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is there any way to install application with apk extension to windows mobile especially wm6.5

No. What a silly question.

grainysand said:
No. What a silly question.
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a simple no its not possible would have been fine.
he was asking a simple question that he was un-sure about.
maybe silly question to you, but he wasnt aware so it was a normal question for him to ask.

That is not a silly question; asking if your phone works better with makeup on, is a silly question ; but not this one. That is the type of questions people need to ask so they do not mess up thier phone (though this would not screw up a phone). Everyone was a n00b once. Props for asking!
Anyways, as for your question, the simple answer is no.
Basically windows moible uses .cab files, they are written in windows code (c++ usually) and are packed and installed in a way that that is used by windows. An .apk file is simular that it is a package of files, however it is writen in linux code and stored in a competly different way. It is like trying to install a Mac app on a computer with windows; just can't be done. And since the coding and how the files work are so different, it is very difficult to port a cab to android and an apk to windows mobile.

grainysand said:
No. What a silly question.
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What a silly answer

Well, someone could port the dalvik-vm to win and then maybe handle the unpacking of apks and enhancing the win dalvik...like a VMWare Player for Windows Mobile (so it is possible to run Mac on a Win PC )...

If you're bent on having a certain Android app working on your WM phone, check to see if it's supported by XDAndroid - the project for porting Android to Windows devices. By running Android on your phone you can install and use just about any application from the Android Market. Right now, the Topaz, Rhodium, Raphael and Diamond have the most support.

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difference between smartphone and PPC software tat i don understand..

Can a PPC software use in a Window mobile based smartphones?
are they functioning like in the PPC?
Can the *.cab file used for PPC use in smartphones?
I was just about to answer you, but then I go to the last line of your message.
We do not deal with WAREZ and craks here.
and
sthg about software tat i don understand..
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is something that I don't understand
ok, prehaps i shouldn't ask it tat way... actually the main thg is i just wanna know if there is any possiblity tat we can use PPC softwares on Window mobile based smartphone?
That would depend on the software and the device.
Some will run, some you won't be able to use without touch screen and some will need extra components.
you can try...it's all winCE...
I know some of my old smartphone software works o.k. on my PPC, but PPC is like smartphone's bigger brother: with extras (touchscreen, others, etc.)
The screen is broke on my smartphone now but I seem to remember installing some stuff meant for PPC on there back in the day with varying results. I think some did work, but not a lot worked nicely.
AFAIK you need to port, change a few things (like have no touchscreen input) for a reliable result.
it being winCE is not always enough
binary files are spc for the cpu they were compiled for
but if they have the same cpu and the same libs
it would work
another matter is .net and java they are not written for a spc cpu but for the framework
http://mobile-enthusiast.blogspot.com/2007/01/how-to-run-pocket-pc-applications-on.html
Rudegar said:
http://mobile-enthusiast.blogspot.com/2007/01/how-to-run-pocket-pc-applications-on.html
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Excellent article. Note that, however, it states all PPC apps run on a Smartphone w/ SPHelper ("Does this mean that they will run the same software? / Yes and no. All Windows Mobile devices (Smartphone, PPC, PPC phone edition, etc) can run the same actual executable code (.exe files) as long as it has been written for a Windows Mobile device. However if you actually try to install PPC software on a Smartphone (or vice versa) using Activesync, you might get an error message stating the device is incorrect and it will refuse to do anything."). This is, however, not really the case. See my related articles and hacking reports - in the articles I've posted in the last 2 weeks, I've posted a LOT of info on interoperability issues.
As a rule of thumb, about 10% of native (NON-Compact Framework-based) PPC programs can be hacked to work on a QVGA Smartphone. On a 176*220 one, even fewer.
bjy8138 said:
Can a PPC software use in a Window mobile based smartphones?
are they functioning like in the PPC?
Can the *.cab file used for PPC use in smartphones?
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Make sure you don't miss ANY of my articles. They are ALL in this very "General" forum.
I've published a LOT of information on these subjects, listing all the compatible software and how they can be hacked.
there should be a special forum for them since there are soo many they cant be sticky
some might get pushed far back
Rudegar said:
there should be a special forum for them since there are soo many they cant be sticky
some might get pushed far back
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Yup, that's a problem.
I'll some time collect the links and put them all in the Wiki so that they are easy to find.
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I'll some time collect the links and put them all in the Wiki so that they are easy to find.
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something like that'd be good, I think we all appreciate informative articles and in-depth tests ...thanks!

Just wondering about CE 6.0

I was just wondering, is it possible to use the OS files from the CE 6.0 trial release and use it on the wizard? Probably a stupid question to ask though...
If it is possible, I have the CE 6.0 trial for someone to port though I'm guessing many of you already have this.
Thanks
ehhhh, you are not alone in matter...
some system files form winCE are useable in general , but nothing crucial, just some apps...
in other words i am curious too...
do you have C.E 6 or do you want me to give it to you? that is if you want to work on it of course
also, can you give me examples? would it mostly be the stuff that comes default in the SYS folder if you use the package tool on the rom?(games, remote desktop, windows update,etc.)
thanks
ND4SPD said:
do you have C.E 6 or do you want me to give it to you? that is if you want to work on it of course
also, can you give me examples? would it mostly be the stuff that comes default in the SYS folder if you use the package tool on the rom?(games, remote desktop, windows update,etc.)
thanks
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Post it someplace. I'd like to dump it out and take a look at it. Not sure I have time to really convert it right now but I"M sure someone might...
here is the link: ftp://xdaupload:[email protected]\Upload\C.E. 6.zip
link is working now
the only thing is, it isn't in the format you might expect. Or maybe it is. You will need VC++ on your computer and .NET framework 2.0. I don't know VC++ so I haven't even tried messing with it yet. That could change in a little while though.
just for good measure, i threw in the ce 6.0 platform builder sp1. please tell me if you need any other resources.
good luck!

