So, I'm probably getting my Nexus One in a couple days, and I wanted to get the Desktop Dock with it. One thing about it that I wanted to know, however, is if the phone needs to be in the dock in order to play music through it (since it uses A2DP) and if not, if it's just a standard A2DP device so I can use my iPod touch with it, too.
your Ipod wont' work with the dock. N1 has 3 connector pins on the bottom which needs to be connected to your dock in order to play music through the dock.
MintyFloss said:
your Ipod wont' work with the dock. N1 has 3 connector pins on the bottom which needs to be connected to your dock in order to play music through the dock.
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So, even though those are just for charging and letting the phone know that it's in the dock and the audio is done via Bluetooth it still won't work as a standard A2DP device?
MintyFloss said:
your Ipod wont' work with the dock. N1 has 3 connector pins on the bottom which needs to be connected to your dock in order to play music through the dock.
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This is not entirely true. After the initial pairing of the N1/Dock (and selecting to use it for sounds/media) you can just select the Dock from the list of BT devices and manually pair with it. It will then route the appropriate audio through the dock, no need to actually have it sitting in the dock at all.
So, in theory it could work with your iPod touch if you can get the 2 to pair.
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This is not entirely true. After the initial pairing of the N1/Dock (and selecting to use it for sounds/media) you can just select the Dock from the list of BT devices and manually pair with it. It will then route the appropriate audio through the dock, no need to actually have it sitting in the dock at all.
So, in theory it could work with your iPod touch if you can get the 2 to pair.
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Alright, thanks! That's what I wanted to know.
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This is not entirely true. After the initial pairing of the N1/Dock (and selecting to use it for sounds/media) you can just select the Dock from the list of BT devices and manually pair with it. It will then route the appropriate audio through the dock, no need to actually have it sitting in the dock at all.
So, in theory it could work with your iPod touch if you can get the 2 to pair.
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I don't know if it will work with the ipod touch, but I tried it with my iPhone (testing/development only!!) and it didn't work, it kept giving errors and such... the same happened when I tried pairing the dock with the computer, same thing.. I think HTC "crippled" the dock to only allow mac addresses from htc phones, or even nexus one only... **** ive never tried it with my G1 (i'll repost with that)
UPDATE: no luck making it work with a G1. Yeap, apparently the dock only likes to eat bacon.
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I don't know if it will work with the ipod touch, but I tried it with my iPhone (testing/development only!!) and it didn't work, it kept giving errors and such... the same happened when I tried pairing the dock with the computer, same thing.. I think HTC "crippled" the dock to only allow mac addresses from htc phones, or even nexus one only... **** ive never tried it with my G1 (i'll repost with that)
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This ^ is what I was trying to say :3
iPods wont work with the N1 dock.
MintyFloss said:
This ^ is what I was trying to say :3
iPods wont work with the N1 dock.
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Yeah, sorry, I missed your post above that one.
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Yeah, sorry, I missed your post above that one.
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Oh i wasn't flaming ya. I meant I was too stupid to explain it well, unlike you
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I don't know if it will work with the ipod touch, but I tried it with my iPhone (testing/development only!!) and it didn't work, it kept giving errors and such... the same happened when I tried pairing the dock with the computer, same thing.. I think HTC "crippled" the dock to only allow mac addresses from htc phones, or even nexus one only... **** ive never tried it with my G1 (i'll repost with that)
UPDATE: no luck making it work with a G1. Yeap, apparently the dock only likes to eat bacon.
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I don't have the foggiest if you can do this, but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_spoofing ? Spoof the mac address in a PC bluetooth adapter to see if it really is looking for the nexus one MAC address or if it is looking for a particular PIN code?
I honestly thing the third pin on the nexus one is what does the pairing between the dock and the nexus one. And you need to duplicate the functionality of this pin to get it work properly.
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I don't have the foggiest if you can do this, but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_spoofing ? Spoof the mac address in a PC bluetooth adapter to see if it really is looking for the nexus one MAC address or if it is looking for a particular PIN code?
I honestly thing the third pin on the nexus one is what does the pairing between the dock and the nexus one. And you need to duplicate the functionality of this pin to get it work properly.
