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Text Problem!! This really sucks

Ok so when I get a text or email on my TF3D and I open the email or text. Then I hit reply/open the qwerty and the box comes. then I start to type and it goes into my phone!! I x the phone out and im back to main display with qwerty open. So then I have to go back in messages select message and reply.
Anyone else????? This is frustrating when you are trying to type a quick message.

Yes i have encountered this problem, not just with texting. Try pairing with bluetooth in landscape...i bet the passcode prompt does that same thing?

mrvanx said:
Yes i have encountered this problem, not just with texting. Try pairing with bluetooth in landscape...i bet the passcode prompt does that same thing?
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If issues like this dont get fixed I will dump this in the garbage drawer, sad but windows really needs to get stupid stuff like this figured out. I never have these issues with RIM and other devices.

GlobalM3 said:
If issues like this dont get fixed I will dump this in the garbage drawer, sad but windows really needs to get stupid stuff like this figured out. I never have these issues with RIM and other devices.
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Perhaps try a cooked ROM such as fireROM?? if you leave the ROM as it was when you bought it then you havent played the game!

mrvanx said:
Perhaps try a cooked ROM such as fireROM?? if you leave the ROM as it was when you bought it then you havent played the game!
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This is my first windows phone that has had the hardware I like so I havent really done all the cooked and hacks etc..
Can you link me to this I would love to keep this phone.
Thanks!

I think I have read somewhere that you should give it a sec or 2 before you actually start typing the qwerty.
This way you will have the same window infront of you.
Regarding BT, that really sucks but still a one time thing if it's a headset and you do not pair devices every day...
But all in all, I think we shouldn't be worried.
This is just S/W ****ty bugs that will be fixed when we have our great chefs cook their 3rd or 4th ROM release we will have satisfying results.
I just hope this forum gets the attention that was on Kaiser, then we will all enjoy
I remember Kaiser's WM6 ROMs had a similar bug,
Comm Manager kept popping every now and then infront of you and was fixed in time...
We have to keep in mind that this is the start and we will have to be keen on all threads posted around.
I just hope we get all the help from the greatest devs at Diamond forum as it won't be alot different.
Differences in time will be known to chefs and as they cook a Diamond ROM they can add some stuff and release it to Raph as well.
Way ahead of myself aren't I
Alot to look forward to, which is the fun of WinMo IMO
Cheers

the other way of doing it is to wait until the reply screen is actually shown before you open the keyboard.
If i hit reply in TF3d and then immediately open the keyboard before the compose screen has appeared, then yes, it does exactly as you describe.
if i hit reply, and then open the keyboard AFTER the compose screen has appeared, no such problem.
you need to let the messaging app open before you open the keyboard, otherwise the opening of the keyboard triggers tf3D, not the messaging.
Minor bug, and one that will no doubt be fixed soon enough by the devs here.

rhedgehog said:
the other way of doing it is to wait until the reply screen is actually shown before you open the keyboard.
If i hit reply in TF3d and then immediately open the keyboard before the compose screen has appeared, then yes, it does exactly as you describe.
if i hit reply, and then open the keyboard AFTER the compose screen has appeared, no such problem.
you need to let the messaging app open before you open the keyboard, otherwise the opening of the keyboard triggers tf3D, not the messaging.
Minor bug, and one that will no doubt be fixed soon enough by the devs here.
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I have tried this, it does not always work.
Thanks for the suggestion.

Messaging on the Touch Pro 2

Hey, sorry if someone already made a thread on this, I wasn't sure what to search for to find out, but here it is:
On the TP2, and I'm sure everyone with this phone has noticed it, while viewing txts in conversation mode, if you leave the conversation open and recieved X amount of messages from that person, when you close out, it will still say you have X number of unread messages, and you have to open and close your conversation X number of times before it shows as no unread messages.
I'm hoping HTC makes a fix for this soon because it is really annoying, but I wanted to see if any of you very capable guys here can make a simple cab fix for it.

I've noticed similar problems and I think it's a bug in the TF3D interface unfortunately.

Holy cow, that was my biggest gripe. I just stopped going into the WM messaging and I use the tf3d instead (click on the first msg from the messaging tab) and stay in there. It works right.

I almost always use the TF3d interface and I still have go occasionally go back in and enter the message again to get the indicator to go away, even after I've responded!

