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[HOWTO] Replace Atrix 2 Touchscreen

I recently destroyed the screen on my A2 and repaired it with ease. Honestly very ease to take apart. I wanted to share my experience and show others how to do so as well.
Hopefully, you will NEVER need this! But if you do, here is the how to!
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DISCLAIMER: I am not responsible if your phone does not work after the repair. However, if you follow these instructions you should be fine.
WHAT YOU WILL NEED:
1. Obviously you will need a replacement screen. I got mine for 30 bucks HERE and it came to my house VERY well packaged and quick. Otherwise if that link winds up going down, LET ME GOOGLE THAT FOR YOU.
2. A Torx 5 driver. You can find one at most electronics stores as this is a VERY tiny size usually only used on electronics. I got mine HERE for cheap! Once again if that link also goes down, I CAN GOOGLE THAT FOR YOU ALSO.
3. A magnet. This is for you to rub your new screwdriver against so it becomes magnetized. Makes it easier to get those pesky tiny screws out without dropping them and losing them forever.
4. A PLASTIC pry tool of some sort. You can be creative with this like I did (you'll see in the later pics) but make sure it's plastic so you don't damage your phone. UPDATE: Find one here, as well as a T5 driver.
5. Two small containers to put the screws in. Why two? There are two different size screws you will be removing and you DON"T WANT TO MIX THEM UP. They are different lengths. Jamming the wrong screw in the wrong hole is a bad idea.
6. A hairdryer or even a butane torch on low heat. Or, if you have none of those a razor blade. For separating the glass from the silver bezel.
7. A roll of 2mm double adhesive tape for adhering the new glass to the body. Also used for getting the proper gap in between the lcd screen and digitizer. Find it HERE.
8. GOOD glass cleaner and a microfiber cloth. I will touch on that later.
THE REPAIR
Once you get in a good lit area pull your battery cover off, (I felt no need to tell you guys how to do this) pull the battery out, the sim card and SD card. You will be left with what you see below:
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Next, you will find NINE screws around the circumference of the phone. At this point, if you haven't done so already, take your T5 driver and rub it like a madman on the magnet for a good 30 seconds. High school chemistry tells us that you have just magnetized the tip of your driver! Remove the screws and place them in one of your two containers. And for Pete's sake not close to the edge of the table either.
Next you need to separate the back of the phone from the motherboard. It is SNAPPED into place. Grab your plastic pry tool, and CAREFULLY start separating the two from each other. You will notice the Motorola conveniently placed "pry points" around the phone making this easier. Don't jam the tool too far in as the phone's motherboard is underneath and you don't want to damage it. Do this part correctly and you should have something looking like this:
Your next step is to CAREFULLY pop off the three connections for the touch screen digitizer, the LCD screen and the Ear piece speaker which I have circled for you in the pic located above. Using your plastic pry tool again, carefully pry straight up on the and they should pop off. See the two pics below for examples (yes my fingernails are dirty. Hush, I'm a VW tech.)
No you can see how I got creative with my pry tool.
Once you get those connections popped off, it's time to take the mother board out. At this point touch something metal in your house to discharge any static electricity you may have inadvertently built up. Probably not necessary, but I always do so when I am tearing down my PC, so why not? The MB is also just clipped into place, so using your Plastic pry tool (or bread tie LOL), CAREFULLY pry up on the MB and place it in a SAFE PLACE. Be careful that it doesn't grab on any of the three connections. Treat the MB like gold! You will then be presented with something like below:
At this point pull up on the ear piece speaker/LED and place it aside (you can see it in the above pic in the middle of the phone). Next, you will find the last set of screws you need to pull. There are eight in total holding the metal backing plate to the LCD screen. Remove them, and place them in the OTHER container, re-magnetizing your driver if you need to before removing. Once the screws are out, you can easily pull the metal plate from the back of the LCD screen. See below:
There are only two things between you and replacing your screen now.
BE VERY CAREFUL WITH THIS NEXT STEP AS YOU ARE ABOUT TO REMOVE THE LCD SCREEN AND YOU DO NOT WANT TO SCRATCH IT!!!!!
The LCD screen is slightly adhered in to place with double-sided tape around the circumference of the phone to separate the screen from the digitizer. Now using your pry tool carefully work around the screen until it comes out. Place it FACE DOWN on something soft so as not to scratch it and keep it clean. See below:
Now the HARD PART. First remove the small plastic piece in the upper right corner of the phone that covers up the glass/digitizer connector (see pic below). Now the glass is adhered STRONGLY to the case of the phone. I have heard of people using a hairdryer to heat up the glue to release it, which is the best idea as you will have a much cleaner surface after you're done. Carefully, and slowly, with NOT TOO MUCH HEAT heat up the edges of the screen to soften the glue and lift it out.
brandogg said:
Use a heat gun and warm up the glass first, then take it out. If you do it right, all of the adhesive will come out with it.
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I have not used the aforementioned method, (which is better and cleaner I would imagine) but not a lot of people have a heatgun or butane heater so I am leaving the following optional method:
Carefully take your razor blade and work your way around the the phone to separate the the glass from the body, carefully pulling the connector through the body of the phone. It wasn't too difficult for me. Be careful not to cut yourself! SAFETY FIRST!!!
You will finally be left with your old nasty screen and the body:
PREPARING TO GLUE ON THE NEW GLASS:
Depending on the method you used to to separate the glass you are going to be left with some old glue remaining. Using your razor blade, or whatever you see fit, remove the old glue COMPLETELY to get a good sealing surface for your new glass. If you used heat you might have even got the old glue clean off with the glass! Now my glass came with plastic on both sides, so at this point remove the side that is going to be glued to the body. Using the double sided tape in the link, run it around the silver bezel for your new glass and set the new glass in place.
brandogg said:
Also a huge is to heat up the adhesive right before you place the digitizer back on. This will give you a MUCH stronger bond and will also help any uneven bumps if you have any.
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Once the screen is set, use your GOOD (alcohol based is best) glass cleaner to clean the underside of the glass and the LCD screen if it got dirty in the process. CLEAN IT WELL!
ANY STREAKS LEFT WILL SHOW BEHIND YOUR GLASS ONCE THE REPAIR IS DONE FORCING YOU TO TAKE IT APART AND CLEAN IT AGAIN!!!!!
like I had to.
Next, you need to make sure that the screen and the digitizer are properly spaced. Unless you get clean lift on the lcd when you originally pried it up. If they're too close you will get a swirly effect as you touch the screen. Touch your computer screen and you'll see what I mean.
brandogg said:
I always do 2 layers directly on top of each other - this works perfectly every time so you don't get the "water effect" from the glass touching the LCD, and make sure you go edge to edge so that dust and lint cannot enter the display afterwards.
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It won't hurt the screen if they touch, it's just friggin' annoying, and will cause you to take it back apart.
At this point, installation is in the reverse of the removal, noting one thing. When going to place the three connectors back in place, just line them up properly and lightly push on them to pop them in place.
CONGRATS!!!! YOU HAVE REPLACED YOUR ATRIX 2 TOUCHSCREEN!
Thanks to BRANDOGG for his professional tips and links! GIVE HIM SOME THANKS LOVE ON HIS POSTS BELOW!
Leave your comments and I will update the OP as necessary!
If this helped you in anyway feel free to hit the thanks button!

