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Alternative to outlook.

Hello.
Is there an alternative around for outlook? both desktop and/or pda? that allows sync? (calendar, contacts and email, notes, etc...) i really hate outllook. its slow and lags alot....
if anyone have any ideas?
all the best
OliveiraJMR.

If you only want to sync your desktop, take a look at, say, IntelliSync or, to a lesser degree, mNotes.
If with an Exchange server, you can do it too.

But is there any way to use for instance thunderbird?

FinchSync allows you to syncronize Pocket Outlook with Thunderbird. It is said to syncronize contacts, appointments and tasks between Windows Mobile and Thunderbird/Sunbird.
I haven't tested it yet.
http://www.finchsync.com/
Jörg

Forgot to mention:
http://synchingthunder.sourceforge.net/
It allows one to synchronize Thunderbird installation between different computers. Not exactly what you are looking for, but it may have its uses.
(I failed to get it to work on my system though)
Jörg

Thank you.
Hi there!
First, thank you all for all your kick awnsers!!
I found another program, payware, that lets you sync pocket pc and thunderbird. its called birdie sync http://www.birdiesync.com/home.html shame it doesnt let you, for now they say, sync email...
talking about e-mail... this is exactly what i cant find!! some sort of way to sync pocket pc and thunderbird email.....any ideas?
Another idiea would be putting thunderbird to sych with an outlook.pst file and the user regular active sync...
All the best,
Joao Oliveira.
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I'm not sure if there already are applications that synchronize the emails (haven't came across any), but it will probabely come...
I also haven't found software to synchronize an Outlook (on the PC) with a ThunderBird.
Jörg

I would love to sync my contacts and appointments with GMail, is there anyway possible. I found Goosync for appointments, but nothing for the contacts file (which is what i REALLY want).
Any ideas?

Birdiesync.
Hello All!
Looks like birdiesync is now supporting e-mail sync.
So you can now actually sync windows mobile 5 with Thunderbird. It supports besides mail, calendar (using sunbird/lightning beta) calendar and tasks.
I'm still testing it.. they have a fully functional trial version that works for 30 days. if you like it you can buy it for 24,95dolars.
all the best,
Joao.

PushMail client

I have Qtek9000 with the latest JW ROM. I use the Outlook Mobile exchange PushMail. It works well, but I am wondering if there is any better PushMail client that I can use instead of Outlook? Now, I cannot receive Today notification if I recieve an e-mail which is filtered by Ruls to another than Inbox folder... I cannot open several e-mails simulteniously, there is no way to ask Read/Delivery confirmation, no way to change the current view of the Inbox and other e-mail forlder, .. the Sent items are sorted by "From" (i.e. my e-mail), not "to".. etc.

hhmm.. I am still trying to find any Push Mail client, but no success.... any ideas?

myname70 said:
hhmm.. I am still trying to find any Push Mail client, but no success.... any ideas?
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Flexmail 2007 is THE only client in my opinion. www.webis.net

d.jukes said:
Flexmail 2007 is THE only client in my opinion. www.webis.net
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I will try it.. but as i read, it use activesync acount (there is no way to set up separate exchange server)... and in order to use it, I must keep both - default outlook mail and Flexmail, which is not so good).
If it is possible JW to make some changes in the Outlook Mail in order to be able to sort the e-mails by "TO" (there is only an option to sort them by "FROM"). I need it when looking at "Sent" items

I just mentioned this article: http://blogs.msdn.com/outlook_mobile/archive/2007/03/13/wm6-messaging.aspx and found the Outlook in JW ROM is a littje bit diferrent from the shown pictures! On my device I cannot find the menu for Exchange server searching... If the Outlook in JW ROM is the latest WM Outlook version?

Exchange Sync - strange problem!
Hi, I use PushMail on my PPC (Qyek9000, WM6) to sync with our company
Exchange Server 2003SP2. It worked fine till 01st May 2007, when I suddently
stopped recieving any e-mails/contacts/tasks from Exchange server to my PPC!
It is still connected, it found and synchronizes the Folder list (only), it
count the number of e-mails inside the inbox, but DOES NOT retrieve ANY
e-mails/contacts. It just shows me "0 items". At the same time, I can send
e-mails and if I change something on my PPC (ex.new Task/contact) it
synchronized on the Server and I can see it on my desktop Outlook.... The IT
guys checked the server, but nothing found! I have deleted and reinstalled my
PPC exchange mail settings, but the same problem. Please any idea how to
solve it. Thanks!

