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Hi. I'm new to all of this. I want to get either a T-mobile MDA or a Cingular 8125. I want to be able to use Excel and go on the Internet (2 main purposes besides as a phone and text messaging) . I do want to use it for more nifty little things eventually as I learn more and whatnot. You guys just seem to know what your talking about and I'm totally lost. If anyone wants to give me a quick 101 on the terms and software and everything that would be appreciated also. But which phone would you guys recommend and why? Thanks.

all phone pda's with pocketpc software have excel same version i think
and can use internet

But which one would be a better choice?

b0ldfacelies said:
But which one would be a better choice?
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There are only superficial differences and you can always flash any ROM on any HTC Wizard.

1st Gen Touch Diamond and Touch Pro Owners..Petition HTC.

The new Touch Diamond2 and Touch Pro2 were announced today, to include an updated version of the Touch Flo 3D software functionality. It gives the ability to move / remove / rename the Touch Flo Tabs, reorganize your programs on the program tab and even add additional programs once the initial ones are full plus a lot more.
Overall the new Touch Flo 3D is giving you the ability to get to the applications you use the most a lot quicker then what we can do now. The device is no more powerful then our 1st Gen devices as far as storage capacity is concerned and uses the same processors, so it should be non issue for them to roll out an update to our software.
Everyone should be going to http://www.htc.com and petitioning them starting now, requesting that they make the new Touch Flo 3D software available to us 1st Gen owners.
My phone is not even a month old, and to see them fix what is broken about the current gen software and not offer it to us would be flat out wrong. Even Apple offered the new software to their customers for just a nominal fee of $20, which eventually dropped down to $10.
I wish we could get a petition going and send it to them voicing how we feel. While I know people have been making mods to get this function on the current phones, this is a time where we need to make HTC step up and do what is right.
If you agree please keep bumping this, it would act as a petition of sorts. Maybe you could even do a poll on this subject??
I called my own wambulance already so I don't need another one...thanks !! =) lol....honestly though, everyone should feel as strongly about this being addressed by HTC as I do.

Petition? why when someone will port it over...plus from my experience with my kaiser...i dont think they care much to petition.....

Or you can just install this mod from this thread, and have most of that functionality like I do now on my Touch Pro
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470164&highlight=stocks

Will it port over? I would prefer to not mess with the ROM in anyway, this is an area that kind of worries me..can't afford to brick my phone...or is this something that would not have bearing on that? I don't know exactly how all this works, but that functionality would surely be ideal. Does HTC really not care about customer service? I have not dealt with them directly for anything yet.

stevieraveon said:
Or you can just install this mod from this thread, and have most of that functionality like I do now on my Touch Pro
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470164&highlight=stocks
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Is this a cooked ROM install that I would have to do or a .CAB that you just run?....Thanks.

I strongly agree that they should have an upgrade for us, but I don't think they really care, this is how they make money, they put out the newest stuff and don't have upgrades for the old stuff so it urges you to buy the new phone

then why not just charge all of us 1st gen owners $10-$20 for the software and allow us to upgrade to it? They would make a ton of cash off doing that, on top of the sales from the new phone. This is exactly what Apple did when they upgraded to the next gen of their phones, it was smart of them to do it and brilliant from a customer relations standpoint.
I guess I could just return my current phone and get something else temporarily until that comes out, since I bought it online and it is not even 30 days old...but I would rather keep this phone if it is possible and just get the functions of the new Touch Flo 3D.

Don't sweat it, when it gets out someone will port it and make it installable with a cab...no worries. HTC really doesn't care much for the end user, they proved that with the Kaiser drivers.

htc does not give a sh*t and frankly i don't care... at the moment they have, IMHO, the best + tweaks phone for me. once i see a better phone somewhere else i will buy that phone.... i just hope this time they hard coded all of the hardware buttons so i can't remap any of them .... @ the person who made that decision.... and i quote
"go fu*k yourself"
**** Cheney

I thought that Diamond TF3D Configurator did a lot of those things. You can use it to remove unused tabs and to re-order them. You can also use it to re-order the programs in the program tab pretty easily. I'm also pretty sure that there are cabs out there that allow you to add some more shortcuts to the program tab. Personally, I don't really like loading more than 9, because scrolling down is a little tricky (it's easy to launch a program in the first 9 by mistake).

Umm...lol, not sure how your post helps any to answer my question about the software suggestion Stevieraveon made. I was trying to find out if this was a "cooked ROM" or just a set of cab files that I could hard reset in case something does not work right.
This is what he suggested to me so I can get more tabs etc..:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470164&highlight=stocks
I like my phone a lot and in most ways it is a step up from my HTC Mogul...but the lack of dedicated hard keys is taking a lot of getting use to, so some extra tabs would help get to those features faster.
Unfortunately not all of us are as comfortable as others when it comes to understanding how to install or deal with cooked ROM's. If it is all .CAB file installs then that I can deal with, no way can I afford to brick a $300+ phone that I just got on a 2 year contract.
I just wanna make my phone as quick and user friendly as I can without worrying about all this "bricking" I hear can happen if a custom ROM install goes bad on you.
Thanks again all....Bruce.