Nice tutorial, I will use this if I break my screen.

Like I said, hopefully you'll never have to.
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nice, I will have to find this burried 10 pages deep, when I break mine. or maybe I could continue my streak of NEVER dropping it since I bought it in December. Seriously, never.

Good lord Kras, you might have just jinxed yourself.
And i'm hoping they'll sticky it so you don't have to find it that way lol.
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Very nicely put together. I hope to hell I'll never need it.
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Oh my. This is so absolutely amazing. I cannot thank you enough Fall of Enosis. Great job X 1000 on this!

Nicely put together, and congrats on a stickie! :good:
Hope I never need to refer to this as result of a buzzed walking into/out of a bar with subsequent droppage and "Oh, $#!T... My PHONE!"

Fall of Enosis said:
Good lord Kras, you might have just jinxed yourself.
And i'm hoping they'll sticky it so you don't have to find it that way lol.
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I guess I did. Dropped it today, but it didn't break. The screen is however slightly separated at the top. Do you think I can just put a little dab of super glue in there to get it back down?

Thanks for this guide. I broke mine yesterday. I bought the digitizer from there also today. Hopefully it isant too hard to break down and replace. Also would it be worth it to buy a whole new faceplate instead of taking the old digitizer out of this one?

lkrasner said:
I guess I did. Dropped it today, but it didn't break. The screen is however slightly separated at the top. Do you think I can just put a little dab of super glue in there to get it back down?
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Yeah, I would imagine that would be ok man. I don't see an issue with it but like I said go EASY on the glue. Cause you might get too much in there and it will go over onto the LCD portion and you don't want that.
Zackhery said:
Thanks for this guide. I broke mine yesterday. I bought the digitizer from there also today. Hopefully it isant too hard to break down and replace. Also would it be worth it to buy a whole new faceplate instead of taking the old digitizer out of this one?
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Actually man, if you bought it from the Link I provided, your new screen comes with the digitzer also. So no worries there.

Congrats on your success. Tried this on my ATRIX 1, no success. Pissed me off.

I got mine replaced. They did jew me out my shipping tho. I paid for Priority and they sent with cheapest one.
I would suggest a pair of nice tweasers. To scrape the old glue off. Alot more effective then a razor blade.

Zackhery said:
I got mine replaced. They did jew me out my shipping tho. I paid for Priority and they sent with cheapest one.
I would suggest a pair of nice tweasers. To scrape the old glue off. Alot more effective then a razor blade.
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Aside from that did it work okay for ya?

Fall of Enosis said:
Aside from that did it work okay for ya?
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Yes it works just fine.

Thanks for sharing it. I really appreciate it.

Ok so i also need to replace the screen and lcd . my question is what kind of glue did u use? i was under the impression that it had to be an adhesive glue. thanks for the advise

rlopezcomputers said:
Ok so i also need to replace the screen and lcd . my question is what kind of glue did u use? i was under the impression that it had to be an adhesive glue. thanks for the advise
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I just bought $4 all purpose apoxy from radio shack to glue the digitizer back in and lcd will just sit in it. Lcd is glued in to start with but just but doesn't need to be.
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Use a heat gun and warm up the glass first, then take it out. If you do it right, all of the adhesive will come out with it. DO NOT use glue, that is just plain crazy. Buy a roll of 2mm wide double sided adhesive (that is made specifically for replacing digitizers, etc) and use that instead (costs about $4-5). Replacing the digitizer on an Atrix 2 is a very simple job, just spend the extra couple of bucks to do it the right way.

I never said I did this professionally. this is just how I did it. it has worked for me and for others as well! but thanks for your input! I will update the OP with your tips!
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Build Quality

Hi, I recently got a TF300 and so far I love it (for the most part). I am still on the stock ROM and am thinking of rooting and going custom soon, I just cant be bothered with the backup and restore really.
What I'd like to know is if the build quality on everyone's tab is the same.
I have a blue one, with the keyboard dock and I bought from Comet in the UK.
When I use the pad un-docked, there is a noticeable creakyness to the edges of the bezel. On the right side of the screen, and the bottom - just where the dock alignment arrow is, i feel as if I can push the edges up and down like a sponge. Its almost as if the screws arent tightened enough to hold it together properly. It is not a major issue, but it does really bug me because I paid £400 for this gadget.
I also notice that there is a dip in the keyboard, around the letters JKL.
Please tell me if other people have the same thing or if I'm the only one, because if that is the case i'd feel inclined to return and exchange it.
Many Thanks

mcall_r said:
When I use the pad un-docked, there is a noticeable creakyness to the edges of the bezel. On the right side of the screen, and the bottom - just where the dock alignment arrow is, i feel as if I can push the edges up and down like a sponge.
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Confirming the creakyness on the bottom edge, near the usb port. Not quite like a sponge, but it's noticeable during regular use. Also, if you look really carefully you can see between the black bezel and the silver margin, right under the dock arrow. It doesn't seem worth it to return the tablet over something like this, but it's a little bit disappointing at this price range.
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I can confirm this, mine has had the same creakyness. Only mine had it on the top and left side. It annoyed me alot. What i eventually did to fix it might not be for everyone though. I took of the back-cover and used some household masking-tape in very thin slices around the areas on the edges inside of the back.cover. No more creakyness
But I have also read about some people turning theirs inn and getting a new one without the creaky back-cover.

I was also slightly disappointed that there is some creaky movement on the casing of my TF300T. It almost feels like I could pop the back off at the top right corner.

pukeboy said:
I was also slightly disappointed that there is some creaky movement on the casing of my TF300T. It almost feels like I could pop the back off at the top right corner.
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I don't feel any creakyness. It must be my girlie arms. No offense to girls.

