Really need help with music... - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps

Ok so I've spent over 4 hours trying to find a way to move my music from iTunes to my HTC HD2 with album covers and all...no luck... why in the hell is it so difficult just to put music on your phone...All my songs are mp3's and they still won't go on properly...I tried just dragging them to the music folder through My Computer. I tried using double twists software I downloaded from the phone and I tried the one from the official website.
This is ridiculous considering that my old ass samsung flip phone can sync all my music in just 35 minutes with everything i expect. So much for the Entertainment phone...I would really appreciate if someone can help me out with this before I go on this road trip...
I also tried the music from My Music instead f iTunes and same problem...I have all the songs on the phone but they won't play. Does anyone also know why when your in the Windows Media Player all of your GAME sounds and videos and just random sounds appear if its suppose to be a music player... i am disappointed in this damn phone everything is great except the music players...

Personally, I keep all my music very organised on an external hard drive at home. On there, they are all stored in the folder structure X:\Music\Artist\Album\nn Song Title.mp3. I also have album art for each of them as folder.jpg in the album folder. I'm a bit of a pedant, but keeping it tidy has proved to be a godsend no end of times!
When I want to copy something to my phone, I usually make a temp folder on my desktop so that I can keep the folder structure intact inside that, and copy the albums I want, into their respective artist folders - Desktop\Temp Music Folder\Artist\Album.
Once I've copied everything there, I connect my phone to my PC with the USB cable, and I select "Disk Drive" as the connection type.
Then I simply open my phone's storage card in windows explorer, open the music folder on there (that's obviously already there as I've got loads of music on there already), and I copy the contents of the temp folder on my desktop into that folder.
It's really simple, and it works 100% of the time.
I've seen no end of threads where people are using different software for synching & tagging mp3s, or trying to put mp3s in weird folder structures (or even all of them in 1 folder!!!) and I just don't see why you'd bother.
This method has worked flawlessly for me on a Nokia N95, Touch Diamond, Touch HD and HD2.
Hope this helps mate

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Transferring Music to TP

Is there ANY other program you can use to sync songs to a TP besides WMP? I've been using WMP, but it keeps on making random duplicates of all my songs, and it's REALLY annoying.
I would greatly appreciate any advice.
Oh and I don't want to just drag+drop, I would like some sort of program.
Thanks.
i agree i moved from a iphone and i got to say its annoying, the way windows mobile phones organize music, and when i use windows media player mobile to update my library it seaches the entire device and grabs even system sounds.
Hmm, I just put my microsd card into my computer and dump all the music I want to listen to (mp3, flak, ogg, what ever) into the music folder to play with the built in player / core player.
Eric03 said:
Is there ANY other program you can use to sync songs to a TP besides WMP? I've been using WMP, but it keeps on making random duplicates of all my songs, and it's REALLY annoying.
I would greatly appreciate any advice.
Oh and I don't want to just drag+drop, I would like some sort of program.
Thanks.
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How is drag and drop ANY more difficult than a program?
dr g said:
How is drag and drop ANY more difficult than a program?
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Well at least with WMP I can see my music in a "library" setup, as opposed to just opening my music folder which has thousands upon thousands of subfolders. It's just much easier for me (at least the way my music folder is setup) to use a program such as WMP.... but WMP sucks. That is why I am asking for an alternative to WMP.
10332007 said:
Hmm, I just put my microsd card into my computer and dump all the music I want to listen to (mp3, flak, ogg, what ever) into the music folder to play with the built in player / core player.
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Thats exactly what I do and it works like a charm. It is easier than using a program in my opinion. Are you doing something wrong? is it giving you trouble moving the files to the microSD card?
When I start Winamp and have my phone plugged in, it detects it and asks if I want to use it to manage my music on the phone. Winamp has a great name out there, maybe it oculd be useful.
I also used Yahoo Music Engine at once point and that worked great, like itunes. I think that whole deal is still around too, albeit Yahoo music has changed a bit, the app was called Yahoo Music Engine.
I have not tried sync with WM11. There must be a simple option or something you are missing. Perhaps it has to do with Media Player on WM6 and the library function. If you scan the device and organize the library to ignore your Windows folder then it probably won't be a problem on the WM11 side.
Does that make any sense?
WM11 is simple drag and drop; the problem is that when it loads music onto your Phone/SD card it puts it into the file structure Artist/Album/Track based off id3 tags. So if your music is improperly tagged or if you have more than one copy of a song like an album and a compilation album you'll end up with duplicates.
Personally I just wipe out the Music folder on my SD card every 2 weeks or so and dump a new playlist onto it. You can use the WMP sort function in the playlist to eliminate any duplicates before you copy them over. You can still add to the card later and it won't reinstall the same file so long as it's not a duplicate on your desktop like I mentioned above.
As for getting rid of ringtones showing up in your library on your phone I use Pocket Player for my MP3 player and it has an "Exclude Directory" option on it so it will only update from the SD card music folder.
Did Wm4 or CE or whatever handle music?
So that whole development time while WM5 was on market and ipod appeared, was MS just sitting there saying, "Well these are business devices let's focus on getting four Excel cells to show up on this ****tay 320x240 screen instead"
Great.
And the even funier part is the new Blackberry virtualization occurring over WM6. If they were so good at business apps then why is this occurring, HELP ME UNDERSTAND hahahhaha
This was all tongue in cheek utterance from a bewildered fan of MS and their spastic roll outs!!!!!

