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Hey everyone!
First off I want to thank Dr. Gonzo again for the 6.1 rom. It's great and love it!
Second, I was using the HTC home screens that user tho made (found here) and I really got used to having the weather plugin on the homescreen. I really like how the homescreen is setup on this new rom, but I still want a weather plugin for it. Is there any way to add that plugin to this homescreen?
thanks.
if i was you i would try the following:
install the home plugin on your device. copy the .xml file from the plugin to your harddrive. open it and find the coresponding <plugin...> entry for the plugin. Then copy this entry to the xml-file of your skin of choice and there it should appear again... if it does not work or you have no clue what i was talking about, give me report.. i will try to do it for you,
Yea that's what I was thinking about doing. I just did not know if it would work or if it would look alright. I'm at work now so I don't really want to mess with it, but I'm going to try that when I get home.
ok. let us know if it worked when you're done
Wow this is a lot more difficult than I had thought. I can't find the weather plugin in the HTC Home screen and as the other thread may have tipped you off, the Sliding Panel home screen is very confusing to work with.
Basically what I would like to accomplish is to have Weather on my homescreen, while still using the Sliding Panel motif. So like if I could click over to the right next to where it displays the time it would show the weather. I'm going to keep working on this, but if anyone would like to jump in and help me I'd appreciate it.
Thanks.
according to the slide panel. I think all you can do is to manipulate the panels with basic configurations read out from the registry. It is not that easy to create something new, but i think a good point to start is always the manipulation of the welcome center, because this one is what most people need when they like to make "their own panels". The only way something will create a new slide is to code a plugin which is dedicated to appear in the slides. and still someone has to figure out what basic options are needed to create a new panel or to figure out what these guids are respectively.
Can you provide the htc home xml at least? it would be nice to have all extracted files in a zip file, so i do not have to install it again and pic all files out by myself.
Well that's sortof bad news that I can't create something new, however it might still be possible to edit the home panel to add that in?
I attached the xml for one of the home screens. I looked through it all and couldn't find the plugin for the weather but maybe you will have better luck than I will.
well, that is exactly what i meant. First choice, change one of the existing panels. If it works then and someone can explain those damn GUIDs I think we would manage to get it work on an own panel.
As far as it is "documented" in the XML (which is quite interesting i think for non wm6.1) this is the plugin-option for the htc home:
<plugin clsid="{B0C8AC4B-CDDC-4010-AAEB-076A2A6EB171}" name="HTCHome" height="88"></plugin>
This means to me, that cannot extract the weather-plugin for the homescreen unless you know how the home-plugin was made and the weather-plugin is a standalone, built-into htc home.
if you install the htc home, and edit your slidingpanel.xml with this tag somewhere, the home plugin should appear. I added the .xml for Frau Hottelmanns panther scheme with the htc home plugintag so you can see what i mean (not sure if the comment-tag is allowed, so just remove it before uploading to your device).
This is all I can do for you right at the moment.
Alright, Thanks a lot. I will try it when I get home.
I am really sorry that i wrote some damn ******* before It surely is possible to create new slides!!! It is just not possible to create a slide with ANY functionality
i just had the idea, that we may figure out what the minimal options for a slide are and then go on to figure out what the others are. But if we know the minimal options we could for example copy the testuiplugin-panel and try to get it work with the entire htc home plugin in it.
just wanted to write that, so you would not be that hopeless
Ok, what i found so far is:
- The htc home plugin works on wm6.1 as usual
- It seems not to work with the bronze-plugin in the same theme
* when loading the theme, the htc home plugin is displayed but vanishes as fast as the bronze-plugin is loaded.
* i played around with the height-attribute from the bronze-plugin but it seems to have absolutely no effect
- what i discovered in one of the previous skins is, that there are at least two major plugins for the htc home plugin which can be loaded in a theme. there is the notificationbar where the calls and sms etc. are shown and there is the htchome where the weather is displayed and so on.
- I also found that the exe-file for the weather-plugin is located at /windows/weather.exe so maybe its possible to configure the "output" on a call of this file and the weatherplugin is displayed (which means that we could put it into a slide)
- I also found an old thread here on xda for the "customization" of the htc home plugin, but it seems that the way the plugin works has changed since this thread and the version gregory released
- what is missing is something like a documentation on the htc home plugin, so which parts are implemented, how are they called from the homescreen etc. maybe gregory, if he's still around here has any idea(s) ???
- i just got that the weather.exe sets the city, downloads and refreshes the local weatherdata. So the output has to be somewhere else.
sounds like you are onto something here. Since the HTC home weather plugin is causing some problems, I think I am going to take a look at some other weather plugins. They might make it a little easier. I'm specifically looking at SPB Weather and Fizz Weather.