I certainly can feel the creekyness between the back plate and the screen. It turns out, the back plate is EASILY removable and is only held on by a few clips, no screws. You can actually take it off without voiding your warantee , the void sticker is on a sheet of copper beneath the back plate over the cpu, nand chip etc.
I actually made an aluminum plate for mine, at a machine shop I work at.
I think the flimsyness is a result of using plastic for the back plate. I expect some time soon to see some manufacturers start selling decent metal plates for the tablet. Overall I am pleased with the build quality though. If your corners seem especially loose try gently squeezing them against the back plate. They might be slightly popped out.
Dave
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CodeLion said:
I certainly can feel the creekyness between the back plate and the screen. It turns out, the back plate is EASILY removable and is only held on by a few clips, no screws. You can actually take it off without voiding your warantee , the void sticker is on a sheet of copper beneath the back plate over the cpu, nand chip etc.
I actually made an aluminum plate for mine, at a machine shop I work at.
I think the flimsyness is a result of using plastic for the back plate. I expect some time soon to see some manufacturers start selling decent metal plates for the tablet. Overall I am pleased with the build quality though. If your corners seem especially loose try gently squeezing them against the back plate. They might be slightly popped out.
Dave
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Is there any tutorial that shows how to take off the back plate? If so, are there any screws under there that hold on the front of the tablet? It just feels as if a couple of screws might be loose that need tightened up... kinda like what ppl were complaining about on the Nexus 7... and ppl managed to find a way to tighten them up!

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Is there any tutorial that shows how to take off the back plate? If so, are there any screws under there that hold on the front of the tablet? It just feels as if a couple of screws might be loose that need tightened up... kinda like what ppl were complaining about on the Nexus 7... and ppl managed to find a way to tighten them up!
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If you mean screws that hold the back-cover? if so there arent any. See attatched link, thats where i got the idea of taking off the back-cover
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1728820
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All 3 blue models i tested had build quality issues (screen/frame).
The white one i settled for is perfect.
All of the above were C5O... serial

I thought this creakyness was a bit of exaggeration but it is definitely there. I have another cheap tablet and it does not feel like this... also the widescreen format makes me feel the screen is too narrow when reading in portrait mode. Kind of having buyer's remorse.

zerozoneice said:
All 3 blue models i tested had build quality issues (screen/frame).
The white one i settled for is perfect.
All of the above were C5O... serial
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Hmm yeah that is strange... unfortunately the store I bought it from only sells a blue one, and if I were to return it now I would only get a gift card as it's outside the 14 day refund period.
I would want to return it really, I am really happy with the tablet on the whole, its just a little disappointing when you undock it and hold it in your hand, the edges of the screen dont feel solid and sturdy, its kinda like what people have been complaining about with the screen popping issues on the nexus 7.
If I were to open the backplate and tighten up all the screws around the edge would this help any?
btw, mine is C6O serial number

Mine is white, and I have that creakiness. But I don't regret it, this tablet is awesome!
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chriwu said:
I can confirm this, mine has had the same creakyness. Only mine had it on the top and left side. It annoyed me alot. What i eventually did to fix it might not be for everyone though. I took of the back-cover and used some household masking-tape in very thin slices around the areas on the edges inside of the back.cover. No more creakyness
But I have also read about some people turning theirs inn and getting a new one without the creaky back-cover.
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Hi Chriwu,
Can you by any chance take a picture of the places you put the masking tape that will help me fix mine?
I cant be bothered returning it if I am just going to get the same thing again on an exchange.
Off Topic:
Does anyone think that apps made for android tablets will explode now that the Nexus 7 has been so popular?

mcall_r said:
Hi Chriwu,
Can you by any chance take a picture of the places you put the masking tape that will help me fix mine?
I cant be bothered returning it if I am just going to get the same thing again on an exchange.
Off Topic:
Does anyone think that apps made for android tablets will explode now that the Nexus 7 has been so popular?
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Sure, here's a picture of the top of the back-cover. You kinda have to feel around the corners of your device to see where you need to "fill" inn with some masking-tape so it stops moving. Also take note of where the plastic clips that holds it to the screen is, so you dont block them.

chriwu said:
Sure, here's a picture of the top of the back-cover. You kinda have to feel around the corners of your device to see where you need to "fill" inn with some masking-tape so it stops moving. Also take note of where the plastic clips that holds it to the screen is, so you dont block them.
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Cool, cheers for this.
Do you think that sponge tape you get would work? Like the stuff you put round doors to stop drafts?

*duplicate post*

mcall_r said:
Cool, cheers for this.
Do you think that sponge tape you get would work? Like the stuff you put round doors to stop drafts?
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Any tape will do really, I just used masking-tape because it's very thin and very easy to take off if it didn't work or if I used too much. It takes very little tape to make a difference.

chriwu said:
Any tape will do really, I just used masking-tape because it's very thin and very easy to take off if it didn't work or if I used too much. It takes very little tape to make a difference.
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Hey, finally got round to doing this today, and what a difference! No more creaks!
I just used brown parcel tape as thats all I had laying around, and just doubled it up in the areas that were the worst, as its very thin. All in all im very impressed. Maybe Asus should have thought of this before it left the factory! lol
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Poetic Slimline Case w/ Pics [First Impression]

I just got the Poetic Slimline in the mail yesterday and thought I'd post my first impressions
I ordered off of Amazon for ~$10 USD shipped.
http://www.amazon.com/Poetic-Slimli...Y0DO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1368894249&sr=8-1
First off I think this is a VERY attractive case:
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Some features:
Magnetic Wake Sleep
Microfiber lined cover and back
Cut-outs for all buttons, ports, and S-Pen
Cover doubles as a stand
So the case isn't exactly packed with features like a hand strap or an extra pocket for memory cards or a larger pen, no cutout for the speaker on the front for international models but it is very thin, and that's exactly what I wanted.
The outside is a fake leather but it doesn't feel very cheap, we'll see how long it holds up though. One thing that is nice though is the tolerances are very good, and the cover fits very nicely with the snap on case. Another nice thing is that the magnet also holds the cover on the backside so it doesn't flop around with the case open.
I'll try and update later if I encounter any issues but so far I think it is a very attractive and slim case, especially for the price

Thanks for your review. I have the same case for my Int'l 3G+WiFi Note 8.0 and agree. It's a very nice case.
The three negatives for me are:
1. No opening or hole in the cover for the phone earpiece speaker.
2. The main microphone hole that is next to the S-pen silo on the 3G model is just barely covered by the plastic of the case. I took a small jeweler's file and filed it down so it no longer covers the microphone. It's only covered by about 1mm.
3. I'm going to remove the SLEEP/WAKE MAGNET in the cover to prevent a Digitizer Dead Zone on the screen! See the posts in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2249587&page=3
I'll use an app that uses the proximity and/or light sensor to do Wake/Sleep functions.
Otherwise, I really like this case.

