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Just released, Netfront 3.5. It rocks!!

There's a free trial of their completely redesigned 3.5 concept version web browser:
http://www.access-company.com/products/netfrontmobile/browser/35_wm_tp.html
I've been playing around with it tonight and I'm very impressed. It basically has all the speed advantages of Opera Mini in a proxy-less browser. The page rendering is very fast in full desktop view, with a cool full page view for quickly navigating to the desired section. The scrolling is momentum based, just like the iphone. Even with huge web pages, the scrolling remains smooth and it allows you to browse the page easily while it is still loading.
Go download it and check it out. I think you guys will be impressed.

nswenson said:
There's a free trial of their completely redesigned 3.5 concept version web browser:
http://www.access-company.com/products/netfrontmobile/browser/35_wm_tp.html
I've been playing around with it tonight and I'm very impressed. It basically has all the speed advantages of Opera Mini in a proxy-less browser. The page rendering is very fast in full desktop view, with a cool full page view for quickly navigating to the desired section. The scrolling is momentum based, just like the iphone. Even with huge web pages, the scrolling remains smooth and it allows you to browse the page easily while it is still loading.
Go download it and check it out. I think you guys will be impressed.
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have tried this today, impressions so far:-
using WiFi - WOW
using GPRS - soooooo slow
have to say it, this is brill but for day to day gonna have to stick with opera mini.
Chris

I didn't consider network speed requirements. My sprint connection is very fast on the HTC Vogue. the good thing about opera mini is the proxy helps with slow connections.

Got this last night and used it for a few hours and i must admit it is growing on me.
At first I thought opera mini was far better (and still is on grps/edge) but this is nice.
The only thing i dont like is the zoom. for me it would be nicer if the full page were full screen like mini, but that is only personal preference. it is quite good that you can see full size what you are looking at behind the zoom.
Not sure yet whether it is opera mini or Netfront for me yet (Netfront doent yet support plugins, but can be a default browser and does support links and downloads) but having it available until the end of march will certainly give us something to play with until Opera 9.5 arrives and really gives us all a challenge to decide.

it works well and has the advantage of default browser capability... but aside from links and downloads i like opera mini better, because it's more responsive and a whole lot faster / more accurate

I just started it:
At the default homepage the CPU usage is next to 0%.
But when I minimize netfront, it stays at 100%!!

Hello,i tried NetFront today and I think it is amazing, but i only tested on wifi and i don't succeed to connect me on gprs, yet I have entered the proxy address 195.115.25.168 from of operator: SFR (from france).
Can you help me please?

tested and feels better than opera mobile 8.65! zoom is also cool although not so cool like in opera mini 4..

It rocks on my touch....
But how to quick zoom the pages??

darkf0rce said:
Hello,i tried NetFront today and I think it is amazing, but i only tested on wifi and i don't succeed to connect me on gprs, yet I have entered the proxy address 195.115.25.168 from of operator: SFR (from france).
Can you help me please?
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I can't get it to work on wifi, can somebody explain how to..
nice browser on gprs/3g though. but i would like wifi also
tnx in advance,
Marcel van blankers

flaviopac said:
It rocks on my touch....
But how to quick zoom the pages??
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Double tap on the screen or press the centre of the Dpad twice very quickly.

JwY said:
Double tap on the screen or press the centre of the Dpad twice very quickly.
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Thank you!!

This is the best browser which I have never seen.....
Very fast, stable on my Touch and it has lots of functions...
I can scroll all the pages with my finger, both horizontal and vertical ways...
And remember...
This is only a BETA!!!

o like the autocruise thingie. very very nice browser

This really might be the best browser out.
My settings for the fastest/best page viewing:
Browsing Mode: Simple
Display Mode: Normal
Zoom: 75%
Virtual Canvas: 1024x1024
It seems to be good on memory usage so far too.

Very cool
Very cool browser but its slow on AT&T's edge/gprs

can you watch youtube on it?
can you watch youtube using netfront?? or other videos from websites?

Phenomenal performance on wifi...seems to be a bit of a memory hog, but light years better than PIE...

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can you watch youtube using netfront?? or other videos from websites?
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No flash support as of yet, so no youtube. The web 2.0 sites work though. I tried out google maps and it actually worked, but very slow.