The only problem is, once I install them I'm not really sure how to put them into the slide panel. I'm going to play around with it and I'll let you know.
A tip from my side... always start from the delivered .xml files for the theme. mostly you can see there how they are implemented in the home-screen... then you just have to copy it.
i am wondering why the htc home plug does not work with the bronze. rinkus iconbar does, and its also just another plugin implemented... It also would not make sense that microsoft put something in the code of bronze which disables other home plugins
kimamil said:
A tip from my side... always start from the delivered .xml files for the theme. mostly you can see there how they are implemented in the home-screen... then you just have to copy it.
i am wondering why the htc home plug does not work with the bronze. rinkus iconbar does, and its also just another plugin implemented... It also would not make sense that microsoft put something in the code of bronze which disables other home plugins
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You mit be better waitin until HTC release a WM6.1 Standard ROM to see if HTC customize bronze to have parts of there Home plugins integrated and extract everything from a ROM then making a cab file to install it .
Roland
this was my first thought, but as you may know, there are people out there (yes, i am one of those ) that do not like to wait and have things first and before all the others do
kimamil said:
this was my first thought, but as you may know, there are people out there (yes, i am one of those ) that do not like to wait and have things first and before all the others do
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Have you tried using Facade to use the HTC plugin with Bronze?
Roland
nope. i thought one has to BUY facade???
Heres mine after removing the horrid ATT one and browsing the Diamond forums for some options (theme, flipping clockclock, etc) Also added ariel battery in the upper corner to see battery percentage.
hspda
how did you get hsdpa on ur phone? I know this is totally off topic
yzf750 said:
Heres mine after removing the horrid ATT one and browsing the Diamond forums for some options (theme, flipping clockclock, etc) Also added ariel battery in the upper corner to see battery percentage.
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another off topic question.... by installing Ariel Battery, does it just replace the current battery meter or did you have to switch off the origional batter meter (if so, how do u switch it off?).
thanks dude
sammypwns said:
how did you get hsdpa on ur phone? I know this is totally off topic
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There is a registry setting you can use. I'm not sure of the exact details. Try searching around.
Or, you can flash romeos where it is already enabled.
yzf750 said:
Heres mine after removing the horrid ATT one and browsing the Diamond forums for some options (theme, flipping clockclock, etc) Also added ariel battery in the upper corner to see battery percentage.
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Hi,
Could you be most specific on what you used? I like the tf3d buttons. Lots of stuff out there and I have yet to run into it.
Thanks
Edit: Simply Black!
venom037 said:
another off topic question.... by installing Ariel Battery, does it just replace the current battery meter or did you have to switch off the origional batter meter (if so, how do u switch it off?).
thanks dude
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It will go over the original battery meter. Use the arrows in Ariels options to move it over there. Colors are also changable. Put the ariel battery exe in your /windows/startup on the fuze, This way it starts up automaticly each time.
Advanced config (sticky) found in the Diamond forum has the option to enable the H icon also.
yzf750 said:
It will go over the original battery meter. Use the arrows in Ariels options to move it over there. Colors are also changable. Put the ariel battery exe in your /windows/startup on the fuze, This way it starts up automaticly each time.
Advanced config (sticky) found in the Diamond forum has the option to enable the H icon also.
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thanks dude, ur a star... back to ur origional post as it seems it totally went off topic... I use the stock ROM and don't use the TF3D as it drains battery. In theory its great but my peeve is that in the TF3D, I cannot see multiple calander entries. What I mean is I use SPB Diary and I can see my appointmets up to 31 days in advance and that is more useful to me... therefore I use the standard WM screen but installed SPB Time, Diary, and Phone Suite.
thanks
Today Screen Question
2 questions on the OP
1. are you getting major slow down on the black theme? I've put 2 diferent ones on my fuze and it takes 5 or 6 seconds for the people to come up on the tab, programs and others are almost as slow. Standard ATT grey is kind of ugly, but it's super fast, everything comes up immediately in tf3d
2. (probably make myself look dumb) what are you using to show your screen and get a picture? Are you literally taking a picture and cropping, or is there a tool of some sort to do this?
Thanks
cparkhorn said:
2 questions on the OP
1. are you getting major slow down on the black theme? I've put 2 diferent ones on my fuze and it takes 5 or 6 seconds for the people to come up on the tab, programs and others are almost as slow. Standard ATT grey is kind of ugly, but it's super fast, everything comes up immediately in tf3d
2. (probably make myself look dumb) what are you using to show your screen and get a picture? Are you literally taking a picture and cropping, or is there a tool of some sort to do this?