Clear music from "Music" tab library?

I'm one of the few people who actually like the Music tab's interface (using the zoom to scan a song is very nice, IMO) but I have a question about removing songs from the library...
I deleted the stock songs from my device and now, when I go to the music tab, I get the 'searching...' message and, when I go to library, all the old songs are still there, but with exclamation marks rather than album art.
I went to WMP and deleted all the songs in the 'My Music' list, so I know the two aren't tied together.
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Also, I've added a bunch of music in a folder I created (Storage Card>My Documents>My Music) and neither WMP or the Music tab see this folder. Where do I put music on the storage card so the media players will see them?
Try Deleting the AudioManager.vol file in \Application Data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng. That should force AudioManager to re-search your device for Music (you'll need to disable TF3D and make sure Audio Manager isn't running in the background to delete the file. You also may need to use Total Commander or Resco, however selecting "Show all Files" in File Explorer may also work).
I personally haven't tested it by deleting any files first, but I don't see why it shouldn't work (though you did indicate it shows "Searching" everytime you go to the tab, so this may not work). It's something to try, at any rate.
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Try Deleting the AudioManager.vol file in \Application Data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng.
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That didn't work. The deleted songs still show up and it still doesn't see the new songs. You figure they'd want these devices to be user friendly and make it easy to copy your music onto it. Or remove songs you don't want.
bryceowen said:
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Also, I've added a bunch of music in a folder I created (Storage Card>My Documents>My Music) and neither WMP or the Music tab see this folder. Where do I put music on the storage card so the media players will see them?
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I have my Music in \Storage Card\Music (because that's where Windows Media puts them by default when you sync it), and I've never had any problems with AudioManager finding my Music. Perhaps you should elaborate on your setup, ROM-wise.
Stock ROM. Just got the phone a week ago. The songs I'm trying to load are .mp3. I've tried putting the songs on the device directly in the /Music folder, I've also tried /My Documents/Music, /My Documents/My Music (both on the device and on the storage card). The MP3s will play, if I pull them up in TC or File Manager.
I've tried copying the 'Dogbark.wav' file to the storage card (/My Documents) and WMP has no problem finding THAT file. I was thinking it might be a file name issue, but I've tried renaming one of the mp3s to something as simple as one letter and it STILL isn't seen.
Do you NEED to sync it with Windows Media Player? (This is a bit of a problem, as I use linux and don't have ready access to a Windows machine.)
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Stock ROM. Just got the phone a week ago. The songs I'm trying to load are .mp3. I've tried putting the songs on the device directly in the /Music folder, I've also tried /My Documents/Music, /My Documents/My Music (both on the device and on the storage card). The MP3s will play, if I pull them up in TC or File Manager.
I've tried copying the 'Dogbark.wav' file to the storage card (/My Documents) and WMP has no problem finding THAT file. I was thinking it might be a file name issue, but I've tried renaming one of the mp3s to something as simple as one letter and it STILL isn't seen.
Do you NEED to sync it with Windows Media Player? (This is a bit of a problem, as I use linux and don't have ready access to a Windows machine.)
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No, you shouldn't need to. I'm really not sure why it wouldn't be working.
What Carrier are you on? What location? There may be a ROM update floating around somewhere that will solve your problem.
I'm with AT&T in Florida. I'd like to avoid a ROM flash, if possible...
bryceowen said:
I'm with AT&T in Florida. I'd like to avoid a ROM flash, if possible...
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I don't know if that's possible, unfortunately. I'd actually suggest a hard reset to see if that fixes the issue. If you're going to do that, you may as well update to the new AT&T ROM. I, unfortunately don't have any other suggestions for you.
Actually, the only other thing I can think of is that it's an issue with your SD card, but that wouldn't explain why AudioManager won't update.
go to the music tab, bottom left softkey "library", slide over to "all songs", and play something on your phone. it should clear off all old songs and the new ones.
I actually found the solution on the AT&T support forums. (HOLY CRAP! Useful information was ACTUALLY found there for once!)
Two words:
Soft reset.
Don't know why I didn't try it sooner.
The Jack of Clubs said:
go to the music tab, bottom left softkey "library", slide over to "all songs", and play something on your phone. it should clear off all old songs and the new ones.
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The problem I was having, Jack, was that the music player wasn't detecting any of the new songs I had on the phone. 'All Songs' was blank, because I had deleted all the songs that were included with the device and it just wasn't seeing the new ones. At least not until I did a soft reset.
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The problem I was having, Jack, was that the music player wasn't detecting any of the new songs I had on the phone. 'All Songs' was blank, because I had deleted all the songs that were included with the device and it just wasn't seeing the new ones. At least not until I did a soft reset.
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I assumed you'd tried that. That's usually the first thing everyone tries, so I didn't even bother suggesting it. Glad you got it working.
i dont like to restart the phone. it takes a really long time to boot up. it always finds the songs with the way i listed. i even have all my album art.