Agreed I hate it. I am not using the HTC interface (went with SPB) but if I get messages and chat in the SMS window it will not mark them as read. I HATE IT!

I haven't tried using the TF3d to see if it works better. I always used the default WM home screen cause I like it better. But either way, yeah hoping they will fix it lol It did it on my TP also, but only after I installed the latest update. With it being on that and on this one, I almost wonder if it wasn't a glitch and maybe it is intentional idk

I have also noticed it too. My old touch pro did the same thing. I have noticed on the touch pro two it changes between two different styles of text messaging screens, it really messes me up because the send button ends up in different spots.

when you're on the sms thread and you're talking to person just use your arrow keys to go up towards the one you haven't read. it'll show a closed envelope to the left of the message and as you press up and pass them the envelope opens up. no need to open and close.

Yes from the SMS inbox that's fine, but from the TF3D interface which is easier to get to than the SMS inbox if you're running TF3D then sometimes you need to read it again.

I was hoping they fixed this in 6.5 but NOPE of course not. WHY THE HELL ARE THERE TWO MESSAGING PROGRAMS!?!?!

kamitsuna said:
I was hoping they fixed this in 6.5 but NOPE of course not. WHY THE HELL ARE THERE TWO MESSAGING PROGRAMS!?!?!
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Exactly my question. I just disabled TF3D and use WM default I like it better. Plus you free up some resources.

tuxdreamerx said:
Exactly my question. I just disabled TF3D and use WM default I like it better. Plus you free up some resources.
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You disabled ALL TF3D or just the SMS in TF3d?

I used SBP Mobile Shell as a replacement for a bit, but i had some problems with it too....Are there any other shells out there worth looking at that might correct some messaging issues?

On a somewhat related note, has anyone else noticed that some people you get text messages will be an hour behind? Like you recieve the txt at 5:30pm and it shows as 4:30pm? My TP did this also. I don't know if there is a setting or something...

dont know if yall figured this out but the second post in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=585101&highlight=mark+read has all your answers. I installed the program and works like a charm. i now have the "mark all as read" option FINALLY!!!!!!! that little orange baloon with the little number was driving me absolutley nutts.

So i have a USCellular TouchPro2 fresh out of the box....
Somehow its stuck showing 1 unread message in the SMS inbox...i have tried deleting every text from the system...installing the InboxExtender and using the mark all read option..the rogue (1) still appears....anything else i can try ??
Thanks
UPDATE --
US Cellular says its a know bug that they are working to resolve....no ETA for the patch of course.....

philekins said:
So i have a USCellular TouchPro2 fresh out of the box....
Somehow its stuck showing 1 unread message in the SMS inbox...i have tried deleting every text from the system...installing the InboxExtender and using the mark all read option..the rogue (1) still appears....anything else i can try ??
Thanks
UPDATE --
US Cellular says its a know bug that they are working to resolve....no ETA for the patch of course.....
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Try the fix unread message count. Copy to phone and run then reboot.

Hey, on this topic, how do I make it so my default sms is the windows version instead of the HTC one that?
Anyone have a cab for that or can help me for the 6.5 update VZ tp2?

mac_0384 said:
Hey, on this topic, how do I make it so my default sms is the windows version instead of the HTC one that?
Anyone have a cab for that or can help me for the 6.5 update VZ tp2?
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+1 I wanna know this too except for the TMOUS version. I kinda hate the TF sms. Also has anyone noticed thatg when you type in a recipients name, it brings up ALL their numbers? My Tilt used to only show me mobile numbers for the recipient (which makes sense since land lines and faxes dont typically receive texts DDUUUHHH!!!) but i have on occasion sent a text to a friends home phone or fax!!

+2 I also would like to know if i can make WM my default SMS.

Slow SMS writing after 1.66 upgrade

Hey
I have just upgraded my hd2 to the newest 1.66 official rom the other day. it was primaraly to sort out the sms' not sending bug, which seems to be fixed now! yay!
However.. Now i am experiencing a new bug! Now when i type sms the writing is so slow that after i pressed space and begin to write a new word, the letters get on the screen before the phone has made the space, so everything is in one long word Hope you understand.
Generally what i am saying is that, after the new update i experience poor performance when writing sms. Am i the only one ?

I have the same "problem", but not all the time...
If I do a softreset, it types smoothly again.
But after some time, it get's slow as before the softreset.