Thanks
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After running all the well know perfomance tweaks off the forums here I really dont notice too much slowdown over the att theme. I notice maybe a 1 second delay on the touch flo screen from the time the tab is picked and let go until it loads the content of the screen. I can live with that.
Lots of freeware screen capture programs that do the basic job ok, I just stuck Screen Capture v1.1 off some ppc freeware site to snap it. I dont really need a fancy program for that It puts a bmp or jpg in your "documents" folder on the ppc then.
cparkhorn said:
2 questions on the OP
1. are you getting major slow down on the black theme? I've put 2 diferent ones on my fuze and it takes 5 or 6 seconds for the people to come up on the tab, programs and others are almost as slow. Standard ATT grey is kind of ugly, but it's super fast, everything comes up immediately in tf3d
2. (probably make myself look dumb) what are you using to show your screen and get a picture? Are you literally taking a picture and cropping, or is there a tool of some sort to do this?
Thanks
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1. I'm using one of the black themes and it only takes about 2-3 seconds for the people to come up. (A second or two slower than AT&T but not too bad.)
2. Try My Mobiler at www.mymobiler.com
My Touch Pro HomeScreen Vista Mobile
Hope you Guys like it I Add to it Everyday I also have a mini Bluetooth Mouse To Control Everything....
wow...cool!
How did you get that Vista them like that, a particular program?
nucentury08 said:
Hope you Guys like it I Add to it Everyday I also have a mini Bluetooth Mouse To Control Everything....
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i would really love for my screen to look like the blkue theme you have going. looks great! wold you share?
Still using ATT Theme, with tweaks
I tried using full theme from diamond threads, but they make my tf3d crawl, even with every tweak I've found. I found some threads that make it easy to change things, like add clock - icons - and then get rid of top and bottom curtains. Just used old fashioned today theme .tsk black to change top and bottom bar, and added wallpaper in tf3d settings, although right now that picture doesn't carry over to the other tabs, mun has a program to do that but it kills my clock to all zeros all the time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2877234#post2877234
chrome clock and icons
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436301
tools to alter screen without using full theme change (be careful on fuze background in every tab kills my clock)
Here is my current
Vista ui
Thresher said:
How did you get that Vista them like that, a particular program?
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I just use The new Wisbar Dektop 2.2 And a Vga Wad pak And A Lot Of Time.lol
asadkhan1988 said:
i would really love for my screen to look like the blkue theme you have going. looks great! wold you share?
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I just use The new Wisbar Dektop 2.2 And a Vga Wad pak And A Lot Of Time.lol
First off I want to thank everyone here at XDA for all the hard work and effort you put into tweaking these great devices.
Now, on to my question, I've searched here and the diamond forum and I can't find any mention of a way to change the shortcut buttons on the landscape TF3D screen. I would really like to be able to customize that screen with shortcuts to applications I actually use. There must be a way to do this, has anyone got an idea?
First post , please go easy on my noobness.
Searchipoos......
Post #9 on first page, bottom ish of second page for a bit extra
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426328&page=2
Thanks Ouza but I saw that post and it's not what I'm looking for. This only deals with changing the two softkeys at the bottom of the landscape screen (which is nice in itself).
I'm wanting to change the 6 big shortcut ''buttons'' above that.
Basically I'd like to make the landscape screen the same idea as the programs tab in TF3D or something like it.
Any ideas... anyone??
I would seriously like to change the big shortcuts as well.I have a dock in my car using the video out. Video out forces Landscape mode. When I hop in my car, I dont want to take notes or check tasks, I want GPS, internet radio, Live Search...
I will dig deep into the registry and let you know what I find.
I want the same thing !!
Video out in the car, so I want to be able to start my Navigation from the landscape-menu.
Jochen
Change Landscape Menu
For the TV out menu that pops on screen after you plug in the video out cable, you can change the shortcuts in the registry.
HKLM\Software\HTC\TVOutPopUp\
There are four links in there, you can change them to any app installed on your phone. Only problem im having is changing the icons.
I have to bump this thread. There must be a customizer out there for the lanscape shortcuts! I just may go back to HTC Home if there is no way to put shortcuts in landscape!
I doubt this is exactly what you're looking for, but herg62123 is working on adding landscape tf3d to his project. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=447056
Not quite,
I have my TP docked in landscape in the car and I would like to open apps like NAV, or Picture Dial, or Kinoma Play in landscape.
jlivefat16 said:
First off I want to thank everyone here at XDA for all the hard work and effort you put into tweaking these great devices.
