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Best PDA nowadays?

I tried the search button but couldn't find my answer.
My XDA II is having some "age issues" and I'm planning on replacing it.
But, what is the best choice nowadays? What is the best replacement for my XDAII? I'd like a similar one but with WM5, better camera maybe, WIFI, BT and a powerful but stable processor of course. I’m using Tomtom navigation on it as well.
Thanks for the advice.

Hard to say. I'd say, right now, either the Wizard or, if the price difference isn't a problem, the TyTN. I wouldn't myself get the Universal - I have both the Univ and Wizard and prefer the latter in everyday life.
Or, if you don't mind the need for manual import, the new VGA Gigabyte i128 (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=273825 ).
Finally, you can wait for the O2 Flame / HTC Omni, they're hopefully much better than the Universal

Thanks for the quick reply Menneisyys, I'm looking into it.
TYTN looks promising..

Hello,
I would say that the best choice at the moment is TyTN. I have one and I must say that this is it. I have had also Universal for some time so I've compared them and for me TyTN is better. Maybe the processor is 400MHz but from what I've heard Samsung has better architecture that Intel. For me it's enough, besides I must tell that Universal sometimes had some lags (probably the reason is VGA screen). You can compare technical details and besides VGA screen (and eventually the processor) TyTN has better tech specs. It's smaller, fits in your pocket without problems (Universal is really much bigger, i can send photo of these two lying to each other if you want) and i prefer the keaboard of TyTN as well. I must say that I'm very pleased with this device

i dont want the slide keyboad and the thickness it adds so imho
Trinity is what i would get

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284452
id say wait a lil while

toemke said:
I tried the search button but couldn't find my answer.
My XDA II is having some "age issues" and I'm planning on replacing it.
But, what is the best choice nowadays? What is the best replacement for my XDAII? I'd like a similar one but with WM5, better camera maybe, WIFI, BT and a powerful but stable processor of course. I’m using Tomtom navigation on it as well.
Thanks for the advice.
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It is hard to say what is the best pda it all depends on your usage and what qualities you prefer in pda. I would say HTC Artemis/HTC P3300/O2 XDA Orbit is one of the best. It has integrated GPS, pretty compact and very light for Pocket PC, decent screen, good phone functionality and good battery life.

that samsung is not a phone though it's more of a microlaptop
and i know as soon as i get a device with gps
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_positioning_system
will hit and blow gps out of the water

It is hard to say what is the best pda it all depends on your usage and what qualities you prefer in pda.
v.v good point well made

Hi Rudegar, long time no see.
Thanks to all of you for the inputs.
I think I narrowed it down to TYTN or Trinity.
Next stop is E-Bay...
Thanks again.

toemke said:
I tried the search button but couldn't find my answer.
My XDA II is having some "age issues" and I'm planning on replacing it.
But, what is the best choice nowadays? What is the best replacement for my XDAII? I'd like a similar one but with WM5, better camera maybe, WIFI, BT and a powerful but stable processor of course. I’m using Tomtom navigation on it as well.
Thanks for the advice.
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Hi have look at this.
http://www.4winmobile.com/viewtopic.php?p=42938
It provide a good over view, and some more links to see if there is any one else out there that can answers your question. After my current phones contract expires, end of Feb, I will get one. I can’t wait…

Now this is what I call a review! Looks like a great device.
Thanks treecare.

Rudegar said:
that samsung is not a phone though it's more of a microlaptop
and i know as soon as i get a device with gps
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_positioning_system
will hit and blow gps out of the water
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Galileo is still some way off becoming operational - I should worry about it just now.

If you want a one hand phone, you should definitely look into a P525 by ASUS. The benchmark tests are amazing. I'm getting mine in 2 days.

My Universal is over a year old and I still love it. I don't think that for me the TyTn is a replacement for the Universal. I simply love the large VGA screen and the keyboard, though this comes with a downside of large size. However during this time I never felt that it was too large not to be pocketable.
I will wait till a device comes out with a large VGA screen and a qwerty keyboard.
But as we all agree these are personal preferences. I do a lot of work on the Planmaker spreadsheet and a lot of browsing using Netfront and so a good screen is probably on the highest priority.
Regards

I use mine mostly as a phone, planning of agenda's, calculations, tomtom navigation, Aviation navigation and utilities, camera and some utilities from programs I installed on it.
My XDA II did just fine but I miss the WM5. Rotating screens and stuff and the fact that is starting to show some defects (sound disappearing, self soft reset...)
I want the same PDA but up to date..I think I got a pretty good idea of what I want now. TYTN, Trinity or XDA Orbit.

