Does anyone in here have experience designing Android Apps?
I am very good with computers, very, very little programming experience, but I have an idea for an app that I would really like to create.
So how hard is the first app? I'm going to download the SDK today when i get home and do some reading and see what I can figure out..
I wish I could get someone I knew and trusted to help me out, but I'd be scared they'd try to steal my idea and cut me out of the loop...
If you have little coding knowledge then how do you expect to be able to code an application.
Agreed, if you have no programming experience then you've got no hope. Although Android apps are coded in Java (therefore a nice OO language which is fairly easy to learn) you still need experience imo.
Anyone can learn to program but it takes time and effort. Leave Android for the moment and learn Java first. A starting point would be here http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/getStarted/index.html
Once you're comfortable with Java, then move onto Android.
I also recommend you to read up on java, here's a good tutorial.
http://www.homeandlearn.co.uk/java/java.html
They use NetBeans instead of the famous and google supported Eclipse.
But you must first understand Java and programming in general.
im also interested in making an app, and have experience with java. is java the only language that you can use for android? how about jython, since my python is better than my java, it would be best to use that...
i guess i'll start by dl'ing the sdk lol
I think as long as you have an interest in it, and have some aptitude for coding, then you can learn basic programming for android pretty quickly.
I only had really basic programming knowledge, and I managed to get an Android app out - admittedly it's simple (calculation type app), but it's a starting point.
I would recommend having a look around the internet like code.google.com to check out some source code for programs similar to what you would like to write. Also the developers site http://developer.android.com/index.html has some good examples and guides - definitely worth reading.
I've been using appinventor.. I wish making a real app was this easy.. Of course it's just basic things that really nobody would buy, but it's neat to create apps without experience.
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I know very little when it comes to programming. About the extent of my programming is getting a batch file to read from a list. So where do I start if I want to look into android programming? Should I pick up a beginning java book?
I have an idea for program, so I have a goal.
not sure if books are needed anymore really
soo many sites and forums just about general programming
and also spc about developing java for android
google should be much faster then using a real book
If you are getting started with android, one thing you will need for sure is the SDK, found here.
As far as learning it goes...google has a fairly good introduction on the platform, although I am not sure it is suited for someone new to programming. I can't really help you there, except point you to the google guide if you want to try anyway.
http://developer.android.com/guide/basics/what-is-android.html
Hi Guys,
I have been visiting this site for quite a while, mainly the development forum, but have not really contributed that much due to my lack of knowledge in Android Development.
I want to change this and am interested in taking a course to learn how to develop in the Android OS.
Is anybody aware of any courses I could take that are based solely online (ie, no classroom work needed)? Bearing in mind that I have no real programming knowledge to start with so will need an "A-Z" course. I am based in the UK so UK sites would be preferential.
I have done a Google search but to be honest there are so many different companies out there I was wondering if anyone had any first hand experiences?
Cheers
You can teach yourself, find some textbooks (I won't tell you where) online and start reading, download eclipse and netbeans, do some reading about object-oriented programming and being learning the basics of java, start trying to develop applications in eclipse (you will need to download all of the appropriate SDK's, Java, Android, etc), there are plenty of starter posts called "How to program Android" etc. located on the various android forums on the net- I would suggest just jumping in and reading as much as you can. I did, I'm not a full-fledged developer, but I am now capable of programming applications and understanding source code. I need to get acquainted with GitHub now so I can actually begin working on open-source projects, and I have a ton of learning to do myself, but that will take you a long way from being a noob.
luna_c666 said:
You can teach yourself, find some textbooks (I won't tell you where) online and start reading, download eclipse and netbeans, do some reading about object-oriented programming and being learning the basics of java, start trying to develop applications in eclipse (you will need to download all of the appropriate SDK's, Java, Android, etc), there are plenty of starter posts called "How to program Android" etc. located on the various android forums on the net- I would suggest just jumping in and reading as much as you can. I did, I'm not a full-fledged developer, but I am now capable of programming applications and understanding source code. I need to get acquainted with GitHub now so I can actually begin working on open-source projects, and I have a ton of learning to do myself, but that will take you a long way from being a noob.
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Thanks for the advice. The problem with me taking it on myself is that...well...I wont do it! I have 9 or 10 Learn Linux books on my shelf and have read maybe three pages out of them.
This is why I was wondering if there was any online courses I could take, which would guide me through step by step from start to finish. I appreciate it may be more expensive this way but I feel it is the best way for me to learn
The toolset for creating Android apps while easy for a programmer to pick up, is probably not the best for first steps in programming IMHO but it can be done.
FWIW On the side of "Java" and "Android" sides, I would suggest picking up a copy of "Java in a nutshell". learning the concept of Model/View/Controller (MVC), and inhaling Google's website on Android development. Each will be useful at some point in your growth.
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Spidey01 said:
The toolset for creating Android apps while easy for a programmer to pick up, is probably not the best for first steps in programming IMHO but it can be done.
