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Update: I dont recommend you get this, the gel one at the bottom of this post is decent.
Finally recieved my case: "Black Rubber Hard Cover Case For Google HTC Nexus One" Link to store/ebay.
Pros:
1) cost: $3.55 shipped
2) fits better in my hand. The phone was too thin and slippery earlier
3) still fits in the sleeve. Very tight fit. Update: don't need/use the sleeve anymore.
Cons:
1) The edge where the two halves snaps together is not as seamless as I hoped. Not too visible but you can feel the sharp edges when you hold it.
2) Its harder than I expected. It wont provide much shock-cushioning if I drop it.
3) Shipping took 20 days.
Update: 5/7/10
-Dropped it a few times after using it and it protected the phone. The case splits open when dropped.
-I don't feel/hear the "clink" sound the uncovered phone makes when placed on hard surfaces.
-I'm saving a lot of time by not using the sleeve. The sleeve is not needed with this. (I have a screen protector too)
-The grip of the phone is excellent.
Update: 6/2/10
- the smooth finish on the case is just a thin layer. underneath is brittle, shiny black plastic.
- my case has lost a piece on the top right and that part does not hold together very well. Maybe one of the drops cracked it..
- ordered a gel case from amazon. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003343AR0
nice. I have one something like this but it doesnt come up so much to the trackball.
Two reasons I will never consider putting my N1 in such a case:
Poor heat dissipation. The phone can get warm with heavy use. In a rubber case it WILL get hot, especially during warm weather. Add to that the confines of a pocket and trouble can easily follow. The screen can crack from heat alone, without any external pressure.
It won't fit into the car dock.
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Two reasons I will never consider putting my N1 in such a case:
Poor heat dissipation. The phone can get warm with heavy use. In a rubber case it WILL get hot, especially during warm weather. Add to that the confines of a pocket and trouble can easily follow. The screen can crack from heat alone, without any external pressure.
It won't fit into the car dock.
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1) I have a setcpu profile set at 49C
2) Fits perfectly in my ebay car mount
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1) I have a setcpu profile set at 49C
2) Fits perfectly in my ebay car mount
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1) So it underclocks the CPU when it gets too hot? Nice, I never thought of doing that with SetCPU.
2) I should've been more specific. It wouldn't fit into the Google's official Car Dock. I paid $55 for that thing, so I'll be damned if I don't use if because of a case
yes it underclocks when it gets hot.
I understood what you meant, thats why I used "mount" instead of dock
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1) So it underclocks the CPU when it gets too hot? Nice, I never thought of doing that with SetCPU.
2) I should've been more specific. It wouldn't fit into the Google's official Car Dock. I paid $55 for that thing, so I'll be damned if I don't use if because of a case
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Of course you can use it, all you have to do is remove the case. When you are done put the case back on the phone. It may "seem" like a lot of work but it really isn't not that bad at all.
I will never understand why people insist on putting hideous ugly cases on their slim and sexy phones. The iPhone suffers from this and so does the Nexus.
You DO realize these phone are designed and tested to be carried as is, right?
Cases are worthless and make your phone ugly and bulky :-\
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I will never understand why people insist on putting hideous ugly cases on their slim and sexy phones. The iPhone suffers from this and so does the Nexus.
You DO realize these phone are designed and tested to be carried as is, right?
Cases are worthless and make your phone ugly and bulky :-\
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You do realize your feet are designed for walking barefoot right?
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You do realize your feet are designed for walking barefoot right?
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ROFL!
GldRush98, I also hate putting stuff on the phone for "safety" purposes, but you gotta do it for resell/longevity purposes. I got the case-mate gelli one, but that rubber one of yours looks nicer britoso. On second though, nah!
I absolutely hate having to use a case and a screen protector, but I do it for the resale value. My blackberry got trashed and a case and screen protector would have netted me $300+ for resale.
I believe its even more important for the N1. IMO the N1 will hold more value for longer than your average smart phone. Although I have no data to back that up.
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I will never understand why people insist on putting hideous ugly cases on their slim and sexy phones. The iPhone suffers from this and so does the Nexus.
You DO realize these phone are designed and tested to be carried as is, right?
Cases are worthless and make your phone ugly and bulky :-\
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I have ACCIDENTALLY dropped 2 iphones and shattered screens in 3 yrs with NO case. Both times it was in my lap when i got out of the car. Both times i had a case for it, but wanted the sexiness that particular day. Not a long drop at all. After putting an ugly bulky otter box on it, i've actually thrown it across the room numerous times to show how durable it is. I do agree they are sexy without the case. But sometimes a hideous case to save yourself a few hundred bucks (or more) is a great idea. To say you could "never understand why" and "Cases are worthless" insinuates you might be quite slow and need descriptive answers or examples so you CAN "understand why." understand now? oh and some cases are actually quite sexy, otterbox NOT being one of them. Case-Mate has some nice ones with different color rubber inserts. 3 people today told me my phone matched my shirt lol
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Updated the OP again. Recommend you do not order this hard case.
Posted a link to an amazon gel case I just ordered. <$3 shipped
Would you be willing to purchase the Epic 4G rugged combo if it does not allow keyboard accessibility?
No, that sounds stupid to me, just get a T-mobile Vibrant then and be done. It would be a thick ass heavy phone to carry around if that was done. Dont buy a phone with a keyboard, if you dont ever plan on using it.
I agree, they sent me the same question and I responded no. I bought this phone for the keyboard, why would I buy a product that deters from using it?
Sent it to me also.
I said i would not buy it.
