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Exchange Support - It's here :)

I did a search and didn't find the software anywhere on XDA -
For those who don't know - you can have your exchange account synced with your G1 in real time.
The only catch, the software is $50/year - a bit expensive but I'm sure something will come out open source eventually.
The software basically grabs all your outlook data for your exchange account and syncs it into gmail contacts/calendar/mail - folders work and using googles send as 2nd email address - you can send mails via the G1 as the email address you use with exchange. It's really a pretty flawless integration of all your exchange data, quite impressive.
I've been using it for a few days and it works flawlessly - they have a free trial too if you aren't sure.
The software is called MailShadowG and can be downloaded from - www.cemaphore.com
Their support is really good too if you require it.
Sorry if this is has been mentioned before, I couldn't find it on search anywhere and wanted to share the info with others who may not have known this was here.

if all you need is the exchange calendar, then u can use google's calendar sync application to sync between google's calendar and the exchange calendar.

Hmmm. This program seems odd. I'm going to stick with TouchDown. www.nitrodesk.com

Mi|enko said:
Hmmm. This program seems odd. I'm going to stick with TouchDown. www.nitrodesk.com
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I didn't even know TouchDown existed.
A few issues I see with touchdown though - it only gives you the calendar events for one single day, and there is no real-time updating, you have to manually go in and refresh to get new email.
One thing I like about MailShadowG - is that, essentially, you are getting all the real-time push and same features of having your exchange with outlook on a Win Mo phone. Full calendar, contacts, and email in real time synced with your exchange.
Even touchdown admits to all these faults, MailShadow does virtually all these -
* Exchange 2003 support has some limitations
* Does not push email (but we're pulling hard for it)
* You have to poll periodically (please dont do it too frequently 3G downloads are rather drain'y on the battery)
* Calendar shows just one day of events (today)
* You have to refresh the calendar yourself. (the only time the calendar refreshes itself if you made a change to a non-recurring event ocurring on the same day)
* You cannot add bcc to email
* You cannot create or edit appointments

aardvark is working on exchange with full push capabilities.
Anyone offering anything that doesn't do real push email, is not worth bothering with IMO.
Push is crucial.

MailShadowG DOES do real push - since your G1 already does push with the Gmail contacts/calendar/gmail.
aad4321-
You might be out of luck then for now, just have to wait for Aardvark. MailShadow is an outlook add-on, roughly. So your PC must be on with outlook running. You must have Exchange Caching enabled as well as the ability to open imap.gmail.com to port 993 - if you can do these things you should have no problem getting it to work.
Do you get exchange at home as well on your outlook?
I was skeptical of MailShadowG at first so I used the trial, but it works extremely well, everything is near instantaneous - it syncs with the phones contacts/calendar/mail and feels just like real-time exchange like I had on my 8525.
However, due to their stupid 1 year license and rather expensive price - I'm banking on there being a cheaper/free exchange solution within the next year or so. Although I do love having all my exchange data backed up in my gmail which is kind of cool.

vr24 said:
MailShadowG DOES do real push - since your G1 already does push with the Gmail contacts/calendar/gmail.
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I don't use Gmail. I use exchange 2003

Henchman said:
I don't use Gmail. I use exchange 2003
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The program sync's your exchange data into gmail and makes it accessible via the G1 - you are still using exchange - in fact, the email you send on your G1 will be sent via your exchange email address. A major benefit to this setup is that all your exchange data is backed up on gmail servers as well. Plus, if exchange should go down, you can send via gmail (setting in the mailshadow config).

vr24 said:
The program sync's your exchange data into gmail and makes it accessible via the G1 - you are still using exchange - in fact, the email you send on your G1 will be sent via your exchange email address.
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Greta, so now I have duplicate emails everywhere, that I then need to delete form my original exchange mailbox.
No thanks.

Henchman said:
Greta, so now I have duplicate emails everywhere, that I then need to delete form my original exchange mailbox.
No thanks.
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Why such negativity? It's like you just want to hate a nice piece of software.
Your only duplicate is a BACKUP.. If you delete a message in gmail (on your G1) then that message is deleted in outlook/exchange. Heck, if you READ a message on your G1 in gmail, it will instantly show up in outlook as read. And vice versa. If you move a file to a different folder on your phone, it moves that file in outlook/exchange as well.
This truly is a pretty all-encompassing exchange solution for the G1. I use it for my business and work email that's on exchange and it works really well.

aad4321 said:
I can only access my webmail client outside of work
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Well your work sucks. Lol. Guess you'll have to keep using the Wing for now until Aardvark is finished - and that is considering Aardvark even works.
It's a shame the company won't let you sync gmail with exchange.

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Why such negativity? It's like you just want to hate a nice piece of software.
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No, but if they're going to charge $50,- A YEAR, then I expect a proper working App, that syncs to Exchange dureclty using proper push, and not same half baked hacked together workaround using ANOTHER email client.
I think that's a pretty reasonable expectation.
If they were offering it for free, it would be an acceptable compromise for now.

