[POLL] SPB or Sprite for Backups? - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps

Which would you recommend for both FULL backups of EVERYTHING?
Which is better in terms of Ease of use?
Ideally It should be able to Backup and restore everything (ROM/OS, Apps, Settings, Contacts, messages etc etc) IN ONE GO While also being able to just restore Apps, Settings etc ONTO AN UPDATED ROM.
Can either Sprite or PSB do both of the above? and if they can both do it all....which is best?
As well as answering the poll, please feel free to post whether or not you have used BOTH apps or not, also pros and cons of each etc.
Thanks.

Neither. Just use PIM backup or activesync. Backing up the whole ROM and restoring is not advisable anyways, unless you use that over and over on a same ROM.

ai6908 said:
Backing up the whole ROM and restoring is not advisable anyways, unless you use that over and over on a same ROM.
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Isn't it the whole point of making the full system backup? Kind of like making ghost images on PC - so once system becomes unstable, we can easily restore everything without the tiresome reinstallation/reconfiguration?

ai6908 said:
Neither. Just use PIM backup or activesync. Backing up the whole ROM and restoring is not advisable anyways, unless you use that over and over on a same ROM.
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Same here. Using a mix of PIMBackup, MyPhone, Outlook/WMDC, and Sashimi.

SPB all the way baby!
Not used anything else since i first tried it!
The beauty of it is, it backs up absolutely everything with a few clicks, and you can restore parts of a back up if you don't want a full restore (mainly contacts for me)
Was gobsmacked when it even backed up my opera settings eg. cache on mem card. Haven't found anything it wont backup.
So personally, SPB peeps!
Hope it helps you!

Been using SPB Backup for quite a while.
Being I flash so many ROM's, it saves me a lot of time.
I have also used Sprite, but normally use SPB.
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Thanks for the input so far chaps, keep those oppinions coming peeps
ai6908 said:
...Backing up the whole ROM and restoring is not advisable anyways, unless you use that over and over on a same ROM.
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I think p107r0 hit the nail on the head with what I'm looking for... basically I want Norton Ghost For HD2 lol.... Or that type of FULL backup and restore.
BUT I also want the app to be able to restore everything EXCEPT the OS specific items (for if/when I flash a different ROM).
Sounds like SPB Does it all.
No votes for sprite then?
Early days yet but SPB is sounding like a winner so far (I'm lazy so I really wanted my backups 'centralised rather than having to use PIM backup AND MyPhone AND sashimi etc).
Thanks again peeps...
BTW... tkalli and snowblind: Would you say SPB is easy to use (noob friendly)?

not sure about Sprite, but SPB comes with a small desktop application similar to Ghost Explorer, enabling you to browse through the backup file and selectively extract selected files and/or even registry keys/entries

Resco Backup is very good program for Leo.

i also used it, but of no apparent reason it caused a problem on my phone. when i was changing the lockscreen wallpaper, my phone was freezing, had to take the battery out every time. with spb backup I use, no issues so far
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Resco Backup is very good program for Leo.
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Thanks for all your input peeps.... much appreciated.
I know 27 isnt exactly a good sample size but the votes are so stacked in SPBs favour that it looks like a no-brainer already.
Talking of no-brains...
Can anyone who uses SPB Backup, and changes ROMs frequently, tell me if it is possible to restore a 6.5 backup to a 6.5.x ROM???
Would there be any parts of the backup which could be restored to 6.5.x? all of it? none of it?
I'm using a recent EnergyRom based on 6.5. I love it and have just got it set up how I like it so its time for my first full backup, which is where SPB now comes in.
BUT, if I decide to try out a 6.5.x ROM, will I have to start all over again or can all/part of my 6.5 backup be restored???
Thanks in advance.

thesweeney said:
Can anyone who uses SPB Backup, and changes ROMs frequently, tell me if it is possible to restore a 6.5 backup to a 6.5.x ROM???
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both apps seem to have "ROM upgrade mode", not sure though how it works,
unless someone more experienced in the subject gives his view, you could try to check in the manuals (if available online that is)

pim and core cell backup built into newer core cell roms

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Best Backup Soft 4 Wm6?