Anybody knows if they will release a smartphone version? I Guess this version isn't compatible with WM6 standard?

new beowser client Teashark

Hi guys take a look at this
http://teashark.com/index.html
just tryed it has some bugs but it is very promising
portrait to landscape on my vox turns in less than a second
it as tabs with preview and it is very responsive....
SSL connections do work well also.
It's based on Webkit the same engine that moves Safari 3.
and i forgot to say that is free

How did you get it to work when the site says that it is not for Windows Mobile at the moment?
Roland

Hey Rolandh did you notice that your signature has a typo

It's a jad/jar file so it works perfectly on esmertec Jbed...like operamini.etc...
simply Point your WAP browser at wap.teashark.com.
or download TeaShark from your PC and transfer it to your phone: http://teashark.com/download.html

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Hey Rolandh did you notice that your signature has a typo
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Yeah I did, just not got round to correcting it yet lol

Meh. It looks really good with the panning and cursor but the font isn't configurable. I really like the way the history and back works with be able to jump all the way back or just a few pages using the preview icon. That is really good.
When it comes out of BETA, it's going to be great.

its strange this program is SO similar to opera mini, even the menus are almost the same. its either a copied version of opera mini, or a modded version of it! hmmm..

Well, it's based on Web Kit, so it aint just a copy!

This browser is great!!
I didn't notice that many bug. I reported one regarding the full azerty keyboard : some keys won't work as expected.
I'm not sure why but the fonts really look ugly when I run Java applications (so same with opera mini); is there any way to enable some anti aliasing or something similar ?

I think this is a very cool browser.

If you have problems with your qwerty keyboard, select edit when entering an adress It will work like this.
For the fonts and antialiasing, I guess you are running JBed - Build 20071119.3.1. If so, antialiasing it`s not working.
Other than that, it is an interestng browser. Let`s say it might be a competition in the future for Opera mini.

best browsing experience on touch pro

hey guys, i was thoroughly disappointed with opera mobiles performance.. it really sucked (for me at least). Page would take a long time to open, and the windows would move all over the place while the page was loading, etc. Anyways, i finally decided to download opera mini and its a world of a difference, its amazing! however to do it correctly, follow this guys advise:
http://mobilitysite.com/2008/06/running-opera-mini-41-on-windows-mobile-2/
dont just go to operamini.com and download the version they tell you, because then you have to agree to that message everytime you go to a page. if you do it the way this guy says, you only have to give permission the first time you open opera. he also shows you a way to have it as a program, eliminating the need to open the jbed java app to launch from there.
another thing i did, is because our device is vga, the font was small. i set it to extra large, and its very good. even the scrolling is much better on the mini version, and ITS MUCH FASTER!! i cant emphasize the last one enough. anyways, just wanted to let u guys know, good luck
ps: also, something that is huge for me, typing something into a webpage is also much better now. on opera mobile, i would have to try to fit the screen size so i can see what i'm typing; with opera mini, it opens a new window for you to t ype in, it's like your typing in word or something. makes a huge difference IMO
omar

I couldn't agree more.
Unless something is wrong with just my phone, I can't see how anyone would like Opera Mobile.
Just open any forum page here. Probably takes 20-30 seconds to load on Opera Mobile on a fast Wifi connection...and that's after it takes 5-10 seconds to just load up.
Do it on Opera Mini and it takes maybe 2 on a 1x connection, even.
Opera Mini doesn't have tabs, but you are saving so much time elsewhere, that's livable.
It also runs through a proxy, so I guess you could get stale pages or https stuff won't work great.
But, for 95% of the browsing I do, Mini works perfectly and is unbelievably fast and it's clear on the vga screen.
I also chose Extra Large fonts.
If you decide to use Opera Mini, here's a way to make it the "default" for opening links.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=384271

Have you guys tried the newer version of Skyfire? If so, do you like Mini better?

ya i use mini much more than mobile
btw just download this zip, extract cab and install it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=113596&d=1221663410
it will ask if u want to make mini default browser...also installs java if u dont have it.
i change my image quality to high and font to biggest settings

I'm using UCWEB6 and I'm quite satisfied. Fast enough, tabbed browsing, easy to use..

yeah, im done using opera mobile, mini works so good!
i also use piscel and sometimes skyfire if im next to an ac jack... ill use ie just as i do on desktop, BUSINESS ONLY!

I used Opera Mobile for about a minute....
Help: I am having a problem with Mini not fully loading pages and getting white screens. I have Jbed 2.1 (read it was better than the newest version) and the newest Mini. Any advise?