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I'll use an app that uses the proximity and/or light sensor to do Wake/Sleep functions.
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I'll be curious to hear what app you end up using for that. There are a few mentioned in the following post, but it sounds like one of them doesn't actually lock the tablet:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41351304&postcount=26

bbfoto said:
Thanks for your review. I have the same case for my Int'l 3G+WiFi Note 8.0 and agree. It's a very nice case.
The three negatives for me are:
1. No opening or hole in the cover for the phone earpiece speaker.
2. The main microphone hole that is next to the S-pen silo on the 3G model is just barely covered by the plastic of the case. I took a small jeweler's file and filed it down so it no longer covers the microphone. It's only covered by about 1mm.
3. I'm going to remove the SLEEP/WAKE MAGNET in the cover to prevent a Digitizer Dead Zone on the screen! See the posts in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2249587&page=3
I'll use an app that uses the proximity and/or light sensor to do Wake/Sleep functions.
Otherwise, I really like this case.
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This device doesn't have a proximity sensor, so you will need to find an app for the light sensor. I haven't found them to work very well, but be sure to share your experience if you find a good one.
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Mr_Armageddon said:
This device doesn't have a proximity sensor, so you will need to find an app for the light sensor. I haven't found them to work very well, but be sure to share your experience if you find a good one.
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Since I have the Int'l 3G/Phone Note 8.0, it does have a proximity sensor.

nice price. might pick this up

bbfoto said:
Thanks for your review. I have the same case for my Int'l 3G+WiFi Note 8.0 and agree. It's a very nice case.
The three negatives for me are:
1. No opening or hole in the cover for the phone earpiece speaker.
2. The main microphone hole that is next to the S-pen silo on the 3G model is just barely covered by the plastic of the case. I took a small jeweler's file and filed it down so it no longer covers the microphone. It's only covered by about 1mm.
3. I'm going to remove the SLEEP/WAKE MAGNET in the cover to prevent a Digitizer Dead Zone on the screen! See the posts in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2249587&page=3
I'll use an app that uses the proximity and/or light sensor to do Wake/Sleep functions.
Otherwise, I really like this case.
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Interesting, the thread you linked only mentioned issues with the note ii but didn't go into detail. Is this permanent damage that occurs over time? Like will there be a problem even after I take off the case? Right now with the case on, I can use the S-Pen at every point on the screen, I checked using sketchbook there might be a 1 mm sliver on the side of the screen where the magnet is, but if that's all there is its not a deal breaker for me. However, if this becomes a permanent and/or larger "dead zone" I might consider another case.
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My lovely artwork showing the dead zone

kthung said:
My lovely artwork showing the dead zone
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I can't speak with any certainty to the permanence question, but it seems like from your very helpful illustration that what you're seeing is the effect of the magnetic field along the middle of the right side, which does illustrate that having too strong of a magnet near the screen while trying to use it is problematic (which makes sense given that Wacom technology involves electromagnetic fields).
Per this post the location of the sensor for the wake/sleep magnet is towards the left. In theory, it should be fine to use a magnet there (assuming it isn't too strong) given that Samsung has build the device with a sensor for that purpose. But I'm just speculating.

I know im drawing away from the topic but assuming that the magnet does cause damage, would it still have the same effect if it were not on the screen? After much searching, I located that the magnet on my Moko shell is actually on the left bevel and doesn't even touch the screen itself..I'm hoping it doesn't effect my s-pen
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JokeZony0u said:
I know im drawing away from the topic...
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That is a good point (regarding straying from the original topic): It seems like there is a lot of good and important discussion happening (and perhaps forthcoming) regarding magnet concerns (between the current thread and some other places linked above). Does it seem worth starting a separate thread (and linking there from here)? Just a thought (not a criticism or anything).

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Another nice thing is that the magnet also holds the cover on the backside so it doesn't flop around with the case
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Does it hold well with the case open? Is there a lot of overlap/awkwardness holding it in your hand when it's open?
I just got the Note 8 hoping to use it both at home and at the office. Previously on my Tab I'd used a non-book TPU case at home (where I typically use my tablet most) and then swapped it out for a book-style case for work/travel. I'm hoping to find a case that might allow the best of both worlds and this one seems the thinnest/closest to that.

forum.xda-developers.com is a one of the more impressive phorums I've seen. Thanks so much for keeping the internet classy for a change. Youve got style, class, bravado. I mean it. Please keep it up because without the internet is definitely lacking in intelligence.

Grogck said:
Does it hold well with the case open? Is there a lot of overlap/awkwardness holding it in your hand when it's open?
I just got the Note 8 hoping to use it both at home and at the office. Previously on my Tab I'd used a non-book TPU case at home (where I typically use my tablet most) and then swapped it out for a book-style case for work/travel. I'm hoping to find a case that might allow the best of both worlds and this one seems the thinnest/closest to that.
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No there isn't much overlap with the cover open. It can wiggle up and down a little, but thats only if I move it intentionally. Generally it stays put

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I'd forgotten about Poetic (have a couple of their cases for my Nexus 4 and iphone 5) and this looks about as nice if not nicer than the stock Samsung case/cover... and at $40 less! I initially bought a no-name "slimline" type case from Amazon (5 or 6 bucks) when I first got my GN8, but it was so crappy my N8 would actually fall out of it.... at the time there wasn't anything else but the generic folio type cases, which I hate. So I caved and got the $50 Sammy case, but now, I'm returning it to Bbuy and getting this Poetic if it comes in black!
Thanks for this review!

bbfoto said:
Thanks for your review. I have the same case for my Int'l 3G+WiFi Note 8.0 and agree. It's a very nice case.
The three negatives for me are:
1. No opening or hole in the cover for the phone earpiece speaker.
2. The main microphone hole that is next to the S-pen silo on the 3G model is just barely covered by the plastic of the case. I took a small jeweler's file and filed it down so it no longer covers the microphone. It's only covered by about 1mm.
3. I'm going to remove the SLEEP/WAKE MAGNET in the cover to prevent a Digitizer Dead Zone on the screen! See the posts in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2249587&page=3
I'll use an app that uses the proximity and/or light sensor to do Wake/Sleep functions.
Otherwise, I really like this case.
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Did you take magnets off? Was it was and neat?
Your post was extremely helpful! Thanks