I haven't noticed the sms yet - but I have noticed 1.66 makes scrolling through music a lot slower....

Thats true, after some time typing goes extremely slow and nees soft reset.
If you have only 40-50 sms surely wont happen.But thats not a solution!

If you want you can try to install the last SMS Hotfix (8007_07).
The original exe will not install, but i posted a cab in the "SMS Problem" thread...
This cab will install the latest Messaging Client 1.5 2011.3631.
Everbody claim it is integrated in Rom 1.66, but Messaging Client in 1.66 is 1.5 2011.1932 ...

Bimme said:
If you want you can try to install the last SMS Hotfix (8007_07).
The original exe will not install, but i posted a cab in the "SMS Problem" thread...
This cab will install the latest Messaging Client 1.5 2011.3631.
Everbody claim it is integrated in Rom 1.66, but Messaging Client in 1.66 is 1.5 2011.1932 ...
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I'm sorry Bimme,
might you give me a link so I'll get this *.cab? I haven't been able to find the "SMS Problem" thread so far, it'd be very kind of you

here u are... just scroll a bit down
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584696&page=90

dudu7559 said:
I'm sorry Bimme,
might you give me a link so I'll get this *.cab? I haven't been able to find the "SMS Problem" thread so far, it'd be very kind of you
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Could you possibly post your results after trying this out?
The last sms hotfix I installed caused the font in my inbox to become too big to fit on the screen. One more hard reset and re-installation/tweak-a-thon and I think I might lose it!

Swype from 2.07 rom required

HI can anyone tell me where to get new skype from 2.07 rom ???
thanks in advance.

You won't find anyone with it here. The best solution is to simply flash to a ROM that has it.

I have so much data on phone can't backup all of it so dont wana change rom for time being........

Im not sure where to grab the version of swype that has been extracted from the 2.07 rom... i am trying to find it myself!
The swype cab created from the version ripped from the Samsung Omnia 2 is all over the web though... google should bring up a couple of places to download it from.
Does anyone know of any differences between the two versions?

Audio Oblivion said:
Im not sure where to grab the version of swype that has been extracted from the 2.07 rom... i am trying to find it myself!
The swype cab created from the version ripped from the Samsung Omnia 2 is all over the web though... google should bring up a couple of places to download it from.
Does anyone know of any differences between the two versions?
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You will have to search in the underground... Extracting the software and offering it as a cab is clearly not wanted by the creators and owners of the software. Offering links to warez is completely against xda rules.
The difference between the 2 might be some more language support, and that the HD2 version was made for HD2, as simple as that. I think it still might be an option to flash a ROM which carries it on board - or, at least, as long as this is tolerated.
Maybe in the close future, HTC will bring another ROM update which offers this great piece of software. Or, as stated otherwise, Swype might decide to make a retail offer at some time. If they do at a decent price, I believe they could do great business - as seen with other products, at unreasonably high prices, you won´t sell big, but at fair pricing, you can succeed.

I cannot find the new version anywhere!
If anyone has a link or would like to email it to me that would be very much appreciated!!

Karlos G said:
I cannot find the new version anywhere!
If anyone has a link or would like to email it to me that would be very much appreciated!!
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pocketnow.com has written a nice article about it. Read it

i downloaded new version from pockernow article. noted some minor improvements.....
Karlos G said:
I cannot find the new version anywhere!
If anyone has a link or would like to email it to me that would be very much appreciated!!
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Are u refering to version 3.9?. I installed that and it reset my email pwds

Cheers!
It's also here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5679513

Hmm I get an error saying "Cannot Open English File" when Swype starts up anyone else having this?

kivine said:
Are u refering to version 3.9?. I installed that and it reset my email pwds
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I had the same thing, only installed yesterday so didn't do much checking of the phone. Quite a few problem were caused by the T-Mobile version . Data connection is screwed and all email passwords needed to be reset and my Wifi password are also gone lol. Did some reading online as well and quite a few other people have experienced the same problems, some have even had to HARD RESET to get their phones working correctly, fortunetly for me just uninstalling the CAB and giving the phone a few minutes resolved my Data connection issues , will put back on the Omnia version and leave it at that for the time being.
So I advice using the newest version of Swype with EXTREME caution!!!!

I tried it after much hesitation... Had to do a new setup for all email accounts, data connection and wifi connection. But it seems to be fine now, I'll see in a few days if it stays like that.