Henchman said:
No, but if they're going to charge $50,- A YEAR, then I expect a proper working App, that syncs to Exchange dureclty using proper push, and not same half baked hacked together workaround using ANOTHER email client.
I think that's a pretty reasonable expectation.
If they were offering it for free, it would be an acceptable compromise for now.
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But thats the thing, it's really not "half baked" - I would prefer a one time license fee and also believe it's a bit expensive for what the program does... but they are the ONLY company with a real exchange solution right now. And at the end of the day, my contacts/calendar/email is sync'd with my exchange account 100% with a backup on gmail.
I think it's overpriced but I have to have my exchange on my phone so I don't have a choice. Because of their pricing, as soon as exchange support is released I will be dumping MailShadow - if it was fairly priced, I'd probably actually keep it over a true exchange support due to the backup and gmail integration.

I would rather pay (and I did) $19 for a license from Touchdown and have my phone poll and look actually work like a real program than what this program does for $50/year. If Touchdown doesnt get some things resolved like push (most important) or the options to see or open attachments/embedded jpg's, I will hope that Aardvark comes in where Touchdown falters. But as of now, I am happy with Touchdown until something better comes along....and MailShadow is not it.

somebody7 said:
I would rather pay (and I did) $19 for a license from Touchdown and have my phone poll and look actually work like a real program than what this program does for $50/year. If Touchdown doesnt get some things resolved like push (most important) or the options to see or open attachments/embedded jpg's, I will hope that Aardvark comes in where Touchdown falters. But as of now, I am happy with Touchdown until something better comes along....and MailShadow is not it.
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I've actually been using TouchDown and it's not that bad. I just set it to pull data every hour. One thing I'll warn you about is that it only pulls down data that hits the server after the initial connection and refresh. So, any back email you might have in your box won't be downloaded. Personally, at work I have everything on a 3 day archive, so my mailbox in 3 days won't have anything I received today, which makes it a non problem for me. But I have a feeling they'll probably fix it in the future anyway.

vr24 said:
But thats the thing, it's really not "half baked" - I would prefer a one time license fee and also believe it's a bit expensive for what the program does... but they are the ONLY company with a real exchange solution right now. And at the end of the day, my contacts/calendar/email is sync'd with my exchange account 100% with a backup on gmail.
I think it's overpriced but I have to have my exchange on my phone so I don't have a choice. Because of their pricing, as soon as exchange support is released I will be dumping MailShadow - if it was fairly priced, I'd probably actually keep it over a true exchange support due to the backup and gmail integration.
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It may not be "half baked" but a user agent that dumps the exchange data to gmail is not a "real exchange solution." This thing would get you all sorts of static from a corporate IT department!
If it works for you, great, but it's definitely not an ideal workaround by any stretch.

It is a real exchange solution. It may not be a real exchange solution for every company - but it is for others.
For me, it actually turned my G1 into a phone that has all my exchange data in real-time push. To me, that is a solution

somebody7 said:
I would rather pay (and I did) $19 for a license from Touchdown and have my phone poll and look actually work like a real program than what this program does for $50/year. If Touchdown doesnt get some things resolved like push (most important) or the options to see or open attachments/embedded jpg's, I will hope that Aardvark comes in where Touchdown falters. But as of now, I am happy with Touchdown until something better comes along....and MailShadow is not it.
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Touchdown is extremely limited with no push, whereas MailShadow gives you all your exchange data - both in AND out of the phone in real time. To me, that seems like a pretty ideal solution.
Considering you are using gmail/calendar/contacts - you are definitely getting a "real" program with MailShadow.
I think MailShadow is expensive, but you definitely get what they say you do, and that is ALL your exchange features you are used to, in real-time push - on the G1. You can set appointments on the calendar, get multiple days, instant notification of new emails, integrates with your phones contacts, etc.

Thats true that it doesnt have any push. But at the same time, I wont get in trouble w/my supervisors. Im in IT and we dont allow any corporate email to be forwarded anywhere (especially gmail). I work for a pharmaceutical company so obviously all email has to be secure. Company email going to Gmail is a really big concern for any big corporation, especially in the healthcare field. While I think its a good idea if its a small company or a company that doesnt care about security, it wont cut it for the others. That, on top of a 1 time fee as opposed to a yearly fee....its a no brainer. I change my polling to change by how often I need my email. If Im stepping away from my office, I have it polling every minute. If Im in the office and on my computer, I dont really need for it to be checked, so I can change it to every 5 or 10 minutes. I just hope that either they or Aardvark roll out push Exchange soon, in the meantime, I will continue to use Touchdown.

Yup, hopefully Aardvark comes out soon with a sweet Exchange solution soon.

REAL exchange support

a few of my thoughts & questions about android/htc magic
i dont really know how much you can mess around with the code, but what i think would be really great is gmail with exchange support. well, all my exchange mails would land in the gmail client but with the exchange label, and the same for contacts and calendar. does anyone know if this is possible? or is google planning some native exchange support for 2.0 maybe?
and i wonder have anyone been able to 'extract' the htc activesync function from the htc builds and used it for the ion or vanilla builds?
right now im running the stock htc build on a nordic version of the htc magic, whats the real difference between the htc/ion/vanilla build of android?

not sure why you need Exchange Support when you have Google Services running with Mails, Contacts & Calendars sync up in Android. for me can forget about the support and enjoy the Natively Run Google services.