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Did you take magnets off? Was it was and neat?
Your post was extremely helpful! Thanks
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Regarding the Poetic Slimline Case, Yes, I removed the magnet in the flip cover by using a sharp Xacto knife and cut a ~7mm "+" over the center of the magnet. I used a paper clip to find the exact position of the 5mm round magnet. I made my cut on the inside of the cover flap (microfiber side).
This part of the cover has a thin metal panel the full vertical length of the flap, so you don't have to worry about cutting through the front of the cover if you are careful. You can pry the little magnet off of the metal panel with the point of the Xacto knife. It is secured by a small amount of soft glue, like rubber contact cement.
After the magnet was removed, I lifted the microfiber cloth gently with the curved end of a paper clip and put a small dab of crazy glue on the metal panel in the center of the opening. Then just pressed the microfiber cloth down with my finger for a few seconds until it bonded and dried. I can barely tell that it was ever cut. Just don't use too much glue or it may absorb into the microfiber and create a hard spot that would scratch the screen. For that reason, it may be better to use rubber contact cement or another soft glue.
I did not remove the thin magnetic strip in the edge of the molded case that is next to the IR Blaster. It is far enough away from the screen to not affect it, and this magnet helps to keep the cover flap closed, though it is VERY weak and doesn't hold it very securely.
The folding cover flap also does not stay folded very well when you use it to prop up the tablet in either position. It will easily flop open unless you are very careful. The rubber feet on the edge of the Official Samsung Book Cover Case work well in this regard to keep the base of the tablet from sliding back as you press the touchscreen, at least on hard/smooth surfaces like a desk or table. However, they don't help much on any surface that rubber will not "stick" to.
I would actually rather have a kickstand case like the Case-Mate iPOP! for the i9100 Galaxy S II. It worked at just one angle, but worked in both horizontal (landscape) and vertical (portrait) positions.
And I don't really miss not having the automatic wake on/off function. It would be nice, but until there is more concrete evidence regarding the magnet affecting the digitizer, I'm going to play it safe. I purchased the 3G/phone version so it was quite a bit more of an investment compared to the WiFi only model. For now, I'm just pressing the power button on the side. It takes a very light press to activate. I haven't even bothered to install an app that uses the proximity sensor for this, like Screen Standby # Root.
Hope this helps.

bbfoto said:
Regarding the Poetic Slimline Case, Yes, I removed the magnet in the flip cover by using a sharp Xacto knife and cut a ~7mm "+" over the center of the magnet. I used a paper clip to find the exact position of the 5mm round magnet. I made my cut on the inside of the cover flap (microfiber side).
This part of the cover has a thin metal panel the full vertical length of the flap, so you don't have to worry about cutting through the front of the cover if you are careful. You can pry the little magnet off of the metal panel with the point of the Xacto knife. It is secured by a small amount of soft glue, like rubber contact cement.
After the magnet was removed, I lifted the microfiber cloth gently with the curved end of a paper clip and put a small dab of crazy glue on the metal panel in the center of the opening. Then just pressed the microfiber cloth down with my finger for a few seconds until it bonded and dried. I can barely tell that it was ever cut. Just don't use too much glue or it may absorb into the microfiber and create a hard spot that would scratch the screen. For that reason, it may be better to use rubber contact cement or another soft glue.
I did not remove the thin magnetic strip in the edge of the molded case that is next to the IR Blaster. It is far enough away from the screen to not affect it, and this magnet helps to keep the cover flap closed, though it is VERY weak and doesn't hold it very securely.
The folding cover flap also does not stay folded very well when you use it to prop up the tablet in either position. It will easily flop open unless you are very careful. The rubber feet on the edge of the Official Samsung Book Cover Case work well in this regard to keep the base of the tablet from sliding back as you press the touchscreen, at least on hard/smooth surfaces like a desk or table. However, they don't help much on any surface that rubber will not "stick" to.
I would actually rather have a kickstand case like the Case-Mate iPOP! for the i9100 Galaxy S II. It worked at just one angle, but worked in both horizontal (landscape) and vertical (portrait) positions.
And I don't really miss not having the automatic wake on/off function. It would be nice, but until there is more concrete evidence regarding the magnet affecting the digitizer, I'm going to play it safe. I purchased the 3G/phone version so it was quite a bit more of an investment compared to the WiFi only model. For now, I'm just pressing the power button on the side. It takes a very light press to activate. I haven't even bothered to install an app that uses the proximity sensor for this, like Screen Standby # Root.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks again for a very helpful post. It sounds a bit daunting but I do need a very slim protection and just something to cover the screen when not being used... Wish all these manufacturers changed the magnets to just something else.
Thanks again
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k000 said:
Thanks again for a very helpful post. It sounds a bit daunting but I do need a very slim protection and just something to cover the screen when not being used... Wish all these manufacturers changed the magnets to just something else.
Thanks again
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No problem. So far the Official Samsung Book Cover Case is the slimmest and lightest of the cases that I've tried, besides a simple TPU case with no screen cover. Also, since it is the Official OEM Samsung case, they *should* provide warranty service for the Note 8.0 if the magnet does cause any problems with the screen.

k000 said:
Thanks again for a very helpful post. It sounds a bit daunting but I do need a very slim protection and just something to cover the screen when not being used... Wish all these manufacturers changed the magnets to just something else.
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I recommend you consider the STM Cape. It's really not bad at all in terms of extra bulk and it provides some nice protection (and there's no magnets!).

So I took it apart... Here's how it went.

