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Decent Web Browser at all?

I got a new orbit 2 a few days ago, only to be dissapointed about the web browser capabilities.
I tried opera, but dont like how the fit to screen option distorts the page and desktop option makes the page become massive and difficult to navigate.
Also, is there anyway way of watching online videos SMOOTHLY?
The flash plugin works but its really choppy.
Not sure whether ill be keeping the upgrade, taking offers for it.

The choppy video is probably because of the driver issues (you can read more about it in the forums if you search a little)
And did you get opera 8.5 bundled with your phone? Opera 9.5 is much smoother and better looking than the 8.5 version (imo), and i'll suggest you try upgrading to it to see if there is any difference.

I watched the video regarding Opera 9.5 but its still not released, and by the looks of what I gathered from other forums, people are becoming impatient.
Im currently using Opera 8.65 and no it wasnt bundled with my phone.
So will those driver issues fix the choppy video playback?.
Normal videos saved to the device work fine its just the online ones that use a flash applet like dailymotion

Try Skyfire (you'll have to sign up for it), is really amazing, is very fast and smooth

thegr8one23 said:
I got a new orbit 2 a few days ago, only to be dissapointed about the web browser capabilities.
I tried opera, but dont like how the fit to screen option distorts the page and desktop option makes the page become massive and difficult to navigate.
Also, is there anyway way of watching online videos SMOOTHLY?
The flash plugin works but its really choppy.
Not sure whether ill be keeping the upgrade, taking offers for it.
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Need to do some more research on it before you get it I guess.
Anyways, CorePlayer, TCMP player all play videos fine.
ALL browsers are FINE and work great for different things.
I myself use pocket IE for sites that are in mobile format, and opera 9.5 "beta" for sites that are not in mobile format. I would use opera mobile if it wouldn't install over my 9.5, instead of pocket IE, but all my text based sites work fine in pocket IE (ebay, paypal, howardforums, flickr, youtube, etc)
I don't really know who watches youtube videos or other internet based videos via their browser, I've always seen them being watched through TCMP, CorePlayer, WMP streaming or HTC streaming media.
There are no official driver updates coming.
I am unsure as to the technology that Dailymotion uses, but if it's youtube based then you should have no problems.
I think you are looking for a desktop in a pocketpc, which no one has quite yet. Maybe an HTC advantage, who knows.
Doesnt matter what phone you have, all software will run the same if the devices were made in the same time frame.
Oh and I assume orbit 2 is in Europe somewhere? None the less, Skyfire is available to U.S. numbers only apparently for it's beta. Maybe NetFront would work for you, try that. I hated it.

thegr8one23 said:
I got a new orbit 2 a few days ago, only to be dissapointed about the web browser capabilities.
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Have you tried Opera Mini? Their new beta v4.1 can be downloaded and really works great. My favorite browser so far.

try opera with limit paragraph on. that's amazing.

Opera 9 (beta) is working really well, especially for a beta. Panning in web pages is pretty smooth most of the time and as the above poster said, with limit paragraph on, reading articles on news sites, etc is doable.
The negatives are it is a beta so bugs here and there. Other issues are the touch keyboards (numbers only) don't work and neither does pocketCM (space between every character). I don't believe there is flash support in the browser either.
I use PIE for youtube/flashbundle combo.

whats flash bundle?

do a search on it. it allows you to watch videos from sites like youtube (the real youtube not the mobile version of it). those sites use flash video and the flashbundle is a plugin for PIE that enables that functionality in PIE.

I have the flash 7 plugin, is that the same thing?
Whenever i try and load the non-mobile version of u-tube on PIE,
The whole phone just crashes and i have to take the battery out!

thegr8one23 said:
The whole phone just crashes and i have to take the battery out!
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You know there is a little round hole on the bottom of the device next to the USB called the 'Reset Hole"??? Put the stylus in it and you won't have to get the battery out....

Just search for TCMP and FlashVideoBundle cab files and install them.
When you go to youtube.com and watch a vdieo, it will give you an option of saving or playing the video. It uses the true youtube video not some crappy mobile version as said before, and it's really smooth. I watch cartoons and shows that way that i can't get on my tv, it's a life saver. really great quality and resolution for my cruise.

