't know the details but that is what I have seen posted here.
Revelation6VIII said:
in the Bing main menu go to map, and on the maps menu there is an option called, "Track me using GPS", that will put the map onto your location and also allow you to search from your location... alternately on the Bing main menu there is a small line above the icon menu that says "Change Location", click on that then click on "Current GPS"... two different ways to search from your location but by using the map version is does track you as long as you have it selected...
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Yeah, I know it works if I have it locate me using the GPS. The problem is, that takes several minutes to get a GPS lock and you can forget about getting a lock indoors.
It seems that Google Maps does indeed work. I just figured it wouldn't because Bing and the weather didn't. But it does. The problem with Google Maps is it is nowhere near as good as Bing.
If you open Google Maps though, notice how it locates you within about 5 seconds or so, even when you are in a basement. That is also what Bing does on a GSM phone.
With Bing being so much better than Google Maps, I would think that it would have full functionality on a WIndows Mobile phone. Especially when Google Maps does have full functionality on the same Windows Mobile phone.
If any of you have access to Microsoft communities, please voice to them that we want Bing to work on the Sprint Touch Pro 2. This is the 3rd largest carrier in the USA, and it is their flagship Windows Mobile phone. Not only that, but Google Maps actually works fine on the same phone, same carrier.
SaltyDawg said:
Yeah, I know it works if I have it locate me using the GPS. The problem is, that takes several minutes to get a GPS lock and you can forget about getting a lock indoors.
It seems that Google Maps does indeed work. I just figured it wouldn't because Bing and the weather didn't. But it does. The problem with Google Maps is it is nowhere near as good as Bing.
If you open Google Maps though, notice how it locates you within about 5 seconds or so, even when you are in a basement. That is also what Bing does on a GSM phone.
With Bing being so much better than Google Maps, I would think that it would have full functionality on a WIndows Mobile phone. Especially when Google Maps does have full functionality on the same Windows Mobile phone.
If any of you have access to Microsoft communities, please voice to them that we want Bing to work on the Sprint Touch Pro 2. This is the 3rd largest carrier in the USA, and it is their flagship Windows Mobile phone. Not only that, but Google Maps actually works fine on the same phone, same carrier.
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I have not had any issue getting a signal using the bing software, I have my phone set to auto download the most recent GPS info using HTC's quick gps, that helps a lot with aquiring a signal in any software...
Revelation6VIII said:
I have not had any issue getting a signal using the bing software, I have my phone set to auto download the most recent GPS info using HTC's quick gps, that helps a lot with aquiring a signal in any software...
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Yeah, I have my quick gps set to auto download too.
I should clarify here...
Tom Tom 7 works fine on my phone. So my GPS is working. Heck, Bing even works if I tell it to find my current location using GPS. Those programs take a few minutes to get a GPS lock though, and will never get a GPS lock if you are in a basement.
Google Maps has my location within about 5 seconds of me opening it- even if I am in a basement. Most of the time Google Maps already has my location by the time the app opens. It uses the cell towers to get your location.
Bing works the same way on a GSM phone. You tap the icon to open it, and it has your position already by the time the app opens. At the most, it will only take 5 seconds or so to locate you- even if you are indoors, in a basement.
You can also go into the settings of Google Maps and tell it to use your GPS, This takes longer than the cell tower location, but gives a more accurate reading. This is aparently the only way to use Bing on a Sprint Touch Pro 2.
On Verizon, Bing works just as fast for me as Google maps. The auto update weather is a function of the version of Touchflo 3d that is shipping with Windows Mobile 6.5 on the A&T phone.you are not going to see it on the Sprint phone until Sprint or the hacking community get that phone updated. For Sprint, their CEO is saying the beginning of 2010. For Verizon, we are hoping in the next couple of weeks.
Techitrucker said:
On Verizon, Bing works just as fast for me as Google maps. The auto update weather is a function of the version of Touchflo 3d that is shipping with Windows Mobile 6.5 on the A&T phone.you are not going to see it on the Sprint phone until Sprint or the hacking community get that phone updated. For Sprint, their CEO is saying the beginning of 2010. For Verizon, we are hoping in the next couple of weeks.
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FYI, the weather app I was talking about is on the Unlocked European version, running the stock WM 6.1 (WWE) and I used it on AT&T in the USA.
As for the Bing, I did some searching after I started this thread, and I found this- posted by a Microsoft rep on 9-21-2009, on a Microsoft owned forum:
http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/.../thread/1a253558-b033-48da-9158-d45b618a6cd2/
"In case this might also help: The Bing team has been tracking and isolating this issue. They reported to me today that Bing does not work with CDMA at this time but they are continuing to investigate what they can do including collaboration with carriers. Note that some CDMA carriers lock GPS/Locate Me for 911 use only, hence some of this limitation issue."
So if yours is working as fast as your Google Maps, you probably have issues with your Google Maps too...
It would be far to easy to say that Microsoft sucks.... but come-on... they've known about issues with finding people on CDMA for months now and there is no sign of a fix. Google can lock on to a CDMA signal and give an approximate location - Why can't Bing?
The market for smartphones was Microsoft's to lose and they have done a marvelous job of doing just that. How can companys with much less resources put forward the amazing operating systems like Apple, Palm and Google and even Nokia, while MS just sits on its hands and loses its market. My next phone will NOT be a Windows phone.
seamus24 said:
It would be far to easy to say that Microsoft sucks.... but come-on... they've known about issues with finding people on CDMA for months now and there is no sign of a fix. Google can lock on to a CDMA signal and give an approximate location - Why can't Bing?
The market for smartphones was Microsoft's to lose and they have done a marvelous job of doing just that. How can companys with much less resources put forward the amazing operating systems like Apple, Palm and Google and even Nokia, while MS just sits on its hands and loses its market. My next phone will NOT be a Windows phone.
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I just hope they get it together. There is no reason why Google Maps should be getting tower location info and Bing can't.
The Imagio that I played with had the Location Weather just like my cooked TP, so I'm guessing you just need to wait for a new ROM. Also, you can hack in a ROM but you can't hack in a 3.5mm jack
i think hes talking about the cell tower triangulation that GSM can do which soon as u get a data connection its finds ur position instantly withing something like 2300meters. im not sure if CDMA can do that. but it is useful somewhat if u dont have a GPS signal it gives u a general location or can search for things nearby
It's called Assisted GPS and both GPRS and CDMA can do it. Telus' CDMA is within 1200ft or 800ft from experience depending on the number of towers it can see.
Telek said:
It's called Assisted GPS and both GPRS and CDMA can do it. Telus' CDMA is within 1200ft or 800ft from experience depending on the number of towers it can see.
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It may technically be possible for CDMA to do it, but the Bing app can't do it on CDMA devices. This is a known limitation that a Microsoft rep posted about over on the Bing forums...