So a bought my tablet, without the dock. Being a modder/hacker/tweaker, I knew I had to root and learn the flash process specific to my device ASAP.
Horrified to find that I would lose my warranty, and that I would be on my own from that moment when I would have unlocked it an beyond.
So I hesitated... For a week... and unlocked, rooted, and flashed a couple ROMs. All is well.
Fast forward 4 months...
I started getting issues with the touch screen on my device. I was heartbroken. I knew that nobody would fix it, despite it being a hardware defect of some kind.
The issue I was having was the "Ghost Touches" which would swipe up and down rapidly and randomly on the left half of the screen.
It would happen seemingly at random, and progressively became so bad that I couldn't use my TF700 any longer.
Shelving it for a few weeks, I finally became inspired and motivated to try to fix it myself, or at least discover wtf was wrong with it.
I found that pressing on the bottom of the tablet (the sections that surround the screen itself) would actually make the problem go away, but also make half of my screen unresponsive until I screen locked/unlocked it.
That made me feel that it was software related seeing that a simple lock/unlock via the top left button would make it stop for a few seconds, but this wasn't the case despite this glaring fact.
So I knew I had to open it, and I had no resources, couldn't find any videos, no information on opening this thing was available, at least at the time.
The steps I took were:
1) Turning off the device of course.
2) Flipped it over and with a flashlight looked down into the two slots for mounting it on the dock.
2a) I peeled away the squishy stickery thingy from each slot.
2b) There are little circles, one in each, that using something sturdy, you must slide to the tablet's left. (I used a nail...)
3) Using some kind of plastic yet sturdy wedge, you must unsnap all of the clasps under the screen to free it.
3a) I used a guitar pick, starting from one of the slots on the bottom, I ran the pick around the edges of the screen after carefully forcing it between the aluminium case and the glass.
3b) With somewhat violent prying motions I was able to free all of the snaps. (You need not unsnap the top side, only the bottom, left, and right sides. If I recall correctly)
4) There's 2 ribbons, they're sneaky, one is copper colored, the other is white. The white one is the scary one.
I turned on my tablet at this point, everything worked fine, I was VERY thankful at that point.
Now I looked around on the inside of the device and noticed that the point where the copper ribbon meets the digitizer/lcd screen was dented a bit, and when I ran my finger across it, the phantom touch problem went absolutely crazy. Bingo.
I found the pressing the ribbon flat against the screen, and firmly holding it in place fixed the problem.
So with a piece of tape I found next to me, I carefully rolled the tape over the dented area of the ribbon, and firmly secured the ribbon to the back of the screen preventing it from moving at all.
Upon reassembling my device, all has worked well, though when I shake the tablet, or press on certain points (takes a fair bit of pressure, nothing you'd ever do intentionally) the "Ghost Touch" comes back, but is easily remedied by a quick lock/unlock. This happens only once or twice a week at best, and I use this tablet HEAVILY.
Sorry for the messy post, and the lack of pictures, I didn't take any, and am not doing this again until I have to.
I really hope anyone who read this can gain from it.
Regards,
~HNx

That is some good info there.
Thanks for taking the time to put that together. I'm sure this will be very useful/helpful to those with similar/same symptoms.
Good job on doing it on your own like that. :thumbup:
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Wow thank you for the post very very much.
I have had the ghost touch problem ever since the start, but it only came about with the dock connected. Through trial and error i figured that the dock is pressing on the bottom of the screen when you open/close it and causes persistent ghost touch. Simple on/off screen would fix it until i adjust the dock angle again. Never had it without dock connected.
Mine is also unlocked so no warranty. Although i am planning to rma the dock as its started to make clicking noises when open/closes.
Will definitely do your fix soon. How long would you say the whole process took you the first time?
Any idea what is causing the ghosting after the fix? My thought is that it was the gorilla glass bending that was creating some interference inside of it, hope i'm wrong.
Also, since we are on the fixing it from the inside page, the clicking noises (i get slight ones if i press/squeeze by audio jack), could they be fixed with some filing. ?
And the big one, could we solder on / replace the inner sdcard chip? perhaps hack a flash/ssd in there if possible?

There are pictures of the TF700's internal components on the iFixIt web site.
I don't think you can replace a BGA chip without damaging the board.

Took me a while to get to it but i opened her up today.
Firstly i recently received my dock back from RMA because the left top corner kept opening up when i tilt the tablet and i had to press on dock to click it back together. RMA people sent it back saying "works as intended, no problems found" with an added touch of removing right side rubber protector (left and bottom still there). Thank you for that..
So i decided to take matter in my own hands and lifted the top left rubber foothold of the dock only to find the warranty "void" screw just fall out... apparently it was never screwed in. OK easy fix, touch of screwdriver and dock is now better than new. Nice quality control there ASUS.
So now excited with first fix, i got to the tablet.
The ghost touch has been plaguing me with the dock attached every time.
I had tf700 unlocked to get the extra performance due to slow flash so no warranty.
Used 2 guitar picks, managed to get the screen off no problems. Tested if it still works, fine there too.
As noted by OP, the orange ribbon causes ghost touches as you press on it.
The white ribbon was in the way so I unplugged it from the screen.
This is the trouble causing area:
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It was obviously insecurely connected to the touch screen. I tried to stuff some tinfoil to the edges to hold in better, however, upon testing my solution, had a fatal (to the screen) accident.
The white ribbon killed lcd power and I couldnt tell if device was on (which it was). Upon attempting to connect the ribbon back, some contacts touch other contacts on the connector, small electrical flash, and lcd screen is dead... :crying:
tablet still works with dock and hdmi out:
Well since screen was broken already i decided to remove it from the touch glass to further investigate the ghost touch.
This is the problem, the orange ribbon was just glued to the touch screen (pressed between 2 screens) and has no secure connection hold. perhaps the glue unglued or air bubbles get in the way or the 2 screens not hold it tightly enough. It is obviously a design fault.
Whoever decided to use this method and then use same badly secured connection area to apply force to keyboard dock to open/close the device, did poor job...
Sure it is my fault i ruined the screen but i cant help but to feel cheated from ASUS.
I loved the idea of transformer tablet and was a very loyal ASUS fan. Bought it first month it came out, used for a year already.
They advertized a premium top of the line product, use a cheap memory solution which makes customers unlock and
void warranty. And when design failures arise, well, you are on your own.
Every TF700 tablet has this "ghost touch" problem, by design. Some may be better than others. It is just a failed product execution.
Not sure what i will do with the tablet now, have mixed feelings about it.
But as a long time ASUS customer / fan, can no longer recommend their products. Their new "direction" of passing bad designs as premium products, just not what I expected.
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upon further review, the lcd connection wire had some pins burned out from the short, so hopefully lcd screen is alive.
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WOW they sell from china for 45 dollars!! for a tiny piece of wire like that...
anyone with a broken/replacement lcd which has a working wire be willing to salvage/sell theirs?

Just as an update, I've yet to need to take my TF700 apart again. The "Ghost Touch" problem hasactually gone away entirely even with
pressure applied to the effected areas.
Further I've tracked the problem down to the tablet getting hot, very hot. As dankens points out, the glue is all that holds the ribbon in place. It's my suspicion that the glue becomes loose. The ribbon most likely shifts a bit at this point, and the problem arises.
Be careful tf700 owners, once it starts, it doesn't just go away.
dankens said:
upon further review, the lcd connection wire had some pins burned out from the short, so hopefully lcd screen is alive.
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WOW they sell from china for 45 dollars!! for a tiny piece of wire like that...
anyone with a broken/replacement lcd which has a working wire be willing to salvage/sell theirs?
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First I'd like to apologize if my post played any role in the eventual damaging of your tablet.
I hate to see such an expensive device broken.
You said it was just some burnt out pins that are problem. I'm pretty sure that I could repair it if you havn't yet bought a new screen.
If you're interested, you can drop me an email -- [email protected]