You can actually set your pushmail exchange email account to sync outside of your inbox:
On your device:
Goto Messaging
Outlook Email
Menu
Tools
Manage Folders
You'll see a folder browser.
Inbox is default synced
You can now enable more folders for synchronization (for example your sent items)
This way you can sync your inbox and a couple of your selection of folders for specific people

Viper® said:
You can actually set your pushmail exchange email account to sync outside of your inbox:
On your device:
Goto Messaging
Outlook Email
Menu
Tools
Manage Folders
You'll see a folder browser.
Inbox is default synced
You can now enable more folders for synchronization (for example your sent items)
This way you can sync your inbox and a couple of your selection of folders for specific people
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I can and I did it! But the problem is that I still not recieve any e-mails on my PPC. In fact, it synchronize one-way - from PPC-to Exchange server, but not vice versa! I can see the folder list, but it does not "send/push" amy e-mails... Last week it worked normally!

The IT guy
Mine is working great (I am the IT guy), Make sure that you have the correct certificate on your PDA, or ask you IT guy to give you the certificate and reinstall it.
Then make sure to try your account with and without SSL.
Good luck, let me know…

moeaboelela said:
Mine is working great (I am the IT guy), Make sure that you have the correct certificate on your PDA, or ask you IT guy to give you the certificate and reinstall it.
Then make sure to try your account with and without SSL.
Good luck, let me know…
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The certificate is fine but the problem stil. I tried another PPC - Nokia, with Symbian, but the same problem. The result is that I can synchronize ONEWAY only - from PPC to Exchange, but not vise versa (from Exchnage to PPC). The IT department guys cannot find any reason and do not know what to do. I suggest tham to restrat/reset the exchange server... but still waiting

Problem Solved
The problem is solved! The reason for the problem was the Exchange Server's antivirus software (McAfee). We had to switch the mail scanning from "on demant" to "background scanning". Now it works

Sound complicated.
I am using live.mail2web.com and receiving mail at Outlook and is ok. Just need to set the exchange address, thats all.

CWKJ said:
Sound complicated.
I am using live.mail2web.com and receiving mail at Outlook and is ok. Just need to set the exchange address, thats all.
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I speak about our company Exchange 2003 Server.. it is a different from mail2web.

Best email, contact & calendar provider online for PocketPC users ?

Hello,
I am a PocketPC user, and I want to completely reorganize the way I am using my private emails, contact & calendar !
I would like to manipulate my data (email, contact & calendar), on the PocketPC AND online on the Web.
Which solution email/contact/calendar solution do you recommend me ?
I have listed these solutions (do you know other possibilities ?):
- Google and Zoho PIM suite: The good, it is online and free. The bad is that there is no way to sync them with the PocketPC.
- Microsoft Exchange: The good, it is on the Pocket PC. The bad, it is costs money.
chris

I use Yahoo. Sync device with Outlook; Outlook and device always the same. Outlook syncs with Yahoo contacts, calendar, etc via Intellisync. So I have a nice backup of everything on Yahoo, can still access things on Yahoo mobile or Yahoo full web.
Outlook on Desktop.
pOutlook on Device.
Yahoo Intellisync to sync Yahoo and Outlook.
Sync Device to Outlook, Outlook to Yahoo.
However this takes mental energy to remember which will be the home to the 'correct' info. So if you edit things in Yahoo, on your phone and in Outlook without first syncing everythign, you can run into issues.
I recently moved to a Service Desk software for my business. It is a served application and I just go to the WWW address to get all the info. Interent dependent though...and web browsing is slow when under the gun...

I also know that if you use the Yahoo mobile plugin system that you pretty much just work from within that shell. Its good for some. I guess it is called Y! Go. I had it on my 8125 and it worked well, a bit slow on the 8125.