Playing order in audiomanager ???

Hi all,
i've been trying to search for a solution but was so far unable to find one.
I'm running into the following (albeit minor) problem.
When I copy my music to the HD2 and let the Manila audio manager sort everything out, then the order of the individual tracks in the albums are all off, i can't find any kind of order in there, they are not ordered alphabetically or anything, and worst of all they are definitely not ordered according the album's play order as i would prefer them to be.
All the music I put on the card consist of complete albums i also use in iTunes, where they are all sorted as they should be, so they are also tagged as they should be.
Now, i know that both iTunes as well as audio manager use gracenote to get the info and album-art for the albums, but why does iTunes do the trick correctly and audio manager does not?
What do i need to change in the files to get it right?
I also find that, although album art is in the folder after "syncing" with gracenote, some albums just won't show the album-art?
Where do I go wrong? I simply don't like the thought of having to create playlists for all 12 or so gig's of music i have put on the HD2 to get them to play in the "correct" order as i would like to have it.
Thanks in advance . . . . . . . . . . .
Gert-Jan (Crazy-G) Klijn.
I use Mediamonkey to embed the album art in the mp3 tags. Works flawlessly and the Audio manager recognizes everything without problems.
Also have the lacking sort order issue which really sucks since I predominantly play audiobooks and going out of sequence there is a killer. Right now I'm using Mortplayer as it has the cool feature of having two main folders, one for Music and one for Audiobooks. But it would be much nicer in the sense audiomanager, since it looks better.
This has been an HTC bug for years, but only affects WMA files normally. MP3s should be okay.

