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Htc Home and Mobile Shell

Upgrading bug is biting again!(Thanks Whiterat). But does anyone else use Mobile Shell as well as the HTC Home screen?
Not much space left on today screen. does any one run the 2 together. Most new ROMs seem to incorporate HTC Home into them.

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In case any one is interested?
Bit the bug installed Wrcx2. Installed SPB Mobile Shell, Looks Ok removed some tabs, Weather and Phone, prefer menu system on MS easier to add shortcuts.
Enough room on Today screen for BatteryStatus, 2 lines and Gprs counter 1 line.
Deleted image off today screen went for plain Black background.

I use both and with some customixing they work great how do you like the wrcx2 are you having any issues ?

Works great on mine check the screeny to see how mine is laid out. I set PocketBreeze as my PIM and set the screen to go all the way to the bottom so when i activate mobile shell tabs they overlay the HTC home screen so its a nice clean look when the tabs are active.
Cingular 8125 G4 CID Locked
AT&T US
NBD V8.2
IPL/SPL 2.25.001
GSM 02.25.11

Wcrx 2 is the best IMO i've tried. Stable, memory great(don't need to S/R as often to release memory)
Recommend to all.

@evilito
ho do you have done it?
I can't place the Home and shell in this order!

vwp said:
@evilito
ho do you have done it?
I can't place the Home and shell in this order!
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under settings go to today and then move the items to the be in the order you want them to be in.

Manilla or SPB Shell 2.1?

I haven't found any threads directly comparing the two... I'm tired of the boring today screen and even HTC Home. Which is better on the Wizard Manilla 2D or SPB Shell 2.1? I've tried Manilla and I really like it but it takes up a lot of resources and disables some apps I've come to rely on. (Battery Status, and Smartskey) I wanted to get some opinions before shelling (he he) out the greenbacks for SPB Shell.

What a stupid question!!!
Well don't I feel like an ass... Here you guys just got Manilla working on the Wizard and I'm asking which is better. I've seen threads for Manilla for a while now and never read any of them. I wasn't really interested in Manilla until I was browsing around and saw some of the skins. I thought I'd give it a try. Since I just went in last night and downloaded it and installed it with no problem, I assumed it has been working on Wizard for a while. In my defence I did search for a comparison but found none.

i vote foe manila
Iv tryed both and Manila is wey cooler and in new to wizard, bur SPB Shell its much much usfull so its your choice

i was a big spb mobile shell user when it 2+ first hit......I must admit...I now use Noonski's rom and I enjoy the device much much more...it's somehow made for our device where as mobile shell is universal plus with all the skins and clocks being rapidly designed and made available you can have whatever flavor you like....as with mobile shell....seems lately the designs are all just versions of the same concept...where m2d is fresh and to me faster as it is cooked into the rom...I had about 43 megs left on mine after flashing and right now I'm just trying to streamline and keep about half that while piling on the goodies I usually enjoy in my phone...using a 2g sd card I'm able to run much from there....unless mobile shell upgrades to 3 I'm going to say m2d wins

wyzepro said:
i was a big spb mobile shell user when it 2+ first hit......I must admit...I now use Noonski's rom and I enjoy the device much much more...it's somehow made for our device where as mobile shell is universal plus with all the skins and clocks being rapidly designed and made available you can have whatever flavor you like....as with mobile shell....seems lately the designs are all just versions of the same concept...where m2d is fresh and to me faster as it is cooked into the rom...I had about 43 megs left on mine after flashing and right now I'm just trying to streamline and keep about half that while piling on the goodies I usually enjoy in my phone...using a 2g sd card I'm able to run much from there....unless mobile shell upgrades to 3 I'm going to say m2d wins
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I had forgotten all about this question. Thanks for the answers. I'm back on the kick again and I was wondering if you still feel the same? I have tried M2D as a add on and cooked directly into the ROM. I have still yet to try SPB Mobile Shell. I may just get off the fence and do it. Worse thing could happen is I have to flash back to my HTC Home.