Some people really want a case that will do this because they don't use the keyboard. But I do so I wouldn't buy it.
hell no id like a case like the incredible where it is two pieces that go together and come off easily
So for some of us, changing to another carrier just to get a non-keyboard version of the same phone is not an option (not to mention extremely stupid). Why would you get a phone with a keyboard when you aren't going to use it? Because this thing dominates the Evo in every way imaginable. Do I want a keyboard on my phone? No. Will I deal with it because of the ten million other things that are better than with the Evo? Absolutely. This case would be fantastic for the multitude of people that don't want to change carriers, but want an excellent phone while not needing or wanting a keyboard.
theres the evo for no keyboard
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So for some of us, changing to another carrier just to get a non-keyboard version of the same phone is not an option (not to mention extremely stupid). Why would you get a phone with a keyboard when you aren't going to use it? Because this thing dominates the Evo in every way imaginable. Do I want a keyboard on my phone? No. Will I deal with it because of the ten million other things that are better than with the Evo? Absolutely. This case would be fantastic for the multitude of people that don't want to change carriers, but want an excellent phone while not needing or wanting a keyboard.
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Well said my friend, I agree with your point that if you don't use the keyboard, then why not get a case that disables it? And yes, this phone dominates the Evo ;-)
Not unless the device keyboard is accessible somehow with an very easy case removal process.
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Not unless the device keyboard is accessible somehow with an very easy case removal process.
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Well you guys have understand that there not making a regular case. There making a case that has the same and sometimes better protection then the Otterbox Defenders Case. I just told them i would only buy the case if there was some simple method of accessing the keyboard. I told them to add some quick locks that would protect the sliding mechanism gap. That when you want to use the keyboard just sliding the locks down which would also slide the protection cover that covers the keyboard and screen space. But i do agree that theres no point of a case that prevents one of the main features of the phone. But hey atleast there trying to make a tough case not like Otterbox that takes forever to make a simple case that the bezel tabs always breaks off.
The 2-piece design of the Epic is its greatest weakness. If you want a truly rugged case, it has to be able to keep the phone from breaking in half. No 2-piece case can do that.
"Switch carriers" is a very thoughtless answer. Some of us chose Sprint--get ready for this--because we want to use Sprint. The keyboard is NOT the only reason to buy an Epic over an Evo or other Galaxy S phone, as some have pointed out.
If you don't want a truly rugged case, don't buy one like this. Personally, I would buy one like this. The flimsy hinge/slider mechanism is my least favorite part of the Epic, and the keyboard has left me less than impressed after using 2 Blackberries anyways.
Okay, I don't think you guys realize exactly what they are talking about.
The Seidio Rugged Case is essentially two cases in one.
It comes with a standard Seidio Surface Case that fits over the phone and can be used any time. As you probably know the keyboard is fully accessible with just this.
However the rugged also comes with another two pieces. It has a silicone outer cover that goes around the surface case and then a hard plastic "exoskeleton" to hold that in place. It also comes with a locking holster for all of it
You probably wouldn't use the outer case all the time but when you needed extra protection you could put it on.
My situation is as follows: I use my Epic for geocaching and for tracking when I'm hiking. I really don't want to put my phone in my pants pocket because I sweat a lot and wouldn't want it to get wet. I also would like for the phone to have better protection when I'm in the woods so if I happen to drop it on a rock it'll have a better chance of surviving. Since I'm probably not going to be doing a lot of emailing and texting in those situations I really don't need the physical keyboard. I can still check my phone and reply if necessary using the on screen one.
The great thing about the seidio rugged case is that whenever I get back to civilization I can take off the outer case and just use the surface case on my phone. Quick and easy removal. I can also slide out the existing keyboard for email and text.
I just think that some of you are looking at this as an only option when it's really giving you better protection when you need it. It's really two cases in one.
Check it out for the Droid X
http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/bd3-hkr4mtdx.htm
I sure hope they get some more folks willing to buy it or I'm screwed...
An ideal Epic compromise would be more or less like you described -- an Innocase that allows the keyboard to slide out, with an optional exoskeleton that locks the keyboard in place and provides extra protection when desired.
HOWEVER, I wouldn't buy one unless it met two further criteria:
1. Silicone (or similarly-pliable-yet-firm) pads to transmit button presses from outside the case directly to the volume, power, and camera buttons inside the case. Protection from dirt and rain is just a nice side-effect; really, I just want it to give the phone a nice, even, solid feel that all the currently-available Epic cases (including Innocase) lack.
I really hate the way the cutouts on the Innocase (and, in all fairness, every other case out right now for the Epic) leave voids that make my fingers fall into exactly the wrong places when I grab the phone and try turning it on with the same hand. One finger (or thumb) ends up groping blindly for the power button, the other side gets supported by the screen, and half the time the shear force ends up pushing the keyboard open by the time the power button itself gets pressed... and the rest of the time, it makes the phone feel disturbingly "jiggly" and makes the phone feel like it's going to get dropped (if it doesn't actually GET dropped occasionally).
2. For the love of god and everything holy, make sure the case can be used with an extended battery. It's bad enough that the Epic's (and Evo's) batteries are criminally undersized and can't make it through a day of normal use without crippling the phone into annoyance and malfunction. Making users spend 5-10 minutes taking apart the case and phone to swap batteries would be a deathblow. Making battery swaps unnecessary for most users would be an ENORMOUSLY compelling feature.
If 3200mAH is too unwieldy for most users, consider meeting halfway -- sell the case with a replacement back and styrofoam padding block that will work with a stock battery, but can also take a battery with ~2200 REAL mAH of power without adding more than ~50% of of the stock battery's thickness... and bundle that battery with the case. If you read the huge thread about cheap extended batteries for the Evo at androidforums.com, two things quickly become obvious:
* Most cheap batteries alleged to be 2700-3500mAH are really ~2200mAH
* 2200mAH is nowhere near as good as Seidio's 3500mAH (that tests out to 2800mAH via the same methods that determined most of the cheap batteries were really 2100-2200mAH), but it's big enough to satisfy just about everyone anyway. If you read that same thread, you can sense that nearly everyone likes the "Chinese" battery back cover better than Seidio's. I remember reading quite a few posts from users who said they'd happily buy a Seidio extended battery AND buy a cheap battery from eBay just to get the back cover and use it instead (with a few going so far as to try modding the Chinese cover to fit over Seidio's slightly-larger battery anyway).