Google My Location

I have recently been having a problem with the Google home page
showing my location. It now will just say "Acquiring Location"
I am running Fresh 1.1 on a Sprint CDMA Hero. Sprint Nav and Google Maps
work fine, Latitude works as well. GPS works fine. But you shouldnt need GPS to use the My Location feature in Google, before it was finding the phone fine based off the network. Any ideas what is up and why i am having
this issue?
Same with me too.
This is happening to me also. Started Friday, well I noticed it then. Oddly enough it still works on the Buzz mobile site. After a quick google, it seems this is affecting Droid owners also. This made me feel a little better :/ Two people in the thread happen to be from Massachusetts like myself. I reflashed, I wiped and same thing 'acquiring location' I think it might be Google's end because it still works for some.
A little update. http://powerdeck.sprint.com Weather section still finds my location.

Fix the gps

How to fix the gps on the Samsung captivates GPS.
Insted of MS Based use MS assissted
Lbstestmode -> application settings -> operation mode-> MS Assisted
Let me know how it gose
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*facepalm*
This does nothing. It makes it marginally better at best (read: not better at all). If you're really having that much trouble, flash to KB1 and use the PlumbBob GPS fix. Those ACTUALLY do something.
For most your suggestion will give them the most lag and least accurate GPS positioning.
I suggest you in stall Adams GPS fix to your phone, that or use ga_D's. (gadnarf_gpstweak_att)
Both are much better than what Samsung has provided...
There is also plumbBob GPS fix, but when I tried his version 2nd Beta 6, my GPS only saw 2 sats with no locks even with 10+ minutes of waiting... I did not try version 1 of his fix.
As for the GPS settings, use either Standalone or MS Based(some drift with this setting, much less than ms assisted) . Set your support server to google, distance to 80 and good luck...
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mwiz123 said:
How to fix the gps on the Samsung captivates GPS.
Insted of MS Based use MS assissted
Lbstestmode -> application settings -> operation mode-> MS Assisted
Let me know how it gose
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MS Assisted = uses cell towers only to determine position. Intended to be used for 'dumb phones' that are not GPS equipped or where only 'coarse' location data is required.
MS Based = uses cell towers to provide approximate location for initial fix, then GPS thereafter.
Thing of it is, Samsung's configuration interface for the GPS is so silly that changes in LbsTestMode don't always really affect anything. If you're getting good results after applying this 'fix' it's just coincidental, or perhaps that you'd finally used GPS long enough to get almanac and ephemerides downloaded over the satellite signal and your GPS was able to function unassisted.
What about this has anything to do with development?
crenshaw1979 said:
For most your suggestion will give them the most lag and least accurate GPS positioning.
I suggest you in stall Adams GPS fix to your phone, that or use ga_D's. (gadnarf_gpstweak_att)
Both are much better than what Samsung has provided...
There is also plumbBob GPS fix, but when I tried his version 2nd Beta 6, my GPS only saw 2 sats with no locks even with 10+ minutes of waiting... I did not try version 1 of his fix.
As for the GPS settings, use either Standalone or MS Based(some drift with this setting, much less than ms assisted) . Set your support server to google, distance to 80 and good luck...
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2.0 is in beta. It's still in development and is very much a work in progress and still has some issues. 1.0 is stable.
Thread moved.
Plumbob GPS fix works.
After flashing continuum, my gps works great (for this phone ). If you check the OP on Continuum in development, it says which gps fix cezar used.
Sent from a place my wife doesn't know about (yet)
After flashing Andromeda v3, the gps works great! Gets a lock and STAYS locked for once!
My personal experiences with MS Assisted and supl.google.com etc are that it works great for a few days... Tracking and all. Then you start to only see satellites and never get a lock...
The GPS on my warranty replacement works great out of the box.
Hooligan63 said:
The GPS on my warranty replacement works great out of the box.
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Would you please be so kind as to post the info on the phone?
What's under "settings-->about phone:
--> Model Number
--> Firmware Version
--> Baseband version
-->Kernel Version and
--> Build Number?
What's under the battery? (aka 1004, 1008, etc -- mine says "1010 rev. 0.4"
Thanks!!
DD
I decided to make this a separate post...
My original phone had all sorts of trouble - GPS was the worst. I don't know what my original one was, I do recall I'd applied the OTA update that was supposed to fix the GPS issue - it didn't.
So I got a warranty replacement phone - it worked fine out of the box, but the next day it was doing the same old crap.
This one came with the OTA update pre-installed. It's a "1010 rev. 0.4" if I'm reading the sticker under the battery correctly...
