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I'm currently running a cooked wm 6.1 ROM, if I want to upgrade is there a way to backup/restore my non-rom programs and PIM info to a new ROM using sprite or spb? I heard sprite allows you to restore across ROM/devises but I looked through all options and there wasn't one that I could see about only backing up non-rom info. I hope this makes any sense and if anyone has answer I sincerely thank you in advance.
short and sweet, you can't backup programs
You can backup their installers though (cabs) (on your storage card) and use sdauto run with a uc compliant rom to reinstall all of your programs.
but if you are not a frequent flasher than i would just suggest writing down everything you have installed and reinstalling it.
PIM backup will store things like contacts, messages ect.
joel2009 said:
short and sweet, you can't backup programs
You can backup their installers though (cabs) (on your storage card) and use sdauto run with a uc compliant rom to reinstall all of your programs.
but if you are not a frequent flasher than i would just suggest writing down everything you have installed and reinstalling it.
PIM backup will store things like contacts, messages ect.
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thanks for the response, the sdauto thing sounds promising. I did see it in the kitchen but I don't know how it works.
I believe the latest SPB backup has an option for restoring after a ROM change. However I have not fully investigated this.
Mike
Since i've been backing up and flashing for a long long while now, i've had the distinct pleasure of finding out that in most cases, you can use a previous backup on a new rom unless the system structure stays the same.
you CAN back programs up, as mike said using SPB Backup (Or clone.. if you can afford it )
nir36 said:
Since i've been backing up and flashing for a long long while now, i've had the distinct pleasure of finding out that in most cases, you can use a previous backup on a new rom unless the system structure stays the same.
you CAN back programs up, as mike said using SPB Backup (Or clone.. if you can afford it )
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thanks for the response. just curious, if you're cooking a new rom to remove some programs that you found you didn't need, then restore a back up will it put those file back into your windows folder? I only ask because I have an apache and main memory mb's are like Manhattan real estate, there's very little of it and it's very valuable Also what's the difference between spb clone and backup? The description sound about the same. Thanks again
There's another thread going on here on the same issue.
Even if it has the feature, i would personally not recommend it. Going through the time to reinstall your stuff (use Sashimi) is more worth it imo.
12gage said:
thanks for the response. just curious, if you're cooking a new rom to remove some programs that you found you didn't need, then restore a back up will it put those file back into your windows folder? I only ask because I have an apache and main memory mb's are like Manhattan real estate, there's very little of it and it's very valuable Also what's the difference between spb clone and backup? The description sound about the same. Thanks again
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SPB Clone, for instance, backs up all program files folder. meaning you will get all system files and all program files directories back after the backup.
there are problems with it tho. if the app tries to update a different rom it gets stuck in most cases and stuff won't work and so.. since it replaces stuff in the new rom with stuff from the old rom.
as said here.. you should install everything again after flashing a new rom...and use backups when working on the same one.
Hi all,
Sorry for seems like a noob question, I was wondering is there a utility that I can get a complete backup of my WM (i780) where I can restore it later if I wanted.
I was hoping to save "everything", including calls/contacts/apps/data, kind of like an image backup of the PC Harddisk (in this case, the phone's storage).
I'm a bit confused about the structure of the phone's storage as it seems flashing the ROM does modify some part of the storage (or is it all part?)
Thanks a lot.
Clive
Well, when i used to flash phones a lot, I used to use spb backup to save my phone in a usable state.
The only thing is, is that it wont save the rom itself, so you will need to flash back to the same rom as you started with, then restore the backup.
You cant put a backup from one rom version over another, at least not one made by a program that backs up the registry, or you will end up with unstable results.
You should use either SPB Backup or SPB Clone to backup the system and PIMBackup2.8 to backup the contacts/messages/....
nir36 said:
You should use either SPB Backup or SPB Clone to backup the system and PIMBackup2.8 to backup the contacts/messages/....
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so true!!! i had to do a hard reset the other day (too much tinkering again) and the back up i did just before the tinkering started (using sprite backup) was corrupt and didnt restore, much to my horror. Thankfully i had done another backup 2 days before hand, so i didnt loose too much.
