i heard from the developer of chompsms (makers of bitesms for iphone), that they have more freedom on a jb iphone than on android...WTF... they can enable a quick compose sms from the lockscreen via the volume switch on an iphone, but cant on the nexus one? when will devs be able to use the trackball for say screenshots, or quick compose... why would "open" android be more limited than a jb iphone... the dev claimed with android they still had to "play by the rules"...this is not why i switched to a nexus one... also such functionality like intellilscreen which displays weather, calendar, and sms/email on the lockscreen... come on google, give us some access!
anyone able to actually develop these apps?
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why would "open" android be more limited than a jb iphone..
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This has a super simple answer, and it doesn't have anything to do with the OS. This has all to do with people developing apps... there are MORE hacked iPhone users than android OS phones total out there. That's a HUGE install base to work off of.
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Hello, I am writing this on a Vibrant, I am using it until the HD7 launches, only thing is, as I use it I say " oh I'm gonna miss that".
Is anyone regretting the switch? Are you happy you switched? You don't really have to have an HD7 just a Windows Phone 7 device, I really like it but I am worried about how many apps there are etc. I heard it has increased to 1,000 + in the first 2 weeks, that's pretty good. However, it can be just like Android, where they boast about numbers and the majority of the apps are pure garbage.... help me out please and thank you.
If you are interested on what I want on a device:
Games
News apps
Fast web browsing
Music
Oh and if it could make phone calls, that's always nice too...
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Why worry about the apps?
There will be a paid app for your to add a custom ringtone really soon
Well there are both non Xbox games and Xbox games and so there is and will be a lot of good games on WP7.
There are a few news applications already for example BBC News app.
The browser is very fast compared to Android and iOS.
Their Zune music player works well well and is better than Androids music player.
Smokexz said:
If you are interested on what I want on a device:
Games
News apps
Fast web browsing
Music
Oh and if it could make phone calls, that's always nice too...
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If that's what you're looking for then you wont regret WP7.
Now, sell me your vibrant.
lqaddict said:
Why worry about the apps?
There will be a paid app for your to add a custom ringtone really soon
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How, I thought such settings were not allowed for applications
I miss Chrome-To-Phone and Android2Cloud
I miss all the tiny apps that integrated into the 'Share' menu.
WP7 is currently lacking in the sharing department, but hopefully with apps developed? I don't know if they can easily.
One of my faves on android: 'Share' to TinyUrl applet, which copies a tinyurl link to your clipboard automatically to the link you shared, so handy.
I also miss Share to twitter, and twitter 'push' notifications! I want a notification when I get an @reply and not have to set up email alerts...
I miss using the phone LED and not just the display as a flashlight...
I miss settings... there are no settings to tinker with on WP7... it's all dumbed down.
evilangelic said:
I miss Chrome-To-Phone and Android2Cloud
I miss settings... there are no settings to tinker with on WP7... it's all dumbed down.
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This is one of the biggest things i'm missing, there's no menu button with extra settings that popup (well it wouldn't be like that but you know, nothing similar).
I am loving WP7 though.
brummiesteven said:
This is one of the biggest things i'm missing, there's no menu button with extra settings that popup (well it wouldn't be like that but you know, nothing similar).
I am loving WP7 though.
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As I recall, the context-sensitive toolbar at the bottom of the screen is the equivalent of Android's "Menu" button. And what's in that menu/toolbar is dependent on the application developer. Its not that you are missing these 'extra settings', its that the application developer has not created any extra settings for you to play with.
Some apps will have tons of settings, some won't have any. Its the same with Android apps. You've just gotta wait for the developer to add these extra settings (if they even want to).
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As I recall, the context-sensitive toolbar at the bottom of the screen is the equivalent of Android's "Menu" button. And what's in that menu/toolbar is dependent on the application developer. Its not that you are missing these 'extra settings', its that the application developer has not created any extra settings for you to play with.
Some apps will have tons of settings, some won't have any. Its the same with Android apps. You've just gotta wait for the developer to add these extra settings (if they even want to).
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Yeah it's like iOS, it only shows settings when there are settings, and menus when menus are needed only it looks better than iOS
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How to get Email description in notification bar instead of generic "1 unread message
When I receive an email with the gmail app, there is a description of the email i.e. subject line shows up in notification bar. With the stock email app there is just a generic "1 unread email" that shows up.. Ive looked at all the settings and searched.