I read countless pages of stuff online, tried various "fixes" that were posted, all with similar results.
One discussion I read was posted by a guy who claimed some GPS expertise, and indicated that the problem was in the driver - to paraphrase from memory it was something like the cache was getting corrupted and the HW/driver wasn't cleaning it up.
He basically said that they needed to write a new driver, but until hen you could use a 3rd-party app to clear the cache and re-download clean data from the satellites.
I found a (FREE!) app called "GPS Status & Toolbox" by author "EclipSim" (Disclosure: I have NO CONNECTION to this guy, just like his app!)
It has 2 menu options:
"Tools -->Manage A-GPS State-->Reset" and
"Tools -->Manage A-GPS State-->Download"
After doing those, it will usually grab a fix within 15 seconds at most. Once it's "timestamp" is updating every second (you'll see, in the app) I can then switch to Google Maps and it too will get a fix before too long.
Another nice thing about the GPS Status app is that it shows you how many satellites you "see" vs how many you're connected to. When it only sees one or 2, or when it sees a bunch but isn't connecting, you can be sure you need to reset/download again...
This thing DOES eat battery - so it's a good idea to be plugged in, or to kill the app once you've got Maps working the way you need it to...
Yes - it's a PITA to have to do all this to get a basic function of this high-dollar phone to frigging work - but it beats having it NOT work...
Hope this helps someone!
DD
Dedicated_Dad said:
Would you please be so kind as to post the info on the phone?
What's under "settings-->about phone:
--> Model Number
--> Firmware Version
--> Baseband version
-->Kernel Version and
--> Build Number?
What's under the battery? (aka 1004, 1008, etc -- mine says "1010 rev. 0.4"
Thanks!!
DD
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This is a refurb warranty replacement which came loaded with 2.2 Froyo
SGH I897
I897UCKB1
2.6.32.9
1008.
Tested again last night on two rides. Worked great even sitting in the cupholder. Major improvement over my original Captivate which was returned for speaker problems.
not really much better for me.
Connor1 said:
Plumbob GPS fix works.
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it dose try it
Plumbob didnt do much for me. I am pretty well convinced that with the utmost optimization, the crappy hardware in the captivate can operate marginally well at best.
Ryans Plumbob fix does work. Its a much better improvement over stock on defected models. I had a 1009 and it worked great but the tracking and navigation were still buggy unless the phone was placed on the dashboard. (Always had a larger blue circle and would skip at times).
Finally gave up and noticed that the local atnt is a device service center. Went in and got a refurbed 1008 with stock 2.2 and the navigation is excellent. Even sitting in my lap...
I mean you all should still have the 1 year warranty. Just find a service center and exchange your phone. Hell the refurbed one I got was in better cosmic condition then my original.
YoungGun821 said:
After flashing Andromeda v3, the gps works great! Gets a lock and STAYS locked for once!
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I'm running Andromeda3 and my gps sucks!! Could it be google maps?
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I'm running Andromeda3 and my gps sucks!! Could it be google maps?
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i know everyone will tell me im wrong but try running the samsung gps restore app once then remove it from your phone. it is free in the market. and i assure you t doesn't revert to stock settings. atleast not in any location that i am aware of. i have checked the jupiter .xml and secgps.conf and lbs test mode before and after running the app and it doesn't revert anything. but it does seem to clear errors that may be caused by messing with settings without haveing a proper jupiter.xml or config file first. for instance on old roms if i chose msbased mode in lbs test mode it would work for 6 minutes and turn off. even after reverting the settings and clearing gps data the gps would turn off after 6 minutes. running gps restore or doing a factory reset were the only two things that would make my gps work again.
also yes google maps and captivates dont agree with each other 100% of the time. it is thought by some that the gps is recieving interference from the cell antenna (that's one theory at least) so the more data you use as you navigate the more issues you might see if that is true. try a gps app that downloads the maps to the phone. it takes up alot of space but if the app agrees with the phone it is worth it. in the past i had trouble with some aftermarket apps as well while others swore the same apps had solved there navigation problems, so try a few and find one that works. navdroyd is great on my phone.
also, though people are raving about plumb bob's fix, i have more blue circles with it. the problem is the msbased mode. it doesn't work on my phone very well. (back to the data/interference theory) i instead use Da_g's fix the control plane version with lbs test mode supl settings set to control plane and i turn off dynamic accuracy. and i use the kc1 modem. there are other modems with good gps but kc1 has the best call quality of them.