Using PIM backup too meant i at least had upto date contacts and messages moral of the story?.... 2 backups is better than 1 haha.
The latest version of SPB Backup is supposed to work even after ROM upgrades, never tried it myslef so can't pass comment.
ALWAYS backup. ALWAYS. i backup about once a week. it's no trouble... you don't have to work for it.. just clicking a few buttons and you won't lose anything unless you lose your device
And how true that is, very nearly lost my mail server this week at home, had to power it down for the electrician and then it failed to come back up.
Matter was made worse by the fact it runs headless in a cupboard, so it was either run a long VGA cable to my main PC or physically move the box. I went for the latter, as it turned out it was a failing disc and a scandisk wiped the boot sector, that fixed and so far all is good to go. Guess I need to get a new HDD for it this week.
I just bought 2 500GB HDDs 2 weeks ago after making 2 other 250GB ones in RAID to backup all the important stuff like pictures documents and music (which i worked for 12 years to collect).
Btw, whoever is using commercial software.. i'd suggest SPB Clone. it's only good for companies because they demand like 300$ for it.. so i got myself a copy from work
it's magnificent.
Thanks a lot, I will try SPB backup (Clone, if I can snatch one from friends)
Clive
Hi to All..
Hope everyone is well.
If this question has been answer else where then my apologies to all.
I have an XDA Orbit that came with WM6(prob 6.1) and am wishing to upgrade the rom to 6.5..... I regularly backup the internal memory to MicroSD using Sprite Backup.... I backup ALL internal content so apps, registry and settings etc are backed up. Now my question is this... If I do a rom upgrade can I simply restore the backup file thus returning the Orbit to original state before the upgrade with the change being of cause a 6.5 rom and not a 6.1 rom.. I just don't want to have to reinstall over 250 apps if I can help it....
regards
Lohtse
Hi,
Yes you can restore your apps from sd card after flashing (of course taking out your SD before flashing!)
Just remember that some apps may not be compatible with 6.5, also 6.5 takes a lot of more RAM so be sure you have enough to run all you need.
Hope it helped,
Doing a full sprite restore is kind of a lousy idea, if you ask me, especially when upgrading from 6.1 to 6.5. How many registry entries from 6.1 will either useless in 6.5 or in conflict? Beats me, but it will affect device performance. What's worse, if you're not happy with the new rom, you won't know if it's the rom's fault for sucking or if it's your fault for importing a lot of bad registry settings. In some cases, I've read that doing a full restore locks up the pda, with a hard reset being the only way to get it going again.
You have 250 apps installed? Holy crap, that's a ton!!! All I can say is this: keep your cabs. If you have them all, you can have them automatically installed with sashimi. (If not, you can use sk tools to re-pack any installed program back into a cab.) I guess it may be worth it to try the sprite backup just because of the enormous amount of crap you've installed (no offense, lol). I would actually recommend that you try out Resco Backup. I haven't used it myself (have the demo, though). It allows you to do more selective restores than Sprite. Also, you can unpack the backup on your pc later if you find that you're missing things. It costs about 20 bucks, but it's really the only backup utility that I've ever been tempted to buy. I already own sk tools, and it does a good job of backing up stuff, but Resco sounds pretty sweet.
Which would you recommend for both FULL backups of EVERYTHING?
Which is better in terms of Ease of use?
Ideally It should be able to Backup and restore everything (ROM/OS, Apps, Settings, Contacts, messages etc etc) IN ONE GO While also being able to just restore Apps, Settings etc ONTO AN UPDATED ROM.
Can either Sprite or PSB do both of the above? and if they can both do it all....which is best?
As well as answering the poll, please feel free to post whether or not you have used BOTH apps or not, also pros and cons of each etc.
Thanks.
Neither. Just use PIM backup or activesync. Backing up the whole ROM and restoring is not advisable anyways, unless you use that over and over on a same ROM.
ai6908 said:
Backing up the whole ROM and restoring is not advisable anyways, unless you use that over and over on a same ROM.