Hi, I'm wondering if anyone know a good OS backup software for wm6, I have always used spb backup with wm5 faria's but now that i'm on explorer 1.1 I notice whenever I try to backup i always have error logs and when I restore the file the os run slows as ever, I really dont' think spb backup is very compatible with wm6, and yes I have the newest version too. Any suggestions? or anyone that use a different soft and doesn't run into any problem with restoring in wm6 I would like to know your input, thanxs.
I personally use Sprite, but I just acquired SK Tools and I haven't used the built-in backup utility yet. My restorations are not laggy, but I do get a few errors.
I'm not really sure that there's a utility built for any WM6 devices at this point, so you may want to hold off until an updated utility is offered and make your decision then.
Normally i'm using spb backup 1.5.5. But everytime I make a backup an error is reported. When restoring this backup no problems occure. So it should be a slip the program or so. I also used Sunny Soft backupmanager 4.0. This isn't giving any problems or errors, the only thing is it makes three restore files in stead of one restore file of spb.
So I'm back to spb, it still works great even with an error report.
daheufster said:
Normally i'm using spb backup 1.5.5. But everytime I make a backup an error is reported. When restoring this backup no problems occure. So it should be a slip the program or so. I also used Sunny Soft backupmanager 4.0. This isn't giving any problems or errors, the only thing is it makes three restore files in stead of one restore file of spb.
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Do a google search for that error and you'll find a registry fix to correct it. Something about couldn't lock compimeh.dat or something similar I'll bet. Has to do with WM6, but it isn't anything vital to worry about (as I understand it). Just frustrating if you want to do nightly automatic backups.
I´m using SKTools and did a backup two times - on NotTooSmart vanilla and Xplore 1.1.
Everytime after backup I coudn´t run any message Program. No SMS, no Email, nothing. Just when I hit message in Start - Programs the wizard goes back to today. So I stoped making backups.
SOmetime I had problems to get ActiveSnc connecting after backup.
So just keep on reinstalling everything. Clean - Fast - und everytime some new apps.
Backup Tools - my order
Having tested them all, several times, below my personal ordering:
1. Sunnysoft Backup Manager Ver 4.02
2. SKTools
3. Spb Backup
4. Sprite
Cheers
hrb
hrb said:
Having tested them all, several times, below my personal ordering:
1. Sunnysoft Backup Manager Ver 4.02
2. SKTools
3. Spb Backup
4. Sprite
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I'd be curious on why you order them this way. What reasons do you feel make one better than the other?
I'm not questioning your order, I'm just curious why SunnySoft's is your number one (I've never used it so would like to know if I'm missing something).
curious why no one has metionen PIM BACKUP?---->1.5
Backs up all personal information except the sistem files (registry)
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curious why no one has metionen PIM BACKUP?---->1.5
Backs up all personal information except the sistem files (registry)
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Yes thats right. I said I stoped using backup - that´s not right. I use PIM-Backup.
But there for you have to install everything after hardreset. Some people prefer just restore after a hardreset. For me I always had problems with fullbackup - so I only use PIM backup.
mfrazzz said:
I'd be curious on why you order them this way. What reasons do you feel make one better than the other?
I'm not questioning your order, I'm just curious why SunnySoft's is your number one (I've never used it so would like to know if I'm missing something).
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Because Sunnysoft is the ONLY ONE, that has never failed on me.
After every HR (e.g. after flash, but only when reloading a backup is apppropriate), I use all 4 programs for test purposes.
Just a hobby, ain't it ?
Cheers
hrb
papamopps said:
Yes thats right. I said I stoped using backup - that´s not right. I use PIM-Backup.
But there for you have to install everything after hardreset. Some people prefer just restore after a hardreset. For me I always had problems with fullbackup - so I only use PIM backup.
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I've tried this also. Only I noticed when restoring a backup and then syncing with my outlook (work) server al of my contacts and outlook appointments were dubbele. sot his doesn't work for me. (had to delete all my dubble appointmens and contacts. Somehowe the pim backup restores not an exact copy so when syncing outlook and the pim doesn't see the comparisment between the items ....
daheufster said:
I've tried this also. Only I noticed when restoring a backup and then syncing with my outlook (work) server al of my contacts and outlook appointments were dubbele. sot his doesn't work for me. (had to delete all my dubble appointmens and contacts. Somehowe the pim backup restores not an exact copy so when syncing outlook and the pim doesn't see the comparisment between the items ....
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I use restoring by PIM backup, when I did a hardreset without able to sync to my PC. When I´m home again, I sync just from PC to device and say "delete on device" So I do not have dublikates.
hrb said:
Because Sunnysoft is the ONLY ONE, that has never failed on me.
After every HR (e.g. after flash, but only when reloading a backup is apppropriate), I use all 4 programs for test purposes.
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Cool, good to know. I'll have to give it a whirl myself.
Just a hobby, ain't it ?
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I think obsession is the word I'd use for myself...