Assuming ~2200-2400mAH batteries that are ~1.5 times as thick as the stock battery exist, that's a nice compromise between the (admittedly) huge double-sized batteries and the inadequately-sized stock batteries. Given the inherent bulk a case with exoskeleton is going to have *anyway*, I seriously doubt anyone is going to complain about an extra 1.5mm of thickness if it means they can leave the battery charger at home and start using their phone normally again.
Idea: if the battery dimensions are somewhat constrained by stock sizes made by someone in China, combine two different sizes of cells and wire them in parallel... one size that produces a bundle the size of the stock battery, and another size that's larger, but thinner, and overflows the stock battery's footprint to make better use of the phone's rear surface area and spread out the volume over a larger area. Personally, I'm perfectly cool with having to remove the battery to swap microSD cards (so the battery can rest above it), because I run with a swapfile anyway, and Android will go down in flames and crash if I try removing the microSD card while the phone is booted up *anyway*.
The foam block is still important, even if the extended battery is included, because it will enable someone who has the rugged case and extended battery to still use his stock battery to fall back on in a pinch if the extended battery dies before the day is over.
A case like this would give Seidio something compelling and unique that no competitor is likely to offer anytime soon -- a total solution that bumps up battery life enough to permit easy all-day usage by most real-world users, permits keyboard use under normal circumstances, and enables the keyboard to be secured in place with an exoskeleton by users who don't want to use it at all, or who temporarily need to sacrifice it for the sake of protection.
Seidio has competitors that sell high-end cases (like Otterbox), but they don't sell batteries, and none of their cases can accommodate an extended battery. We all know that for stuff like this, the shipping, handling, and packaging ends up being a huge chunk of the total cost. By bundling it all together as a total solution, users can solve multiple real-world problems (protection AND battery life) in a way that's cost-effective and convenient.
The only way it could be even better is if Seidio got in touch with the guy who makes the GameGrip, and bought a batch from him that were customized to fit an Epic with Innocase-underbody when the exoskeleton is removed and the keyboard is out (with extended battery in place).
Great responses and have been forwarding them!
Here is what I want: I want the rugged to disable to keyboard function. I want a case that's going to be able to be throw across the room without worrying if the slide out is going to open leaving the phone vunerable to being snapped in half. At work my phone could easy get tossed around and broken if it opened.
Here are my 2 cents: The rugged comes with the innocase. That's going to be 2 peice correct? You can always take off the exterior layers and have they keyboard. The rugged would only be used for rugged scenrios. If you want that case, however, and want the keyboard to open: get the active...
I really want this case and have been sticking it out. I was about to order the active (since they took the rugged off the site) until I saw this posts around. I want my phone to be as rugged as possible. I don't want to have to worry about taking my phone out of my pocket every time I go running; or, what will happen to it if I don't get the chance to take it out of my pocket. And the holster (from what I read before it was taken off the site) is supposed to fit a 2 inch duty belt. 8-D
id like a two piece that comes off easily
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I would buy a regular Innocase for the Epic that disabled the keyboard function.
For this to work in the masses, it would have to have an internal case (silicone/whatever) that allows for keyboard operation, and the exoskeleton (THAT IS EASILY DETACHABLE, like the iPhone4 innocase design) that would be a complete encasement (vice the touch screen and capacitive buttons) for the phone.
I would absolutely LOVE a regular case/belt clip combo that would completely encase the phone and disable the keyboard functionality. I would switch to the Evo in a heartbeat if I could, or another provider to get another Galaxy S variant, because I am really disappointed in the keyboard and slider mechanism of the Epic. Great phone overall, though.
scriz said:
I would buy a regular Innocase for the Epic that disabled the keyboard function.
For this to work in the masses, it would have to have an internal case (silicone/whatever) that allows for keyboard operation, and the exoskeleton (THAT IS EASILY DETACHABLE, like the iPhone4 innocase design) that would be a complete encasement (vice the touch screen and capacitive buttons) for the phone.
I would absolutely LOVE a regular case/belt clip combo that would completely encase the phone and disable the keyboard functionality. I would switch to the Evo in a heartbeat if I could, or another provider to get another Galaxy S variant, because I am really disappointed in the keyboard and slider mechanism of the Epic. Great phone overall, though.
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I stuck with the epic because of the screen. It made my decision. At first I got it for the keyboard but don't even use it except for playing games.
I just ordered the innocase. I dropped my phone today for the first time. Nothing major; but, I never drop my phone. I blame not having a holster. I was waiting for the rugged.
With that said I think they should deff make the add on kit like they do with other phones. I don't what to have to buy ANOTHER innocase when the rugged does come out.
So we would like to see more of a rugged sleeve/skeleton that could be attached to the standard Innocase Surface correct?
That would make sense! You would have keyboard function with the standard case and when you attach the Rugged sleeve/skeleton you would lose keyboard function but for sole purpose of protection during that time your using the rugged sleeve/skeleton. This would also allow the two piece design that is being requested.
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No, it should be based on the ActiveX (which has a padded "undercase", and fills in the button gaps to level out the sides and provide extra protection).
Here's how I'd do it:
Sku #1: ActiveXR Case. Start with the ActiveX, but score a cutout in the padded underbody above the battery's footprint. Include two exoskeletons: one that allows the keyboard to slide out, one that firmly secures it in place.
Sku #2: ActiveXR PowerPack, consisting of an extended battery, two backs, and a GameGripper that's customized to fit an Epic with ActiveXR case with the keyboard-openable exoskeleton in place. This battery might have to be smaller than 3000mAH, but should have at least 50% more real capacity than the Epic's stock battery. If the battery ends up being a hair too thick, make the padded underbody of the ActiveXR case a little bit thicker too.
Use Case #1: Extended Battery
Carefully cut out the scored rectangular opening on the ActiveXR's underbody with an X-acto knife. Save it for future use.
Remove the phone's stock back and battery. Insert the extended battery and the back with a cutout. Attach the padded underbody. Verify that the squishy thin adhesive-backed silicone pad is attached to the extended battery, and stick it on if this is the first time it's being used. Attach your exoskeleton of choice. Enjoy added battery life and added protection, with optionally-secured keyboard using exoskeleton #2. In both cases, the exoskeleton is what ultimately holds the extended battery in place.