Considering Orbit 2...a few questions

I currently have a Blue Angel and I'm considering upgrading to an Orbit 2.
How would the performance compare between the 2? They're both 400MHz, but I just wondered how the Qualcomm is compared to the XScale?
Apart from the video driver issue, are there any other problems with it? I'd mainly be usig it for a phone, and running Tomtom.
Thanks!

Seriously... Don't bother!

LOL...it's that bad?
Can you explain why?

You will miss your qwerty. I don't know your Blue Angel, But my TC (i think all PocketPCs) has a delay when somebody calls you. Your phone will ring/vibrate after the one who calls you hears the first ring. So if somebody just gives you a call with one ring (bip) you won't hear it! Is it the same in your case, or mine is special? Maybe somebody else with TC can confirm/infirm this...

Yea, mine sort of have that sort of dealy.
I don't use my QWERTY keyboard anyway so that's not a problem.

the_scotsman said:
LOL...it's that bad?
Can you explain why?
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Just everything about it...
The build quality is terrible. Feels like a new hobbyist threw it together in 5 mins.
It seriously underperforms compared to my Old SE P990i and older XDA's
The modifications o2 have made to the software are rubbish.
I'm miffed I didn't hold out for the SE X1i

^ In your opinion, yes its not perfect, the screen is less than ideal but the build quality is great I think. Much better than my old SE P series phone which used to creak whenever squeezed etc and the flush screen is better than orbit 1
But I would hold out for the Diamond

I want the built in GPS, and the Diamond prices ae too much for what it is...
Any other decent HTCs with built in GPS?

the_scotsman said:
I currently have a Blue Angel and I'm considering upgrading to an Orbit 2.
How would the performance compare between the 2? They're both 400MHz, but I just wondered how the Qualcomm is compared to the XScale?
Apart from the video driver issue, are there any other problems with it? I'd mainly be usig it for a phone, and running Tomtom.
Thanks!
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I've just switched from a Hermes/Tytn to the Orbit2. HardSPL'd it and installed the WM6.1 that's been floating about here and installed TomTom.
Losing the keyboard is a bit annoying (on screen is usable, but nowhere near as good) - but I realized I very rarely typed anything and smaller sized massively outweighs it.
GPS works very well - especially as Quick GPS which really does work.
Downsides:
Lost keyboard.
Upsides:
GPS - now just not having to lug around and charge my BT GPS module, but now much faster and lets me do all manner of stuff (geo-tag photos with a reg tweak), GPS trackers allowing me to see where I've been in google maps blah blah.
Much better camera - not so much the 2M -> 3M change - but AUTOFOCUS.
SMALLER - now it's not a small phone, but it's not an f'in brick like the last one.
No real difference noticed between the processors. Latest 6.1 I put on my Hermes made it lovely and snappy - and performs exactly the same on the Polaris. Only reservation I've got with the polaris is the screen res (i.e. same old rubbish). Not entirely convinced Hi-res WM is much better though after playign with colleagues PDAs - I've got an ipod touch and THAT is what i'd want somehow wedged into my phone..
In summary, if you want a phone now, I'd definitely get the XDA. If you can wait maybe see how Diamond and 3G iPhone stack up.
#edit - and build quality on my XDA (at least) is perfect. Nice solid feeling thing, love the slightly rubberized case.

Thanks very much for your opinion...I think I might just go with the Orbit 2 after all...a VGA screen would be nice, but I'm happy enough to have the standard one...and it's a little smaller than my BLue Angel so that's always a benefit.

Seriously this is an outstanding device. Software is software and any issues can 99% of the time be sorted with it and normally are, especially when you browse around these forums. Also bare in mind that all these devices now use windows mobile so I don't understand why someone would fault the Orbit 2 over another windows mobile device because of the software it comes with.....anyway the hardware itself is exceptional, I've posted a mini review if you look through my post history and there's plenty of in-depth reviews out there.
Losing the keyboard is a good thing in my opinion. A keyboard isn't necessary, its just as easy (if not easier) to use the software input (my personal preference is a T9 style pad that learns words and is very quick to use with just one hand like a normal phone) and obviously you save on weight and bulk.
The Orbit 2 looks great, is extremely responsive and comfortable to use and in my opinion is the best windows mobile device availible at this time.
Quick edit! - regarding the SW, the rom that the O2 Orbit 2 comes with is actually fine anyway, i've never encountered any issues with it - it would be nice to have the threaded SMS that 6.1 has but aside from that its fine and works great. Cheers!