META inf files?(SOLVED)

Where are they held?
The reason I'm asking is when I put music onto my SDcard no matter what player I use it misses over half of my albums. Itunes to my Ipod has no such conflict. So doing a little research lead me to the meta inf? If a folder gets transferred to storage it should still contain the meta data right? How do you make that data readable to the system?(for the record mizing, uber, miui, and stock all have the same results).
Thanks
hechoen said:
Where are they held?
The reason I'm asking is when I put music onto my SDcard no matter what player I use it misses over half of my albums. Itunes to my Ipod has no such conflict. So doing a little research lead me to the meta inf? If a folder gets transferred to storage it should still contain the meta data right? How do you make that data readable to the system?(for the record mizing, uber, miui, and stock all have the same results).
Thanks
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How are you putting the music onto the sd card?
From harddrive to folder to sdcard. So all the info pulled from the harddrive should be there? My music collection is very tight. Meaning all songs and album art are held in a single folder. Any ideas?
Are there by any chance any .nomedia files in the folders?
No .nomedia files in any of the folders.
What formats are you using on your music?
.m4a is the file type.
You might've downloaded some aac files from the itunes store right? Are you sure none of them have drm? Android won't be able to read them if they do
Sent from my awesome SGS4G
No aac files and I've never used itunes store. All of my music comes from other free sources. It's weird. I have about 50 albums and half are recognized half are not. The ones that aren't have the correct song names come up and even the correct album name but for some reason the artists name isn't being read.
hechoen said:
No aac files and I've never used itunes store. All of my music comes from other free sources. It's weird. I have about 50 albums and half are recognized half are not. The ones that aren't have the correct song names come up and even the correct album name but for some reason the artists name isn't being read.
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What are you using to manage your music library anyway?
FBis251 said:
What are you using to manage your music library anyway?
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On the computer I use Itunes(I have a Mac) on the phone either the stock player or the miui player that comes with AUDIOPHILE FTW. I've tried mizing as well. Thanks FB for looking into this.
hechoen said:
On the computer I use Itunes(I have a Mac) on the phone either the stock player or the miui player that comes with AUDIOPHILE FTW. I've tried mizing as well. Thanks FB for looking into this.
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Yeah this is a little odd. I'm sure you've tried the folder mode on mixzing? Can you give winamp a shot?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nullsoft.winamp
FBis251 said:
Yeah this is a little odd. I'm sure you've tried the folder mode on mixzing? Can you give winamp a shot?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nullsoft.winamp
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Tried winamp same thing. What is going on? On a side note tried winamps shoutcast for a second. How does Van Morrison end up on alternative?!
The only thing I can think to do is redo my music folder and download it again to my phone. It's crazy the files aren't corrupt because they play.
hechoen said:
Tried winamp same thing. What is going on? On a side note tried winamps shoutcast for a second. How does Van Morrison end up on alternative?!
The only thing I can think to do is redo my music folder and download it again to my phone. It's crazy the files aren't corrupt because they play.
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It might be a tagging issue. Not sure what method itunes uses to tag its files since mp3 files tend to use id3. That's why I'm glad on windows, Mediamonkey handles all the tagging. I have my folder structure really organized so that if I try to look for music from just a computer, no music player, I can find it.
/music/Album Artist/[<Album year>] Album/Track# Track title.
If you can get on parallels or bootcamp and can get mediamonkey on windows I'd give it a shot. I'll tell you how to force an update of the songs' metadata.
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It might be a tagging issue. Not sure what method itunes uses to tag its files since mp3 files tend to use id3. That's why I'm glad on windows, Mediamonkey handles all the tagging. I have my folder structure really organized so that if I try to look for music from just a computer, no music player, I can find it.
/music/Album Artist/[<Album year>] Album/Track# Track title.
If you can get on parallels or bootcamp and can get mediamonkey on windows I'd give it a shot. I'll tell you how to force an update of the songs' metadata.
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My music is organized the same way. I'll give media monkey a try when I get some time. Still gonna try just redownloading my music to the sd card when I get some time as well. I'll let you know how it goes. If you have any other ideas let me know.
Thanks
I have this same problem. I use Winamp to sync with my android. And i made sure using both Winamp and an independent tagging program that all my files have tags (artist, album, cover, etc.) and yet half of them still are not read on my phone. Not by Google Music app, not by Winamp, and not by Samsung Stock Player.
Could it be the file types that dont work?
The ones that DO have Artists reading all have the correct album artwork. The ones that DO NOT have artists according to my players all have albums, but about half of them do not have album artwork (the rest do). I'm not sure what's going on. I think it's an error within the Media Scanner?
(on a side note- if you include the track number in the file name of your song, it will show up as that when playing. I would recommend not putting the track number in the file name.)
Nickcu
I never figured out what's going on. Just learned to live with it. I think I might start playing around with it again and try to come up with some answers. If you figure it out let me know.
Im gonna look into it some more later, but i THINK it has something to do with the file type at this point. But don't quote me on that haha.
Just redid all my music. pulled all Itunes related crap out of the folders and it's still not recognizing about half of them. Gonna try some other stuff later. File type isn't part of it I don't think. It still recognizes and plays just shows up under unknown.
I just looked through mine and it seemed that all the files with unknown artist were in .m4a whereas the ones that recognized the artist were in .mp3
could you check and see if yours is the same way?

