Hi All,
First off I would like to say thanks to all the people who are about to tell me off for not searching the forums first.
What Im trying to find out is which of the htc phones have actual gps and not agps.. The place where I am is expensive to use 3g as much as I would want to use it.. but I dont want to carry around a gps unit as well as a phone..
So if you can think of something off the top of your head, please let me know..
Cheers..
plse remember...
i have a "touch hd " which has intergrated gps .
but remember ....that even as you use gps
to see your position ( co- ords , etc ),
yes, it will not use any data connection,
but.....as soon as you start using maps with the gps ( or a gps application with maps included ) to navigate/travel etc .
it uses data../connects to 3 g ... etc
bottom line...you have to choose your "gps " applications carefully
and adapt ...that it works for you ..with minimal data connections and cost.
hope it helps a little ..
good luck
willcor
go to google and type in aGPS vs GPS. it should be the first article and it should be from wmexperts dot com
according to them aGPS and GPS are the potentially the same thing. the only difference is that aGPS can do a little more. what i dont like is how cell carriers are advertising aGPS. they advertise it as if you need to pay for there services and use internet in order for it to work properly. what you are really paying for is updated maps, traffic reports, etc(stuff that mere humans such as myself dont really need). like the guy above me said some programs require an internet connection, but its still most likely to update maps(seriously, do roads change on a month to month basis LOL)
if you do find a program that allows you to use the aGPS receiver as a full on stand alone GPS unit, like ones search and rescue use, message me, i stopped looking because i dont even have a smart phone yet!!!
So does this mean i could just install something like tomtom on a htc device but only let it update when im connected with wifi?
i use my kaiser with tom and no data connection all the time it works great. i would reccomend getting a tilt if you want somthing cheap and an lg expo if you want somthing nice and useing navicomputer it is free and has offline maps that is what i do.
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I have an HTC Hermes (Cingular 8525) and have Google maps on it, I also have a bluetooth GPS receiver. Now, My problem is that I DO NOT HAVE A DATA PLAN... Yes, I have a smart-phone and no dataplan. My university has wall-to-wall (and even a little past the walls) Wifi, so I essentially had free wireless data anyway. Problem is, I'm taking a bit of a road-trip and won't have wireless in the car.
I need a program/app/utility so that I can enter my destination and origin, and it will save the route I'm going to travel on, so that I can have the map showing while driving with the gps updating my location without needing the constant internet connection.
It doesn't have to be google maps, just something that will run without internet.
Thanks!
tomtom is the obvious answer? Not free ofc, or at least, not free in any method I will mention on here..
I've searched a lot for some way of downloading parts of google maps cause i'm in the same situation as you, but with no success.. Seems odd, i would have thought it a really obvious feature to include?
I got myself a copy of tomtom navigator 6, brilliant for directions or just seeing where you are on your route, and no internet connection needed
Ok, maybe you guys can help here. I have quite a bit of experience with Windows Mobile phones (had an 8525, upgraded to a custom ROM, unlocked SIM/CID, etc), so that's what level of experience you're working with.
Now, I just picked up the Fuze, very cool phone! However, I'm wondering the following about GPS:
1. Is it available in this phone (i.e. AT&T didn't disable it).
2. I want to do GPS. I don't have a data plan. I DO have wi-fi. I DON'T want to be charged money. Is this possible?
Thanks in advance! The questions were probably asked elsewhere, but I looked around a bit and everything else looked way above these questions, which hopefully are pretty simple to answer...
i have the same question...
I know the Fuze has GPS, and i followed the steps on THIS link, but it doesnt seem to work, the GPS Test, never seems to finish looking for satelites, and when i go to Google Maps, it keeps "seeking GPS satelites"
GPS is available on the Fuze and it's independent of any data plan. All you need is some program that can access the GPS.
However, getting the GPS to work seems to be flakey at best. I tested mine briefly but wasn't able to get a signal lock. Need to do some more testing.
The GPS on my Fuze works great. First you should run Quick GPS and it will use the wifi to download the current GPS satellite locations. Then you should use google maps, you have to goto google maps menu and say 'use gps' then just go stand outside somewhere where theres no much tree coverage and wait for awhile (for the first time, now that I've done it once the GPS starts working in 10 seconds or so) Then you will start to pick up the gps satellites. I'm not sure how great it will be without a data plan... it uses the data plan to download the map info. Hopefully your wifi works out side.
cladeus101 said:
The GPS on my Fuze works great. First you should run Quick GPS and it will use the wifi to download the current GPS satellite locations. Then you should use google maps, you have to goto google maps menu and say 'use gps' then just go stand outside somewhere where theres no much tree coverage and wait for awhile (for the first time, now that I've done it once the GPS starts working in 10 seconds or so) Then you will start to pick up the gps satellites. I'm not sure how great it will be without a data plan... it uses the data plan to download the map info. Hopefully your wifi works out side.
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What about using something like Garmin or TomTom's software? Would that work without a data plan, and without the need for wi-fi?
I use Garmin without a data plan and it works great. I installed it first thing after I got my GPS and didn't do anything to get it to work. The GPS on my FUZE worked out of the box like it should.
I'm using Google Maps without a data connection (don't have one and don't want one). I've installed GPS Test to activate the GPS chip. When I turn wifi off, Google Maps starts acting flakey.
A few questions:
Does the Google maps .cab actually load the map detail to my device?