GPS icon going super fast.

Tonight I noticed a pattern on my LG Optimus T running CM7 2.3.5.
If I disable "use wireless networks" under location and the GPS comes up to find my signal (I assume Google Latitude was calling for it even though it was backgrounded?????) it flashes super fast. I'm talking 12-15x a second. It's far faster than the searching for GPS icon we're all used to seeing.
If I re-enable "use wireless networks" it's instantly fine. If I disable it, it goes back to flashing.
I even signed out of Latitude to make sure it wasn't Latitude causing it to act up, but it did the same thing in both scenarios.
What could be causing this? I tried rebooting it, powering off and pulling the battery, etc. Any ideas?
Well, some new findings, and some new questions.
I have no idea what was causing the issue. Someone suggested I may have several GPS apps at once trying to get a grip on my location. I'm not sure what exactly happened but I ended up pulling a recovery from 10 days ago when I backed it up and it took care of the issue.
Moving along... I'm reading that "use wireless networks" helps the GPS antenna to find my location significantly faster since it can hone in on the area instead of the entire globe. Okay, fine. But I noticed something today. Previously I noticed that Google Latitude was wildly inaccurate. Further research after driving up and down the east coast reveals that Google Latitude (using only cell tower triangulation) is actually pretty damn accurate. In fact, it's always triangulated me within 2.5 miles of my location.
Here's the curve ball. Today I had wifi enabled. On a hunch, I opened Latitude. It said I was in Mineola, New York. Uh. No. I'm definitely in the very very southern most area of Pennsylvania you can get (Maryland border is a mere 5 minute bike ride away). I disable wifi, back in PA. I enable wifi, back in New York.
That said, it's obvious my wifi is throwing off the accuracy of Latitude. Personally I can't even find use with Latitude since I'm ALWAYS on wifi with work. Always. There are several buildings many miles apart I could be at, and since I'm always on wifi, the use of this app is really tanked if my wifi is going to throw off co-workers from knowing where I truly am. And this isn't Latitude's fault from what I can tell... something is goofed up in the database (whoever's database it is) that signifies my current wifi = New York when it should have been Pennsylvania, clearly.
So here's my next question - is it possible to separate wifi vs mobile tower triangulation? I noticed on my Android (Optimus T running CM7 2.3.5) that it specifically says:
Use Wireless Networks
Location determined by Wi-Fi and/or mobile networks
Keyword being... "or"...
Any ideas??
Anybody? No dice?