SOunds like you're pretty damn happy with it then
So the 200MHz processor isn't an issue? Still responds well? Thing like TOmtom run well?

The Orbit 2 has a 400MHz CPU, it was the original Orbit that had 200 -it also has twice the amount of memory. TomTom was perfectly useable on the original Orbit but it noticeably runs smoother on the Orbit 2 - The Orbit 2 is a lot better at managing multiple tasks at the same time.
I was in two minds before upgrading becasue I had the original Orbit and wasn't sure if I'd get my money's worth. I was going to send it back if I wasn't happy with it. I'm more than happy with it though as you can tell! its a great device. You've always got that 14 day cooling period with O2 anyway so you may as well give it a go for yourself.

doh...you're right...I was thinking of the original Orbit.
No 14 day cooling off for me..I'm in Australia so the only way to get at a decent price is eBay.
I think I've been convinced to get the Orbit 2...just a pity it doesn't have VGA...and the diamond will probably be a fair amount more than the Orbit 2

Actually a the Diamond will be cheaper then the Polaris/Orbit2... But my oppinion is that the VGA is too much on a 2.8" screen...

The Orbit 2 is a damn good toy... after tuning the cache and graphic settings..speed was even better than before..
also gps works great...a lot of stuff in a small little case...

I am also happy with my orbit 2, copilot in mo is better then tomtom i have both installed.
I like golive's interface and extra settings plus the website for tracking is a good feature.
The Software available is none stop from here and other sources, unlike the iphone i had that you could only load decentish software if you hacked it..
a couple of minor gripes, the screen is a little shiny for sunny day use and the camera could be alot better.
apart from that i am very happy with it, let hops the diamond touch flo 3d becomes available then that will make this device look great.
the hsdpa speed is great when in the right areas, 50k download speed from my laptop...
the gps seems acurate enough, fast on a warm start as well.
its performance could be a little better but overall its very good.
I would install opera mini as i have found this much better then ie and opera mobile for day to day use.
as for the missing keyboard, try touchpal or the diamond keyboards, also make sure you adjust the sensivity of the screen do a search on here, i think the keyboard is great been software as you can load loads of different types and type quicker with the stylus on some over a flip out keyboard.
the flip out keyboard types can be a little thicker as well you cannot replace or remap keys like a software keyboard so there are plus's and minus's to both concepts...
if you type alot then get a bluetooth keyboard, or a laptop.....
i don't think you will b unhappy with your purchase...

Actually imho any HTC device when just introduced will very rarely be upto my expectation and initially i am always dissapointed,for the first few days,its just a matter of customizing(a heart felt thanks to this forum for teaching us how too) to our personal choice and then i just can't seem to live without them.When i took the Cruise i returned it the next day,very dissapointed with the handset,nothing it could do(and in the factory state it could'nt domuch)was enough,I thought that my Kaiser was far better,then after going through the Cruise forum went and picked it up again,customized it and now wonder how did I ever think negatively abbout this handset,I just love it the feel of it in my hand and also the perfomance,ended up keeping both the Kaiser and Cruise without regrets.

HTY vs. HTC??

Hi,
I was looking online for an unlocked HTC T4242 Iolite / Cruise 2009 phone and came across this link for a nearly exact copy
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTY-T4242-Windo...ones?hash=item5633d3c7c9&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14
Check it out yourself...Google HTY Cell phones.
Any thoughts, experiences, etc? Stay away?
Thanks,
m0

well its running winmo 6.1 & tf2d.. I Would say for 240 american that is a pretty good price for what may be carbon copy..

malloy0 said:
Hi,
I was looking online for an unlocked HTC T4242 Iolite / Cruise 2009 phone and came across this link for a nearly exact copy
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTY-T4242-Windo...ones?hash=item5633d3c7c9&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14
Check it out yourself...Google HTY Cell phones.
Any thoughts, experiences, etc? Stay away?
Thanks,
m0
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I have no experience with the imitation, but stay away from any copy
There is no better than the original HTC

orb3000 said:
I have no experience with the imitation, but stay away from any copy
There is no better than the original HTC
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You probably pay a lot of money for a plain brick when you buy this.
I would say stick to HTC. (also saw HTC Diamond clone on internet last week, it was not even running on Windows Mobile).