I'm using SWYPE WVGA 3.9.10.10.5032 on my HD2 without any problems.

xavierdemon said:
I had the same thing, only installed yesterday so didn't do much checking of the phone. Quite a few problem were caused by the T-Mobile version . Data connection is screwed and all email passwords needed to be reset and my Wifi password are also gone lol. Did some reading online as well and quite a few other people have experienced the same problems, some have even had to HARD RESET to get their phones working correctly, fortunetly for me just uninstalling the CAB and giving the phone a few minutes resolved my Data connection issues , will put back on the Omnia version and leave it at that for the time being.
So I advice using the newest version of Swype with EXTREME caution!!!!
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Had the same, but all I had to do was re-enter the passwords (and mail servers for gmail) and re-run the connection setup wizard. Now I'm fine and dandy and the software is nothing short of awesome... Supports Italian, German, French, English and Spanish; I tested all languages and it works fine

I'd say it is a crucial addition to the HD2, as I use it every day, and it makes my text input much less of a chore. It is particularly useful because of its multi-language support. I've never had any problems like those described, thankfully.

have you guys done any soft resets since the initial reset after installation? I also found the keyboard became slow to start after I played with the setting. the omnia 2 version is working better for me and with the htc skin looks awesome.

READ THIS BEFORE INSTALING THE NEW SWYPE! (v3.9)
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http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=1578221&postcount=50
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I can't believe no one else posted this...
If you overwrite the ModelID with the file provided, you are effectively telling your phone that you are now....a...tmobile hd2.
The swype keyboard has protection in it...only a tmobile hd2 will work with it.
hence why you need the modelid
now here is the kicker...
Say sprint - you run sprint tv. get an error. wanna know why? sprint asks "what phone" and your phone replies "tmobilehd2.
Same thing with prl updates...
I think you get the point...
when you overwrite the modelid, all exchange accounts - gone (sorta). Your 4 digit pin become a lockout - no pin will unlock it.
in short, bad things happen.
And this is why you always provision your phone before you set it up. part of provisioning is setting the modelid...
which is why people on mighty that forgot to provision before seting up exchange need that fix e-mails cab...
any questions?
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@leepriestenator, if I don't use any provider software, I can install swype without any problem right ?

leepriestenator is correct. Thanks. As our phones are all unlock where we are, the problem is just resetting the mobile provider. It is working fine on my phone, though the phone identity is now T-mobile_Leo.
Having said that, it is a much improved version over the one in Samsung.

Tellme Application for the HD2

Hi Guys,
Just wanted everyone to know there is a free app called:
http://www.tellme.com/you
Its like Microsoft Voice Command.....maybe it is....maybe its whats included in the new WP7S, however its an app that works on 6.5 and its great, fast and I actually like it.
Take a look and watch the video too.

got a cab of it?

Right, It's USA only... HD2 isn't even on the list and not downloadable on that website.
So whats this post all about?

There is a cab available, it does work on the HD2, to a certain extent. It's from the Samsung Intrepid, which I believe is a non-touchscreen phone, so touchscreen doesn't work properly (and we don't have arrow keys to compensate).
The program promises a lot, but delivers poorly. The voice recognition is quite poor (on my Scottish accent anyway). It can dictate a text message, but you'll be lucky if it picks up anything you're saying correctly.

elyl said:
There is a cab available, it does work on the HD2, to a certain extent. It's from the Samsung Intrepid, which I believe is a non-touchscreen phone, so touchscreen doesn't work properly (and we don't have arrow keys to compensate).
The program promises a lot, but delivers poorly. The voice recognition is quite poor (on my Scottish accent anyway). It can dictate a text message, but you'll be lucky if it picks up anything you're saying correctly.
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Thats true it doesnt work properly with non-american accents. I tried to search for La Tasca, it came back with a resualt of blackass.com ???????
I had to speak slow, but it did work eventually.
Out of interest, do anyof you have a cab for Microsof Voice Command ? I have the 1.6 version however it doesnt work on my HD2

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Thats true it doesnt work properly with non-american accents. I tried to search for La Tasca, it came back with a resualt of blackass.com ???????
I had to speak slow, but it did work eventually.
Out of interest, do anyof you have a cab for Microsof Voice Command ? I have the 1.6 version however it doesnt work on my HD2
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Make sure you use the corect MVS, i used 1.6 and it killed phone, not responsive to anything so hard reset saved me.
It actually requires MVS to work correctly but as others mentioned, its not good. Unlike the Youtube demo, it barely recognised what i say on several occasions and i spoke very cleary, slow and with no strong accent etc. Needs alot more work.

does not work at all on my hd2
i installed it and it loaded initially, then when i try to start it, it doesnt come up at all. i tried to install a new version of microsoft compact framework or whatever but then the phone will tell me i have to remove the previous version ,but then i obviously cant b ecause it does not appear in the remove programs list. this is very frustrating, can anybody help me?