Well, i went out and got the parts from china/ebay, i think they ship them on wales from china because it took forever!
Started off with the damn white ribbon which cost me $41 for a 4 inch piece of wire!!
LCD was still dead, so i figured it got fried as well. new LCD (no digitizer) cost another $88. After assembling (now i make sure the battery is unplugged first thing, and connected last) i could see the lcd lamp turn on but screen was black.
Next to go was the mobo (i think GPU fried as well), they dont really sell those much, cheapest one was $80 (refurbished).
connected all and viola, back to normal. cost of parts: 209, worth it? not sure.
Definitely a learning experience, damn parts cost more than the tablet itself.
Looking forward to Dell Venue 11 pro (i5 version).

dankens said:
Well, i went out and got the parts from china/ebay, i think they ship them on wales from china because it took forever!
Started off with the damn white ribbon which cost me $41 for a 4 inch piece of wire!!
LCD was still dead, so i figured it got fried as well. new LCD (no digitizer) cost another $88. After assembling (now i make sure the battery is unplugged first thing, and connected last) i could see the lcd lamp turn on but screen was black.
Next to go was the mobo (i think GPU fried as well), they dont really sell those much, cheapest one was $80 (refurbished).
connected all and viola, back to normal. cost of parts: 209, worth it? not sure.
Definitely a learning experience, damn parts cost more than the tablet itself.
Looking forward to Dell Venue 11 pro (i5 version).
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For those of you who will attempt to fix the same problem reported in the OP, my 2 cents:
1. After you successfully open the tab, but BEFORE doing anything, turn off the switch in the area circled red in the attached thumbs. This will cut off all electrical current to the components and prevent accidental shorts. It's called "service switch" for that reason;
2. The information given earlier about how the ribbon was bonded to the glass was incorrect. So I deleted that part. I examined under a microscope and it appeared a chemical strip of some kind was applied to the glass for bonding. Apparently, it worked in my case since I put a piece of kapton tape where the ribbon came off the glass, More likely, it was a part of the ribbon that had no function in the operation of the touchscreen. Thus, there ain't no way one can re-bond it once the ribbon's ripped off the glass, undamaged though it might be.

It looks like I'm having the same issue, but I'm confused about where to put the tape. Should I be removing the digitizer for this? Does the tape go RIGHT WHERE the ribbon connects to the glass? Or do I simply fold the ribbon over top of the computer chips on the back of the digitizer and do it there and tape it there?

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It looks like I'm having the same issue, but I'm confused about where to put the tape. Should I be removing the digitizer for this? Does the tape go RIGHT WHERE the ribbon connects to the glass? Or do I simply fold the ribbon over top of the computer chips on the back of the digitizer and do it there and tape it there?
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I hope someone can answer this. I can't figure out where to put the tape from all these posts either. I am about to embark on this journey. I have never disassembled a tablet or smartphone before. I am not that scared because I haven't really used this tablet due to all the problems I have had with it and have moved on the the Nexus 7. I would like to have it back in service though since now it is unusable due to the ghost touches.
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This might be the info I was looking for from a post above. Thanks.
"So with a piece of tape I found next to me, I carefully rolled the tape over the dented area of the ribbon, and firmly secured the ribbon to the back of the screen preventing it from moving at all."

echardcore said:
I hope someone can answer this. I can't figure out where to put the tape from all these posts either. I am about to embark on this journey. I have never disassembled a tablet or smartphone before. I am not that scared because I haven't really used this tablet due to all the problems I have had with it and have moved on the the Nexus 7. I would like to have it back in service though since now it is unusable due to the ghost touches.
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This might be the info I was looking for from a post above. Thanks.
"So with a piece of tape I found next to me, I carefully rolled the tape over the dented area of the ribbon, and firmly secured the ribbon to the back of the screen preventing it from moving at all."
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I successfully opened it up and taped the white and gold wires down but the problem didnt go away. I am able to reproduce it more now though. I didnt tape the gold wire to the edge of the screen because when I pressed on that with the unit on it didn't cause the issue. I was able to make it happen while opened by touching the gold wire near where the problem spot seems to be but not on it.
Wondering if I build up a protective bump of material like tape inside so the case cant be compressed to cause the issue if that will help. I refuse to send it anywhere or purchase parts. I've spent too much time and effort on this thing. Really sucks to have a tablet that I cant use. I guess I could sell it on ebay for parts.

I'm going to keep bumping this as I discover more.
So I took it apart again trying to rig it up to work.
I found that the gold cable doesn't like being bent the way it is bent from the factory. If you straighten it out and fiddle with it, the ghost touches go away. I have been doing all my testing with the tablet powered on making sure not to disconnect anything. This way I can really get a feel for what is causing the ghost touches. If you intend on doing this look for the service switch and shut it off. Its hard to find even though its right in the middle of everything.
Cable with "33" written on it is the issue. I cut away some of the black plastic they used to keep things neat.
Pulling away the problem cable for your viewing pleasure
Tried to add some foam padding which helped with the case open.
Too much padding to close the case. Might try again with less padding.

Review of the Roocase Glacier Tough Case for the Galaxy Tab S 10.5

I received this case as part of their evaluation program. Here's what I think of it.
Packaging: I liked the packaging. You could see the case well and the back of it had the usage instructions so I would be able to see what I was getting. I liked that it was easy to open (not a clam shell) and resulted in a minimum amount of trash.
Initial impression: I like the color. The texture of the case felt nice and it looks and feels sturdy.
Installation: Installation was simple. It did not require excessive force to snap on like some cases. It fits the tablet well with all the cut outs lined up and well sized. I noticed there is no cut out for the SD card slot. It does not bother me since I never remove my SD, but it might bother someone who does.
Protection: From the look of it I would say it provides good protection. I like that the sides are protected unlike the Samsung cover I was using. I do have a damaged corner due to a drop while using the Samsung cover. I would be confident this cover would have prevented that. The only thing that concerns me is that the front cover does not hold closed very well. If you hold the tablet with the front cover facing down it very easily comes open. I would be worried it would pop open on a fall and leave the screen unprotected.
Usage: The open positions are easy to use and the tablet stays securely propped. My only question is why have position 2 and 3 hold the tablet at identical angles? (position numbers are the order they are listed on the back cover) I would like it if one of the positions held it at more of a 45 degree angle. The Samsung case has a position like that and it is very convenient for usage on the lap.
Removal: This case is very hard to remove. In fact I popped out the glass of the tabled from the frame a few times while I was trying to get this case off. I finally got it off by starting in the corner near the headphone jack port.
Other: The cover leaves a somewhat distracting hexagon pattern on the screen, but it is easily wiped off. The back cover is a bit slick. If set on a slanted surface the tablet slides off. I have to remember to put it face down. I am also seeing finger/hand prints easily on the back.
Overall this is a very nice case with just a few areas that could be improved. For the price it is a great choice.
Here's a link to it on Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/roocase-Samsung-Galaxy-10-5-Case/dp/B00L2N5IQK/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1435684467&sr=8-7&keywords=roocase+origami+tab+s+10.5

Nice review. I think mine is also on the way, so I'll post up some pictures as well once it arrives.