Media Library managment options for music and video

I am running Bubbleupnp and i love it.. streaming music to my TV from my computer controlled by my phone is amazing.
a am also running XBMC for movies and TV shows.
So my question is.
What library options do i have.
options i am looking for
I would like the library to gather album and artists data much like xbmc does
I would also like a library that could check the songs DNA to find the correct name
I would like the library to be able to edit the files data to include artist/album/genre info ect.
I would LOVE a library that will delete duplicate files
I would like the library to edit the names of music to just the song title
I would like the library to manipulate the source library by changing music folders around and putting every song by the same artist in the same folder.
i currently have over 10,000 songs and only about 5000 of them are in folders. some folders are albums, some are artists, some are compilation albums (like "Misc Dubstep") and some songs i have edited by cutting off intros or long stupid outros thus removing all artist data but the songs are still recognizable by DNA...
My library has been growing and getting more and more chaotic over the last 10 years or so. its become too much of a task to even attempt this myself.
I know there are programs that will do what i want... just not sure if there is an all inclusive Library Managment software outthere that i am unaware of. i would love to stop seeing [ ? ] icons when i stream upnp music to my phone or tv
What are my options
OK found some software and tried it out
MediaMonkey seemed good up front.. thought i had it with that one.. turned out that its more manual then automated. I clicked a file to edit and clicked on tracks with unknown artists... went to the search and hit apply.. and it changed teh album cover art, album, and artist to about 60 songs but put them all as Bach Cello suites.
after some research i did it wrong but the right way is more tedius. clicking one track at a time and updating the info you want.
so.. screw that program.
Then i found a program by accident when looking for help with the MediaMonkey called MusicBrainz
this is where its at...
now.. i dont know that it does Videos such as movies but i am more interested in the music..
So opened up and pretty straight forward..
i went into my music folder and searched for all files over 1mb (Size>1MB in the search) and moved all my music out of its containing folders
I then scrapped the leftover folders and random junk left.
Set MusicBrainz to the input folder
set the output folder to my normal music location
and set it to create folders with artist names and label the sons with only their song titles (%Artist%/%title%)
it took about 2 hours to run through the music and update the id3 tags
then that was all done the completed items go into the right pane of the program.
i selected all of them and hit save.. and boom.. its been pumping out folders for about
2 hours now with just the Artist name and no album folders. the way i like it.
I would recommend if your computer is not top notch do not try to do 10,000+ songs at once... my comp runs about 3grand 32gigs of ram and a quad core4ghz and my computer was boggin at times. also the program stopped responding if i messed with it too much.. i would recommend doing it in batches of 500 or 1000 at a time.
hope this helps someone else.. was super easy

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