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I could try that. But, I will say that I really don't think that third pin is for that, and here's why; you can connect your nexus via bluetooth to the dock without docking. Enable bluetooth and the Desk Dock will show up in the list, connect to it and done.
And yes, you can do this with any nexus without ever docking, I tried it with mine but I had already docked it in the past. Then I tried it with another N1 that was never docked and it worked as well.
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I could try that. But, I will say that I really don't think that third pin is for that, and here's why; you can connect your nexus via bluetooth to the dock without docking. Enable bluetooth and the Desk Dock will show up in the list, connect to it and done.
And yes, you can do this with any nexus without ever docking, I tried it with mine but I had already docked it in the past. Then I tried it with another N1 that was never docked and it worked as well.
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The third pin is just so the phone knows its docked and launches the clock app (and connects bluetooth if you have it setup that way). You would be correct in the fact that you can connect your N1 without the dock, I do it all the time so I can skip tracks streaming to my stereo with out walking over to the dock.
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The third pin is just so the phone knows its docked and launches the clock app (and connects bluetooth if you have it setup that way). You would be correct in the fact that you can connect your N1 without the dock, I do it all the time so I can skip tracks streaming to my stereo with out walking over to the dock.
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Exactly, in more technical words, the third pin is makes the system send a DOCK_EVENT broadcadt with the DESK_DOCK extra and the phone acts accordingly.
I developed an app that simulates this, its on the market, "Dock Simulator".
So no way to pair regular a2dp devices to dock other than Nexus?
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So no way to pair regular a2dp devices to dock other than Nexus?
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No, I think the dock is doing some kind of mac authentication to only allow a nexus one to connect to it.
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No, I think the dock is doing some kind of mac authentication to only allow a nexus one to connect to it.
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Oh hmmmm... Has to be a way to spoof it? It's a simple receiver? Maybe someone will figure it out and make an app for it lol.
Could it be that the password is not just 0000? Anyone check the bluetooth files on the N1 for other passwords?
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Oh hmmmm... Has to be a way to spoof it? It's a simple receiver? Maybe someone will figure it out and make an app for it lol.
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maybe spoofing the mac address of the device, an app won't do this. I would look into it but my desktop's HDD is screwed up and my laptop sucks.
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Could it be that the password is not just 0000? Anyone check the bluetooth files on the N1 for other passwords?
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I don't think that it's the password, and I very highly doubt it's the MAC address. My computer pairs just fine with it if I don't use a password. The problem is that it has trouble activating the A2DP profile of the dock.
I haven't tried but I am thinking that there is a mismatch in passwords. Either way the Nexus One has a profile set up for the dock in /system/etc/AudioBTID.csv and I am sure there is info in AudioPara4.csv
I am sure this will help spread some light on it.
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While I know that Apple has all of their information locked up tighter than Fort Knox, I was wondering if it would be feasible to create an application to "act like" an Ipod with other hardware. IE my head unit in my car that works wonderfully with Ipod but cannot even "see" my Android phones.
If that's not possible at all, is there a way to get my head unit to see my N1 as an actual jump drive (which is supported by the unit)?
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While I know that Apple has all of their information locked up tighter than Fort Knox, I was wondering if it would be feasible to create an application to "act like" an Ipod with other hardware. IE my head unit in my car that works wonderfully with Ipod but cannot even "see" my Android phones.
If that's not possible at all, is there a way to get my head unit to see my N1 as an actual jump drive (which is supported by the unit)?
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I hope I don't get beat up over this, but... "Head Unit"? I can assume you mean a Bluetooth stereo headset possibly?
My Kensington Bluetooth Stereo headset works fine with my nexus... But again, not sure if this is what you are referring to.
I think maybe he is referring to an audio in port that recognizes ipods, but not his nexus one maybe?
Im sure by head unit he means his car's stereo. and If you can get the nexus into USB drive mode your stereo should recognize it.
I am referring to a USB connection to my "car stereo". Not using Bluetooth.
When I am connected to my g/f's iPod, it works so seamlessly it's insane. Shows album art, all things are controlled directly from the head unit ....