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I received this case as part of their evaluation program. Here's what I think of it.
Packaging: I liked the packaging. You could see the case well and the back of it had the usage instructions so I would be able to see what I was getting. I liked that it was easy to open (not a clam shell) and resulted in a minimum amount of trash.
Initial impression: I like the color. The texture of the case felt nice and it looks and feels sturdy.
Installation: Installation was simple. It did not require excessive force to snap on like some cases. It fits the tablet well with all the cut outs lined up and well sized. I noticed there is no cut out for the SD card slot. It does not bother me since I never remove my SD, but it might bother someone who does.
Protection: From the look of it I would say it provides good protection. I like that the sides are protected unlike the Samsung cover I was using. I do have a damaged corner due to a drop while using the Samsung cover. I would be confident this cover would have prevented that. The only thing that concerns me is that the front cover does not hold closed very well. If you hold the tablet with the front cover facing down it very easily comes open. I would be worried it would pop open on a fall and leave the screen unprotected.
Usage: The open positions are easy to use and the tablet stays securely propped. My only question is why have position 2 and 3 hold the tablet at identical angles? (position numbers are the order they are listed on the back cover) I would like it if one of the positions held it at more of a 45 degree angle. The Samsung case has a position like that and it is very convenient for usage on the lap.
Removal: This case is very hard to remove. In fact I popped out the glass of the tabled from the frame a few times while I was trying to get this case off. I finally got it off by starting in the corner near the headphone jack port.
Other: The cover leaves a somewhat distracting hexagon pattern on the screen, but it is easily wiped off. The back cover is a bit slick. If set on a slanted surface the tablet slides off. I have to remember to put it face down. I am also seeing finger/hand prints easily on the back.
Overall this is a very nice case with just a few areas that could be improved. For the price it is a great choice.
Here's a link to it on Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/roocase-Samsung-Galaxy-10-5-Case/dp/B00L2N5IQK/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1435684467&sr=8-7&keywords=roocase+origami+tab+s+10.5
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Hi nicholb,
Thank you for your review and feedback. After reading through, we noticed you mentioned that there are finger/hand prints that are showing on the back of the case. Were these easily removed, or a bit more troublesome to get off?
Please let us know, so we can look into this.

The fingerprints on the back do easily wipe off with a cloth.

I've got one of these Roocases last year and yes they're very rugged however the trade off is the weight of the case which is 288 grams.
I've been using my tab in doors at home but I'm now going to be more mobile so I'm going to have to look at another case that's lighter yeah I know it'll be more at risk but it's just too heavy when holding for long periods.
I might try this one as it's 200g lighter:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/SAMAR®-Supr...r=8-7&keywords=samsung+galaxy+tab+s+10.5+case

So here is my review after using this product for a couple weeks.
First Impression
The case came packaged nicely with an easy to open plastic cover. Being able to see the majority of the case itself rather than just a box is a plus in my eyes.
Design
I love the design of this case and the origami concept for the top cover. The only issue I really have is the top cover seems a bit too light and flexible. The OEM case has a consistently sturdy feeling across all of it's pieces. This cover also overhangs the edges just a bit when closed.
Protection
I have dropped my tablet both intentionally and unintentionally with this case on and it survived without even a scratch. The body of the case is very sturdy and solid with a nice feel to it. The OEM case sucked at being protective and often times the tablet would fly out of it. The mounting tabs for the OEM solution seem to get looser each time I remove and reattach the case, so that left a lot to be desired. This case however is an extremely solid fit. The OP stated he had an issue with it being tough to remove (to the point of almost damaging the tablet), but I didn't have that issue. It was in there pretty tight but removal wasn't difficult.
Usage
I've been using this case for at least 2 weeks so far and it has not disappointed me as yet. The viewing angles work for my uses and the sturdy nature of the case instilled confidence when using it in the garage.
Final Thoughts
I love the color combination I received and the feel/ texture of this case. The top could be a little stiffer so it wouldn't feel like it's just flopping around, but that's just my nitpicking. If I had to pay for this case I definitely would, as it serves my purposes very well.
Here is the link to the case I received. Photos will be uploaded later.
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I can see why the cover seems flimsy, so it can fold to hold the tablet in the different positions. Maybe in a update the company can make the cover a little thicker. To the OP & munnarg, you did not say whether or not if the cover had a magnet to turn off the screen when closed. I have been looking at this case for a replacement for my Samsung half(?) cover that came with the tablet.

Yeah it does turn the screen off when the lid gets about halfway closed.
roger25118 said:
I can see why the cover seems flimsy, so it can fold to hold the tablet in the different positions. Maybe in a update the company can make the cover a little thicker. To the OP & munnarg, you did not say whether or not if the cover had a magnet to turn off the screen when closed. I have been looking at this case for a replacement for my Samsung half(?) cover that came with the tablet.
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Thanks for the reviews everyone, we really appreciate it!
-Bev

Just a follow up now that I have been using the case a month. I have decided not to go back to the Samsung cover for two main reasons. First this case provides much better protection. I had one drop from waist high with the Samsung case and cracked the corner of the tablet's frame. This case encloses the edges and provides better protection. Second I like the looks and color of this case better.
My only minor quibbles with the case are that I wish it had a ~45 degree angle. Where I use the tablet that angle works well for me. I also would like for the back to be a little less slick. I have to be careful to set the tablet face down on slanted surfaces or it slides off. You would not think that would come up often, but two of the places I routinely set my tablet happen to be slanted.
Overall a good case and I'll probably use it for the life of the tablet.

Received mine few days ago, love it but it's so damn hard to remove, popped the glass off the frame like nicholb explained, learnt the hard way to remove it. It also blocks the sdcard port, I have no idea why so the first thing I did after removing it was snipped it off with a pair of pliers and then smooth it down with a knife, the port now available, still a bit tough to access the card inside cuz the case edge is thick, but it is better than before =]

I had my first minor drop last night with the case on. I had the tablet on the arm of the couch open with the case in position 3 (the one where the cover is pinched together). When I sat down I bumped the tablet and it fell to the ground landing screen down with the cover open. After steeling myself to look at it fearing the worst, I found no damage. The case did its job and protected the tablet.