Try NetFront 3.5 for the ultimate web experience on a phone It's a class of it's own
You can get it here.
http://www.access-company.com/products/netfrontmobile/browser/35_wm_tp.html

Picsel browser is fast and smooth and does a nice job of re-formatting, also reads .PDF files and a bunch of other things
Opera mini 4.1 is very good for browsing although I don't like the way you input web addresses, and lack of file save features.
And for tabbed browsing newest Opera or Pieplus

briggs81 said:
Just search for TCMP and FlashVideoBundle cab files and install them.
When you go to youtube.com and watch a vdieo, it will give you an option of saving or playing the video. It uses the true youtube video not some crappy mobile version as said before, and it's really smooth. I watch cartoons and shows that way that i can't get on my tv, it's a life saver. really great quality and resolution for my cruise.
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Does that solely only play Youtube?. or can it play other online video's too like Veoh and Megavideo and Toudo etc. etc.
I looked at that picsel browser, couldnt find a download link though ..

I love netfront 3.5 The site rendering on the pda is perfect.
Just try it but be do it quick as the concept version will stop 31 may 2008

thegr8one23 said:
Does that solely only play Youtube?. or can it play other online video's too like Veoh and Megavideo and Toudo etc. etc.
I looked at that picsel browser, couldnt find a download link though ..
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If the player on the page is based on Flash then possibly yes...

I just installed Flash 7 and it hosed my PIE. Froze the phone and had to soft reset. Could not view any page with flash content. I uninstalled and I'm back to being able to view with TCPMP. So basically flash 7 is not compatible with PIE... I was thinking about trying it with Opera Mini but didn't even get that far. Is Flash 7 necessary with Opera Mini or Opera 9.5?

bigboyhf said:
I just installed Flash 7 and it hosed my PIE. Froze the phone and had to soft reset. Could not view any page with flash content. I uninstalled and I'm back to being able to view with TCPMP. So basically flash 7 is not compatible with PIE... I was thinking about trying it with Opera Mini but didn't even get that far. Is Flash 7 necessary with Opera Mini or Opera 9.5?
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Not sure what the fascination is with playing YouTube thru the browser. I am not a real big YouTube user but I find that vTap is more than sufficient at playing whatever it is I need.

Youtube not loading on touch pro

Hi,
Can anyone tell me how to fix this problem. Thanks

can you be a bit more specified? what kind of connection are you on? are you using cooked or shipped ROM? can you browse other webpages?

i am using wi-fi connection and yes i am able to go on the internet, but not youtube. Keep getting a message saying "no videos"

right now youtube is under maintenance, do you have this problem before or just these past few hours?

I thought there is a youtube application provided? With that application, video is loaded fine. But when i tried to watch youtube video through Opera 9.5, it shown no video. Probably flash player matter?

Ok Thanks theclueless, maybe thats why its not loading. I will continue to try.

KuroiOni said:
I thought there is a youtube application provided? With that application, video is loaded fine. But when i tried to watch youtube video through Opera 9.5, it shown no video. Probably flash player matter?
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javascript is not enabled in opera 9.5 beta, and flash lite 2.1 doesnt support flv
either download the opera 9.5 build 1938 and install flash lite 3.1, or use the youtube app
@chink
mine is working now, maybe you should try yours

theclueless said:
javascript is not enabled in opera 9.5 beta, and flash lite 2.1 doesnt support flv
either download the opera 9.5 build 1938 and install flash lite 3.1, or use the youtube app
@chink
mine is working now, maybe you should try yours
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I also have the same problem with the youtube application not being able to connect, saying that there are "No Videos". I believe that this error started after I installed flash lite 3.1 and Opera 9.5 build 1938. I reverted back to build 1522 but can't figure out how to revert to the previous version of Flash Lite without a hard reset.

theclueless said:
javascript is not enabled in opera 9.5 beta, and flash lite 2.1 doesnt support flv
either download the opera 9.5 build 1938 and install flash lite 3.1, or use the youtube app
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How did you manage to get it working? I can watch youtube videos on youtube application but not on opera 9.5 1938

i never had any issues with the youtube application, played my videos fine...

I had the same about one week ago. No change after restoring the registry, after hard reset everything worked fine.

My YouTube app started working again a few days ago, without any changes on my part. Could it be that the service itself is flaky at times?

I am not using a proxy server anymore. Before that I had the same problem of not finding any video.