I guess looking for an interface to communicate between the head unit and the N1. Would presume it's possible since the interface protocol is in the wild for devs. I just personally don't know a darned thing about it.
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Im sure by head unit he means his car's stereo. and If you can get the nexus into USB drive mode your stereo should recognize it.
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It doesn't... Not on mine or 3 other USB equipped head units I have tried it on.
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I am referring to a USB connection to my "car stereo". Not using Bluetooth.
When I am connected to my g/f's iPod, it works so seamlessly it's insane. Shows album art, all things are controlled directly from the head unit ....
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What head unit do you have, and how do you like it? (Offtopic, yes, but I'm looking for a new, good head unit for my car that has great iPod functionality. )
Well I have a double din and not sure what you require. I am running the Pioneer AVH-P3200DVD. It really has come a long way with integration. Just wish others would realize there is much more out there than Mac-n-Crap.
try and mount the phones sd card when it is plugd in to the Head Unit
and use bplayer or meridian as music app Works for me
The problem isn't the phone, it's the unit.
I have a Pioneer as well (http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-Premi..._6?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1274031647&sr=1-6)
And it's the same ****. Won't recognize my Zune at all through the USB, and it sometimes recognizes the android phone when it's set to USB, but then it grabs every audio file in the phone, which is a bunch of crap i don't want.
But anyway, It's because Pioneer only made it support/look for apple devices. So anything else it just doesn't recognize. On mine the only thing that works perfectly is a USB flash drive. i have an 8GB unit pluged in with all my music and it works perfectly. but try anything else and it rarely works.
And unfortunately, just like you said, you'd need to make the phone look like an ipod and add all that software in, which just isn't possible.
So basically, your gonna have to get it to work by mounting the USB, or using another media player such as the ones jtz100 mentioned.
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While I know that Apple has all of their information locked up tighter than Fort Knox, I was wondering if it would be feasible to create an application to "act like" an Ipod with other hardware. IE my head unit in my car that works wonderfully with Ipod but cannot even "see" my Android phones.
If that's not possible at all, is there a way to get my head unit to see my N1 as an actual jump drive (which is supported by the unit)?
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Actually it used to work fine when android used 1.1 after they switched the way the usb connectivity worked it doesn't work well at all
get a usb mounting app and try
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Actually it used to work fine when android used 1.1 after they switched the way the usb connectivity worked it doesn't work well at all
get a usb mounting app and try
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A USB mounting app? As in the auto mount?
Going to test out Meridian in a few but I would love to see someone emulate the iPod interface so that our phones will work with any and all "Crapple" devices.
Does anyone know of a bluetooth a2dp gateway that auto-pairs with the N1 when power up?
I've tried Sony and Belkin and heard that the Blackberry gateway all fail to do so (although on the Droid forums some people say the Blackberry does auto-pair).
I had a similar and short lived thread in Q&A, sorry for the 2nd attempt!
I tried at least 4 product from stereo headset to car adapter. I find that nexus requires that the device to support HSP for the auto-connect to work.
I only wish that someone could implement custom media streaming over bluetooth for the rest of us.
look for a device with the following profiles HSP/A2DP/AVRCP.
I'm currently using Kensington LiquidAUX K33428 Bluetooth and it works great. It auto-connects 95% of the time.
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I tried at least 4 product from stereo headset to car adapter. I find that nexus requires that the device to support HSP for the auto-connect to work.
I only wish that someone could implement custom media streaming over bluetooth for the rest of us.
look for a device with the following profiles HSP/A2DP/AVRCP.
I'm currently using Kensington LiquidAUX K33428 Bluetooth and it works great. It auto-connects 95% of the time.
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Thanks for the quick reply.
How does the audio quality compare to the others that you tried. Does the Kensington support A2DP only? I don't want it taking all my phone calls as well.
The Blackberry definitely does not auto-connect, at least with my Nexus One. The strange thing is, it auto-connects with my Palm Pre Plus every time.
It's one of the most annoying things to me about the Nexus, opening up Bluetooth Settings and having to manually connect to it every time I get in the car is actually a pain, compared to the Palm where I just get in and it's connected.