Gateau Noël said:
i installed it and it loaded initially, then when i try to start it, it doesnt come up at all. i tried to install a new version of microsoft compact framework or whatever but then the phone will tell me i have to remove the previous version ,but then i obviously cant b ecause it does not appear in the remove programs list. this is very frustrating, can anybody help me?
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Only worry about a newer version of .Net if you're actually told by an application that you need it. Also, when installing something and it tells you you need to remove the existing version, that means it's already installed. The .Net 3.5 installation will not tell you you need to uninstall .Net 2.0, so you've already got the version you tried to install. Just forget about it.

I believe it needs MSVC to work, although I'm not sure. I think I had to install MSVC.
I've never installed it since, since it was so crap - I have a very neutral accent, and even tried an American accent, but it was still pish.

i have it on my TP2......it suuuucks and my accent IS american, lol.
btw, it will put asterisks in place when you use curse words, haha, at least it recognizes them with no problem, go figure!

I tried to send a text message, it got everythin right, but the message just sat in my outbox ...
Anyone else try this??
Marty

i just noticed that 'translation', blackass.com, lol. i wonder what you would have got if you DID ask for blackass.com! :O) ahhh, technology, more fun than the proverbial barrel of monkeys at times!

better this , voice ommander or something else? just to understand the maerket now

works great on my tmobile htc hd2

Oh, I hate TellMe so much I want to scream. I've managed to successfully use it on two occasions (where it actually understands what I've said). More often than not, it simply "thinks" and "thinks" until, ultimately, saying "Sorry, didn't catch that". I don't doubt that it works great for some people, but for this thick-accented outer-Bostonian, TellMe is an exercise in futility (and definitely not an app to break out to show off the HD2's power!!).

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I tried to send a text message, it got everythin right, but the message just sat in my outbox ...
Anyone else try this??
Marty
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I'm having the same problem.
I downloaded the TellMe application for HD2 at mobile underground
I have installed the WMPPC_TP_TP2_HD2.cab on my device and the application runs but when I send a text message the message appears to send ok but then gets stuck in my outbox. The message stays there until I send a text the old fashion way and then all the text messages are sent out.
The instructions on the mobile underground website say to make sure you have .NET CF 3.5 version:
*TELLME*: Install NETCFv35.wm.armv4i.cab.zip first on your WM PPC, before installing the TellMe App, get it here media..fire...
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But, I when I tried to install this I received a message saying I already had a newer version. See screen shot showing my 3.5.9198.0 version of the .NET Compact Framework. So, I'm assuming I have a newer version that should work with the TellMe but so far I have been unable to get it to send text messages properly.
Also, I'm running Voice Command v1.6.21889 , which came on the phone originally.
Has anybody else had this problem? Anybody know of a solution?

I have two T-Mobile HD2's sitting here with this installed, all work fine, except the same outbox issue on texts. I wonder what could be the issue or if there was some way to trigger the sending automatically.

I have an idea but not sure how to make it happen.
Obviously the TellMe application is only composing the message and putting it in the outbox.
So, the HTC Messaging should be able to periodically tell that a message is waiting or simply just try to send messages every now and then. After looking at the option in the Settings->Options while you are in the message application you can see that there are 4 options for Delivery: Immediate, 1 hour, 1 day, 1 week.
I wonder if there was a way to set the delivery at 1 second if it wouldn't try to send the message. This is just an idea and I'm not very experienced in customizing phones but I do some programing and could see this as a possibly.
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The other option would be to write a small program that would check the outbox and send any messages in it. Then you could use voice command or tell me to run the program by creating a short cut the this small program and calling it "Send Messages" or something like that.
Anybody have comments or suggestions on either of these ideas?