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When I receive an email with the gmail app, there is a description of the email i.e. subject line shows up in notification bar. With the stock email app there is just a generic "1 unread email" that shows up.. Ive looked at all the settings and searched.
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Unfortunately this isn't an option on the stock email app. It's possible that ROMS will allow you to do this in the future but you need an unlocked bootloader in order to do that.
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Unfortunately this isn't an option on the stock email app. It's possible that ROMS will allow you to do this in the future but you need an unlocked bootloader in order to do that.
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As an iPhone user for the past 4 years, I just don't see the Android hype. Why can't personalize the phone the way we want.. it's an ANDROID for Pete's sake. So far, my push email has been delayed, the phone heats up for no reason and drains battery, and there are no Google voice missed call notifications for android, all things that I could do and/or worked perfect on my iPhone.
Guys, have I got a great app for you.
Notifier Pro in the Play Store, sorry to lazy to link it to you.
But there is a free version and it does the notifications way better and somewhat iPhone like.
It has made a big dif for me coming from the iPhone 4S
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As an iPhone user for the past 4 years, I just don't see the Android hype. Why can't personalize the phone the way we want.. it's an ANDROID for Pete's sake. So far, my push email has been delayed, the phone heats up for no reason and drains battery, and there are no Google voice missed call notifications for android, all things that I could do and/or worked perfect on my iPhone.
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If you dont like android im fairly sure nobody forced you into it. If you truly think the iphone is better, then you can easily switch back. BUT, if you really want a different experience than every other iphone user on the planet, you wont get it. Give these developers a little time and an unlocked bootloader and you can make your phone YOURS. Want something tweaked in the notification bar, chances are someone here can do it. Concerned about battery drains, chances are they will get fixed.
Androids not perfect, but luckily we have all these amazing people to make it as close as it gets. The way i see it, you can either have your phone be Apple's experience, OR you can have it be a personal experience, the way you want it.
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As an iPhone user for the past 4 years, I just don't see the Android hype. Why can't personalize the phone the way we want.. it's an ANDROID for Pete's sake. So far, my push email has been delayed, the phone heats up for no reason and drains battery, and there are no Google voice missed call notifications for android, all things that I could do and/or worked perfect on my iPhone.
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I hear ya bro...you should return it for iphone 4s....Android is not for everyone...especially android phone with locked bootloader...
Trying the One X too - from a 4S
Nimski62, I get what you are saying - there are aspects of the Android OS that have been surpassed such as the email notifications you are describing. And I can relate - I've have every iPhone (all were my daily drivers) and have been trying out different android models to see what the hype really is about. (AT&T- Inspire, Atrix, Atrix 2, SGS 2 & VZN - TBolt, Razr, Rezound, DINC2) and now the One X.
Different doesn't always mean worse. For me, I'd rather see a single notification saying there are 4 unread emails, instead of a mini preview entry for each one.
But the Google Voice notifications for missed calls IS REALLY NICE - especially if you are out of a service area, but have a WIFI connection - those notifications still come through.
For me, I keep trying to find a handset that is at least as good speed, battery, and feature-set as the latest iPhone. With each phone, I get a chance to re-evaluate what I think is important for what I want in a phone. For now, I think that MAY be the One X but the BIGGEST factor is getting over the idea of what you are used to using. If you have a 4S, then getting over the one-handed ease of use (along with the instant functionality of Siri [when she works]) is rather difficult. There aren't many droids that are butter smooth and have near instant UI responsiveness as the 4S. Photostream and iMessage rocks
But I love Swype, SwiftKey X, and the faster and more accurate google voice to text (IMHO) as well as the built in navigation. I love the bigger screen and hate it at the same time each time I pull it out of my back pocket. I love the part that you can add software to almost any part of the phone - launcher, dialer, lock screen, file and video viewers, etc. Thats what keeps me coming back to android.
The issue I have now is that I've been trying to find out myself about why the Google Voice missed call notifications are not coming through all the time on my 1X - but yet they works faster on my 4S. go figure. Its still new and updates are coming - I'm sure and I still have about 24 days to go before I have to commit.
Since I added a line to my account, I'll still keep the 4S as a backup on the other number. But so far, Im really impressed.