I didn't know about this Yahoo sync system. I will have a look at it.
If I understand your feedback, what you are missing is: the need to sync your contacts/calendar directly online from your PocketPC. That's right ?
I do agree with you, the best solution would be to be able to sync online all your applications, that ís the application on the PocketPC (POutlook) and the application on the PC (Outlook).
As far as I know, only Microsoft Exchange is offering this possibility. But it costs quite a lot..
Chris

Google Apps and mail2web
I really like googlemail, and actually use google apps for domains to manage a couple of domain names. I've set up Outlook using IMAP to connect to these accounts but do not schedule mail download. This allows me to easily send emails from my account.
I've then set up mail forwarding within googlemail to a free mail2web account, that is in effect Exchange. This is set up as a push account within Outlook(works really well). Within googlemail I have a rule setup to archive mails once they are forwarded, this gives me a clean inbox should I wish to bring up the IMAP connection to view archived mail.

Could anyone using MS Exchange, give a feedback about this solution ?
Nick, why don't you just use your MS Exchange account (mail2web) ? it seems to me that you don't need to have a gmail account.
Chris

With Mail2web I can only reply and send mails as [email protected]
If I want to send an email from my own domain I need to do it through my Google Apps for Domains setup.
If mail2web could handle personal domains it would be fine. Google do a really good job of this with regard to MX records and reverse dns lookups.

Hosted Exchange would be a nice solution: admitted it costs a few euros per month (6 here) but you get a mailbox which WinMo directly syncs with (without any dirty hacks, plugins and stuff) plus a quite nice webmail/calendaring/collaboration environment (Outlook Web Access).

According to your post, it seems that MS Exchange is actually the only "clean" (=acceptable) way to have the possibility to have your email/contact/calendar on your PocketPC and online.
So, I definitely need to have a look at the offers to see how much it is. Do you know a comparison table of the different companies offering Exchange hosting ?
Nick, i understand now why you still use Google. I do think you can use your own domain with Exchange thought. Maybe not with mail2web.com , but other competitors probably offer this.
How much do you pay for your hosted Exchange ?
spone1, I agree with your conclusion. Which Exchange hosting provider do you use ?
Chris

Mail2web is free!! You may as well sign-up just to see how Push/Active Sync works.
So 95% of the benefits of Exchange (active sync, Outlook Web access etc.) but just no domain hosting. I don't have that many mails that I need to reply to from my domain when I am out and about, so it's really not that big a deal for me to quickly switch accounts when I need to. I'm sure I could get hosted Exchange including a domain or two, but I'd expect it would be between £50 and £100 pounds a year, and wouldn't really give me that much benefit.
But the benefit of having push email is great. ActiveSync does seem to occassional have trouble connecting if my connection type changes through the day. Eg, I connect via WIFI at home, then in the car the phone will pick up 3G, thn by the time I'm at work I'm down to GPRS, at some locations in work I can pick up WIFI again and then for the return journey etc. It can be fixed be manually synchronising to get things running again, but that does kind of defeats the object of push email.
Another alternative is to run your own mail server. It doesn't have to be MS Exchange, there are other that are compatible. But this seems a little like too much hard work without much benefit.

Don't forget that you can use Google with any domain by using Google Apps.
They currently handle MX records for my Domain.

Yeah, Google apps is great, and would be perfect for me if it could handle push email. IMAP isn't the end of the World, just not as slick.
Google apps is my primary mail handler. In effect all mail2web is doing for me is adding push capability

Cloud winmo now
I have a setup that works great for me.
I use a beta (free) service mobipush for push gmail. http://www.mobipush.com/
I use remember the milk for tasks that can be a plugin in google calendar and sync wirelessly with your outlook mobile tasks.
https://www.rememberthemilk.com/
(there is a gadget to add RTM to your gmail screen and intergrated into google calendar.)
I use ogg sync for syncing contacts and calendar.
http://oggsync.com/
Something extra!!!
I also us Jott to add via voice tasks and calendar events to remember the milk and google calendar when I can't type. i.e. when driving.
http://jott.com
This system gives me the cloud experiance of a google phone with the power of a winmo device

I used 4smartphone.net hosted Exchange and before that I'd been using Intellisync for over-the-air sync with Lotus Domino. Intellisync solution was a good one as it provided rather comprehensive sync options. However, I'd been using it few years ago, so I don't really know whether this solution is still available (looks like Nokia had bought Intellisync).
Exchange solution is great for its native support, but lacks few features (like separate folders support and OTA sync for notes).
I think that hosted Exchange 2007 is the preferred option.

