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Could the lack of a dedicated windows hardware button be a deal-breaker

Hi.
I notice the Touch-Cruise lacks the Windows button that activates the start menu (like on the HTC Trinity).
Does this mean you have to use the stylus every time you want to open the start menu and go down to programs.
If so that would suck wouldn't it?
Or is there some other way of activating the start menu without the stylus?
Otherwise this device ticks all the boxes for me.
Any advice appreciated.
Thanks.

tech77 said:
Hi.
I notice the Touch-Cruise lacks the Windows button that activates the start menu (like on the HTC Trinity).
Does this mean you have to use the stylus every time you want to open the start menu and go down to programs.
If so that would suck wouldn't it?
Or is there some other way of activating the start menu without the stylus?
Otherwise this device ticks all the boxes for me.
Any advice appreciated.
Thanks.
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You can map any hardware button you like to it. I use the one below the green button.

victoradjei said:
You can map any hardware button you like to it. I use the one below the green button.
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How do you do that.
(Sorry if this sounds like a basic question but I don't actually have the device at the moment. I'm seriously thinking of getting it though )
Also how do you like the device overall?

tech77 said:
How do you do that.
(Sorry if this sounds like a basic question but I don't actually have the device at the moment. I'm seriously thinking of getting it though )
Also how do you like the device overall?
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Start>settings>buttons and change whatevr you want.
If it was not good there would not be so much clamouring for it Perfect untill I find a better one

get o2 orbit 2, it has also the windows picture on the button

victoradjei said:
Start>settings>buttons and change whatevr you want. If it was not good there would not be so much clamouring for it Perfect untill I find a better one
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Cheers.
Strangely enough when you go into settings>buttons on my Trinity there's no option to change the buttons below the screen.
You can only reassign the buttons on the sides of the device.
But with the Touch-Cruise you're positive you can re-assign the buttons BELOW the screen, right?
Thanks.

tech77 said:
Hi.
I notice the Touch-Cruise lacks the Windows button that activates the start menu (like on the HTC Trinity).
Does this mean you have to use the stylus every time you want to open the start menu and go down to programs.
If so that would suck wouldn't it?
Or is there some other way of activating the start menu without the stylus?
Otherwise this device ticks all the boxes for me.
Any advice appreciated.
Thanks.
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You can use your fingers. I don't understand where the problem is.

Raphael hardware keys, remapping?

Has anyone come up with working solution for mapping hw keys?
I found this thread on Diamond, but no help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398280

I am using AEKMap to enable both latin/cyrillic input on my TP's hw keyboard. You may google it and give it a try.

There is no need for additional software, just follow this post and you'll get the answer. Worked for me.

Try AE Button Plus.
B.

I think you did not quite follow me here.
I dont mean to change layout of QWERTY, but hw-keys like "Back" and "Home" at front panel of TP.
This is becaus I find home and back quite useless and would much more prefer to have ALT+TAB (change program) and close program (REALLY close them, not leave running background as back seems to randomly do).

Taajuus said:
I think you did not quite follow me here.
I dont mean to change layout of QWERTY, but hw-keys like "Back" and "Home" at front panel of TP.
This is becaus I find home and back quite useless and would much more prefer to have ALT+TAB (change program) and close program (REALLY close them, not leave running background as back seems to randomly do).
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And that is EXACTLY what i also want to know....
The total lack of hardware-keys on this device is already disturbing enough, but being locked out of the option to remap any of them is truely horrid...
Anyone know of any reg-hacks maybe?

I've got Spb PocketPlus 4 installed btw, and it's got a button mapping function as well...
But when i go into the buttons map, some weird black icons appear with no name attached to it. Can anyone make anything of this? As you can see i've been able to map one thing only: the Spb close-button-contex-menu, which allows me to switch task KW-buttons only....
But this is not enough for me, i need ALT-TAB aswell and off course a VoiceCommand button.
And regrettably the Rapael doesn't have that many HW keys to start with...

I want also to use Home/Back buttons for different purposes,but I didn;t found a solution yet.

Gotten a step closer to what i really need over this weekend:
In the button dialogue (with extra generated buttons by Spb PP+4) there was only one other button that had a name...
So i tried this one and go figure: it seems to be the " <= " (or 'back') button. In the dialogue it's called the OK button. I've got it set to the close contaxt menu now, and mapped Voicecommand to long-pressed answer key...
So far, this setup is to my satisfaction, and after two months of use this phone finaly behaves completely the way i want it to...