How to Backup ???

Does anyone know or recommend a backup tool ?
I was really more concerned with restoring options at this point, not necessarily programs. Say the Quick contacts and stuff like that. Have to set those up is a pain again and again ever time you Flash the device.
Cheers!
I'm using PIMbackup 2.8 it's very easy to use and it's free
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299705
fllysurfer said:
Does anyone know or recommend a backup tool ?
I was really more concerned with restoring options at this point, not necessarily programs. Say the Quick contacts and stuff like that. Have to set those up is a pain again and again ever time you Flash the device.
Cheers!
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But why don't u use the sprite backup that comes freely with the phone in one of the cds ??!?
I have used SPB Backup on my TP and previous PPC's. The technology of SPB-Backup is clever. I choose it over Sprite years back after comparing the their respective methods.
This debate has been had many times on the forums.
PPCPimbackup is great but it will only do your SMSs/ emails/ contacts and call logs.
Sprite Backup is great for doing a full backup but you really should not use it to restore options / settings etc after flashing a new ROM, particularly one which has a different build of windows or different reg tweaks applied.
You can use UC or Sashimi to restore progs etc after a flash.
apd said:
This debate has been had many times on the forums.
SPBBackup is great but it will only do your SMSs/ emails/ contacts and call logs.
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Hi, i'm sorry but i have to correct you, this is not true (anymore). SPB backup does make full backups and does so VERY well.
I think you must've not looked at spb backup for quite a while.
My tp has scheduled backups with the newest spb backup and every night makes a full backup to my sd-card, reboots and voila, working phone when i wake up.
Mark
Trolly333 said:
Hi, i'm sorry but i have to correct you, this is not true (anymore). SPB backup does make full backups and does so VERY well.
I think you must've not looked at spb backup for quite a while.
My tp has scheduled backups with the newest spb backup and every night makes a full backup to my sd-card, reboots and voila, working phone when i wake up.
Mark
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Sorry - my mistake - I meant to say PPCPimbackup (will edit this). SPBBackup suffers the same problem as sprite when flashing a new ROM - namely you use it at your own risk given the potential differences in file structure / reg entries

Restore a back up after ROM upgrade?

I'm currently running a cooked wm 6.1 ROM, if I want to upgrade is there a way to backup/restore my non-rom programs and PIM info to a new ROM using sprite or spb? I heard sprite allows you to restore across ROM/devises but I looked through all options and there wasn't one that I could see about only backing up non-rom info. I hope this makes any sense and if anyone has answer I sincerely thank you in advance.
short and sweet, you can't backup programs
You can backup their installers though (cabs) (on your storage card) and use sdauto run with a uc compliant rom to reinstall all of your programs.
but if you are not a frequent flasher than i would just suggest writing down everything you have installed and reinstalling it.
PIM backup will store things like contacts, messages ect.
joel2009 said:
short and sweet, you can't backup programs
You can backup their installers though (cabs) (on your storage card) and use sdauto run with a uc compliant rom to reinstall all of your programs.
but if you are not a frequent flasher than i would just suggest writing down everything you have installed and reinstalling it.
PIM backup will store things like contacts, messages ect.
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thanks for the response, the sdauto thing sounds promising. I did see it in the kitchen but I don't know how it works.
I believe the latest SPB backup has an option for restoring after a ROM change. However I have not fully investigated this.
Mike
Since i've been backing up and flashing for a long long while now, i've had the distinct pleasure of finding out that in most cases, you can use a previous backup on a new rom unless the system structure stays the same.
you CAN back programs up, as mike said using SPB Backup (Or clone.. if you can afford it )
nir36 said:
Since i've been backing up and flashing for a long long while now, i've had the distinct pleasure of finding out that in most cases, you can use a previous backup on a new rom unless the system structure stays the same.
you CAN back programs up, as mike said using SPB Backup (Or clone.. if you can afford it )
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thanks for the response. just curious, if you're cooking a new rom to remove some programs that you found you didn't need, then restore a back up will it put those file back into your windows folder? I only ask because I have an apache and main memory mb's are like Manhattan real estate, there's very little of it and it's very valuable Also what's the difference between spb clone and backup? The description sound about the same. Thanks again
There's another thread going on here on the same issue.
Even if it has the feature, i would personally not recommend it. Going through the time to reinstall your stuff (use Sashimi) is more worth it imo.
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thanks for the response. just curious, if you're cooking a new rom to remove some programs that you found you didn't need, then restore a back up will it put those file back into your windows folder? I only ask because I have an apache and main memory mb's are like Manhattan real estate, there's very little of it and it's very valuable Also what's the difference between spb clone and backup? The description sound about the same. Thanks again
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SPB Clone, for instance, backs up all program files folder. meaning you will get all system files and all program files directories back after the backup.
there are problems with it tho. if the app tries to update a different rom it gets stuck in most cases and stuff won't work and so.. since it replaces stuff in the new rom with stuff from the old rom.
as said here.. you should install everything again after flashing a new rom...and use backups when working on the same one.