Nick-- said:
With Mail2web I can only reply and send mails as [email protected]
If I want to send an email from my own domain I need to do it through my Google Apps for Domains setup.
If mail2web could handle personal domains it would be fine. Google do a really good job of this with regard to MX records and reverse dns lookups.
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I have my personal domain stuza.com pointing to my mail2web.com account and I love it. Works superbly. I can edit calender/contacts and it changes automaticaly on the mail2web server. Also saves a bucketload of time should you decide to flash your phone - you simply give it your email address and it goes away and autoconfigures the exchange settings and then pulls all your contacts/schedule data down. All my mail comes into [email protected] and goes out from [email protected] .... frickin sweet.
I will never live again without an exchange solution.
edit: dont know if it makes a diference but i have a paid mail2web account

Has anybody tried funambol.com? It is an open source project that I recently found. I haven't tested it with the exception of email but it does have contacts and calendar components. I hope it works for you!
gottago
Sprint Touch w/ WM 6.1

windows live mail
windows live mail works just like exchange, syncing calendar, mail, contacts...etc
Push mail works easily and without any setup. Usually it comes with wm6 phones, but you can also install the cab found on the forum.

Xilicon said:
windows live mail works just like exchange, syncing calendar, mail, contacts...etc
Push mail works easily and without any setup. Usually it comes with wm6 phones, but you can also install the cab found on the forum.
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Okay my age is probably getting in the way, but don't you have to use Outlook to synch calendar? Has there been an upgrade to Windows Live Mail or something else I may be missing?
gottago
Sprint Touch w/ WM 6.1

gottago said:
Has anybody tried funambol.com? It is an open source project that I recently found. I haven't tested it with the exception of email but it does have contacts and calendar components. I hope it works for you!
gottago
Sprint Touch w/ WM 6.1
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Further on funambol.com and to the original poster's request. Funambol has it's own web site that will serve to pull/push email and contacts with GMail. I don't use the calendar on Gmail so I can not address that but Funambol provides you a myfunambol web page that will consolidate your email/contacts as well as any calendar/tasks/notes/briefcase on your PPC. So, in effect, you can go to your myfunambol page and see your email, contacts, calendar, etc. all in one place on the web as well as on your PPC. Funambol provides flexibility as to what it actually synchs so you remain in control. While you can schedule your synch times, it also has the option of synching on a 'push' basis. I will admit that this capability is not necessarily perfect at this point but it is clearly being worked on.
This is a great solution for me as I do not use Outlook (too cheap to buy) or Internet Explorer on my PC. I use Thunderbird/Lightning and Firefox. There is a Funambol plugin for Thunderbird that works well.
NOTE: I have no affiliation with Funambol other than as a user of this one product.
gottago
Sprint Touch w/WM 6.1

Cloud mobile sync ?

Hi,
Like lots of people, I synchronize my PPC with Outlook on my computer currently (I don't have exchange, I am privat person only).
But has serious limitations:
1/ I would like to be able to edit my calendar events on any PC via Internet and have the calendar event being updated on my PPC
2/ When I use my web site email account, I would like to have my contact list being in sync with my PPC so that I have all the email address of my contacts up to date.
How have you solved this problems?
I have heard about cloud mobile sync, it looks interesting. I have seen MyPhone, Funambol, Dashwire, ... looks nice but will it solve the point 2/ ?
I am ready to change my email provider
Otherwise I have seen Google Sync for Windows Mobile, it does seem to solve 2/.
Have you already used it ?
When using Google Sync, do you still sync with MS Outlook ? If yes, how ?
Regards, Chris

why no way to sync outlook express w/windows mobile phone

I can't be the only person in the world using outlook express for my email. I have outlook, but I don't like to use it for email. but I can't seem to find any program that works with wm6 to sync my outlook express emails -- and so I can't use built in email feature on phone and instead use phone's browser to read mail online. okay, but why isn't there a program? there's got to be some interest out there besides me, no?

If you online email service has IMAP or even POP3, then the email program on winmo can connect directly to your mail service and grab your emails. If you're using GMail, you can use Google Sync as well.