I had a problem using the YouTube app with TMobile. I had to do two things to fix it:
1. Disable the TMobile proxy
2. TMobile has a block on certain websites that may be 'adult' in nature/content. I had to get TMobile to disable this before YouTube worked. I found out about this by visiting YouTube from Opera and getting redirected to a TMobile page with instructions on how to remove the content lock
HTH

theclueless said:
javascript is not enabled in opera 9.5 beta, and flash lite 2.1 doesnt support flv
either download the opera 9.5 build 1938 and install flash lite 3.1, or use the youtube app
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theclueless, i still can't get it working on Opera but i never had a problem on youtube application. Any hint?
Note: I have 9.5 build 1938 and flashlite 3.1 installed.

Check out your youtube guys
Mine just started working out of nowhere

YouTube- Connection failed?
Hey all,
I just got the Fuze yesterday (i still kind of miss my Wizard ).
I've been having the "Connection Failed" error when trying to use the YouTube application. I wonder if it's content being blocked? AT&T hides the app since they have no parental controls, so I'm curious to find out an answer.
My old phone didn't use a data plan, so I have MediaNet, brand-new with my phone. I haven't cooked my Fuze yet, so i'm on the original ROM.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks!
------------------Edit:
Hey, I fixed it. HTC Fuze comes loaded with .NET framework v.2.0, so I just needed to upgrade to .NET framework 3.5. And that's why advanced config wasn't installing too!

ElementAg said:
Hey all,
I just got the Fuze yesterday (i still kind of miss my Wizard ).
I've been having the "Connection Failed" error when trying to use the YouTube application. I wonder if it's content being blocked? AT&T hides the app since they have no parental controls, so I'm curious to find out an answer.
My old phone didn't use a data plan, so I have MediaNet, brand-new with my phone. I haven't cooked my Fuze yet, so i'm on the original ROM.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks!
------------------Edit:
Hey, I fixed it. HTC Fuze comes loaded with .NET framework v.2.0, so I just needed to upgrade to .NET framework 3.5. And that's why advanced config wasn't installing too!
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If got both the 2.0 and 3.5 frameworks installed but still no connection. Advanced config works so I know the 3.5 framework is intact. Anyone think it would help to install the upgrade files from this site on it?

Opera Mini 5

Opera Mini 5 is available in the market.

gullzway said:
Opera Mini 5 is available in the market.
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downloaded, it doesnt have multitouch or zoom at all
hopefully in the next beta something like that will be present.
looks decent though.

yes,,its still a beta

it is faaaaaaaaast

Since its rendering on the server side, how does this broswer handle video streaming? (i mostly watch streams at livestream.com)

5.1 out with pinch to zoom, double tap..
Streaming seems to work too, opens up the streaming app (htc)

New：Full-featured browser（ Uzard ）Support flash

Full-featured browser (Uzard) support flash
Similar speed and Opera 10
Please forgive my poor English
wvga version
Individual Test experience: play video,support WIFI hotspot; can upload / download files; most important thing is can quickly . . . . . . . BUG: prone to dropped calls, I do not know whether use the connection (network) related？
All in all; is a powerful browser
download experience will know..

This browser is very good better than skyfire.plays flash 10 videos in full screen its stable tabbed browsing favorites superfast( close to opera 10 )
i gotta mention that the videos are a bit laggy but then again its still in beta
Really recommend to try this browser and share your feelings about it with us

I have to say, although I have barely used this new browser, I am very impressed with what I have experienced so far.
Excellent job.

It's similar to Mach5 Web, is there anything to do with it?

I like the browser. It will play Hulu videos. The only thing I don't like is that it detects videos and plays them in its own player. In its own player the videos are playing normal. If for example a site has a video ad then the clip you want to watch, the ad opens in the player then the clip stays in the browser and is very slow. If you try a video with Hulu, you will see what I mean.
Just to compare: Skyfire is blocked with Hulu, Opera seems to work but needs Flash 10

Brill
Fantastic - must be a catch somewhere. If i had to pay for this I would. Only issue so far is TVcatchup.com - won't play vids because it says i'm non UK - but i am. Any woraround for this?

Good browser only thing is that if video is detected it work like a charm
But if not you can't even watch the video it is very slow and you got now sound ...
So the only thing that should be improved is the video detecting mode.