Hi, guys.
See my post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2743845#post2743845
Hope this helps!
Cheers.

helped realy much !!! big thx for that nice instructions

You're very welcome, tk_berlin.
You be sure to let me know if anything in there doesn't make sense or you need any help with it.
Cheers from Canada!

ah cool to see a reply that fast ,)
hmm u got any further with finding out how to set the home button and the backwards button ?
Since the other htc user ,) wrote
In the button dialogue (with extra generated buttons by Spb PP+4) there was only one other button that had a name...
So i tried this one and go figure: it seems to be the " <= " (or 'back') button. In the dialogue it's called the OK button. I've got it set to the close contaxt menu now, and mapped Voicecommand to long-pressed answer key...
so it works with SPB PocketPlus ?
there must be a way to get it work wit the other tool

ah cool to see a reply that fast ,)
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Lol. I was on my machine all morning and had XDA open in one of my tabs.
Yes, you can map practically any button in AEBPlus no problem.
hmm u got any further with finding out how to set the home button and the backwards button ?
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AEBP will also *learn* any keys it doesn't have. So you could use the "Add Button" option, press your Home key, and away you go.
The way I have it set up, holding down the phone key will activate voice command (default behavior).
But remember, assigning commands to the Home or OK buttons (that "Back" button is actually an "OK" button) doesn't unmap what they normally do so you will always go home first and then it will perform <x>-function that you assign.
Personally, I don't like to program the Home or OK buttons because I find that they are "trickier" to press. What I mean is, if you tap the OK button near it's center or close to the left, it doesn't register a press. If you tap it sort of with the long part of your thumb (which is more natural when holding the device in one hand), it registers it. I've tried this with two TP's now and the button behaved the same way on both. Due to this, I find it unreliable to map anything to it.
In any case, as I mentioned earlier, the Volume buttons, Phone and End keys will be unmapped once you attach AEBP to them but the others will not.
Oh -- I forgot to mention, you can map the directional pad as well if that is your thing.
so it works with SPB PocketPlus ?
there must be a way to get it work wit the other tool
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It does work, but it sends an OK command first.
I wrote a little utility for hard-coded buttons such as these for another Pocket PC I had (an ASUS P527) called "DoNothing.exe" but we can't apply that work-around here. What I would do is replace the EXEs of apps the hardware keys called with my DoNothing.exe, but in the case of the TP, we definitely don't want to replace START.EXE (which I believe to be the likely EXE (haven't tested this)).
If I find a way to map those buttons reliably, I will let you know, tk_Berlin. So far tho, I've been quite pleased with just using the four buttons I mentioned. The more I use this device and the more I ponder my decision to stay with TFL3D instead of the normal WM interface, the more I realize that I don't need half the add-ons I used to use prior to having TF3D. I am accustomed to very, very, very *heavily* customizing my device, but the setup I have now works great and I really haven't lost nething from my old WM world. In fact, prolly gained a few CPU cycles and memory to boot.
I don't miss the Today Screen at all!!! Now that I think about it, I never really looked at it.
Cya!

Long End Key remap

Hi. Suppose I just want to remap the long end key press button to something other than the HTC dafault. Do I need AEBPlus for that? I assume that would be a overkill for remapping just one button. The HTC interal app only allows to either display the quick list or make 4 other actions. I was wondering if I can change that to something else without using the AEBPlus app. I just wanted to run the comm manager rather than the htc options
Thanks

Don't get your hopes up about AE Button cause it don't work if your using touch gl. Apparently touch fl keeps regrabning the keys so sometimes they work snd sometimes they dont. I gave up. i think ot might work better with the hold button but like i said i got frustrated snd gaveup when thr suthor told mr there was nothing he could do..

craigwillie said:
Don't get your hopes up about AE Button cause it don't work if your using touch gl. Apparently touch fl keeps regrabning the keys so sometimes they work snd sometimes they dont. I gave up. i think ot might work better with the hold button but like i said i got frustrated snd gaveup when thr suthor told mr there was nothing he could do..
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Actually I don't need it working with the TouchFlo, as I don't use TF. I only want to remap the long end press button to the comm manager. Of course it would have been great to also map a long press on the Home button or the Back button but I think I read that's not possible even without TouchFlo ?

what no one answered ? wow i thought that's easy,a metter of registry or link change. quite disappointing.

I am also looking for a way to change the back button to run some other program...

How to assign a shortcut to EndKey, SendKey ....
Not tried myself on TP, but maybe it's useful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356322

Create a shortcut in your windows directory called long_end.lnk
whatever the shortcut points to will run when you long press the end key.
There are a few of these hard press shortcuts
long_end.lnk
long_send.lnk
long_power.lnk
long_ptt.lnk
short_power.lnk
short_ptt.lnk

I can remap all the buttons except the Long End. Somehow the Long End button is mapped to the phone Lock. Where can I disable that and allow for my own?