I love the speed of Mini (thanks for posting the download link), but even on extra large the text is very very small. Is there a way to make it show up bigger?

XL3N7 said:
I'm using UCWEB6 and I'm quite satisfied. Fast enough, tabbed browsing, easy to use..
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Are you using the generic version? Seems like UCWEB6 was made for Nokia devices not HTC

Another opera mini fan here, the fastest browser I have used, that includes skyfire. Only issue is lack of tabs, but otherwise its great

hchavarria said:
Are you using the generic version? Seems like UCWEB6 was made for Nokia devices not HTC
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No, I'm using this one. It says ppc2003 but it's working fine on all my devices, supports both VGA and QVGA

im using a mix of ucweb and operamini.. loving it. the only thing wrong with this phone is the lack of softkeys.. makes browsing with mini a little harder..

I've been using the "vga" version of skyfire since it came out, and I love it for its full browsing experience, speed, and ability to watch video in the browser.

Thank you for this thread!
I never used opera mini before and I was amazed by it's speed. It's not going to be my default browser (that's still PIE because I almost only view sites which are optimized for mobile devices) but it's absolutely perfect for viewing this forum for example!

XL3N7 said:
No, I'm using this one. It says ppc2003 but it's working fine on all my devices, supports both VGA and QVGA
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This crashed for me. Whole device froze up.

Opera Mobile.. it's just CRAP compared to Opera Mini.
CONS Opera Mobile:
- load time (HTC/Opera cheat by preloading Opera at StartUp)
- lots of squares while dragging
- many times while you drag the stupid software cannot make difference between dragging and tapping
- if you drag the page and the page is still loading, you are dropped to other position that you are.. this is so annoying.. you have to drag again or wait until all the page elements are loaded by the browser
So, Opera Mini is very good on the majority of sites. (there are problem with the pages with many images, it cannot handle all of them).
I'm using a VGA version of jbed and I don't have problem with font size ANYMORE.
Big thanks to trueg. Get it from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2973176&postcount=23

if i'm not mistaken, the reason why opera mini is so fast is because the pages are actually cached or pre-processed by Opera servers and then sent to you. with Opera mobile, you connect to the website directly.

Lorrimer said:
This crashed for me. Whole device froze up.
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That's very strange. It works great on my Blueangel, Wizard, Universal, Trinity and Raphael with all the custom roms I have installed on them and with the shipped rom on the Raphael the first day I got it.
Try installing on the SD card or the device memory, whichever you haven't tried.

Still have to say yes
Anyone else having issues with still having to click yes every time you try and go to a site? If I exit and open, the first time I try to open I get this annoying request. Followed the directions exactly and had no problems?
Also can't seem to browse with this on wifi, anyone else having this issue?

cparkhorn said:
Anyone else having issues with still having to click yes every time you try and go to a site?
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Yes, I have the same issue. But since I just have to click ok once in every session it's ok for me.

Skyfire or opera mobile

This is my question
IS THE LATEST SKYFIRE FASTER,BETTER,SEXIER(lol) THAN THE LATEST OPERA MOBILE!!!!??????

bstylz911 said:
This is my question
IS THE LATEST SKYFIRE FASTER,BETTER,SEXIER(lol) THAN THE LATEST OPERA MOBILE!!!!??????
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Not for me
I´m with Opera!!

orb3000 said:
Not for me
I´m with Opera!!
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WHY??
skyfires startup time BEATS operas hands down
PLUS skyfire allows u to watch flash video and is flash enabled
unlike the newest opera which doesnt even support flash

Skyfire is QVGA, and looks quite bad on VGA. However, I haven't tried Opera Mini on VGA - can anyone comment?

bstylz911 said:
WHY??
skyfires startup time BEATS operas hands down
PLUS skyfire allows u to watch flash video and is flash enabled
unlike the newest opera which doesnt even support flash
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Agreed. Also SkyFire's browsing & scrolling is absolutely far superior to Opera. The only thing SkyFire is missing is options - it only as about 6, while Opera has about 600. But it's only 1.0, those things will eventually make their way into the browser.