Here is the website: uzard.com/en/main/main.asp

does it have multitouch? because if not, why should someone change fromopera 10 when it's so similar to it?
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the download is the P version... the H version should be a better choice? am i right? like opera mini vs. mobile.

shu8i said:
does it have multitouch? because if not, why should someone change fromopera 10 when it's so similar to it?
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Since it can detect video on 60% of the sites so you can watch real video.
And it got flash.

I can't find anything but their homepage
I tried it, but the only thing I get is their homepage,tried xda,google opera,all I get is page not found on my hd2,I'm in australia,but surely that should'nt matter,pity it looks promising

jan-willem3 said:
Since it can detect video on 60% of the sites so you can watch real video.
And it got flash.
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sry, but what do you mean by real video? do you mean full screen? just doubletap on the video in opera to get it fullscreen...

shu8i said:
sry, but what do you mean by real video? do you mean full screen? just doubletap on the video in opera to get it fullscreen...
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Well for example if you go to youtube. And you select a video you get:
Video detected do you want to watch it now. You press ok and you get the video full screen in Uzardwebs own player. As I already said this works about 60% of the sites sometimes it don't work.
And this is not opera this is just a complete different browser. So like you got opera, skyfire and Uzardweb.

Pretty fast and most of the sites I tried worked without issues. Much better than skyfire, but still not in the vicinity of opera mobile 10. Got a lot of connection errors, but that is to be expected considering it's still in beta. Scrolling is pretty bad, but at least I always got the desktop version of the webpage(especially irritating with opera). Gonna keep an eye on this one for sure!

I tried it just now..
Flash ,Browsing works for me without issues
Good Work
Best Regards

REALLY NICE ! Videos are working very well and speedly ! ANd not only on Youtube : all flash in working great !
Simply very fast !
Already love it !
Ps : skin editable by open the exe file on pc, but it's about 1000 files to change ...

also works with megavideo. although beta, is certainly one of the best around.

Tx a lot for this tip ! Wouldn´t have found it on my own.
It´s the first browser that fully works with my online aviation weather planning program "Skyview". Also shows iGoogle-page fully and clickable. Videos work nicely (with sound)
Although beta, seems to have good potential to beat skyfire, maybe once even opera.
The only pain ita is that it doesn´t save pwds and that rotation has to be done manually. Will try now to add it to rotation in BsB .........
Will have a close look on further devs of this nice browser.
Once again: Tx for hinting

Finezt said:
This browser is very good better than skyfire.plays flash 10 videos in full screen its stable tabbed browsing favorites superfast( close to opera 10 )
i gotta mention that the videos are a bit laggy but then again its still in beta
Really recommend to try this browser and share your feelings about it with us
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How can I watch video in opera 10 . It doesn't show

jan-willem3 said:
Well for example if you go to youtube. And you select a video you get:
Video detected do you want to watch it now. You press ok and you get the video full screen in Uzardwebs own player. As I already said this works about 60% of the sites sometimes it don't work.
And this is not opera this is just a complete different browser. So like you got opera, skyfire and Uzardweb.
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I didn't get that on hulu
the flash played natively in the browser but no sound =/
I'll try another video site

[Q] is youtube blocking 360p and above in browser?

I can view anything at or above 360p from YouTube via default or dolphin browser?
The default YouTube app sucks dong cuz it buffers forever and I can't change quality of video...
If anyone know why I can't choose 360p in browser please let me know.

In the YouTube app there is HD button to switch between SD HD.
If you visit the desktop version of YouTube on the xoom you will have the same options as you would on your computer.
If you don't know how to do that search for about:debug ua string.
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I am running desktop UA but YouTube would not play anything above 360p in browser.
Is it only me?
I prefer YouTube in browser than the dumb app.

Same issue here, seems to have just started a couple of days ago as it worked fine before when watching 720p in the browser. Now no videos work in pluse, stock browser or dolphin. Just get "an error, try back later". So then I click to go to the YouTube page for the video and still does not work. The only way to work is to swtich the ua string to android, I use the dolphin toggle extension but it is very annoying to have to do this all the time, I don't want to view mobile site on my tablet. Wtf is Google doing this, why block tablets from seeing HQ video, the main differentiation between their offerings and the ipad.

My guess, something to do with copyright. I personally think that its stupid to block mobile video in the first place.