Start, settings, system tab, long press end key
if you don't see what you want there ... we might have to figure out how to disable the long press htc software

I cooked my own rom and I didn't put in long press end key. I assumed it wouldn't have installed any reg settings for it, guess I'll have to check. Thanks!

For some reason if you don't add HTC Long End to the ROM, it will stick on one setting and can't be changed. Weird, but fixable. If you install HTC End Key (the cab is somewhere on here) it will override the previous setting and then you can either select your preference from within the program or create a custom link. Not sure about the second idea working, since I haven't tried it myself, but I've been able to override HTC End Key when it was installed on previous phones. You could also consider un-installing it after installing it if all else fails.

baub said:
For some reason if you don't add HTC Long End to the ROM, it will stick on one setting and can't be changed. Weird, but fixable. If you install HTC End Key (the cab is somewhere on here) it will override the previous setting and then you can either select your preference from within the program or create a custom link. Not sure about the second idea working, since I haven't tried it myself, but I've been able to override HTC End Key when it was installed on previous phones. You could also consider un-installing it after installing it if all else fails.
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Yeah, I recooked the Long End Key Press in, but there isn't a custom selection part of it so that must be a different version of End Key software. It's ok not too important.

AEB
Just for those who wonder, AEButton can remap everything (single, double, triple, long presses) on all keys except two: Long Green and Long Red.
You either need to disable Long End Key software or find some other way to hard map these.

Using my HTC Touch Pro. I am still unablet to map the Long press End Key to something other than the limited options that the HTC Long Press End Key program settings offer.
I simply wish to map the long press end key to run a different program. I tried the suggestion offered on this post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1783616#post1783616) but it doesn't work. I put a file called Long_End.lnk in the windows directory, soft reset the device and still it doesn't map to that. Only displays the HTC 'quick list'.
I am not running TF3D.
Anyhelp ? To map to any program I choose ?
Thanks

So no buddy managed to map the End button long press to some other program than the options that the HTC's prg in the settings allow ?
I want to remap the End key to open Phone Weaver Profiles which is much more useful than what the HTC Long End Pressapp offers.

nik3r said:
Just for those who wonder, AEButton can remap everything (single, double, triple, long presses) on all keys except two: Long Green and Long Red.
You either need to disable Long End Key software or find some other way to hard map these.
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That's not the full story ....
on ex: HTC HD
there are buttons:
"Green Key", -> mapping possible but without Long Press
"Home Key" -> nothing possible !!!
"Back Key" -> not really mapable (mapping possible, but always send to wanted mapping ~backspace and jump back to Homescreen and then the mapped button will execute - little bit strange ..)
Longpress also doesn't work
"Red Key", -> mapping possible but without Long Press
tried with aebutton also (last version)
some additional ideas ?
cu camel

Proto732 said:
Start, settings, system tab, long press end key
if you don't see what you want there ... we might have to figure out how to disable the long press htc software
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HI!
I'm another one that tried everything to remap the long end key without that HTC app and no solutions.
What we really need is to know how to disable that app from the system.
Anyone help us!

Wake up the phone with every button

Hi all.
I know there's a registry hack to wake up the phone with every button, not only with the ON/OFF button but I'm not able to find the topic. I can't find the right words to search...
Can someone help me? Thank u very much for all u do here. Bye

mylostnick said:
Hi all.
I know there's a registry hack to wake up the phone with every button, not only with the ON/OFF button but I'm not able to find the topic. I can't find the right words to search...
Can someone help me? Thank u very much for all u do here. Bye
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It is just a windows mobile setting:
Start -> Settings -> System -> Key lock -> do not lock keys (or something like that, I have a dutch phone).
Make sure you have a good locking solution, like TouchLockPro, because your phone will awake regularly when the keys are pressed.

Hi ZuinigeRijder.
First of all thank u for ur reply.
Then, unfortunately I can't find these options on my phone (in the latest three different ROMs I've tried these options are no more in the settings, one 6.1 and two 6.5 ROMs).
Some times ago I've found a post with a registry hack to obtain that result.
But now I can't find that post anymore.
Thank u very much

Sorry, I've found it!!!
And here it is for all who need it:
Code:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Keybd\DefaultKeyLock
set it to 0 and all the hardware keys will wake up the phone.
Thank you for all.