the only thing thats really new is the landscape tf3d has all the tabs now including home screen music and all that it looks like
that alone is awesome but yes of course it will port over
i believe 6.5 requires a windows key too so that might be an issue

We got slide2answer but nothing else from the changes made on the Touch HD, I'm not going to hold out for hope. And just forget about 6.5.

dont even stress it guys we all know someone will port it and probably make it better...i do hear u on htc at least giving the upgrade for 1st gen users but oh well. such is life in business

htcplussony said:
We got slide2answer but nothing else from the changes made on the Touch HD, I'm not going to hold out for hope. And just forget about 6.5.
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forget about 6.5? if you look in the roms section 6.5 is already on the touch pro

yeah, either way even if they don't not going to sweat it. I keep hearing that the Palm Pre might be released next month, and that device has really got my interest. If Palm does their applications store right to compete against the iPhone (keeping most applications free-$2) then it really has a chance to be a great phone.
They added the ability for it to support Flash today, also does copy/paste and a whole bunch of other features look promising. The keyboard is not as nice as other devices out there, but setting that aside all the previews for it have been really good so far.
So many choices lol.....anyone know if this is a "cooked ROM"?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470164&highlight=stocks
I think this might do what I am looking for, but if I have to mess with the ROM then I'll skip it...not out to brick my phone if something goes bad with the install.
Thanks all for your replies.

why are you so afraid to flash a rom? theres like 3 steps to it and pretty much impossible to brick it now it makes the phone so much better

Petitioning won't do anything but waste time. HTC will not listen.

I have been looking for a clear set of instructions on it that I am comfortable with is all. If you can tell me where to find a good set of instructions I really have been looking to give this a try. It's not something I have ever done before and I keep seeing people say in their posts that it might brick your phone.
I have been using the PHM Registry Edit program, but only for the most basic of stuff. So far nothing has gone wrong there thankfully. I also have the Advanced Configuration Tool version 3.3 with some of the stock settings changed.
Some of the mods out there look great. I just want 1 page that tells me everything as clearly as possible how to set my phone up for flashing to different ROM's and any additional software I might need.
If I have to get the phone serviced for any reason I will also need the ability to restore back to the stock Sprint HTC Touch Pro ROM. (signed?).
Thanks !! ....Bruce.

gameday22 said:
Umm...lol, not sure how your post helps any to answer my question about the software suggestion Stevieraveon made. I was trying to find out if this was a "cooked ROM" or just a set of cab files that I could hard reset in case something does not work right.
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Um, I was just responding to this:
gameday22 said:
The new Touch Diamond2 and Touch Pro2 were announced today, to include an updated version of the Touch Flo 3D software functionality. It gives the ability to move / remove / rename the Touch Flo Tabs, reorganize your programs on the program tab and even add additional programs once the initial ones are full plus a lot more.
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You seemed to want to know how to re-organize your TF3D tabs. I gave you a link to an app that allows you to do this. All you need to do is download and install the cab. Try it out, you might like it.

[Q] Newbie to HTC Legend

Hi all,
I have a friend who has a bricked Legend, and I have said that I will attempt to install a updated ROM for her.....
Problem is, although I have done this a few times with MY LG GT540, I have done nothing with HTC.
Could anyone point me in the right direction for a guide to updating the Legend to the latest ROM, including any downloads that I'd need.
Thanks very much,
Mango

I would start with the sticky at the top of THIS page.
Good luck.

Thanks Dirk (Love the name, by the way!)
But looking through that it's very difficult to get a sense of what I'll need to do, and in what order.....
The LG is pretty easy, as you have a KDZ installer......But on that stickie it seems a bit random!

Right....having now got the Legend in front of me, I need to know what to do!
It seems to be having a software glitch on the previous update.....Cannot get in to see which update it was, and my friend has no idea either.
She had sent it back to V'phone, and also HTC to get them to do something, but they keep fobbing her off.
I said I'd have a look, but it really doesn't seem as straight forward as LG!

Are you ever able to boot into a working OS (doesn't sound like it), or does it crash out before loading the desktop?
What sort of errors or faults are we dealing with here basically?

Basically, it starts up.....
It loads up the OS, but from there, it can take anything from 2-5mins to freeze up.
The notifications bar will not pull down, and then, when it does it sticks.
I've said that she probably needs it to be re-installed.....(Hopefully with a newer version).
Vodaphone and HTC have both been useless for her. I woulda thpought HTC would've just flashed it and be done....but no!
So I thought I'd come searching on here! But the sticky doesn't help me that much! I'm from the LG forum, where everything is set out in !idiot guides"!!
I do work in IT, so I am pretty competent, but haven't touched an HTC before!
Thanks for your replies

Right....Done a factory reset, and when the Legend comes on, it is completely unresponsive.
Plus, the screen image shakes from side to side, in a quite violent manner!
It would appear that I can move the screen without even touching it!
Any help is gratefully received!!

Sounds like a hardware issue then. If you were able to factory reset without any improvement at all i'd say that software problems are pretty much ruled out.
If i were you i would have a good rant at Vodafone until they agree to swap the unit with a working model.