Now, on to my question, I've searched here and the diamond forum and I can't find any mention of a way to change the shortcut buttons on the landscape TF3D screen. I would really like to be able to customize that screen with shortcuts to applications I actually use. There must be a way to do this, has anyone got an idea?
First post , please go easy on my noobness.
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I don't think there is going to be any easy way to customize those shortcuts. I'm pretty sure the landscape shortcuts are hard-coded in one of the binary manila files.
That sucks!
Well I guess HTC Home will do for now.
You could change the softkeys to point to two of the apps you want to run. Not the perfect solution but it's better than nothing...
I guess....
Maybe I can use 2nd today and set a button to it with AEbutton and have HTC HOME for landscape and TF3D for portrait.
Thoughts?
sandiegodude said:
I guess....
Maybe I can use 2nd today and set a button to it with AEbutton and have HTC HOME for landscape and TF3D for portrait.
Thoughts?
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Sounds like a good solution. I haven't used either product but from what I've read on here that should work. good luck!
Glad to see this topic getting some attention finally
For anyone interested, try out this theme with a slimmed down version of tf3d in landscape. It may suit what you're wanting more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=458036&highlight=landscape
Frankly, though, I didn't like it, and preferred to go back to my old theme. My main goal was having a landscape screen with a handful of a few apps I'm most likely to use, but in this theme you still have to scroll through your entire list of apps installed so, it really wasn't any kind of shortcut.
I'll keep sorting through all the manila files for a solution. Anyone with any reference docs or anything on creating themes or customizing tf3d would help as I've never dealt with it until now.
jlivefat16 said:
Glad to see this topic getting some attention finally
For anyone interested, try out this theme with a slimmed down version of tf3d in landscape. It may suit what you're wanting more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=458036&highlight=landscape
Frankly, though, I didn't like it, and preferred to go back to my old theme. My main goal was having a landscape screen with a handful of a few apps I'm most likely to use, but in this theme you still have to scroll through your entire list of apps installed so, it really wasn't any kind of shortcut.
I'll keep sorting through all the manila files for a solution. Anyone with any reference docs or anything on creating themes or customizing tf3d would help as I've never dealt with it until now.
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I've been searching around and noticed that indeed themes do change the "landschape shortcuts" but there doesn't seem to be a "general" program that's able to change them. I'm a little confused, because some reactions state it isn't possible to change these "shortcuts", saying they are hardcoded. Does this mean they're rooted so deep in the code that it's very hard to change them? Anyway I keep following this thread and hopefully some come up with a solution... Keep it up!
*Wish I could help*
Update 27/11/2009:
I have now made a multi-device version here. It adds landscape support and the text is slightly larger to accommodate devices with smaller screens which I think looks better on the hd2 too.
Old version:
Hi All,
I wasnt very impressed with other 4-wide and 5-wide options, so I just modified the .cpr from my hd2 myself.
This doesnt touch the registry, so wont be much use for non-stock ROMs and other devices unless you edit it yourself:
HKLM\Security\Shell\StartMenu\CustomGridForm = "StartMenuCust"
You will need to soft reset after installing.
Enjoy!
Could you please post some screenshots?
No problem, screenshots added to post 1.
My CustomGridForm is already =StartMenuCust. Should your cabs work on my case (original rom)?
Other question: Did you get your start menu to work on landscape? I've seen some threads about this but I would like to know where to change this on the reg myself. Some apps might have unstable behavior when adding apps to the white list.
Thanks!
If you are already StartMenuCust it should work - I think its only when custom roms start coming out that will change.
I should have mentioned - This is just for portrait. You could change the landscape yourself as it is fairly trivial. Look in \Windows for:
StartMenuCust_480x800.cpr = Portrait
StartMenuCust_800x480.cpr = Landscape
Edit these in notepad (it is just xml). You have to change the row count to 4 and change the relative size of the images, text etc.
Just tried this out .... very effective thanks!!
just a little point, after the install, the black screen offers a Restart button or cancel; on my stock HD2 neither worked, it had frozen. A soft reset got it going again, with a 5-column display
any chance of gettin them in a straght line instead of honeycomb?>
Editing seems to be simple enough. The problem is that my start menu doesn't rotate automatically. I could use gyrator to make it work but I would prefer to use the whitelist or any other reg edit. I avoid using programs that have to be running in the background or tweak my Leo for me, as much as possible. If I reg edit and it doesn't work, I know what I did and can always change it back.
Any idea on how to do this?
Thanks!
pdgpereira:
This thread seems to cover the reg changes you need to make. I havent tried it though!
vinokirk:
Not a clue, sorry!
Armes:
I dont know why it crashed for you. It asks you to restart itself (presumably because it changed a system file) so its installers fault!