Actually here is the easier way. Install this control panel app, to control the key lock. Its made by HTC, and has been included on their devices for a looong time now. But I do believe certain OEM's/Carriers remove this for some unknown reason.

doesen't work

I'm trying to do the opposite...I'm trying to disable all keys wake up...but that registry entry and HTC key lock app doesnt work for my HD2.

RelicXII said:
Actually here is the easier way. Install this control panel app, to control the key lock. Its made by HTC, and has been included on their devices for a looong time now. But I do believe certain OEM's/Carriers remove this for some unknown reason.
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Thank u for this info!
This explains why I had this tool in the original ROM but I haven't found it in the next cooked ROMs I tried!
Bye-

sakana said:
doesen't work
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Did you soft reset after installation?
And I would have no idea why it doesn't work on the HD2??

Confirmed - Key Lock Cab on HD2 Does not Work
Confirmed, loaded the Key Lock cab, reset phone.
Start>Settings>All Settings>System>Key Lock -
elected <Lock all buttons except for power button>
Reset the Phone
Phone can still be powered back on by any hardware button
Would appreciate any assistance.

Hennyb said:
Confirmed, loaded the Key Lock cab, reset phone.
Start>Settings>All Settings>System>Key Lock -
elected <Lock all buttons except for power button>
Reset the Phone
Phone can still be powered back on by any hardware button
Would appreciate any assistance.
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What device are you using? As far as I know this should work on most if not all HTC Winmo devices.

Key Lock does not work with HD2
RelicXII said:
What device are you using? As far as I know this should work on most if not all HTC Winmo devices.
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It is an HD2. Several people have advised that Key Lock does not work with HD2.

[REQ] "Volume Keys as Take Picture Key" in camera application

hi
is there any application or configuration to map the volume keys -one of them or both- as the camera shutter key for taking pictures?
as I can see, the AE buttons program does not do that.
thanks

I totally second that.
What a pity that there is no physical button to take picture.
Everybody knows that touching the screen will induce vibrations and blurry pictures.
If anyone could realize this it would be awesome.

I agree,
It would have to only take pictures when the camera is on tho, dont want to use up a button all the time, there just arent enough of them!

+1 also would like to have something like this

goog idea, count me in on this

+1 it was only a matter of time till this thread would appear

Volume keys CAMERA
Hi, with AEBplus you can easy do this.
Go AEBplusSettings=>Volume Down and set: 1: Volume Down 2: "Anything you wish" Long:"Camera"
OK
Now camera will start with the long press of the Volume Down key
vaskodogamagmail said:
hi
is there any application or configuration to map the volume keys -one of them or both- as the camera shutter key for taking pictures?
as I can see, the AE buttons program does not do that.
thanks
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ilyachelsea said:
Hi, with AEBplus you can easy do this.
Go AEBplusSettings=>Volume Down and set: 1: Volume Down 2: "Anything you wish" Long:"Camera"
OK
Now camera will start with the long press of the Volume Down key
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you missed the issue.. we would like to take pictures with a button, not start the camera itself..

thanks
it is great that some people here liked my idea I am impressed.
so if anyone here can make a mapping program for the camera application to take a picture when one or one of the volume keys are pressed to take a picture would be GREAT. because it is the most lacking option that HD2 has.
Thanks again everyone.

I guess it will be difficult...
But I'm sure someone can develop it. There are many talented people here at xda .

I think Green button will be better because if you to take a photo he is "friendly finger".

G-ThGraf said:
I think Green button will be better because if you to take a photo he is "friendly finger".
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true..... +1

you know, every button that is more finger friendly.
I am not insisting on volume buttons.

lol http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=644318

found
found this:
http://www.scilor.com/leocameraanykey.html
try it

hukpin said:
found this:
http://www.scilor.com/leocameraanykey.html
try it
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Been using this for ages, works perfectly. Make sure you download the latest version from Scilor's website - it let's you press and hold any key to zoom in, then short press any key to take the picture - pure genius!

i tried this but it doesnt work at all for me i am using Energy rom with 2.07.50 radio help please?

AE Button Plus for some reason wont make any of the keys that i have tried to change to take a picture, i bought it in hopes that it would work but i have had no luck, so i just wanted to tell ppl so they dont waste there money, its a nice program and im sure it works just fine but just not for what i need it to do. it could also be that i am on NRG rom and that may be the problem because a while back i was able to use the KB config app to change the vol up key to take a picture and it used to work just perfect, but i think NRGZ28 changed something a while back and it wont work anymore on any of his roms. unless i am doing something wrong, but the same settings that worked before wont work any more. lol that just my 2 cents!!

http://www.scilor.com/leocameraanykey.html - this worked perfectly.. thanx!

Scilor's Leo Cam Any Key app
ignore my poist