I have had no issues. 720p plays in browser. Check your settings for playback on the YouTube site. If that don't work. Clear data for browser. That will loose all your bookmarks etc though.
Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk

Got the same problems myself now.

albundy2010 said:
I have had no issues. 720p plays in browser. Check your settings for playback on the YouTube site. If that don't work. Clear data for browser. That will loose all your bookmarks etc though.
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R u using desktop ua or android?

I have no problems with it either way. If its android it just loads the mobile then I click on open desktop site. When on desktop it just goes right to desktop of course. No issues.

Cant watch any videos on the desktop site now.

Stealyourface said:
Cant watch any videos on the desktop site now.
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You should be able to watch 240p

You're right, but that sucks.

Are you guys having the problem with stock Adobe Flash or only the modified version of Adobe Flash for hulu.com support?

Almighty1 said:
Are you guys having the problem with stock Adobe Flash or only the modified version of Adobe Flash for hulu.com support?
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Youtube doesn't even play for me with the flash from manta rom...

I have the modified hulu version.

am also using modified hulu version....

In my version of the hulu flash, all I modified was the version number and from Android to Windows so unless youtube now actually verifies the version number along with the version type, that may be the reason. There is a new version of Adobe Flash released yesterday, I will modify it as usual and will report the results here since I can't do much with hex editing as that is the only known hack.

Almighty1 said:
In my version of the hulu flash, all I modified was the version number and from Android to Windows so unless youtube now actually verifies the version number along with the version type, that may be the reason. There is a new version of Adobe Flash released yesterday, I will modify it as usual and will report the results here since I can't do much with hex editing as that is the only known hack.
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can you post please because I would like to watch YT on my xoom again.

If you all are still having troubles with your Youtube on the Stock Browser, Dolphin, Opera, or Firefox, can you please give me some more details on your settings?
When you say "Desktop Browser" are you refering to www.youtube.com and forcing it to stay that way or is it going to www.youtube.com and then changing to the mobile version, m.youtube.com?
(Only Stock Browser) Have you done the "Aboutebug" (Without quotes) mode and change your browser to LOOK like a desktop UI?
~~If you are using the "Aboutebug" Mode, are you running on Wi-Fi only or are you running 3g?
(Dolphin/Opera Browsers only) Have you gone in and changed the settings to make it look like a Desktop Browser or are you still allowing it to display as a Android Device?
When the videos do work, have you tried to clear your Cache and History to keep the information in the buffer low when you are just getting ready to watch videos/just after you are done watching videos? (I ask because I noticed on my Wi-Fi Stock Rooted Rom that if you do not use the Youtube App, it bogs down the Cache and the History just gets cluttered...)
Are you making sure there are not other applications running too and choking out the Browser UI's? (aka, getting a task manager and killing apps before you go into another app)
I hope to help you out, as well as others in the near future (be it advice or with the same problem) and get this problem resolved!
Thank You for the information in advance! ^_^

Sure,
When you say "Desktop Browser" are you refering to www.youtube.com and forcing it to stay that way or is it going to www.youtube.com and then changing to the mobile version, m.youtube.com?
=> No, I'm using desktop UA string so it is always www.youtube.com. I have to manually go to m.youtube.com.
(Only Stock Browser) Have you done the "Aboutebug" (Without quotes) mode and change your browser to LOOK like a desktop UI?
~~If you are using the "Aboutebug" Mode, are you running on Wi-Fi only or are you running 3g?
=> I have WIFI xoom so WIFI only.
(Dolphin/Opera Browsers only) Have you gone in and changed the settings to make it look like a Desktop Browser or are you still allowing it to display as a Android Device?
=> Yes, I am using desktop UA in dolphin as well. I don't see why using mobile UA on the tablet is usefull at all.
When the videos do work, have you tried to clear your Cache and History to keep the information in the buffer low when you are just getting ready to watch videos/just after you are done watching videos? (I ask because I noticed on my Wi-Fi Stock Rooted Rom that if you do not use the Youtube App, it bogs down the Cache and the History just gets cluttered...)
=> Videos ONLY WORK for me at 260p....doesn't matter whether I clear cache or history.
Are you making sure there are not other applications running too and choking out the Browser UI's? (aka, getting a task manager and killing apps before you go into another app)
=> Yes, rebooted and only running browser...tried many many times.