I was actually wondering if there was an app or some kind of service I could start up that would auto-connect to bluetooth devices. Does anyone know of anything like that?
I'm using a Samsung WEP870. Works just fine with my Nexus One. I am running CM6 RC3 on it, nothing other than that.
I use the Bluetooth A2DP for listening all day to podcasts & other media.
As soon as I place the headset on and power it up, it connects to the Nexus One. No problems.
I have a Sony BT5100 car radio and with stock android (or any non sense android rom) the phone automatically connected to the radio. I guess the later Sony models will be doing the same.
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Does anyone know of a bluetooth a2dp gateway that auto-pairs with the N1 when power up?
I've tried Sony and Belkin and heard that the Blackberry gateway all fail to do so (although on the Droid forums some people say the Blackberry does auto-pair).
I had a similar and short lived thread in Q&A, sorry for the 2nd attempt!
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Try BlueAnt S1
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Try BlueAnt S1
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I think the S1 only plays music through its own speaker. Can it output to the car through aux?
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The Blackberry definitely does not auto-connect, at least with my Nexus One. The strange thing is, it auto-connects with my Palm Pre Plus every time.
It's one of the most annoying things to me about the Nexus, opening up Bluetooth Settings and having to manually connect to it every time I get in the car is actually a pain, compared to the Palm where I just get in and it's connected.
I was actually wondering if there was an app or some kind of service I could start up that would auto-connect to bluetooth devices. Does anyone know of anything like that?
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As far as I know android doesn't allow for anything other than manual pairing when it comes to non HSP (headset profile) devices. I read this on their documentation page.
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As far as I know android doesn't allow for anything other than manual pairing when it comes to non HSP (headset profile) devices. I read this on their documentation page.
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Lame.
What happened to it being an 'Open' OS? Seems like something an application should be able to fix.
I just took delivery of the new ASUS Connect Dock, purchased from Amazon.de for €75.15.
I also own the keyboard dock but find the latching system a bit awkward for everyday use as a desktop top docking/charging system. I'd been looking for something like this for a while. It had already been discussed in another thread and on a chance I placed the order. At the time it said that delivery would be in 4-6 weeks. I was quite surprised when I got a message to say that the item I had always thought of as "vapour-ware", was set for delivery on the 17th of October. Well, it's the 16th today and I'm happy to say it's here.
As you can see from the pictures below it's quite small but fits the tablet perfectly without any real drag on the plug being felt either when docking or undocking.
When I first docked I had the LAN cable and power cables plugged in and the TF700 immediately recognised the dock, connectd to the LAN via DHCP and proceeded to charge. I found that the notification bar now had a few new icons, one of which was for the LAN. Tapping this icon brought up a settings page which gave me the option to use a DHCP or Static IP connection. Once I had configured a static IP I had a button which said CONNECT appear, which when touched connected with the new parameters. All was well. :good:
I next tried to connect one of the two USB ports to my PC to see if it would be recognised but obviously they are OTG and cannot be used for a data connection for transfer of files from the PC - no fastboot or ADB. Connecting a USB memory key needed the use of the mount option under Settings-Storage before it would connect. The same was true for when I tried my 1Tb HardDisk. Once mounted both worked as expected. I imagine that connecting a mouse and keyboard would be a no brainer. I can't verify this or that a wireless setup would work.
It is rather expensive for what it is and has a few shortcomings - no HDMI port, no USB data pass-through - but it does do its intended job well. There is a supposed amplified audio-out port but I have not tried this yet. I have no idea whether it is connected internally via USB or directly to the headphone socket. Maybe someone in the future may open one up and check out the internals so we can know more.
Typically I like accessories and this adds to the kit nicely.
Cheers,
Eric
EDIT: I tried the USB HardDisk again and this time it was recognised immediately and opened Filemanager. I was able to watch a movie directly from the drive which I guess means that the USB ports are also powered. I'm even happier now!
very nice, if only it had hdmi
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eckka said:
When I first docked I had the LAN cable and power cables plugged in and the TF700 immediately recognised the dock, connectd to the LAN via DHCP and proceeded to charge. I found that the notification bar now had a few new icons, one of which was for the LAN. Tapping this icon brought up a settings page which gave me the option to use a DHCP or Static IP connection. Once I had configured a static IP I had a button which said CONNECT appear, which when touched connected with the new parameters. All was well. :good:
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If you use a USB Ethernet adapter, you'll see the exact same notifications. Just FYI.