getting started in programing for WM6. pls advise

hi folks,
i love my phone and will like to contribute...
i studied years ago turbo pascal but i figured that programing languages basically have similar flows?
i will like to seek advise from pros on how do i get started?
can i
1) know what programing language or tools do i need?
2) know what are the usual errors or problems so that my climb will be easier?
i am really sincere and i hope the pros can take some time to advise me...
yours
leo
I would say, the easiest way to do some application pgrogramming, is to use the Visual Studio 2008(Tool) and C#(language). The platform is .Net framework 3.5.
You can download the latest Windows Mobile emulators, and use it along with Visual studio to test and debug your programs. Once you are satisfied with the program, you can build the cab using Visual Studio(which you can install on the real windows mobile device).
Please post specifics if you need more info. I am sure most of the poeple here are willing to help!
Please try the search function before posting even though this is the Q&A section
This question was just asked: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=452400
sorry bro . . .
its fine, just figured you might find a little information quicker there
ok specific Q can i rely solely on "WYSIWYG" interface? rather than hardcode like C etc?
Nope. Solely WYSIWYG won't get you anywhere.
But you can use it. For example the CompactFramework.Net (CF.Net) has a WYSIWYG interface, but the underlying functionality you'll have to write yourself.
If that is what you meant...

Simple Android Quesiton

Hello Everyone. I have been looking through the android threads and I had a simple question that I did not see answered among those threads. The questions is this.
Are there any versions of Android that can boot as soon as the phone starts up? From what I have read, you have to always launch android manually.
Sorry if I missed a thread somewhere that covers this but I have not seen it anywhere. An answer or simple point to the right direction would be much appreciated. Thank you everyone for your time.
Answer: NO.
BUT...soon to be. dzo will make it possible soon, not sure how long it will take..since he doesnt have a kaiser, but he did it for vogue and said he will do it for kaiser.
Hyden121 said:
Are there any versions of Android that can boot as soon as the phone starts up? From what I have read, you have to always launch android manually.
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Technically no, as stated before DZO is working on it.
As for a "trick" to make it "auto boot", yes there is. Change the name of your default.txt to startup.txt this makes HaRET run without asking when clicked. Now place a shortcut to HaRET in your windows/start up foder. This way windows will automatically run HaRET as soon as the phone starts. And if there is an issue with Android, just remove the SD card and restart the phone. Doing this will act like it boots into Android, just a few seconds slower
Thank you for the responses. I have an I-phone 3GS now but always appreciated the new capibilities for the Kaiser made possible by the awesome chefs in this forum. I look forward to trying an Android Rom soon.
pmcnano said:
Answer: NO.
BUT...soon to be. dzo will make it possible soon, not sure how long it will take..since he doesnt have a kaiser, but he did it for vogue and said he will do it for kaiser.
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Actually, dzo does (or did) have a Kaiser. He was responsible for the first port of Android from the Vogue to the Kaiser. He was given a Kaiser by an anonymous member of this forum. Search the big Kaiser Android thread for "anonymous" and you'll see what I mean.
Once again I have a simple question that is probably a bit n00bish.
what requirements of andriod app can you use? Ive never had a andriod phone but I know that you have andriod 1.1 1.6 2.0 etc.
Im guessing the `more recent the app,the less likely it will work.
thoughtspeak said:
Once again I have a simple question that is probably a bit n00bish.
what requirements of andriod app can you use? Ive never had a andriod phone but I know that you have andriod 1.1 1.6 2.0 etc.
Im guessing the `more recent the app,the less likely it will work.
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For as far as I know: you can use most of the apps that suite our resolution used in our default.txt's and startup.txt's. Allso notice that, if an app is depending on a certain piece of hardware that is not working yet with that build, that you can't use it. For instance: we don't have working bluetooth yet, so bluetooth dependant apps could be kind of a hassle.
I have tried many builds and figured that most ION and Donut related apps seem to work for me.

[Q] Emulating Windows Mobile 6.x on Android

Hey Guys,
1) sorry if this has come up before, search-fu is weak and nothign relevant seems to come up with the "Similar threads" thing.
2) My provider has all but forced me off Windows Mobile, which is fine, since with sideloading being such a hard task on WM7, and that I would have to pay alot to get a WM7 handset and go up monthly fees too, i'm not too fussed.
So i've taken the plunge and gone for an Android phone, trouble is I have a few apps on my old windows mobile device I would love to run on Android... number 1 priority being TomTom Navigator, which yes, I could repay for, but I don't see why I should have to.
So, is there any software in the works that will let me run Windows Mobile based apps on an Android phone?
many thanks
Sorry for bringing an old topic back into the daylight, but I have the same thought. I definately need some apps of WM running on Android when I'll buy my new phone, so this kind of emulator would be a major reason to switch from my outdated Touch Pro. Couldn't something like Haret be created, just to run Windows Mobile, not Android?
There is no, for now
thanks for clearing that out, that's a pitty. But how about the future? Is it at least theorically possible to create something to have this kind of dual boot? Would Android community and developers be interesting in this?
Yeah I wish that was possible, but no.

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