mr.incredible said:
I haven't found any threads directly comparing the two... I'm tired of the boring today screen and even HTC Home. Which is better on the Wizard Manilla 2D or SPB Shell 2.1? I've tried Manilla and I really like it but it takes up a lot of resources and disables some apps I've come to rely on. (Battery Status, and Smartskey) I wanted to get some opinions before shelling (he he) out the greenbacks for SPB Shell.
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I tested twice solutions, it's my opinion:
M2D:
Positive
- Very excellent look
- Very fast, reponsive
- Switch window animated
- Several weather cities
- Most smart panel
Negative
- Memory leak
- Not stable (plugin reboots unexpectly)
- Memory used (+15Mb storage and +8Mb ram) with all apps needed
- Seems doen't work with S2U2
- Get pad action when using other programs
- Task switch to front automaticaly
- Landscape problems
- cannot show multiple calendar events
- poor weather city
- Must install all HTC programs (music player, pictures, ...)
SPB shell 2.1
Positive
- Less storage and ram memory (- 5Mb ram)
- Compatible S2U2
- Skinable (look of M2D, Xperia X1, WM7)
- Stable
- Cities for weather (Valenciennes is in the list)
Negative
- Less responsive
- M2D skin very slow
- Only one city for the weather
- S2U2 weather does not work
- Cannot have the standard windows taskbar and softkeys
- Today SPB plugin different with M2D today skin window.
- Strange organization of functions...
In conclusion, there is no perfect version, I reloaded Clean Rom and re-used standard WM today screen (battery status, calendar, time, messaging...)

ed_bracam said:
Negative
- Memory leak
- Not stable (plugin reboots unexpectly)
- Memory used (+15Mb storage and +8Mb ram) with all apps needed
- Must install all HTC programs (music player, pictures, ...)
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1) Yes there is a bit of a memory leak but with tools like QuickMenu and Oxios Hibernate you can reclaim this
2) The issues with this plugin being unstable can be overlooked by the price tag
3) What taskmanager are you using ? M2D Built into wizflo weighs in at 5mb storage and 3.5 mb ram.
4) You dont need all the HTC Programs, use M2DC to disable the tabs you dont use

Great info guys. That is the kind of input I've been looking for. Thanks.

mr.incredible said:
Great info guys. That is the kind of input I've been looking for. Thanks.
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I have tried SPB Mobile Shell many times i made my custom made configuration and i think it works great, i have never had problems with it. I was wondering that it worked fast enough on HTC Wizard. No problems with cities in weather. It consumes a bit more of RAM and storage and it is necessary to install it in the device memory. Another bad thing about SPB mobile shell is that after installing it on the Wizard it booted very slowly after soft reset it took about 2 minutes until the device boot up. But anyway all these apps M2D, SPB Mobile Shell, TouchFLO etc are looking great but i do not like em. I like standard WM today screen with battery status, messages, today agenda, it is the only way to see all the necessary things on the today screen!

BEtter?
M2D is free..
spb yooou have to buy....
I am a believer of the bet things in life are free...

The NO TF3D Customization thread

I was just wondering how many people do not run the TF3D program on their TP or Fuze? And to those who do not run it what do your home screens look like? WHat programs do you customize your phone with? Just wondering cause I was going to get off the TF3D wagon for a while just for a change.

I use SPB shell and suite.

After a week with the Tilt, the excitement of TF3D wore off, so I finally removed it from the phone. I'm now running a VGA version of HTC Home, which I really like. Of course, nothing is perfect, and current problems are:
1. No customization program for VGA version of HTC Home
2. Contacts tab doesn't work (don't care about this, as I don't use that tab anyway)
3. Weather tab works, but available cities are limited
4. Program launcher tab only has room for 9 programs
Below the HTC Home section of my main screen, I also have my calendar, a Live Search plugin (for web searches right from the desktop), and a device locking button.
The only thing I miss from TF3D is the Intenet tab; I liked having the tab list my favorite pages.
- DDB

Upgraded to wm6.1 missing clock..