Use Case #2: Gameplay
Same as before, but use the exoskeleton that permits the keyboard to open. Slide open the phone, attach the ActiveX PowerPack GameGripper, and have fun. This is a crucial part of the whole system. A "normal" GameGripper for the Epic (presumably) won't fit an Epic with ActiveX(R) case attached, and the case can't be removed because its exoskeleton is the only thing actually holding the extended battery in place.
Without the ActiveX PowerPack's customized GameGripper, you'd have to remove the case, and carry BOTH the standard Epic GameGripper AND the extended-battery phone back that doesn't have a hole cut into it. Yuck. Have I made it clear yet just how important the availability of a GameGripper that can work with the ActiveX(R) case in place really is?
If the user has the openable exoskeleton attached, all he needs to carry in his other pocket is the GameGripper.
Compare that to the nasty alternative that pretty much kills the user's ability to whip it out for a couple of minutes of casual gameplay while waiting in line somewhere: Shut down the phone. Remove the exoskeleton. Remove the ActiveXR's back. Remove the battery back. Remove the extended battery. Put the stock battery into the phone. Attach the stock battery back. Power up the phone. Slide out the keyboard. Attach the standard Epic GameGripper. It's a well-worn cliche, but apt: "Epic Fail" -- too much work and hassle for too little reward.
Use Case #3: stock battery
Insert the stock battery, and attach the phone's stock battery back. Attach the ActiveX(R) underbody, and stick the rectangular cutout into the cavity. Attach either exoskeleton (securing the cutout into place, and hiding the fact that it was cut out to begin with).
Target Market for ActiveXR PowerPack: users who push their phones to the limit and would kill a stock battery in 4-6 hours, and probably play games (many as a prime activity, plus others who wouldn't really go out of their way to do it, but will take advantage of the bundled GameGripper if they had to buy it anyway to get the exteneded battery). These are users who don't really mind a thicker-than-normal phone and urgently need more battery life, but would balk and be unhappy if it made their already-thickened phone even thicker... and will happily trade padding for more battery.
Another argument for Seidio: competition for cheap batteries and cases from eBay is stiff... but none of them will work with an Epic GameGripper. The guy who makes the GameGripper sells it for $15, so it's probably pretty cheap to make. If Seidio offered to buy 10,000 from him that were customized to fit a phone with ActiveXR case for $1-2 more than he pays to have them made, and most were bought by users who couldn't easily have used a stock GameGripper with their ActiveXR-equipped Epic *anyway*, he'd be insane to say "no". Especially if, say, Seidio also became a dealer for them in general.
I've been looking through the reviews and I don't think I've seen this. The basic idea is that we are using the infinity to replace a laptop. But the keyboard dock is going to stay at home, while the main unit will be mobile. So, ideally, we would have a case that fits on the infinity and allows the infinity to attach to the dock without any stress (I read at least one of these reviews that the material in the cover caused some extra strain on the unit in attaching the dock).
So, the idea would be that, on the go, you grab the infinity out of the keyboard dock and you have a case that flips over the screen, but can also bend back around and be used as a stand.
When you come home, you attach the infinity to the keyboard dock (no strain) and can flip the screen cover part back over so it's out of the way and use the whole setup kind of like a netbook and charge it at the same time.
Does such an animal exist?
Also interested in this. I would imagine if a case simply didn't have any material on that bottom edge it would be perfect. And the cover could help keep the tablet + dock from tipping over.
Check out this. It's PU leather (i.e., fake) but it's cheap, is supposed to fit well and will allow attachment to the keyboard while in use. I just ordered one. It's supposed to be here by TUE. I'll post back if you like.
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Check out this. It's PU leather (i.e., fake) but it's cheap, is supposed to fit well and will allow attachment to the keyboard while in use. I just ordered one. It's supposed to be here by TUE. I'll post back if you like.
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Definitely post back - but where did you see that it will allow attachment to the keyboard while in use? All I could find was "access to all controls and features".
I saw that one before, but without any reviews mentioning how the keyboard fits, I shied away... will be glad to hear your input on it!
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Definitely post back - but where did you see that it will allow attachment to the keyboard while in use? All I could find was "access to all controls and features".
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Look at the design: the last attachment point is mid-tab. The entire docking surface is exposed and unencumbered. I saw a post/photo from someone using that case, and he just docked the tab and sat the keyboard on top of the cover portion which lies on the tabletop.
So, you can't enclose the assembled tab-keyboard combo in this case -- if that's what you're after, sorry if I misunderstood -- but I didn't usually carry my TF101 assembled anyway. I want something that will protect the tab during "regular," separated use, and let me connect the keyboard on the fly when I need to. This case does that.
BTW, I did see one folio-type case on Amazon that will allow the keyboard to be attached and still close the case over the whole shebang. But it added so much bulk to the tab that it defeated the purpose of not carrying an ultrabook.
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Look at the design: the last attachment point is mid-tab. The entire docking surface is exposed and unencumbered. I saw a post/photo from someone using that case, and he just docked the tab and sat the keyboard on top of the cover portion which lies on the tabletop.
So, you can't enclose the assembled tab-keyboard combo in this case -- if that's what you're after, sorry if I misunderstood -- but I didn't usually carry my TF101 assembled anyway. I want something that will protect the tab during "regular," separated use, and let me connect the keyboard on the fly when I need to. This case does that.
BTW, I did see one folio-type case on Amazon that will allow the keyboard to be attached and still close the case over the whole shebang. But it added so much bulk to the tab that it defeated the purpose of not carrying an ultrabook.
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No - we're on the same page - I only want to cover the tab. If honestly don't see much point in a case if you travel with the keyboard - it kind of acts like a cover anyway.
The bugaboo with all these is that they have to have some amount of material to hold the tab in the case, even when that area is "exposed". In a lot of them, that's the part that folds back over and makes the stand. When it's in that config, with no material to hold it, the tab will just slide out. And it's that little bit of material that's my concern because I don't want something that is basically going to be abnormally prying the tab away from the keyboard (just by being between the two) like the review of the minsuit reported.