Best Back Up? Question

After two weeks... and several soft resents and only two hard resets... I now have everything set up and working well and smooth on my TP2 (Sprint). All my email, preferences and setting are exactly what I want themn to be.
My question is. What is the best way to back ALL of this up. Is there a programs that can save this 'state' and created a sort of restore point; so that is everything goes kablooey, I can get the device back to this exact state easily? Freeware preferable, but not a must.
I know I am noob, but I am trying to learn so thanks. It was a long time coming and WinMo 6.1 is a so different to me that the Palm system I was using until now.
Please let me know... It is greatly appreciated.
Matt
As far as I know, you have 5 options
1) PIM Backup - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299705
FREE
Really good at backing up ALL your text messages, contacts, appointments, etc. It can run automatically if desired. I've had issues when trying to restore emails and email accounts to my phone, but those aren't that hard to setup without it.
2)Microsoft MyPhone - http://sn1-p3.myphone.microsoft.com/mkweb/Start.po
FREE
Service works well. It backs up your info (Text, contacts, appointments, email) to the "cloud". It will even backup your files too, like photos and songs. You can also have this run on a schedule as well. Also has tools to locate your phone if you lose it (GPS location, make your phone rings even if it's on silent) but you gotta pay for them.
3) Flexilis Mobile - https://beta.flexilis.com/
FREE
Same as Microsoft MyPhone, but it's all free. They're still working on the GPS location function for the TP2, however their "scream" function is pretty cool, even works of the phone is set to silent too.
EDIT: forgot to mention, I wouldn't advise setting up the firewall on this program, I've had issues when trying to connect to ANY wifi spot (even my home's) when the firewall is on.
4)SPB Backup - http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/backup/?en
$24.95
Haven't actually tried this one but from the looks of it, it can backup "System Data" which I think means system preferences.
5) Resco Backup - http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/backup/
$19.99
Looks like it will backup EVERYTHING, the new version will also upload your backup to the FTP server of your choice. Haven't tried this one yet either
Also I know there is a program floating around the Rhodium forums that will re-installed ALL your programs. I forgot the link though.
I use MS MyPhone and SPB Backup... SPB is pretty easy to use, but so is MyPhone, but with MyPhone there have been some glitches in the past (which I experianced, like the contact restore issue) but those seem to be resolved now at least ( I know I havent had the issue again since getting the new version). SPB costs money, MyPhone does not. Both are simple, and easy to use. I would suggest trying them all, find the one you like best and stick with it.
I use SunnySoft BackupManager 4.x.
This software will restore you to whatever point in time it was when you did the backup. This software can be customized to backup the whole device or just parts of it.
I tried SPB on previous winmo phones and did not like it.
I also have had no issues with getting the software from 1 phone to the other. All it took was an email with my new phones key sent to them to get a new code for the new phone.
+1 for SPB its worth the money backs up and saves everything.
Sprite Backup isn't bad. Used it a lot on my MotoQ9c with no issues.
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Sprite Backup isn't bad. Used it a lot on my MotoQ9c with no issues.
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Yeah, just make sure you use the same version for restore as you did while backing up. Tried to restore my roommates palm treo (a couple years ago) and the program didn't want to because it said that the version I backed up with was to old.
+1 on SPB Backup. And when they say it backs up everything, they mean everything. Data, apps, the works. Great program and well worth the money IMHO.
I've tried Sprite Backup but it gave me problems. I tried doing a backup, reflashed my ROM, and when I tried to restore the file wouldn't work. All my data was gone. So -10 for Sprite Backup.
Sprite works for me
I've used Sprite on my Wizard and on my Fuze/Raphael.
This is the copy I'm using now, copied from my Fuze, and it is working fine:
http://www.mediafire.com/?jnxk4wzojh3
One thing you might find is that it usually works best to restore to a device that is factory fresh, i.e. hard reset to factory specs, or to your base ROM whatever that is. If you have a stock ROM you may get an error when you try to run the restore file directly.
I keep a copy of the Sprite Backup.CAB on my storage card, and load it after the hard reset, then use it to open the backup file.
If you have a cooked ROM you probably can just run the exe backup file.
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If you have a cooked ROM you probably can just run the exe backup file.
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I am think about this... but I have not the first clue on how to flash a new ROM, where to find one that is right... is there a faq on this whole process.
I just want a nice stable system...
My vote is with SPB backup.
It makes backups on schedule, I do one every day, then automatically copies the backups to my desktop when I connect it by activesync.
Smooth, reliable, I've restored 1/2 a dozen times without a problem.
Worth the money.