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Okay, so what do you think the best start to programming is? I really feel it is something I would love to learn. I realize it will be a big challenge...but I think I am up for it
Go for it!!!
I would recommend getting to know a bit of Java first. The Java Tutorials found on the Oracle website are an excellent place to start. I've been learning to program for Android for the past month or so, it's hard going, but very rewarding.
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Okay, so what do you think the best start to programming is? I really feel it is something I would love to learn. I realize it will be a big challenge...but I think I am up for it
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Eh, for years I have debated between Assembly and shell script depending on the goal. Programming languages are only a slice if the craft.
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I was wondering what developers thought about using eclipse. Is it easy to use or is it not. When I look online most veteran programmers say its easy to pick up but when I tried it seem kind of tough. I read an articule about it here
http://eclipseandriod.blogspot.com/
The author seem to think it was tough but easy at same time which left me confused. What do you think?
I had very few problems getting set up to develop using Eclipse for Android Development.
Perhaps if you can give some details of the problems you are experiencing we could provide some guidance.
GingerBiscuit said:
I had very few problems getting set up to develop using Eclipse for Android Development.
Perhaps if you can give some details of the problems you are experiencing we could provide some guidance.
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Same idea here. Just give some examples where you feel stuck and maybe we could help.
I think it really depends on your programming background. If you dont know Java, no IDE in the world is going to be easy to learn, however, if you do know Java and can understand how android layout are defined, then Eclipse is easy and straightforward!
Basically I dont know Java programming and Iam used to using visual tools like level editors where you can just code on the object after you place it on the screen. Are there any level editor type tools for eclipse?
The reason why Android uses Java is because the original goals of android was to make a fast spreading, open source smartphone OS that seats Google as the default search engine. Java had/has the largest community of developers. Because Android uses Java, applications can reuse lots of already written Java code saving programmers tons of time that it would've taken to rewrite in whatever other language they would have chosen.
As for a beginner trying to make an Android app -- there's no way to get around the coding. It could be much, much harder. Java's really popular and well documented language with lots of books on it. Learning it would be easier than lots of other languages they could've used.
I'm not entirely sure where I should start. I want to make a camera application which adds an image of an object to a photo being taken. I enjoy flashing ROMs and what not but as far as developing goes I'm clueless. Where should I start? Are there any trustworthy websites that can teach me the basics?
First and foremost requirement is a basic knowledge of JAVA i guess without the knowledge of JAVA its really difficult to develop apps for android....
Next is Android SDK and an IDE... My personal recomendation is Eclipse(with ADT plugin).
There is a wonderful book for android development ..more info www(dot)dummies(dot)com
I guess that book is enough to give a kick start to android development
go to developers.android.com
It is by far the best resource or learning android.
Have you done any programming before? Learning to develop for Android is no different than learning a new programming language. In this case Java.
Start by creating a hello world app. developer(dot)android(dot)com/training/basics/firstapp/index.html
The Internet is definitely your #1 source. The SDK has be used by other people quite thoroughly so even by searching something as specific as "putting an overlay image on a camera picture" will probably yield many result.
Have fun!
but be patient learning programming is really hard for me at least ...im struggling with my first language (python) for 8 months now and i dont have any results...
I have just started looking around and researching a bit on what exactly goes into app development and since I am an Android lover, clearly looking to develop Android apps. I am typically pretty good at picking this stuff up, but would like some advice and opinions on where to start. I've looked up some stuff and installed Eclipse along with AndroidSDK because that seemed like a popular choice (sound about right?). I'm not 100% certain on what I'd be developing to begin with, something basic to start would seem logical, and then move on to more advanced projects. Any suggestions? I'm willing to put the work in, but where to start? Some of the how to's I've seen are somewhat dated, even if only a year old I'm looking to start with current firmware. As far as frameworks go, are they typically a better idea to start with or should I build something myself from scratch if I'm really looking to get into this? Also, feel free to redirect me if this would fit in better under a different topic but I think it works here. Any other dev programs I should look into installing? I'm running Windows 8 and think most if not all programs should run correctly on it. Any help/advice is greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.
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Don't have any programing skill please advice me more on apps and more to use
First you have to learn Java then it will be easier for you to choose what you have to do!
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OP, you've got the right attitude so with a bit of effort in digging up answers to the basic questions you'll soon figure out what you need to do. There's no need to learn Java before creating an Android project, learning both concurrently is fine, although you'll be faced with two (kinda vertical) learning curves, but it is most definitely possible.
You've got the right software for a start, but I wouldn't worry about guides being out of date - using APIs from the older SDK versions is fine. It's hard to recommend a path without knowing your goals, but starting out depends on how much coding experience you have, and your goals. For instance, making a Hello World app in an Android activity that prints out text might be a start, then figuring out how to specify the UI (add buttons for interactivity etc), separation of concerns, et al. Or if you're interested in games, start out by drawing rectangles on screen, moving them, creating Pong.