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very nice, if only it had hdmi
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Indeed, that is what I am really waiting for - that would earn the name "Connect dock" for sure
i can't see your pictures - and very much would like to! i'm seeing a section for thumbnails on your post, but no actual thumbnails in it
UPDATE: reloaded the page a bunch of times and the pics showed up - thanks for sharing! it's WAY smaller than i thought it would be. smells like a perfect thing to use on your bed table to turn your 700 into a clock replacement overnight (gotta keep these geek tech assets working 24x7!!!!!). seems pricey for what you get, but i think i'll grab one when they hit the states.
doody.
Damn,
I really want this if it does connect reliably thru USB to any PC.
Thats OK said:
Damn,
I really want this if it does connect reliably thru USB to any PC.
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I'm guessing that you want to know if it can connect to a PC via the USB ports provided!
The short answer is NO!
It's one of the first things I tried. :crying:
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I'm guessing that you want to know if it can connect to a PC via the USB ports provided!
The short answer is NO!
It's one of the first things I tried. :crying:
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Dang it...I'm sad now...
...well not too sad
Thanks for the information. Do you know if the dock works when powered by a cigarette lighter in the car?
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Thanks for the information. Do you know if the dock works when powered by a cigarette lighter in the car?
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I haven't tried it but I'd say it would since the power input is the standard 40pin plug and that's what's on the car charger as well.
I know for certain that the tablet charges on 12V because I modified a cable from a car charger - the circuit inside contained a 12V regulator - onto a Kensington netbook charger. The only critical bit is the need to be able to provide at least 1.5A, preferably 2.0A.
I don't have the means to test it so you'll just have to believe me or wait until someone else can.
Gotcha, thanks for the reply. I wonder if the USB ports work with a hub, that could be interesting.
If only I could find a US vendor then I could try these ideas out myself.
it'll work but it wont say its charging and will take forever to gain any charge
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Asus drives me nuts!
http://www.asus.com/Peripherals_Accessories/Eee_Pad_Accessories/Connect_Dock/#overview
Above is the link for the dock, yet these Asus people offer no info on how to actually obtain the frigging thing.
There's got to be a factory somewhere in Taipei that's stamping these things out by the pallet loads every hour.
I hate this "dangle a neat-o accessory over a pond full of hungry fish" attitude then let 'em starve!
Damn them!
Network
I have a USB Ethernet. Assuming dock Ethernet works the same......
The tablet connects to the LAN on which the Ethernet exists
Using a file explorer (I use ES File Explorer) I can log onto the LAN via the Ethernet (also works via WiFi).
So long as the required shares are set up back at the PC, there is no problem accessing, copying, deleting etc.
I have even played movies which exist on my media server on The LAN, via WiFi, and watched them on the tablet. Not totally smooth but easily watchable as I fall asleep in bed!
Simples!
Regards to all
Ian Wilson
And, forgot to mention.... I have a USB HD which connects fine through the USB on the keyboard dock - power and data - no problem.
printer
It would be great if yo could hook up a printer to the dock
hillyard said:
It would be great if yo could hook up a printer to the dock
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You can use Google Cloud Print to print wirelessly from the Tablet. If your printer supports Cloud Print directly (not that many do) you can set this up very easily, and no PC connection is required - only an internet connection for the printer. If your printer doesn't support it directly, you can still set it up and print to it, but it requires your PC to be on and connected (cable or WiFi) to the printer.
This is actually a pretty slick option - works from my Samsung Galaxy Nexus and probably most other Android phones.
If anyone has any info on a US release date, I would appreciate it. Calling ASUS did not help because they weren't even aware of this dock. They kept insisting I was referring to the keyboard dock.
Maybe Asus will bring the Connect Dock to the US for the holidays. I would really prefer one of these next to my bed than the tab in its keyboard dock!