I've been using the Poetic Hardback case http://www.amazon.com/Poetic-Protec...6049322&sr=8-1&keywords=poetic+hardback+tf700
If you look closely there's a black nylon strap that you can use to fold the cover of the case backwards, it keeps the case on the tablet only while leaving it free to dock. I think it works pretty well, the only problem is when folding the cover back it does cover the camera as well, but I suspect taking pictures will be rarer than docking to the keyboard.
Which one is the most slim?
Hi!
Which one of the MoKo and Poetic hardback case is the slimmest one?
I wanted to have a normal "protection" only as the iPad has but I cant find anyone that seems to fit good.
(tried the TF201 one in the store and it wasent a perfect fit, went out a little on the sides).
I actually dont need a "full body" cover but if nothing better exists I guess I have to since I want a stand also.
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Hi!
Which one of the MoKo and Poetic hardback case is the slimmest one?
I wanted to have a normal "protection" only as the iPad has but I cant find anyone that seems to fit good.
(tried the TF201 one in the store and it wasent a perfect fit, went out a little on the sides).
I actually dont need a "full body" cover but if nothing better exists I guess I have to since I want a stand also.
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+1 . I am in same situation as you. Want a slim "Ipad-ish" cover with stand for typing.
Dunno about the Poetic case, but the Moko case will do the trick. I'd take pix, but I returned mine along with the tab after I noticed all the hardware issues with the latter. IMO, I'd rather have real leather, but this is good enough for the price.
I know people has been talking about these items quite a bit, so here is my 2 bits as I just picked it up and put them on yesterday.
The Spigen Glass IS compatible with the case itself, as you can see in the pictures. The glass works just fine with all touch screen sensation and eventhough some say the glass cut out does not match, mine seems to do just fine. It is quite pricy though, at 35 bux from amazon, compared to the case for only 18, but you do get a discount from amazon or spigen for that matter, 15% off Glass .tR. total for both came out to be 47.73 with free shipping.
Now with the case, works fine, snug-fit, I've had otterbox defender with the rubber being so lose like it's over stretched and doesnt cover up the plastic case well, not on this one as the rubber actually goes on the inside of the PC case. I haven't tried any drop test or any of that...not gonna do that =P But if you read on amazon and see the reviews for 1 stars, all with similar problem. 1- Case too slipper ( to finely finished seeing the PC case is on the outside insted of TPU). 2 - heart rate sensor does not work.
1. The case is indeed too slipper to my experience after one night playing with it, nearly dropped it 3 times in 30 mins, and I was so sure I had good grip. On the sides or back of the case, there is really no rubber to increase friction except for the button replacement cutout, so unless you got real thick and strong callus, you ain't holding it by the sides.
2. Heart rate sensor worked for me just fine, I am assuming that people tend to press on it very hard, so the pressure cuts off the blood flow therefore does not scan. If you look at the cut out for flashlight and the sensor, on the buttom of it, there is a mini slope compared to the top. Sort of like a 40 degree cut out on bottom and 90 degree on top if you get what I mean...so finger tip and actually rest on the sensor just fine, may take a couple try to get used to it, but that's definitely not the cons of the case..
The case color is gun-metal....to be honest, kind of regret it now since its not as vibrant or as sleek as I hoped it'd be, so black would probably be the best way to go since the back cover does not have any speical design to be standing out with ligher colour choices...
Thanks for the review.
I ordered a this exact same case about 3 weeks ago, and Im still waiting for it to arrive.
I also have a iLoome Screenmate 9h screen protector on my phone, which came quickly after ordering but I have to say, that:
#1 Fitment was terrible
#2 Customer service is atrocious. I asked to return it, and they said I could return it only if I hadnt removed the adhesive protectors
I have this same case as well and I love it. I have big hands so maybe that helps but I find the finish to be fine, not as slippery as most people make it seem. I do not have one complaint about the case and received it in only 3 days after ordering it, although I'm in WA so not far from where it was shipped. I also bought 2 of the basic slim plastic Spiegen cases and the regular screen protector that came with it with this case with no isssues. I was also glad that it did not add too much bulk to the phone overall. It is definitely thicker than the basic case I got but I'm sure it would withstand some abuse pretty well.
I actually have this case in black and I really like it. After seeing your pictures I may pick up the gunmetal finish one day as well. I haven't tried a drop test with it but I believe it should be pretty good possible comparable to the otterbox commuter as far as drop protection goes if not as close as you can get while keeping the case slim. I'm about done buying cases for a while because I have this one, a black Otterbox Defender, and my element Recon CF should be here Friday or Saturday.
For $35 you don't get much. I have the UAG and I think that is more attractive. But ultimately I want the Janis leather.
have a look to my "Cases Comparison: Spigen SGP Tough Armor -vs- UAG Protective Aero GLXS5" here :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2729413
I definitively use the UAG... waiting to test it with wireless charging.
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have a look to my "Cases Comparison: Spigen SGP Tough Armor -vs- UAG Protective Aero GLXS5" here :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2729413
I definitively use the UAG... waiting to test it with wireless charging.
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I am also waiting for my S5 wireless charging back to be shipped to test that out. Still waiting for the inserts from china at the moment.
Anyway, today, I took the the glass protector to the test...well...................that's just say it is not that "amazing" as it is advertised. If you look at amazon spigen's picture description...you see that they held a xacto to the screen, and I copied.
Well, result is fair I'd say, you can barely tell by the naked eye that there is any scratch on the screen, but if you hold it at a certain angle or with the right lightning, you can see "marks" on the glass, but it is not rough to the touch of finger tip; however, if you lightly glide your nail across the "marks"..."clump" "clump" "clump"....i really don't know what sound to use, but you should get the idea, it is scratched...I did a lot of cutting and swirving the blade around the glass, but there is about maybe less than 10 marks...so my guess is that it is tough, just not to the blade, but daily usage should never scratch it.