First of all, I know if I say something bad about Android, I get negative replies and maybe the thread is closed. That was what I got when I posted some criticism about Android's application uninstall interface. I am not a troll, I have 3 Android devices, it is just I want it to get better. I also use Apple products, and recently I bought a Logitech mouse and couldn't get the back/forward button on my Macbook, so I searched Apple user forum, and I found some user had asked/complained about it. I was shocked at that the other user's response was something like 'why use forward/backward button, how difficult is it to press the back button on the screen'. Apparently for some people, when they are in love with something, they just cannot find anything bad about it.
Anyways, back to the main story, we all admire Android for its freedom. But it seems to me, that the freedom of developer is much larger than that of users. I often receive junk notifications from apps I have installed. One app sent a notification at 2 or 3 AM. You may say, "uninstall it then", but what if I have bought it and I need to use it?
iOS solves this problem by letting users disable notifications per application. I don't know if I can do similar thing by adding custom modification or using a custom ROM, but think about 'normal' people, they don't know how to do such things and they have not much time to spend their weekends doing that kind of things.
Freedom is a good thing, but there should be a mechanism to prevent its misuse, like laws in real life. And I think the user should have an easy access to such mechanisms. I mean 'easy', not installing custom ROM or through rooting.
That's only possible in Android 4.1 Jellybean. If you have a way to update your device, do it
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That's only possible in Android 4.1 Jellybean. If you have a way to update your device, do it
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Unfortunately most of us are stuck running something older. Personally I think unwanted notifications from apps is a bad idea, and I will usually uninstall an app that does this just because I don't support devs that do this. Check to see if the app can have the notifications disabled in its settings.
I see that the HTC First will be more integrated into the notification system of Android. Will ROM makers be able to make these higher level integrations on their ROMs, or is this specific to individual devices, like PhotoSphere?
Probably way too early in the game for such. Don't know much about it yet but it seems Facebook Home is deeply integrated into the OS (with respect to the First), mainly in the form of a launcher. However, HTC/Facebook states the First comes "preinstalled" with Home so maybe they will be releasing a stand alone launcher for other phones.
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Probably way too early in the game for such. Don't know much about it yet but it seems Facebook Home is deeply integrated into the OS (with respect to the First), mainly in the form of a launcher. However, HTC/Facebook states the First comes "preinstalled" with Home so maybe they will be releasing a stand alone launcher for other phones.
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From what I understand, the idea is to have a standalone launcher serperate from the Facebook and Messenger apps, in case you don't want the launcher. But if you get the launcher, it also includes a universal messenger for Facebook and SMS. The "deep integration" on the First is for notifications only, and the way the OS handles them.
I read an article stating the First will have a way of uninstalling the app so you have a stock OS.
Not sure if theres already a thread (dont think there is but I havent searched far)
Things I would like to see are:
Official Social Media Apps - Facebook, Whatsapp, Twitter integration etc.
S Voice Improvement - Feel like it lacks a whopping amount, I literally feel like the only thing I can ask it to do is Call / Message someone or Open an app or request the weather (Which is on my homescreen anyway). Things that surprised me is that it can't play a song on the device on request, or open an application on the phone on request etc. I feel like it should run its responses through the official S Voice app on the phone if the request isn't a direct Gear command.
Lock security on wrist - Phone lock security on the wrist, I understand there is already the "Autolock" but some nice security features would possibly be a pin unlock that shows up on watch (or on phone if not connected) or a pattern unlock, gives more security options. Or even when clicking the option in notifications to "Open on phone" that it bypasses the lockscreen.
Remote Phone Viewer - Somewhat like teamviewer but where you can actually view your phones screen, scroll around and interact from your wrist, might be slow and tedious but would be a fun feature and extend its capabilities into the phone itself.
Unified Remote application for PC control - I always find Unified remote a good application for remote access to PC's it would be nice to see them develop an application for the wrist!
Android Wear Application integration, allowing tizen to run android wear apps, I feel if Samsung don't allow this, or don't speed up the process of passing applications their smart watches will be outran by watches such as the Moto 360.
Think thats all my ideas so far, would love to hear yours!
I would like to see an application like Shazam.
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Not sure if theres already a thread (dont think there is but I havent searched far)
Things I would like to see are:
Official Social Media Apps - Facebook, Whatsapp, Twitter integration etc.