Come On Asus!!!
Midnitte said:
very nice, if only it had hdmi
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Indeed, that is what I am really waiting for - that would earn the name "Connect dock" for sure
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Does the TF700 have the ability to route HDMI through the dock connector? I mean is the wiring in place, I ask because it would seem that they would have forgone a dedicated port if so and used a modified MHL connection?
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Does the TF700 have the ability to route HDMI through the dock connector? I mean is the wiring in place, I ask because it would seem that they would have forgone a dedicated port if so and used a modified MHL connection?
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Having looked at the threads which discuss the pinout configuration for the 40pin connector I can say that it doesn't like there are any connections to HDMI available. There is no passthrough for HDMI on this dock and since it doesn't look like the connector has the pins that it would be pretty sure that it's not possible.
What is the difference between docked and charging? I know DayDream supports differentiating between this two, and so does Tasker.
Is there a special "charger" that will trigger this "dock" for Nexus 5?
Dock is when you dock the phone in a dock. Charging is when you charge the phone via wireless or usb cable. Clues in the name really
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Dock is when you dock the phone in a dock. Charging is when you charge the phone via wireless or usb cable. Clues in the name really
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I guess I should rephrase my question:
So what are the available docks that can work with Nexus 5?
Errr the ones that come up in the Google search "nexus 5 docks"
Have a look In the accessories forum, there may be some comparisons there or something. Why do you want a dock?
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Errr the ones that come up in the Google search "nexus 5 docks"
Have a look In the accessories forum, there may be some comparisons there or something. Why do you want a dock?
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I did google search, just trying to understand the technical side. For example this:
http://www.kidigi.com/product_lv2.php?pid=1508
Is this considered a dock? or just charging?
I want a dock so that I can set up tasker profile for different cases, just like day dream, to show when is docked, but not show when its charging.
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I did google search, just trying to understand the technical side. For example this:
http://www.kidigi.com/product_lv2.php?pid=1508
Is this considered a dock? or just charging?
I want a dock so that I can set up tasker profile for different cases, just like day dream, to show when is docked, but not show when its charging.
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i tried a couple of different car docks that triggered dock mode on other phones such as s3, gnex, & htc one but they didnt do anything other than charge the n5.
i'm not sure if the n5 supports dock mode triggered via usb
I don't think the Nexus 5 has a dock mode at all. Your best bet would be to buy any dock, even a charging dock, and get put an NFC sticker on it...
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I did google search, just trying to understand the technical side. For example this:
http://www.kidigi.com/product_lv2.php?pid=1508
Is this considered a dock? or just charging?
I want a dock so that I can set up tasker profile for different cases, just like day dream, to show when is docked, but not show when its charging.
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I bought the "dock" that you link to. It is advertised as a docking station but when I got it it clearly says "charging cradle". I paid $25 for an $8 desktop charger. I already had a "cradle charger" at work. When I plug in my phone at work it just displays the desktop, which is what I want. My plan was to have a bedside "dock" with "daydream" enabled, with a very dim night time alarm clock. In "settings", "display", "daydream" I wanted to set "when to daydream" to "while docked". This is the big advantage of having an actual "docking charger" besides just a "charger".
You hare HELP personified lol.
About OP, I know from other phones that some configuration in the microUSB pins trigger the dock mode as well as car mode, but first of all the OS has to have it implemented. Some HTC, by example my old HTC one S, have a car mode which is triggered by both official car cradle and a special homemade microUSB with pins differently mapped.
About docks, only ones I know are philips fidelio, great options
I don't believe the Nexus 5 supports a "dock" mode at all. I've tried using a car mount(iBolt) that is built with the pin connection to trigger dock mode that worked with a HTC Evo LTE but with the Nexus it's just a charger. Had to re-write some of my Tasker profiles to get things working correctly again.
So the dock is actually triggered by something in the usb pins.
Pardon my noobness because I have never had a phone that I can trigger the "dock" mode before.
Recently I read about this:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/create-your-own-magnetic-dock-for-the-google-nexus-5/
So at first I thought there's something about the hidden magnets that triggers the dock mode, but couldn't find more information about it. Seems like now its just to hold the phone in place and don't do anything.