At this point, I am thinking it's probably the "layer" on top of the glass actually came off? whatever...I will live, so will it. I also got 2 cheap china version for replacement if I really need to anyway...just haven't try to see if they acutally align.
nice & helpful. I got this same setup. A black Spigen tough armor case with a Spigen "0.23mm rounded natural fit (smooth edge & light) tempered glass protector". It's a near perfect fit on the glass, just a fraction to small imho. There is a small groove around the outer edge of the glass, inside the inner edge of the case. just enough to collect some dust. but really not that bad. I had a cheapo quality case and plastic screen cover from best buy the first couple of days. this setup is much much nicer. i think maybe I would go with a thinner option than .23mm if I had to do this again. other than that I would recommend this for sure. it is nice quality. and I love how easy it was to get the glass protector on there without getting air bubbles and so forth.
crownjoker said:
The case color is gun-metal....to be honest, kind of regret it now since its not as vibrant or as sleek as I hoped it'd be, so black would probably be the best way to go since the back cover does not have any speical design to be standing out with ligher colour choices...
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Initially I bought the gun-metal option and almost dropped the phone a few times with that case. I then bought the black option and returned the gun-metal. The grip with the black option is much better with the soft feel coating..
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Initially I bought the gun-metal option and almost dropped the phone a few times with that case. I then bought the black option and returned the gun-metal. The grip with the black option is much better with the soft feel coating..
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Hmm....nice...I didn't know that there was a difference in the material they used. I thought it was just different paint, but I live in canada anyway, so for me to return and get a new one is not worth the hassle. I'll stick to this for now, until I get the OEM wireless cover anyway.
So I have received the Itian wireless charging adapter and the wireless charging pad today. Time to do some feed back.
First to describe the picture attached.
1. Wireless receiver from Itian.
2. Wireless charging pad from itian.
3. Wireless charging pad from aliexpress.
4. Wireless charging pad from Nokia DT-900.
First, the adapter, is not thin by all means, I reckon the OEM cover will also be made thicker like the S4, while maintaining it's waterproof ability, bigger rubber ring I suppose. If you were to use these ones, it will get caught in between the rubber gasket; therefore, making your phone IP67 non-existing. It is also harder to close on that one side of the case, render that you can still close it, but over time I would assume the plastic to actually bent, and when you remove the charging adapter, the cover will probably not close properly to be IP67 ready.
Now, this post is not here to say whether the different brand of pad works or not, at a inital test, they all work on a S4 with OEM back with the DT-900 at best performance, but I am posting more related to whether they work with the Spigen Touch Armor or NOT. From now on, review is based on Itian adapter in phone and phone is Spigen TA case.
The Itian pad takes a significantly longer time to be recognized by the phone. Phone does not pick up the wireless signal for at least 5 seconds, while Ali takes about 3 seconds and Nokia tops it by about 1 second. If the same receiver works on all 3 pads, it seems to me that Itian simply does not have enough coil to produce strong enough waves, and hence charging speed will also be significantly slower than the others...? Throughout the charging process, due to the weak signal, itian has start and stop the charging process so many times that the pad eventually comes to a halt of error, LED light flashing blue and red simultaneously. ( I hope neither my phone nor the pad is damaged during this event...)
Ali seems to just having a hard time to align properly, seems the coil is strong, but small, so the phone could be disconnected simply by the slightest wrong angle. Meanwhile, Nokia has the smallest and thickest pad among all, but when you place the phone on top ( this is the only pad that is acutally smaller than the phone, for what I have anyway) it not only picks up right away, and you really have no problem in charging speed issue nor alignment issue.
Ali one may seems strong but the broadcast range seems to be small, while Itian is about in the middle of no where, for cheap pads anyway. Nokia seems to win out-right in this one, charges just fine with or without the case.
To sum it up, DT-900 cost me 25 bux, and the others both cost me about 10~15 depending on seller and shipping cost. All in all, I suggest throw in double of your budget from getting a cheap no name to affordable brand name will save you the trouble getting a new case or replacing damaged battery or adapter.
My question is. Is the oem wireless cover gonna be released any time sooner? I'm afraid that will make impossible to use this covers. My other question is anyone bought already a fake cover? What's the difference?
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My question is. Is the oem wireless cover gonna be released any time sooner? I'm afraid that will make impossible to use this covers. My other question is anyone bought already a fake cover? What's the difference?
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I could not find any related publication on when it will acutally be released, but you can pre-order them anywhere from samsung to amazon and other cellular websites. I heard someone once said that Atnt store already carries it? doubt it tho. I have preordered mine from amazon at the same price that samsung sells, but samsung offers free tectiles to come with theirs. Some other sites has boasted their selling price which is kind of stupid to my opinion.
EDIT, just found this online, not official, just annoucement from a retailer.
"This morning B&H Photo places put a date on the Galaxy S5 wireless charging back, with shipments expected to start on May 10th. Users can pre-order the Galaxy S5 wireless charging cover from this well-known retailer and could see the back arrive before the middle of the month."
Thank you for your response. I'm heading to a Samsung store tomorrow just to check if they have in there or if they say the same thing about the day. Because I already saw in the forum that some people have the back cover and it's a little bulky. And I can't use the phone without a protective cover. Hope that it's compatible with spigen line
I went to a Samsung official store on London and they don't have any wireless covers. But if I go to Amazon and search there's a store that has them on stock. So on Monday I'm going to buy one.
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I went to a Samsung official store on London and they don't have any wireless covers. But if I go to Amazon and search there's a store that has them on stock. So on Monday I'm going to buy one.
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On amazon.com. it says ship within 2 to 4 month, which is where I placed my order, but I don't think they have them in stock yet. I would assume Samsung stores to have them before anyone else to make the best profit for themselves. Some random purchasers have made comments among different websites about them picking one up already from the mobile stores, which I highly doubt...
I went to a Rogers store in canada, the guy there said he didn't even heard anything about it, he did NOT know such thing exists....so go figure.
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I know people has been talking about these items quite a bit, so here is my 2 bits as I just picked it up and put them on yesterday.