My 2 cents/opinions. maybe help buyers-beware
cons
+ Internal electronics is different. OE HTC roms r no good for the HTY. (so, who knows where to find rom support specially with 6.5 pop'n up all over the place)
+ came with a Plain Jane WM6.1 English. No TF2d, GPS app, etc.. even though advertised.. Basically you'll have to locate all the apps and troubleshoot to get them to work since the hardware is different.
+ Some optional apps were on the 2g micro sd. but they were in Chinese.
+ Touch Screen/ Digitizer is a little thin and fragile. Seems like its easily creased. Noticeable at an angle in bright light.
+ Strange thing, it comes with what looks like an OE HTC cruise 09 manual. Useless, doesn't apply to the HTY.. why did they bother.. also, came in a generic box.
+ Wifi is weak. 1 bar strenth where my wizard got 3 bars.
+ No Navigation scroll wheel on the HTY like the HTC has. You can spot the difference by the button size. the HTY has a smaller round button than the HTC.
+ GPS fix takes looooooggggg...
+ the hook where you can attach a wrist leash is plastic
+ Basically, don't even consider thinking your getting an HTC Iolite. These are 2 totally different devices even though they look the same.
pros
+ 624Mhz CPU. pretty quick.. snaps and responds promptly navigating through apps
+ came with 2 batteries, headset, case, car and ac power adapters, useless cd and htc manual (those things don't apply to the hty, again why bother and waste materials)
+ Housing is pretty sold. Really not bad quality. (minus the touch screen)..
+ Battery life is good
+ very compact. Doesn't make your pocket bulg
Personally for me, if i knew what i know now i probably would have gotten a like/new used Fuze. The fuze has issues but so does this HTY. It seems more logical to deal with the fuze that has way way way more features and xda dev support at about the same price as that ebay posting. not to mention the awesome vga screen.
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Update: Removed -> "recommend this phone". Learning that there is too much troubleshooting to get it to function they way it should function based on it's specs.

Update..
Internal GPS really sux.. basically useless.. can't get a fix or takes extremely long.. 20+ mins. totally totally impractical..
Horrible screen in sun light. Can't see the screen at all in the car when trying to use the NAVi...
Change'n my mind.. I would not recommend this phone if your intent was to purchase one with internal GPS...
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Update: Found the GPS fix. posted the info here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=525336&page=10
Still, beware if your thinking of purchasing this thing.. your gunna spend your hard earned money on a brand new item only to have to modify it to get it to work.. hope these posts inform people.

Update on the digitizer
The touch screen/ digitizer doesn't crease easily as i mentioned earlier. I took the phone apart and found out that its just poor quality (IMO). maybe a bad batch, i don't know.. the digitizer still functions great as it should. it just has a few depressions that gives it a wavy look on the reflective edges. really only noticeable at an angle in bright light. not too much of a big deal, but thought people should be aware if they were thinking of getting one of these devices

ms9, you're funny, why get a ****ty phone for 240 USD when you can get a used Fuze for that...
Fuze has better EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!

poetryrocksalot said:
ms9, you're funny, why get a ****ty phone for 240 USD when you can get a used Fuze for that...
Fuze has better EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!
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yeah... i know.. didn't do my research.. was in a rush.. didn't even get my hands on a fuze until after i bought the thing.. the fuze is nice.. kicked myself for a min after i held it. whats done is done.. its do'en its job as a phone and gps 4 now..
btw.. i agree this phone is definately not worth 240. i wouldn't get one at that price either.. not going to say how much i found it for.. no need to encourage promote'n it..
hope'n people can learn from what i posted..

Well HTY vs. HTC update...
Like much of the feedback, I did not trust the HTY, so I bought a HTC Touch Cruise 2009 from selectgsm.com and hope, pray that they are reputiable (sp?) and it gets here next week.
Net step...sell my Fuze and my LG Incite to recoup the $450 USD and then wait for cmonex and olipro to work their hard-spl magic, then some great chefs to cook a super fast, stable wm6.5 rom.
Thanks to all and everyone for the advice.
Over and out...
m0

http://www.newlaunches.com/archives/top_10_chinese_rip_offs.php
same deals

malloy0 said:
Well HTY vs. HTC update...
Like much of the feedback, I did not trust the HTY, so I bought a HTC Touch Cruise 2009 from selectgsm.com and hope, pray that they are reputiable (sp?) and it gets here next week.
Net step...sell my Fuze and my LG Incite to recoup the $450 USD and then wait for cmonex and olipro to work their hard-spl magic, then some great chefs to cook a super fast, stable wm6.5 rom.
Thanks to all and everyone for the advice.
Over and out...
m0
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Why are you getting rid of Fuze?