So I assume the Philips Fidelio also should not trigger this?
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So the dock is actually triggered by something in the usb pins.
Pardon my noobness because I have never had a phone that I can trigger the "dock" mode before.
Recently I read about this:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/create-your-own-magnetic-dock-for-the-google-nexus-5/
So at first I thought there's something about the hidden magnets that triggers the dock mode, but couldn't find more information about it. Seems like now its just to hold the phone in place and don't do anything.
So I assume the Philips Fidelio also should not trigger this?
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Only the nexus 7 has dock pins and can use this feature.
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I've been reading about this a bit and it looks like the OS probably still has "dock support", but out of the box the phone has no way to trigger it.
Supposedly if you run
Code:
am broadcast -a android.intent.action.DOCK_EVENT --ei android.intent.extra.DOCK_STATE 2
from the terminal (or `adb shell`) you'll make the phone think it's hooked up to a car dock. (I think state "0" is no dock, and "1" is desk dock)
I plan to play with it today. If it works, it should be possible to automate it or make a home-screen shortcut with Script Manager or similar. I guess you could probably also trigger it from an NFC tag? Not sure how those work, still reading.
Ghengis042 said:
I've been reading about this a bit and it looks like the OS probably still has "dock support", but out of the box the phone has no way to trigger it.
Supposedly if you run
Code:
am broadcast -a android.intent.action.DOCK_EVENT --ei android.intent.extra.DOCK_STATE 2
from the terminal (or `adb shell`) you'll make the phone think it's hooked up to a car dock. (I think state "0" is no dock, and "1" is desk dock)
I plan to play with it today. If it works, it should be possible to automate it or make a home-screen shortcut with Script Manager or similar. I guess you could probably also trigger it from an NFC tag? Not sure how those work, still reading.
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That would be great if this works via NFC. I bought my wife a Nex5 to replace her old (Don't laugh) Droid3, but the dock for that gave her a nice alarm clock when docked. I've kluged in similar functionality via tasker, a NFC tag on the Tylt Vu, and settings in the clock app, but it would be great to do this in a more "native" fashion.
Eskimo128 said:
That would be great if this works via NFC. I bought my wife a Nex5 to replace her old (Don't laugh) Droid3, but the dock for that gave her a nice alarm clock when docked. I've kluged in similar functionality via tasker, a NFC tag on the Tylt Vu, and settings in the clock app, but it would be great to do this in a more "native" fashion.
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I tried the command I pasted earlier and got a permissions error -- looks like that method requires root. Once you have root, though, you could run it via an automation app and it sounds like it would work fine. It might also be that the Tasker task you set up is using the same actual process (sending that system message) under the hood.
Eskimo128 said:
Droid3, but the dock for that gave her a nice alarm clock when docked. I've kluged in similar functionality via tasker, a NFC tag on the Tylt Vu, and settings in the clock app, but it would be great to do this in a more "native" fashion.
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Yeah this is what I thought. Have Day Dream comes up with Clock only when Docked, not Charging. Seems it doesn't work.
ykphuah said:
Yeah this is what I thought. Have Day Dream comes up with Clock only when Docked, not Charging. Seems it doesn't work.
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I installed "Dock Clock (night clock) instead of using the daydream, and had it launch with NFC. But since it's on for hours, I figured charging while it was running would be a necessity.
Hey,
I was thinking... there is any chance that the Switch dock works with the S8 like the DeX official accessory?
NO.
Not even the same thing. Just simply no, it will not work.
xile6 said:
NO.
Not even the same thing. Just simply no, it will not work.
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Thats like saying "I wonder if the S8 will connect bluetooth to my vacuum cleaner" lol
takato23 said:
Hey,
I was thinking... there is any chance that the Switch dock works with the S8 like the DeX official accessory?
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lol hell no are you really being serious asking this question
Aside from all the snide comments, there is a possibility. The Switch connection to the dock is USB-C which carries power and HDMI. If the Switch is using standard USB-C spec functions for this, then there is a possibility. The weak point is likely Samsung not supporting USB-C for video and not using USB Power Delivery standard. So, I'd say there is a slight possibility, but not likely.