S Voice Improvement - Feel like it lacks a whopping amount, I literally feel like the only thing I can ask it to do is Call / Message someone or Open an app or request the weather (Which is on my homescreen anyway). Things that surprised me is that it can't play a song on the device on request, or open an application on the phone on request etc. I feel like it should run its responses through the official S Voice app on the phone if the request isn't a direct Gear command.
Lock security on wrist - Phone lock security on the wrist, I understand there is already the "Autolock" but some nice security features would possibly be a pin unlock that shows up on watch (or on phone if not connected) or a pattern unlock, gives more security options. Or even when clicking the option in notifications to "Open on phone" that it bypasses the lockscreen.
Remote Phone Viewer - Somewhat like teamviewer but where you can actually view your phones screen, scroll around and interact from your wrist, might be slow and tedious but would be a fun feature and extend its capabilities into the phone itself.
Unified Remote application for PC control - I always find Unified remote a good application for remote access to PC's it would be nice to see them develop an application for the wrist!
Android Wear Application integration, allowing tizen to run android wear apps, I feel if Samsung don't allow this, or don't speed up the process of passing applications their smart watches will be outran by watches such as the Moto 360.
Think thats all my ideas so far, would love to hear yours!
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I want Google now and a MUCH better texting program. I want to be able to receive the test and reply to it in one step.
TelloMan said:
I want Google now and a MUCH better texting program. I want to be able to receive the test and reply to it in one step.
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Flesky Messengers lets you do the 2nd bit?
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Flesky Messengers lets you do the 2nd bit?
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Yes, but you need to exit whichever notification you are in and go into Flesky. IMO, Flesky is slow, even with the latest update. Takes a few seconds to open and doesn't automatically refresh your feed. Very annoying that something better hasn't come out from Tizen yet. :crying:
twoesse said:
I would like to see an application like Shazam.
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Theres an app called Gearam Music ID which works like shazam ive tested it and its pretty good!
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Yes, but you need to exit whichever notification you are in and go into Flesky. IMO, Flesky is slow, even with the latest update. Takes a few seconds to open and doesn't automatically refresh your feed. Very annoying that something better hasn't come out from Tizen yet. :crying:
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Oh I definitely agree with that, what annoys me about default notification app is that it takes up a huge bit of scroll space repeatedly telling you that the button below opens on the phone even though the button itself says that. Should use that space to have an "Open in watch messenger" to reply!
General keyboard
More and more apps let you type in stuff. But every app has his own made keyboard.
So a keyboard implementation general for all apps!!
Then developers can make the perfect keyboard which you can choose.
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Theres an app called Gearam Music ID which works like shazam ive tested it and its pretty good!
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Thank's. I will try it.
Sorry for my bad english, i'm french.
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General keyboard
More and more apps let you type in stuff. But every app has his own made keyboard.
So a keyboard implementation general for all apps!!
Then developers can make the perfect keyboard which you can choose.
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Definitely agree, I don't mind typing on my watch it is manageable!
and we all know we're going to be doing it discreetly (while at work) so I could just carry a thin stylus if I ever needed to, might take something finding one, I was quite disappointed that non of the s pens worked.
"Unified Remote application for PC control "
I actually asked the developers of Unified Remote about making a Tizen port of their app - or at least something that could work in conjunction with the phone app. They said they'd look into it, but I'm not holding my breath.
We'll have more luck if the Color Tiger developers who make Smart IR lite come through with their new device that is being crowdfunded as we speak - as they said that device will be able to get commands from the watch somehow.
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"Unified Remote application for PC control "
I actually asked the developers of Unified Remote about making a Tizen port of their app - or at least something that could work in conjunction with the phone app. They said they'd look into it, but I'm not holding my breath.
We'll have more luck if the Color Tiger developers who make Smart IR lite come through with their new device that is being crowdfunded as we speak - as they said that device will be able to get commands from the watch somehow.
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Hopefully they do develop a watch app it would be great and promote their app much more. I would even pay for it!
At the moment im using Wearable Widgets with a 4x4 simple unified remote widget but as I don't like wearable widgets limited options on clock faces and lack of time updates I have to flick between clock faces which is impractical!
Just thought of a new one, develop sleep application to toggle your phone into a sleepmode turn sync off etc location dim screen. Then once you wake up and toggle sleep off it turns them all on!