Skyfire for me is faster than opera mobile, and i use it for flash videos.
The only laggy thing i think is the scrolling, that in Opera is better.
However if you don't need to see flash content...skyfire is useless, i use UCWEB of NetFront

You should see Skyfire on HD ^^' Opera Mobile is better but no flash...
D'rath

D'rath said:
You should see Skyfire on HD ^^' Opera Mobile is better but no flash...
D'rath
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I want to try it out too. He he he... But from the supports page on their website it says it supports WVGA as well.
Are they telling us fibs. Can you post any screen shots of what it looks like on your HD?
Love to see flash videos (not just You Tube) on my WinMo.

well i did a test on both skyfire and opera on the loading times
skyfire took 14 sec. to load 1src.com
and opera only 10 sec. to load 1src.com
anyone else wanna test?

Opera Mobile, Opera Mini, Skyfire, Mach5, PIE
I have posted something similar somewhere else, however I think this is valid...
We have two different types of browser available
Client side (which means your browser on you PPC/HTC does all the work) or Server side (which means a fast computer somewhere does all the work and sends your PPC pictures of what is happening)
Client Side positives
You decide settings
You install all your favourite add-ons (flash etc)
You keep all you log-on settings
The rendering and compatability is what you install/set (also could be a negative if you aren't competent here)
Server Side positives
Your PPC doesn't need to install anything extra (flash etc), as it's all done on server side
All rendering is done by Server side, so it's simply plug n' play!!
And the negatives (which usually make the choice on such small devices as PPC)
Client Side
Usually takes up memory to install all plug-ins required to visit different sited on the web (eg, flash) (i.e, the more you have installed your PPC, the more compatible it will be with more web sites/pages)
Slows the computer, and takes up memory to render the page (everything needs to be downloaded and processed)
Server Side
You're at the hands of the server (is it set up for QVGA/VGA, how does it input text etc)
The fastest it works is by sending you pictures (whereas you may have a dedicated flash player, such as TCPMP etc)
Your log-on settings are kept by the server (someone else)
The rendering is only as good as the server
The server may be in a different locale to you
The connection takes the bottle-neck (i.e, the faster your connection, the better videos will be - you really need a contract/cost limit on your data downloads!)
So as for Skyfire is "Server Side". Skyfire renders as QVGA (even though it does work on VGA, it doesn't look any good).
Opera is Client Side. This means it really can't really be compared to Skyfire in the same way as, say, Mach5 could... but could be compared to PIE.
However, Opera Mini is Server Side - and I think there's some great advances are now there. Anyone comment on Opera Mini compared to Skyfire?

However, Opera Mini is Server Side - and I think there's some great advances are now there. Anyone comment on Opera Mini compared to Skyfire?
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i have to say that opera mini is truly fast but i ALSO LOVE BOLT and UCWEB
BOLT- best feature is the split screen. good for large pages
UCWEB- has features like multiple tabs

Opera for me,...Skyfire looks terrible on my hd and is slow as heck,....+ I watch porn on my laptop as it has a bigger screen ;-)

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+ I watch porn on my laptop as it has a bigger screen ;-)
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lol i was gonna say the extacly same thing but i was like naw lol
i tried watchin it on skyfire and the load time was really quick

bstylz911 said:
lol i was gonna say the extacly same thing but i was like naw lol
i tried watchin it on skyfire and the load time was really quick
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LOL, Ive tried skyfire a few times (different builds) but have never been impressed with it. It worked well on my n96 (about the only thing that did)

cocoaju said:
I want to try it out too. He he he... But from the supports page on their website it says it supports WVGA as well.
Are they telling us fibs. Can you post any screen shots of what it looks like on your HD?
Love to see flash videos (not just You Tube) on my WinMo.
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Screens in *.png aren't mine (I cannot make shoots of my Display) but you could see page rendering output.
On HD Skyfire is horrible... I use IE with flash: it's slow, few optimized but make similar PC...
D'rath

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Screens in *.png aren't mine (I cannot make shoots of my Display) but you could see page rendering output.
On HD Skyfire is horrible... I use IE with flash: it's slow, few optimized but make similar PC...
D'rath
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Thanks mate. Wow! That is fxxking ugly man! Not going to touch that with barge pole. Saves from downloading it.
I guess I have to wait till IE6 comes out. Maybe that will be better contender?

HD
On my Touch HD i prefer Opera. I only use Skyfire for flash based sites. Even for YouTube i prefer the specific application rather than Skyfire. May be my comments are not so scientific but i feel Opera more smooth and nice looking overall.