Should I change from hd to tg01?

Hi I have noticed that you can get a tg01 in uk for £150 on orange payg which seems really cheap and was wondering what people thought about it?
So from what I have seen tg01 has better processor and bigger screen but the phone is too big for many people as the screen is big plus it has a thick edge as well.
I supose what I would like to know is can the tg01 do any of the following?
can a new rom be loaded?
can touch flow or xperia panels be put on it?
is the touch screen good quality? is it sensitive enough?
is the battery life any good?
is the gps good?
can android be put on it?
anything else i need to know?
on another not I'm always looking for the coolest devices are there any known coming out which are better than hd2? I like the idea of milestone 2 if its real, has htc got anything coming?

custom rom = not as yet
xperia2 panels = yes
i find touchscreen very responsive best with stylus but finger touch good too
battery life depends on what you are doing mine lasts 2 days for very light use, usual use i would say needs a charge every day and if like me use fpsece alot then you will hate the battery but its comparable to most similar devices and you can always get a bigger mugen battery.
havent used gps
no android as of yet
sound quality in calls is extreemly rubbish and rintone ect very quite and srswow dont work properly, no tv out, stupid headphone connector had to buy bluetooth headphones. camera is worse then iphone
its worth £150 but depending on your budget i would go for a hd2 wish i had been more patient. as for anything new as always there will be new phones later in the year and some good ones when windows mobile 7 comes out.
dont let me put you off as i do like my tg01 and it has potential if it gets cracked for cooked roms and the expected update improves sound quality

Hi thanks for that,
I think it's prob best i just be patient and stick with my hd for now. I very much like the idea of a bigger screen and faster processor but I have become accustomed to constant rom upgrades which I might miss on the tg01.
Still at £150 just seems such a good deal. Can it be unlocked easily?
Also I think i remember seeing tf3d as a pannel for the x1 if i did get the tg01 and put x2 panels on it can tf3d be a panel?

unlocking is the usual £10 code from ebay ect,
people are getting sense2.5 from hd2 working on tg01 which im goning to try later, EDIT yes to tf3d and there are a few tweaks that improve it alot like better keyboards ect.
anyway for £150 with no contract ect i would be happy with it as its cheap enough to get a better phone when winmmo 7 comes out at the end of the year.

Reccomend a Phone thread

Hi folks, you know the drill, my current phone (an HTC Mogul) is getting past it's usefulness and once more I find myself on a hunt to find a phone that has the most of what I do want and the least of what I don't, in other words the best compremise between the device of my dreams and what's actually avaliable.
Further to this I am limited in funds so not only can I not go out and purchase a brand new top of the line model, the device I do end up getting will hopefully last me for a long time (or at least longer then the 1yr I got out of my Mogul).
Perhaps I should start by looking at why my current phone just doesn't do it for me anymore?
1) No wireless - Ever since I flashed it to 6.5 I have had no wifi.
2) No 3.5mm plug - The HTC proprieity adapter hardly works half the time either.
3) OS - 6.5 WiMo flashed is pretty unstable, I regularly have to reset the device because it locks up or just won't work.
4) QVGA - probably the best I can afford, but I do a lot of reading on this and a higher res would be better for my eyes.
5) CDMA - I really need a quadband simcard capable phone.
So what do I want?
1) Wifi, bluetooth, GPS
2) 2mp camera or better
3) 6.5 Wimo native, preferably with duel boot capibility
4) 3.5 or 2.5mm audio output, or HTCusb that actually works!
5) Keyboard if possible (I really like the qwerty thumboard on my Mogul)
6) WVGA or VGA would be nice, but it might be out of my price point.
7) GSM QUADBAND!
Any reccomendations of models would be nice, thankyou

Go for Rhodium!
Definitely the best hardware device out there
If want to spent less money you can try Rapahel or even less (if you find someone who want to sell) Universal

Thanks for the recc, I will check those two out

I agree with ORB you should go for a Rapahel because it has so many roms to flash and it is cheap compared to the latest devices .