Very possible. 10 years ago I was able to connect a purple dildo with arcane lightning bolt accents via bluetooth or NFC to a Nokia 3310 then there is a chance.
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Very possible. 10 years ago I was able to connect a purple dildo with arcane lightning bolt accents via bluetooth or NFC to a Nokia 3310 then there is a chance.
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So is that an unhelpful sarcastic response or an example of current dildo intercommunication standards? So hard to tell these days...
faded03cobra said:
Very possible. 10 years ago I was able to connect a purple dildo with arcane lightning bolt accents via bluetooth or NFC to a Nokia 3310 then there is a chance.
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That is majorly old school man lol I remember my nokia 6600 "GAIT" phone that could switch between gsm and tdma on Cingular and that was groundbreaking tech at that time. I got 480 talk minutes for $60 and no data. Remember what a big deal the RAZR was? People claimed it was bulletproof
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Thats like saying "I wonder if the S8 will connect bluetooth to my vacuum cleaner" lol
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So, a legitimate question then.
Control your Roomba with your phone via Bluetooth.
Hahaha, I don't know why is so absurd my question. It is an usb-c port with one usb and hdmi out. It could perfectly work
no one tried this?
nobody plays the switch
Hello,
I did try this using a small USB C extension and it did not seem to work.
KMyers said:
Hello,
I did try this using a small USB C extension and it did not seem to work.
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Why using an extension? You couldnt put it on the dock directly?
I tried it, and was not able to get the phone in there.. gave up after 2 tiny scratches on my connector.
takato23 said:
Why using an extension? You couldnt put it on the dock directly?
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The switch dock has 2 plastic guide pins to line up the switch to the USB port. The extension cable bypasses these pins allowing anything to be plugged in. The extension was short enough to do the trick while also not long enough to degrade the connection ( https://www.amazon.com/RIITOP-USB-C...cz-20&linkId=962289736eacd9427405820e024a2a39 )
I am tempted to try pairing the S8 with my Switch Dock - there was no damage to your phone after trying with the extension cable?
https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSw...m_nintendo_switch_docks_switch_con_sfans_are/
Update: Confirmed that the Nintendo Switch will not work
Ok. Confirmed that the Nintendo Switch dock will not work. First I tested the extension cable - Switch works fine with the extension cable and the dock. Extension cable outputs full 1080p and charges the Switch.
Next I tried connecting the S8 to the extension cable - I see the display flicker - but no reaction from the S8 - except that the phone starts charging. Cannot even start screen mirroring - it does not appear to recognize the switch as a display output at all.
No ill effects to either dock or phone. Did not leave devices connected for too long.
I wonder how the CF001 is able to mimic both docks? If the Nintendo dock worked, I would have willingly paid the $100 for the official one...
Yeah I am curious because I am researching some dex options and I see Ebay has a generic Dex station that doubles as a switch dock... since I have a switch and a Note 8, it would be awesome to be able to utilize the same dock as needed.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/HDMI-Dex-S...235194?hash=item362671effa:g:atwAAOSwovNaF42M
Anyone know if this would even work? It's only $28.
It specifically says "HDMI Dex Station Desktop"
Edit:
I just bought this from Amazon for $29 with Free same day shipping:
https://www.amazon.com/Portable-Nin...id=1515685969&sr=1-6&keywords=switch+dex+dock
Reviews says it works great for Dex and the Nintendo switch, so I can use it for double duty. It's coming today, so I'll throw up a small review here.
then why does ebay sell a dex dock same as switch... even pix of switch and note 8 in same unit?
HDMI-Dex-Station-Desktop-Extension-Charging-Dock-For-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-8-S8/152748261755?epid=19007441379&hash=item239081817b:g:vxIAAOSwevdZ5xNa
Maybe
So I thought the same thing because they use the same ports and there are third party focks that support both switch and the s8 so all tge people saying its a stupid idea are wrong BUT the switch dock is designed so a switch can get in easily and getting an s8 there is nearly impossible if you dont cut the front i have both s8 and switch and i tryed but i got no luck getting it in so yea...