Exellent explanation -Jonny-!!!

i could see sticking with skyfire if it wasn't so stupid
skyfire.com hosts all your bookmarks and history
wtf?!?!
having to load a browser page just to see my bookmarks
it takes forever...huge fail
flash is nice...but absolutely ZERO speedtest pages load
i must have tried about 20 on google search for speed tests - all failed with 404
other than that
opera mini - no text selection...and no flash...7mbps+
opera beta - no flash - navigating the zoom frustrates me often (turbo is fast)
i'm on a htc 6800 (mogul/titan)
having more than one browser installed is such a waste of resources
i wish someone could make something that simply works...
you would think a mobile browser would be something basic & simple
i just cant see why its so complicated...but i'm not a programmer
its obvious what everyone wants but each browser only has a few qualities
i find myself using ie more...an option you can always go back to with minimal letdowns
at least its problems i can deal with and dont make me want to hurl my brick phone into a deep river along with my body tied to it
i will keep trying new browsers i havent yet though i'm not expecting much:
ucweb
bolt
mach5
pie (what is pie i've heard it mentioned but cant find any info)
any info on these browsers appreciated if anything is not obvious like basic installation or source for program.

just wanted to bump this page

Opera mobile 11 = WOW!

I've installed the new version of opera (opera mobile 11) and it is so much smoother and faster than everything else I've tried.
It is just amazing how they improved scrolling and zooming...I was using dolphin mini before, but there is just no comparison.
I wonder if they implemented some kind of hardware acceleration.
Info:
to set up opera to load pages with a "desktop view":
enter opera:config in url bar
go down to "user prefs", enter
find "Custom user-agent"
fill the blank part with:
"Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 6.1; U; en-US) Presto/2.7.62 Version/11.01"
go down and save
restart opera or reboot
EDIT
to solve cyanogenmod 7 flash crashes:
go to settings, apps, manage apps, select adobe flash, move to sd card
"Opera/9.80 (Linux; en) Presto/2.7.81 Version/11.00" is good also...maybe faster??
enjoy

I may have to give it a try.
Does text/field input still take you to a new window rather than let you populate the field on the page?

+1 The new Opera 11 is fantastic! The new version of mini is excellent too. I have both installed and I use Opera 11 primarily but if I have low signal where bandwidth may be an issue, I use Mini instead since its much faster in those cases.
Either way, both browsers are super smooth to scroll and zoom and are much nicer than any other browser I've tried for Android.

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I may have to give it a try.
Does text/field input still take you to a new window rather than let you populate the field on the page?
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No, it seems you can fill the fields directly on the page

Grandelama said:
No, it seems you can fill the fields directly on the page
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Cool.
That is the main reason I don't use Opera.
I'll have to give it a shot.

So is it time for me to dump Skyfire?

Yep opera 11 is a great improvement i like how now it will launch youtube app when i wanna see a video the old version didnt do that.
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The speed is nice. is there a way to make it the default browser and/or import favorites?

Holy... "WOW" is right.
Amazing.
Flash is excellent as well - loads fast as hell, works great. Heavy pages like newgrounds.com and this here xda forum load in a blaze.
Orientation change is very fast and smooth as well.
Text reformatting is instant.
Very, very impressed!! Amazing job, Opera!

ryusen said:
The speed is nice. is there a way to make it the default browser and/or import favorites?
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Open a website with a browser that is not the default one, click on a url link, android will ask you to set the new default browser

Is this better than Dolphin HD? THat is what I am using right now

Nothing especial
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I've tried opera 11.. I honestly have to say that it's slower than skyfire, dolphin and even firefox..... Maybe it's just my phone but it's really slow on my phone....
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bluemoon1221 said:
I've tried opera 11.. I honestly have to say that it's slower than skyfire, dolphin and even firefox..... Maybe it's just my phone but it's really slow on my phone....
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Thanks for that.. not sure if I should switch from Dolphin still...

Oh my, tremendous improvement. To see the difference, go to a page with a lot of pictures. A good test page is kevinandamanda.com. With dolphin hd I can barely scroll. With opera mobile it is really smooth.
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Super smooth and embedded videos are great.
Whoever thinks slower is nuts.

redger725 said:
Oh my, tremendous improvement. To see the difference, go to a page with a lot of pictures. A good test page is kevinandamanda.com....
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Holy Freaking Demon-Dog, Batman!

Agreed, very nice! Good find!

Definitely much smoother scrolling with stock browser on sites with lots of pictures.

WTF... why is it so fast?!? I don't have to upgrade my phone anymore, can't believe how smooth the scrolling is
Anyone having issues with flash? Seems to crash the browser everytime.