How Are You Guys Backing Up Your Phone

Had the droid and with it rooted I can backup the WHOLE phone with settings, contacts, wallpaper,...EVERYTHING! Can this be done with the HD2?
Last night I had to hard reset with hardware buttons because I installed a keyboard and when I reset the phone it froze on the tmobile screen. I just had the phone completely setup and this happens!
I don't want that to happen to me again. I want to backup the complete phone/rom whatever can be done. What do you guys use?
You don´t have to backup your ROM, it´s in your Phone Memory. For your Apps and Settings you can use SPB Backup or SKTools.
Sprite Backup, It is Really FANTASTIC piece of software, it exactly does what you asking for, Takes backup of Everything, means Everything.
http://www.spritesoftware.com/products/sprite-backup/full-edition
Regards
Sid
Resco Backup - really good app
my HD2 came with sprite backup files on the memory card....
wether or not i'll need them is a different story! lol
I use SPB Backup which also supports Restore after a ROM upgrade.
I use to use SPb but once my backup neared the100mb mark it began to show errors saying the backup file was to large etc.
now using resco and it works great. not jus new backups but u can also just update your latest backup meaning its alot quicker.
think I used sprite a while ago but didn't like it for some reason,just my2c worth.
Resco Back up
Nice to see I have won over Rexboy!!
Jas, for instructions follow the thread Rexboy started. I placed the "how to" info in there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649321
Cracker of a program and running updates is blissfully fast.
Enjoy
Davej
I user SPB Backup and PIM Backup
THANKS EVERYONE for the help! I'm going to try all of these, so glad I posted!
I'm using MyPhone (SMS, favourites), Outlook (people, appointments) and SASHIMI (esp. for auto setup of my e-mail-accounts and initial import of some registry-values to register my bought apps etc.). SASHIMI is definitely a MUST try. I do not really like all-in-one-solutions like Resco, Sprite or SPB - they can course too much problems for my taste.
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I'm using MyPhone (SMS, favourites), Outlook (people, appointments) and SASHIMI (esp. for auto setup of my e-mail-accounts and initial import of some registry-values to register my bought apps etc.). SASHIMI is definitely a MUST try. I do not really like all-in-one-solutions like Resco, Sprite or SPB - they can course too much problems for my taste.
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Going to try SASHIMI, so far I like reso and sprite.
Thanks!
Sprite Backup is the best, SPB backup is slow and buggy on my HD2.
Once you do the backup with SpriteBackup, you can do Hard Reset, Flash Rom, whatever you want, everything will just back to normal as It should be. (Dont need to reinstall apps or contacts, sms, mails...)

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