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Isn't it the whole point of making the full system backup? Kind of like making ghost images on PC - so once system becomes unstable, we can easily restore everything without the tiresome reinstallation/reconfiguration?
ai6908 said:
Neither. Just use PIM backup or activesync. Backing up the whole ROM and restoring is not advisable anyways, unless you use that over and over on a same ROM.
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Same here. Using a mix of PIMBackup, MyPhone, Outlook/WMDC, and Sashimi.
SPB all the way baby!
Not used anything else since i first tried it!
The beauty of it is, it backs up absolutely everything with a few clicks, and you can restore parts of a back up if you don't want a full restore (mainly contacts for me)
Was gobsmacked when it even backed up my opera settings eg. cache on mem card. Haven't found anything it wont backup.
So personally, SPB peeps!
Hope it helps you!
Been using SPB Backup for quite a while.
Being I flash so many ROM's, it saves me a lot of time.
I have also used Sprite, but normally use SPB.
Thanks for the input so far chaps, keep those oppinions coming peeps
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...Backing up the whole ROM and restoring is not advisable anyways, unless you use that over and over on a same ROM.
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I think p107r0 hit the nail on the head with what I'm looking for... basically I want Norton Ghost For HD2 lol.... Or that type of FULL backup and restore.
BUT I also want the app to be able to restore everything EXCEPT the OS specific items (for if/when I flash a different ROM).
Sounds like SPB Does it all.
No votes for sprite then?
Early days yet but SPB is sounding like a winner so far (I'm lazy so I really wanted my backups 'centralised rather than having to use PIM backup AND MyPhone AND sashimi etc).
Thanks again peeps...
BTW... tkalli and snowblind: Would you say SPB is easy to use (noob friendly)?
not sure about Sprite, but SPB comes with a small desktop application similar to Ghost Explorer, enabling you to browse through the backup file and selectively extract selected files and/or even registry keys/entries
Resco Backup is very good program for Leo.
i also used it, but of no apparent reason it caused a problem on my phone. when i was changing the lockscreen wallpaper, my phone was freezing, had to take the battery out every time. with spb backup I use, no issues so far
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Resco Backup is very good program for Leo.
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Thanks for all your input peeps.... much appreciated.
I know 27 isnt exactly a good sample size but the votes are so stacked in SPBs favour that it looks like a no-brainer already.
Talking of no-brains...
Can anyone who uses SPB Backup, and changes ROMs frequently, tell me if it is possible to restore a 6.5 backup to a 6.5.x ROM???
Would there be any parts of the backup which could be restored to 6.5.x? all of it? none of it?
I'm using a recent EnergyRom based on 6.5. I love it and have just got it set up how I like it so its time for my first full backup, which is where SPB now comes in.
BUT, if I decide to try out a 6.5.x ROM, will I have to start all over again or can all/part of my 6.5 backup be restored???
Thanks in advance.
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Can anyone who uses SPB Backup, and changes ROMs frequently, tell me if it is possible to restore a 6.5 backup to a 6.5.x ROM???
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both apps seem to have "ROM upgrade mode", not sure though how it works,
unless someone more experienced in the subject gives his view, you could try to check in the manuals (if available online that is)
pim and core cell backup built into newer core cell roms
I've just put a custom ROM on my Omnia 7 and I'm very pleased with it.
But I left some stuff back on my old installation, which I backed-up fully before I updated (using Windows Phone Back-up Tool 1.9). I'm sure I've read that there are complexities when working with back-ups and custom ROMS.
What I'd like to do is get my photos and videos off the old install, as well as my old non-syncable OneNote notebook.
Can anyone advise? I don't suppose I can load the backed-up image into a virtual machine somehow?
Thanks
Backups are device-specific; you can't even restore one to another device of the same model. Why you would re-imag eyour phone without first syncing off pictures and such, I really don't know, but if you did and you want to access them, the only way to do so is to restore that backup to the device it was made from. People have been trying to crack the backup files for about as long as the OS has existed. We may succeed some day, but this is probably not that day.
So moreover, can I use Zune to back-up the phone as it is now (with a custom ROM on it, identifying it as a Nokia even though it's not)? I'm after a way to jump between the two images really, as I still don't know how to get the local OneNote data but I want to keep using 7.8 for a bit to test it out.
Thanks