Thanks again, Dirk....
I have emailed her to let her know your thoughts!.
Long, dark tea-time awaits

Always a pleasure to speak with a fellow fan
Good luck with the phone. Vodafone have always caved in when i've kicked up a stink about various faults etc so i hope your friend gets a result.

Apparently, she has already been intouch with both HTC and V'phone....and neither are prepared to do anything about it.....
Still worth a screaming match with them???
On an unrelated point..... Did you see Steven Mangan as Dirk? Was disappointed that the book was so thoroughly mashed, but was still entertaining!

[Q] Pure Software Vs. Latest specs

I'm curious what you guys think. Since I am a Sprint customer and plan on getting a new phone soon, I am debating between the Nexus S and Evo 3D. I know that since the nexus is a google phone, it will receive updates first, but I am concerned about the update life-cycle of the phone since it is single core, whereas the Evo 3D, while it does have Sense, has a dual-core. So it seems like it would have a longer life-cycle (seeing as more and more high-end phones are using dual-core processors now).
I'm mainly concerned about the life-cycle because the only way I can afford either phone is by locking myself into another 2-yr contract, so I want whichever phone I choose to last as long as possible without becoming outdated.

My advice would be just get a phone you know you'll be happy with and learn how to root your phone. If your phone is rooted I guarantee you wont want to use your phone on anything else but a custom ROM. For example,I've got an x10,users that aren't rooted have been on 2.1 since its release and are only going to get 2.3 (after much protest) 3rd or 4th quarter this year,but guess what,2.3 has been out for months from xda developers and its pretty stable for daily use. I've always liked the x10,its got great specs even 9 months after release and I'm happy with the software on it. All that counts is that you're happy with the look and performance of your device.
Sent from my X10i TripNMiUI using XDA App

Thanks so much for your response, I've just started learning about rooting and flashing custom roms and your advise was extremely helpful.
I do have a question on this subject you might be able to answer as well then. My friend has an Incredible which he pretty much flashes roms onto on a daily basis. He said though that he cannot receive texts now unless he sends a text to that person first. Is this true for whenever someone flashes a rom or did he just do something stupid, cause I don't think I will flash roms if people can't contact me unless I text them first, since I receive lots of texts I want to make sure that I don't lose any from flashing roms.
Thanks again for your help. Since I am still using the original touch pro, I'm pretty sure that whatever phone I choose will be an improvement.

aweislow said:
Thanks so much for your response, I've just started learning about rooting and flashing custom roms and your advise was extremely helpful.
I do have a question on this subject you might be able to answer as well then. My friend has an Incredible which he pretty much flashes roms onto on a daily basis. He said though that he cannot receive texts now unless he sends a text to that person first. Is this true for whenever someone flashes a rom or did he just do something stupid, cause I don't think I will flash roms if people can't contact me unless I text them first, since I receive lots of texts I want to make sure that I don't lose any from flashing roms.
Thanks again for your help. Since I am still using the original touch pro, I'm pretty sure that whatever phone I choose will be an improvement.
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That would just be something he messed up with, it would be very unlikely that you would have that problem. If you did it could be fixed I'm sure.
Sent from my MIUI SCH-i500

EVO 3D...wifi hotspot.

First thanks to all those that help me with the suggestions on 'unroot the EVO 3D'.
I know that many don't like MAC, so to clear the air I am a Mac user (one time I was a windows user).
I have post last week or so that my Phone was stolen, and explain the dilemma I had, and the problems that came with, I give the best shot I knew how to put it back to 'factory specs', with the suggestions you all had:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1262457
Well didn't work, so finally I took it to the Sprint store and mention to them the same as the post, the fellow work on the phone and they try to put it back to originally came with *FAIL* so I had to pay $35.00 for a use one. Is not the best, has minor problems with 'freezing' but is better, I had to get a new battery, the other phone will heat up to 110 degrees.
I have another EVO 3D couldn't exchange for a different company (e.g Samsung) I am tether (via USB) at the moment someone suggested not to 'rooter' on account the HTC patch some wholes and is hard it to root. I have upgrade it to ICS, and I am not 'knowledgeable' to note to much differences.
I have try a 'Foxfi' so would be able to tather it with iPad, but 'HotSpot' is in the way, I get this massage: "WiFi mode can not be activated on HTC phones due to an HTC hotspot lock....."
Like I said I use EasyTether at the moment, but would but would like to be able to do it the other way.
1-Can any one (kinder and patience) give any suggestions in how to (if possible) by pass the HotSpot on the EVO 3D?
2-(I read that they give up on the EVO 3D Rooting it) is any one on the XDA Forum has 'Cynogen for the EVO 3D with ICS?
3-Any application that would make this phone wifi hot spot without rooting it?
I may said this, truly thanks for those that spend time with some of us 'old and on top newbies' in replaying to our posts, at my end I am trying to read and google and ask suggestions, I am trying to keep up with so many changes on the world of electronics, for the most part I am doing OK, to fast for my old age.
So please, don't give up on us to quickly some of us like to continue learning (have to be at our own pase) that is the best I am can do, we like to get also the benefit of the changing world.
Well Thanks in advance
olmo47