The Spigen Glass IS compatible with the case itself, as you can see in the pictures. The glass works just fine with all touch screen sensation and eventhough some say the glass cut out does not match, mine seems to do just fine. It is quite pricy though, at 35 bux from amazon, compared to the case for only 18, but you do get a discount from amazon or spigen for that matter, 15% off Glass .tR. total for both came out to be 47.73 with free shipping.
Now with the case, works fine, snug-fit, I've had otterbox defender with the rubber being so lose like it's over stretched and doesnt cover up the plastic case well, not on this one as the rubber actually goes on the inside of the PC case. I haven't tried any drop test or any of that...not gonna do that =P But if you read on amazon and see the reviews for 1 stars, all with similar problem. 1- Case too slipper ( to finely finished seeing the PC case is on the outside insted of TPU). 2 - heart rate sensor does not work.
1. The case is indeed too slipper to my experience after one night playing with it, nearly dropped it 3 times in 30 mins, and I was so sure I had good grip. On the sides or back of the case, there is really no rubber to increase friction except for the button replacement cutout, so unless you got real thick and strong callus, you ain't holding it by the sides.
2. Heart rate sensor worked for me just fine, I am assuming that people tend to press on it very hard, so the pressure cuts off the blood flow therefore does not scan. If you look at the cut out for flashlight and the sensor, on the buttom of it, there is a mini slope compared to the top. Sort of like a 40 degree cut out on bottom and 90 degree on top if you get what I mean...so finger tip and actually rest on the sensor just fine, may take a couple try to get used to it, but that's definitely not the cons of the case..
The case color is gun-metal....to be honest, kind of regret it now since its not as vibrant or as sleek as I hoped it'd be, so black would probably be the best way to go since the back cover does not have any speical design to be standing out with ligher colour choices...
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Judging from the size of the cutout on the charging port, it does not look as if larger, "fat headed" aftermarket chargers will fit.The reason I mention this is because I just ordered this (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GDESF1I/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1H9NMCPZH97BO) 15 ft charging cable. Reviewers have mentioned that this cable does not work with their case on, and you have almost confirmed that for me. Thank you sir/ma'am!
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Judging from the size of the cutout on the charging port, it does not look as if larger, "fat headed" aftermarket chargers will fit.The reason I mention this is because I just ordered this (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GDESF1I/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1H9NMCPZH97BO) 15 ft charging cable. Reviewers have mentioned that this cable does not work with their case on, and you have almost confirmed that for me. Thank you sir/ma'am!
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Looking at the picture of your link, seems like you have purchased a standard USB 3.0 cord of which should be the same size on both end compared to standard USB plug for PC. I've attached a picture with my own USB 3 cord, WD brand for my external drive, it is round edged by a little fatter in the height wise, decimal mm difference. I have attached picture with dimention in CM along the post. It works perfectly with my case when I plug it in, so you might still be able to use it. The front rubber part of the case design is "loose" for the ease of use of the finger print scanner, so that is "movable" so to speak.
PS. Sir is fine =P
Now adays, people tend to use more wireless charging to save the hassel of plugging it and pulling out, it eventually wears out the charging port. On top of that, because of the waterproof cover, after you put on the case, it makes it even harder to open the cover if you have absolutely no nails like me. I keep the ruler by my table so I use the edge of the ruler to pry it open. Other than that, I rarely use the port anymore. Suggest in investing in a decent wireless charger and a charging back for rougly 50 dollars, or go with ebay for a 15 dollars all inclusive (less quality).
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nice & helpful. I got this same setup. A black Spigen tough armor case with a Spigen "0.23mm rounded natural fit (smooth edge & light) tempered glass protector". It's a near perfect fit on the glass, just a fraction to small imho. There is a small groove around the outer edge of the glass, inside the inner edge of the case. just enough to collect some dust. but really not that bad. I had a cheapo quality case and plastic screen cover from best buy the first couple of days. this setup is much much nicer. i think maybe I would go with a thinner option than .23mm if I had to do this again. other than that I would recommend this for sure. it is nice quality. and I love how easy it was to get the glass protector on there without getting air bubbles and so forth.
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I too brought the Spigen 0.23 mm glass protector, and with in one week it had completey cracked acorss the width of the screen. These screens are not and hard, scratch prrof, as they claim. I contacted the customer services regarding their screen did not live up to the claims, and useless is a kind word to describe their customer services.
Dont get me wrong its a good product but dont think it worth all that money when, its not going to last that long. Im considering buying a new one.. but not sure yet, so currently have the bog standard screen protector which came with my Spigen case.
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I too brought the Spigen 0.23 mm glass protector, and with in one week it had completey cracked acorss the width of the screen. These screens are not and hard, scratch prrof, as they claim. I contacted the customer services regarding their screen did not live up to the claims, and useless is a kind word to describe their customer services.
Dont get me wrong its a good product but dont think it worth all that money when, its not going to last that long. Im considering buying a new one.. but not sure yet, so currently have the bog standard screen protector which came with my Spigen case.
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No, you are right. They are not as good as they claim to be, and in the free market, they are selling at a high price. Like I said, definitely not scratch proof as I have tested it, mine has not experience crack yet, but who knows. If you look online whether amazon or other spigen retails, lots of bad feedback of lining issue as well as customer service, especially customer service. They don't seem to replace or refund, nothing like that, as long as you have tried applying the glass, you are done. Even if it was manufacture defect, you still need to pay return shipping provided that you haven't remove the sticky 1 AND 2 side. Very minimal on defects, still has tho. I have ordered 2 cheap no-name brand from china on ebay as well as 2 cheap regular plastic film as back up. The phone will probably be gone before I really have to use up all 5 protectors.
I saw somewhere that there was a brand that provides life-time warranty replacement...I can't remember which one, someone here knows as it's on one of the threads. Do a search or someone can probably point it out for you. As far as where I stand, I got lots of cheap back up
Can someone recommend a bike mount compatible note 4, preferably under 20$ ?