Here's my big question:
Is is possible for me to drive around and watch my progress with just the GPS chip and Google Maps (or Window Live Search)? If not, the GPS seems useless to me, correct?
Thanks
Both programs require data connection for use. If you want gps software that does not require data connection try tom tom for pocket pc.
So I need to spend $100 more to make any use of the GPS while on the road? Is there anything it's useful for without a data plan or additional software?
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So I need to spend $100 more to make any use of the GPS while on the road? Is there anything it's useful for without a data plan or additional software?
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Considering that there is no software on the world that fulfills your wishes regarding GPS I'd say that yes, there is nothing useful without a data plan or aditional software.
In hungary for example HTC TP is sold together with IGO8. If you'd get one of those TP's then yes, you would have had a TP which did not require anything to work as you want it.
At least yours gets signal. I just got a FUZE yesterday and TomTom 6 wont grab freakin signal... Nor will LIVE Maps... It sucks!
Have you installed GPS test? This piece of software seems to activate the GPS chip in your phone. I would be curious to know if TomTom works after running this.
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Have you installed GPS test? This piece of software seems to activate the GPS chip in your phone. I would be curious to know if TomTom works after running this.
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I just posted this thread... I found a tool that seemed to do just that...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=461786
Is that the one you are refering to?
Yep, that's the one, GPSTest. It was all I needed to activate my chip.
Are you saying I could install TomTom 6 now and be able to do what I originally wanted to do from my first post?
Thats what im doing now.... gunna test it later today...
Do you have a link for the TomTom product you are using?
It's just TomTom Navigator 6.... I bought it a while back for my Tilt...
Nah, forget it. If I have to shell out $100+ more to load up and slow down my fuze, I'm not interested. Might as well buy an actual TomTom or Garmin device with better functionality for less. Very disappointing that the GPS chip seems to be absolutely useless to me...
There are already other GPS threads, TomTom, Igo, Google Maps, Windows Maps, etc threads. Not need for this one. Thread closed. Please don't open redundant threads.
My friend has the LG incite and run windows mobile. He has no media net, but is able to use gps just by using gpsgate and then the tom tom program. i was wondering if there is a way for us on the FUZE to do the same?
SEARCH SEARCH SEARCHH!! <<--- IDK why people don't use the search when we have it!!
all you have to do is turn off the AGPS in your settings. (Go to Start > Settings > System > AGPS Settings) and make sure Enable AGPS is NOT checked. You now have GPS without using your MediaNet!
Definitely did not work for me... Are there any other settings that I need? I turned off AGPS and went to my google maps and tom tom and can't get it to work.
.....google maps REQUIRES the internet to work, whether it's WiFi or MediaNet some sort fo internet is needed.
...as per TomTom it should work. I used to do it all the time until i actually got the data plan for myself.
See i don't want to get the data plan because its just for something I will use once in a blue moon. I just wanna have GPS in case I need it some time
okay...so TomTom or any other navigation software will work as long as you have the maps on your storage card...
I gotta wait till I get my phone back, but can anyone tell me if this works? (People without media Net of course) From my understanding it'll keep saying that its looking for a connection and can't get one.
not sure what "media net" is assuming it's some sort of isp
but gps don't require gprs or even a phone part to work
mind you most these gps's dont work indoors you have to be outside
or in a car and have a working tomtom set correctly up or gamin or any
other gps software suite
Media Net is ATT data plan they call it media net. Everytime I try connecting GPS it seems like its trying to use a data plan and since I shut it off by calling up ATT it seems like my phone is only trying to go through ATT and saying no connection
tomtom and gamin gps software should not use a data connection at all
if of cause the install include the cards of where one is located
the same software is run on pda's with gps but no phone
like many of the mio pda's
if your using some PirateBay copy of Tomtom or Garmin then you need to check the tags. Raphael is not a smartphone it's a PPC.
Advanced config take off aGPS.
MoDaCo nodata.cab
otherwise get garmin i've had very few problems once i figured out how to copy my maps from my c550 to my phone.
whats the point of having a phone as powerful as the touch pro if you aren't gonna pay for a data plan? thats like a car with no gas
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whats the point of having a phone as powerful as the touch pro if you aren't gonna pay for a data plan? thats like a car with no gas
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albeit i do have a data plan, i debated it for a while when i realized i was spending 80-90 hours a week in the hospital which has wifi and so does the fuze....given the limited time out of wifi spots, i almost went without it.... but then chose to go with it for those times when i'm not in wifi spots...
Try Amaze Gps....turn by turn gps...and it doesnt use data....and best of all its free!!
amAze needs the user to have a data plan in order for it to operate. similar to google maps
I want to say I love this site and have learned alot. I have tried for quite a time to get GPS to work on the xv6700, tho it seems much disinformation has been spread as far as a GPS being within. I have torn down this phone to see for myself if the MSM6500 was in this, which it is. Therefore I believe it does have this ability. I recently installed a program called WPS by Skyhook, which is a Wireless Positioning System. Now just a footnote; my phone has no carrier, I only use it for surfing the internet with wifi. To utilize WPS the site tells me I would need an active internet connection, however it stills works with no connection!!! It seems as if I have gotten the internal gps to wake up. I use Open Mobile Maps and it works excellent. I pickup satellites with Google Maps just to test at home (so far as many as 10 satellites). Can somebody else please duplicate this to verify exactly what is going on here? I just want to emphasize that this is with NO CONNECTION to ANYTHING!!!