Hi,
I have just the otherday managed to upgrade my HTC Touch to an actual official WM6.1 OS supplied by HTC (belive it or not!). Since I bought the phone in Bangkok I have had to wait for the relese of the HTC Thailand upgrade.
It included the ThouchFLO 2d (which I recon sux....can't change a thing about it), but I really liked the big clock in wm6.0. Is there a way to download a file somewhere to get the clock (a clock) to show up at the "settings/today/items"?
I have had a look at the Throttle launcher, M2D but can't really get any of them to work properly....anyone have any ideas or suggestions?
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my device:
HTC Touch P3452 ELF0100, WM6.1 CE OS 5.2.19972 (build 19972.1.2.7)
ROM 3.07.707.02 WWE, 10/25/08
Radio 03.34.90

Not sure what you mean about big clock but do a search for HTC Home plug-in (I think the latest cab is version 2.1) and see if that is what you are after. Otherwise, have you tried the Manila 2D customizer tool (M2DC)? I don't know if it works on shipped roms TF2D but it might let you change certain aspects of TF2D.
Good luck

Hi,
Yes sorry for being a bit unclear....what I ment was ofcourse the digital clock display at the HTC Default Home screen. I have tried the HTC Home plug-in but it, as for so many others (feedback) freezes and forces me to hard reset.
The problem occurs when I turn off the Touchflo 2D in favour of other themes, I get no option to display a clock on the today screen (under items to display). Hence downloaded themes comes out as plain as can be without anything but a background, start and bottom bar.
I would like to have a digital clock display as for the previous HTC Default Home screen....or similar clock at least.
I read somewhere that you could display/hide the clock by changing registry values under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\CHome\CClock, Disabled to 0, as per this website. I have chacked in that location but found no such registry value named cclock.
Staring to think I might be actually a bit stupid for missing something very simple.....you never know until someone tells you!
I hope I made myself a bit more clear...
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Well it sounds like you know what you are doing so I don't want to sound too "teachy". But what you are doing in the Item screen is turning off a Today plug-in (TF2D). AFAIK, everything that would appear on the Today screen is displayed as a plug-in. Your rom opted to show the TF2D plug-in. This plug-in overrides all others in the item screen so in order to use another plug-in, you must uncheck the TF2D plug-in. So with no plug-ins selected, you will have a blank Today screen.
There are several plug-ins you can install as alternatives to TF2D such as HTC Home, RLToday, etc. Just query Today plug-ins. Once installed you can initialise them from the Items screen. It is a little worrying that HTC Home crashes on your device. You might try a soft reset (small hole, poke with stylus) or uninstall it and reinstall it. It might be that you've run out of Program memory (Settings-->System--Memory). A soft reset will free it up again. I hope some of this is helpful.

profile switcher for CHome LIKE SPB Phone Suite

Here's what I have:
Fuze/ATT
ROM - Windows Mobile® 6.5.x
CE OS 5.2.23533 (Build 23541.5.5.0)
Radio - 1.14.25.35
Protocol - 52.64c.25.35U
The Captain's Special - Sense 2.1 - Build 23541 - FUZE Edition
I like the CHome setup ... but.
I use SPB phone suite, and SPB has basically said they have no interest in dealing with titanium - they are only supporting it as a today screen plugin.
So, it looks like my best bet to have the functionality of all three things (if I want it) is to use TFDetacher AND SecondToday, have second today run phone suite and launch on start up, and have TFDetacher load the WindowsDefault home screen with TF3D as a toggled item.
My question to you:
Do you know of any profile switcher program designed as a titanium plugin that I could then use CHome Editor to add to the home screen?
The functionality that phone suite has, that I have not seen in other programs like phoneweaver, is to establish whitelists and blacklists of phone numbers that can be tied to a time based profile, so that, for example, only family can reach me at night ....
edited to add:
It seems to be working with Co0kie's Home Tab, and second today set as a quick link, WITHOUT telling it to run at start up.
I'd still like to find something that can become a Titanium plugin, because right now, I am NOT using TFDetacher because having that and SecondToday running at the same time seemed to be wicked laggy (yes, I'm in Boston).