If you're making vanilla Android apps i'd stay away from frameworks initially until you figure out the raw basics - but this probably doesn't apply for games, in which case you probably wanna pick up LibGDX or something and read a ton of blog and StackOverflow posts until you get something on the screen.
Half the trick is figuring out how to Google the right questions - if you're finding decent StackOverflow answers, you're on the right track.
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I have just started looking around and researching a bit on what exactly goes into app development and since I am an Android lover, clearly looking to develop Android apps. I am typically pretty good at picking this stuff up, but would like some advice and opinions on where to start. I've looked up some stuff and installed Eclipse along with AndroidSDK because that seemed like a popular choice (sound about right?). I'm not 100% certain on what I'd be developing to begin with, something basic to start would seem logical, and then move on to more advanced projects. Any suggestions? I'm willing to put the work in, but where to start? Some of the how to's I've seen are somewhat dated, even if only a year old I'm looking to start with current firmware. As far as frameworks go, are they typically a better idea to start with or should I build something myself from scratch if I'm really looking to get into this? Also, feel free to redirect me if this would fit in better under a different topic but I think it works here. Any other dev programs I should look into installing? I'm running Windows 8 and think most if not all programs should run correctly on it. Any help/advice is greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.
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Good to know that you're interested in Android Development.
Since you say that you have No programming experience..I suggest you go like this ...
Start with a simple basic language, like C (to know how programming generally happens)
Move on to an Object Oriented Programming Language,like C++ (to know about the concepts of Objects,Methods etc)
Start with the basics of Java
Head on to https://developer.android.com/ and read about Android App Dev Basics
Download the Android SDK from http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html and install it
Choose your favorite IDE, Eclipse or Android Studio
Start with a basic app
And Experiment !!! ANd Enjoy !! :fingers-crossed: :fingers-crossed:
I wish you All The Best !! :good: :good: :laugh:
I hope to see your first app soon ! :fingers-crossed:
I have been using teamtreehouse.com and it has been amazing. Its a paid service but for only $25 a month it has been worth it. It not only shows you from 0 skills to launched app. It also has the business side and other programs. I highly recommend it at least for 1 month so you can get started.
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I recommend you to start learning Java and not learning C/C++. Java is easy-to-learn language and you don't have to know anything about object programming, you can program in Java without that too (but please only for learning).
It won't take long time until you understand methods and so on and you can start with object oriented programing.
Imnice777 said:
I have just started looking around and researching a bit on what exactly goes into app development and since I am an Android lover, clearly looking to develop Android apps. I am typically pretty good at picking this stuff up, but would like some advice and opinions on where to start. I've looked up some stuff and installed Eclipse along with AndroidSDK because that seemed like a popular choice (sound about right?). I'm not 100% certain on what I'd be developing to begin with, something basic to start would seem logical, and then move on to more advanced projects. Any suggestions? I'm willing to put the work in, but where to start? Some of the how to's I've seen are somewhat dated, even if only a year old I'm looking to start with current firmware. As far as frameworks go, are they typically a better idea to start with or should I build something myself from scratch if I'm really looking to get into this? Also, feel free to redirect me if this would fit in better under a different topic but I think it works here. Any other dev programs I should look into installing? I'm running Windows 8 and think most if not all programs should run correctly on it. Any help/advice is greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.
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Participates in following communities as well, from there you can extract some ideas to work on
https://sellanapp.com/
http://www.newappidea.com/
niranjan94 said:
Good to know that you're interested in Android Development.
Since you say that you have No programming experience..I suggest you go like this ...
Start with a simple basic language, like C (to know how programming generally happens)
Move on to an Object Oriented Programming Language,like C++ (to know about the concepts of Objects,Methods etc)
Start with the basics of Java
Head on to https://developer.android.com/ and read about Android App Dev Basics
Download the Android SDK from http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html and install it
Choose your favorite IDE, Eclipse or Android Studio
Start with a basic app
And Experiment !!! ANd Enjoy !! :fingers-crossed: :fingers-crossed:
I wish you All The Best !! :good: :good: :laugh:
I hope to see your first app soon ! :fingers-crossed:
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Umm I think C might be a bit advanced for this guy to start off with I would say what i say to anyone wanting to get into programming is start off with python then move on to something like C# with .NET and then move to java or go straight from python to java, Java was my first language everything you said was right but i don't think throwing this guy in the deep end is a good way to get him excited about programming.
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I've programmed some with Java and recently started app development with Eclipse. I ran into trouble with "git". I thought I'd blown the environment setup, so I removed Eclipse and installed the "bundle" as suggested in a Jan 2014 thread. When I tried to start Eclipse, the subject message popped up, along with "C:\Users\Anne\AndroidDev\adt-bundle-windows-x86_64-20140321\eclipse\jre\bin\client\jvm.dll"
Is this a problem with PATH or ? I'm running Windows 7 - 64bit.
Thanks.