[Q] Incorrect Weather Location; No prediction for hardware keyboard

Hey everyone,
I'm experiencing a couple minor issues with my MyTouch 4G Slide and wanted to see if anyone had any input.
First is the weather location... when I am at work my phone's weather location always gets all weird. It happened with my G2 (before this phone) as well. On the G2, it would show my location as in Japan. With the MT4GS, it shows as Denver CO. It updates when I leave the building, but it is still frustrating for numerous reasons. First, the time on my phone switches to Denver's time zone while at work. It throws me off whenever I look at my phone. Also, after I leave and the location updates, it doesn't update the time zone. I have to go to Settings -> Date and Time, and uncheck and recheck 'Automatic' for it to switch back to the correct time zone. Finally, while Maps will read my location just fine, other location-based apps seem to be thrown off as well.
One other question is about the hardware keyboard. I have Prediction turned on in settings but it never works. It's nice with the hardware keyboard because I can skip the alt+ keypresses for punctuation and it inserts automatically, and it will capitalize I, etc. If I'm not mistaken, this hasn't worked since the recent HTC update that moved us to Google Play Store.
If anyone has fixes and/or other info about these issues, I'd appreciate your input! Thanks so much.
Are you connecting to your work's wi-fi automatically when you are there? It could be that the location information (which would affect weather and time) is using your IP address info. I know when I connect to my wi-fi at home, it will alter my location to a nearby suburb.
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Are you connecting to your work's wi-fi automatically when you are there? It could be that the location information (which would affect weather and time) is using your IP address info. I know when I connect to my wi-fi at home, it will alter my location to a nearby suburb.
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I wish! Our WiFi doesn't even show up on my phone... they must have the SSID hidden. I think it's because the building is older, and it must have lots of concrete or something because radios, cell phones, etc don't work well in here. Mine only works because my desk is right by the main entry door and a few windows. I'm assuming that the GPS signal could get thrown off by that as well. I'm just hoping since Maps can locate me that maybe I could fix the rest of the location-based services.
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I wish! Our WiFi doesn't even show up on my phone... they must have the SSID hidden. I think it's because the building is older, and it must have lots of concrete or something because radios, cell phones, etc don't work well in here. Mine only works because my desk is right by the main entry door and a few windows. I'm assuming that the GPS signal could get thrown off by that as well. I'm just hoping since Maps can locate me that maybe I could fix the rest of the location-based services.
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It may not even be getting a GPS signal, instead relying upon the location data of the celltower you're linked with. I've seen the location info being off by neighborhoods, but not to the extreme you've mentioned.
Uncheck the automatic update, then it will stay in the right timezone.
Also, I use swiftkey x, it has the best word prediction, and works great with the hardware keyboard.
yellowjacket1981 said:
Uncheck the automatic update, then it will stay in the right timezone.
Also, I use swiftkey x, it has the best word prediction, and works great with the hardware keyboard.
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Thank you for the recommendation! The app is downloading now and I'm already excited because of the amazing reviews it got. I'm sure I'll love it. I was hesitant to uncheck the automatic setting because I want it to sync the time... but now that I think about it, once the time is set from the network... why would it need to sync? Unless I do a battery pull or something.

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