DannyFenton said:
I agree with ORB you should go for a
Rapahel because it has so many roms to flash and it is cheap compared to the latest devices .
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Hmm, looking at ebay, the Rhod looks like its about $100 more then the Raph
or $300 for the Touch2 and $210 for the Raph.
At those prices it seems like it would be better just to pay the difference?
Also no one will ship to New Zealand

Yes on that case better go for Rhodium
I have seen ebay sellers who ships to almost any part of the world.
Also have a look on marketplace section, you can find very good deals
Good luck,

UPDATE: I bought myself a HTC Rhodium, very happy with it.
Now, I want to buy my GF a new phone for her birthday. Currenty she is using my ****ty old Blue Angel with WiMo 6.1
She uses the phone everyday (carries it around in her bag), but the only thing she does on it is read. She sometimes sends text messages, but usually not. She hasn't really used any of its other features or installed her own programs or anything (she is a programmer, so she does have the skills to do so).
At the moment I'm tossing up between a HTC Diamond, Diamond 2, Touch HD and another Rhodium. I'm leaning more toward the Diamond1 though. We generally try to avoid spending lots and she's more then happy with the PDA2k so even the diamond is a big upgrade and isn't too expensive.
I use my Rhodium to read alot of comics, but at 480x640 the screen should be highres enough to be an improvement. The other reason I'm leaning toward the Diamond is because of it's small size, and easier for her to carry around.
So, my question: Is there anything wrong with the Diamond that I should consider, and are there any other devices with VGA or better resolution in a similar price range that I should take a look?
Also what is the difference between the Touch Pro and the Diamond (besides the keyboard)?

If you need keyboard go for Raphael, if you don´t need it go for Diamond 2, I buyed one in marketplace for 180US a few months ago.
Or take another Rhodium

Why the recommendations for Rapheal? I am ready to put mine through a wall. The keyboard has gone flaky in the last three months...(delete requires holding down, not just press, P has started to not work, space now triple spaces)
In addition the screen started to separate over the 'x' button about two months back, now I hve that leaky black spot you get when screens break. The control pad at bottom has started to have the plastic cover start to come up.
In the last month the phone has decided to start dropping calls and even losing towers completely. (I have not changed anything on phone in over 6 months) I have rebooted the phone at least 10 times in last three weeks because of screen starting lock up, non-responsive push buttons, and complete lost of tower without attempting to reaquire.
This phone is going tits-up recently and I have had it locked to Edge forever because it will not hold a 3G signal in a very large city.
Not a recommend from me.

Thanks for the reccomendatiom - and the non recccomendation ^_^;

(silly extra text because my message was too short)

Ok, at this stage I am leaning toward the HTC Touch. The touch is fatter, but it looks like it has a lot more memory which has surely got to result in a better user experiance. It's about the same price as a diamond as well - I just have to find someone on here to sell a raphael to me.

I have a moderately worn Tmo Touch Pro 2 I'm selling off on ebay later today. Only doing a 3 day auction starting at $0.99. If interested I'll post a link. Pics are great of the scratches so you can probably grab it for $125-$150.

a link sounds good

Willuknight said:
Ok, at this stage I am leaning toward the HTC Touch. The touch is fatter, but it looks like it has a lot more memory which has surely got to result in a better user experiance. It's about the same price as a diamond as well - I just have to find someone on here to sell a raphael to me.
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Oh how I remember my HTC Touch days. That phone & the Mogul were a nightmare for many of us & we couldn't get rid of it fast enough.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

Willuknight said:
a link sounds good
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200489715435&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT

ScandaLeX said:
Oh how I remember my HTC Touch days. That phone & the Mogul were a nightmare for many of us & we couldn't get rid of it fast enough.
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What where the main issues you had with it?
I've just upgraded from my mogul to the touch2, and the main issue I had with the mogul was the low res and slow processor compared to the touch 2, but overall it was a good phone.

NEED ANDROID PHONE WITH Qwerty keyboard
I'm looking for a new phone to replace my aging G1 but I dont want to give up the real keyboard. The mytouch slide is nice but it's hardware isn't on par with nexus one or htc incredible. The new Samsung Galaxy S Pro with sprint seems promising but not so sure about community support. I love how with my G1 I have so many options, so many great ROMs from Cyanogen and others on XDA. I'm worried that If I go with a samsung I will have better hardware but very few choices when it comes to moded roms. Is there an alternative phone out there with hardware on par with the latest HTC phones that have a slide out keyboard. Any one care to offer thier opinions??

whats your budget?
android or wimo?