Thanks for the link. I had been there but with no previous success. I finally did it. I isolated the reg tweaks made by gsen cab, I think, and added some others. A soup of reg tweaks... The problem with cabs is that you never know what exactly they do. I'll be doing some reg cleaning in the next hour.
Now I will try out these 4/5 columns in landscape.
Thanks guys!
Cab for QVGA
Can you please release a QVGA version?
vinokirk said:
any chance of gettin them in a straght line instead of honeycomb?>
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I was also wondering this... Maybe setting HexagonGrid="FALSE" in the .cpr files does the trick? Will try it out and let you know.
vdws: I wouldnt recommend touching the HexagonGrid option. Im not really sure what it is for, but if you set it FALSE your start menu wont work anymore. Well, it will, but after a long pause while it changes back to the default WM6.5 grid. You would then need to change the registry value mentioned in post 1.
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Can you please release a QVGA version?
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I am happy to convert mine to qvga - and tried but its quite hard to judge in the emulator what it looks like. I dont have a qvga device and I cant seem to use the htc fonts in the emulator.
Have you seen:
[Tweak - QVGA] [3-Sept] | 4/5 Portrait | 4/5/6/7 Landscape | Start Menu 6.5
by chris10234?
That looks like it will suit your needs fine. Let me know if you really want my version but i would need you to test it a few times for me!
Looks amazing cant believe i spent the last 4 days without this tweak thanks for doing it before i had to as it was my plan!
Just wish that landscape would auto-rotate on it...
isangelous said:
I am happy to convert mine to qvga - and tried but its quite hard to judge in the emulator what it looks like. I dont have a qvga device and I cant seem to use the htc fonts in the emulator.
Have you seen:
[Tweak - QVGA] [3-Sept] | 4/5 Portrait | 4/5/6/7 Landscape | Start Menu 6.5
by chris10234?
That looks like it will suit your needs fine. Let me know if you really want my version but i would need you to test it a few times for me!
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Thank you very much for you kind help!
If I want to change it back to original setting, is it just simply uninstall it ?
-----Note------ I had tried it, eveythings back to original by simply uninstall the cab file. Now I am using the 5 items wide, it looks smaller but more tidy than 4 items wide.
Very good and thanks.
Any chance you are going to make some landascape ones?
As i added auto-rotate with bsb-tweaks and now have 5 in portrait and landscape but landscape could much much better...
EDIT: Saw the other thread and if i go for the 5 cab there it will give me 9-wide in landscape, right?
adab: Thats right, uninstalling the .cab should restore the rom default.
chris10230: Yup, I have an updated one here which supports landscape too. For the HD2 WVGA thats 5 portrait and 9 landscape.
Cheers once again!
Ok so firstly i have spent 30minutes checking and im yet to find it, if its already been asked/answered then sorry .
Im basically looking to remove the useless items(for me) on the home screen :
The weather- I check this on the seperate tab so i dont need it
The massive clock- Blocking majority of the screen, has time on the top right so again no need.
Disable quicklinks unless i scroll down the home page(i think this is possible already)
Calendar- Tried removing and is still there.
Im trying to minimise the stuff on the screen to admire the wallpapers , havent found a way through the options or via cab's to do any of this, if anyone has suggestions then id appreciate it .
Using duttys leo cooked rom, Manila 2.5.20113626
MaxManila (which you can find here at xda) is able to customize almost anything you might want to change - adding or hiding elements is easy.
There may be other options of course, but I think this is the most convenient.
Just make sure you install the correct version for your Manila.
hicks12 said:
Ok so firstly i have spent 30minutes checking and im yet to find it, if its already been asked/answered then sorry .
Im basically looking to remove the useless items(for me) on the home screen :
The weather- I check this on the seperate tab so i dont need it
The massive clock- Blocking majority of the screen, has time on the top right so again no need.
Disable quicklinks unless i scroll down the home page(i think this is possible already)
Calendar- Tried removing and is still there.
Im trying to minimise the stuff on the screen to admire the wallpapers , havent found a way through the options or via cab's to do any of this, if anyone has suggestions then id appreciate it .
Using duttys leo cooked rom, Manila 2.5.20113626
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thanks for the reply and links, however i did try those in that thread and i ended up with my HD2 failing to load htc sense . Id rather remove the features than make them transparent apart from the slider which i managed to make transparant .
What section is the download for MaxManila in?. Is it specific for hd2 or is it somewhere else, cant find it on its own in here so far .
edit: actually no i missed the no clock from your link! I tried the other parts originally , just tried it and it works perfectly now however i stillk need to somehow get rid of the calendar and weather along with quicklinks .