I bought this one from Ebay, but the phone fell twice. The mount itself is very sturdy, but phone grip is poor. Fortunately the phone was inside Samsung protective case, so no harm done.
Many bike mounts are not big enough for large phones like note 4, so looking for suggestion if anybody is using a good quality one, which can hold the phone securely even on bumpy roads.
I've been looking for one too, and there are options on Amazon, but I'm considering just fab-ing my own with some metal I've got lying around.
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I've been looking for one too, and there are options on Amazon, but I'm considering just fab-ing my own with some metal I've got lying around.
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Seidio:
http://www.seidioonline.com/hl4-holster-bike-mount-p/mb1-hl4.htm
But you'd have to be using one of their case/holster combinations, or get the holster for the caseless Note 4:
http://www.seidioonline.com/samsung-galaxy-note-4-spring-clip-holster-black-p/hlssgt4as.htm
and assuming you'd want the phone 'face out' you'd need to check that it can be secured in the holster that way round, as I believe these are designed for 'face in' usage.
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Seidio:
http://www.seidioonline.com/hl4-holster-bike-mount-p/mb1-hl4.htm
But you'd have to be using one of their case/holster combinations, or get the holster for the caseless Note 4:
http://www.seidioonline.com/samsung-galaxy-note-4-spring-clip-holster-black-p/hlssgt4as.htm
and assuming you'd want the phone 'face out' you'd need to check that it can be secured in the holster that way round, as I believe these are designed for 'face in' usage.
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Seidio is pure garbage. I had their Convert case w/ belt clip holster and the holster detached from the belt clip at the slightest pressure falling to the ground. Seidio Customer Service stated it was due to the size of the N4, funny I have no such problems w/ my Otterbox Defender. The Convert case itself is pure garbage too, the rubber outercover that goes over the Surface case is designed so poorly designed every time you use the fingerprint scanner it moves off the lip of the phone & the composition of the way too soft rubber is a dirt/lint magnet.
As far as buying anything from Seidio's online store read the thread I started about it. Worst experience I've ever had by far purchasing anything online. I paid for the freight to send back my Convert Add On Kit & Seidio refunded zero so now I have to initiate a chargeback w/ the bank that issued the credit card used to pay for it. And that was after I jumped through all the hoops they require to return something and after they issued an RMA.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/accessories/dont-want-to-buy-seidios-webstore-t3036913
Seidio has pure garbage products & the worst imaginable customer treatment and hassle to try to return something.
I used this Arkon Mega Grip in my car for several years/phones (incl. N4) and they make a bike mount for it. I can't vouch for the bike mount but I can say the spring loaded Mega Grip arms do hold the phone securely & I would think the elastic bungee would make certain the phone stays on the mount. It will be cheaper on Amazon.
http://www.arkon.com/megagrip/megagrip-bike-mount.html
I use one of these on my motorcycle
http://www.slipgripcarmounts.com/
I have always used the German made Herbert Richter brand of car holders. They are well made and last forever though I have never used their bike mount
After trying couple of them from from Ebay, I decided to make one of my own using some plastic and parts salvaged from the ebay ones.
It looks a bit ugly but does its job.
suhridkhan said:
After trying couple of them from from Ebay, I decided to make one of my own using some plastic and parts salvaged from the ebay ones.
It looks a bit ugly but does its job.
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Lol. Worlds first ever Bike Phaser! Hope its set to stun!!!
Seriously though that is awesome job dude. I'm thinking of making my own as well because all the other ones just don't look that safe to me for mountain biking.
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Lol. Worlds first ever Bike Phaser! Hope its set to stun!!!
Seriously though that is awesome job dude. I'm thinking of making my own as well because all the other ones just don't look that safe to me for mountain biking.
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I didn't see it that way before, but now that you mentioned, it looks a lot something like that.
I feel a lot safer biking with this one. I dropped my phone twice with other commercial mounts.
although they have been sold out for a while, this one from amazon works really well. i've fallen off my road bike 3 times and it held up 100%. the case is easily detachable. and touch screen works well with the clear cover.
the only thing i wish it did, was to have a slot for the light sensor so that i can answer phone calls on speakerphone and not have the screen always go black. besides that, it's great.
I use this one:
http://www.amazon.com/GreatShield-Clip-Grip-Handlebar-BlackBerry-Smartphones/dp/B00FA892IS/
Don't ride a very rough route to work but have not had my phone fall out. I also have just a flip case on the phone.
Slip Grip is the best, I have used them since my Droid Incredible days. They are custom molded to each phone and each case available for it. If the case is not listed email them and they will let you know which one has the precise dimensions to fit like a glove.
Slip Grip Galaxy Note 4
Note: I am paranoid and still use a bit of velcro to double secure the phone when mountain biking.
Here is a pic of my setup
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I'm still looking for a better option
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although they have been sold out for a while, this one from amazon works really well. i've fallen off my road bike 3 times and it held up 100%. the case is easily detachable. and touch screen works well with the clear cover.
the only thing i wish it did, was to have a slot for the light sensor so that i can answer phone calls on speakerphone and not have the screen always go black. besides that, it's great.
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I use my note with the samsung original protective cover http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-Protective-Cover/dp/B00NP3K8Y2 and I'm looking for a better option than the ones I have (see below). The Ibera case seems large enough, but its still sold out and I can´t find in any of the amazon European locations - but it does seem like a very good option.
I have something like this, which works well, but ist as little on the tight side.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bicycle-Fro...amsung-/201295830059?var=&hash=item2ede2a9c2b
and recently bought this, but this case is tighter than the pannier bag, so I'll be selling it
http://www.ebay.com/itm/360-Waterpr...Phones-/181813369752?var=&hash=item2a54ebdb98
I use the topeak 6" drybag
http://www.topeak.com/products/bags/smartphone_drybag_6in_bk
Fully waterproof, allows use of the screen, power button and home button. Also allows me to keep my phone in the Spigen slim armour case inside the drybag. There are several fixing types available, I've got mine strapped to the stem with the fixing which came with the bag.
Been looking for similar products. Thanks for these product ideas!