I too really want a working exchange solution, Nitrodesk works but is more server intensive than the iphone say.
I keep my fingers crossed something happens soon

kumar_r100 said:
not sure why you need Exchange Support when you have Google Services running with Mails, Contacts & Calendars sync up in Android. for me can forget about the support and enjoy the Natively Run Google services.
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well, i want to be able to access my work mail, calendar & contacts.

Why not install the htc rom, which has native exchange support?

tallith,cud u kindly give a link for u above post? wud be highly appreciated thanks!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524229
Thats for the vodafone branded phone. Native exchange support and all..

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Why not install the htc rom, which has native exchange support?
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i have the htc rom, but it has a flaw, it doesnt support exchange servers that requires pin security

sleepr said:
i have the htc rom, but it has a flaw, it doesnt support exchange servers that requires pin security
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And it doesnt support user names with a space in them, massive oversight really.

Exchange Support on cooked ROMs

Are there any roms/ports 1.6 or above with exchange support? (contacts, mail, calendar)
I love the maps nav but couldn't live without Exchange unfortunately. One day when we switch to only blackberry *shudder*.

I'm interested too, it's a pain having to choose between 1.6 goodies and exchange support. Mail works on 1.6, but calendars and contacts don't as far as I know.

i'm yet to find a rom higher than 1.5 that has full exchange support.
they all seem to do either mail only or mail and contacts, but not calendar.
it's one of the reason i still use a cupcake rom.
i moved up to a donut rom and tried to get by without calendar, but it was just too frustrating.

[REQUEST] [APP] HTC Exchange email app for N1 Froyo

Need the HTC exchange email app, stock N1 froyo app doesnt work with my company's exchange email. HTC on EVO, Aria, Eris, Hero, Incredible....all work

cpcrazyfly said:
Need the HTC exchange email app, stock N1 froyo app doesnt work with my company's exchange email. HTC on EVO, Aria, Eris, Hero, Incredible....all work
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You gotta be doing something wrong, then... It's standard activesync technology in both. And the n1 one, at least, even let's you ignore SSL certs (which was a common problem in 2.0 and less I believe).

friend, i would love it if i was doing something wrong, but i have tried everything, every combination with the settings. Worked perfectly with the "work email" app but that isnt supported for froyo. stock N1 wont authenticate. its not a small company (Best Buy) and ive used it on WM, Blackberry, HTC phones listed above, and Palm WebOS with no problems. its just the N1 stock client.
im out of ideas

Very strange. I've had better luck with email app in 2.1 and 2.2 then any previous version. have you tried leaving domain blank and doing domain\username for username? just a thought.
Edit: scratch that, that's exactly how it is setup now (no domain box) doh.

i am using the stock 2.2 mail and syncing to exchange server. make sure you have the username right

i understand the client isnt defective, just not compatible with Best Buy's requirements I guess. I know its working for many, but the stock N1 2.2 email client will not work with Best Buy. where the email client on the various HTC phones it does work (aria, evo, incredible, etc)
i believe i am entering everything correctly.
Domain\Username: NA\x123456
server: sync.bestbuy.com

ok, question here gurus...is this problem with my work email not working on the N1 stock email client possibly due to my company's requirement for a password on the phone?
the HTC email client can enforce that and make you have a password on the phone(which with an app can be bypassed). is it possible that the N1 client is unable to enforce that policy and thats why it doesnt work?

cpcrazyfly said:
friend, i would love it if i was doing something wrong, but i have tried everything, every combination with the settings. Worked perfectly with the "work email" app but that isnt supported for froyo. stock N1 wont authenticate. its not a small company (Best Buy) and ive used it on WM, Blackberry, HTC phones listed above, and Palm WebOS with no problems. its just the N1 stock client.
im out of ideas
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Since when has BestBuy allowed employees to ActiveSync into their work email? When I worked there that was a huge no-no.

shafty023 said:
Since when has BestBuy allowed employees to ActiveSync into their work email? When I worked there that was a huge no-no.
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we salaried types are allowed

cpcrazyfly said:
ok, question here gurus...is this problem with my work email not working on the N1 stock email client possibly due to my company's requirement for a password on the phone?
the HTC email client can enforce that and make you have a password on the phone(which with an app can be bypassed). is it possible that the N1 client is unable to enforce that policy and thats why it doesnt work?
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Ahhhhhh, yes that is definitely why. It can be setup to disallow e-mail clients that don't implement the pin lock policy.
Touchdown (not free, but imo worth it) in the market does have the option to enforce that policy with a built in pin system.
K9 is a free activesync/exchange email client but I'm not sure it supports pin lock (I'd guess not, but I haven't looked).

no go. Touchdown doesnt work, and their support told me that it officially wont work with it.
tried k-9 but the app is horrible...id rather login through the wesite to check the email befire using it.
guess i gotta sell my nexus and use Incredible on my VZ line...im very saddened by this.

cpcrazyfly said:
no go. Touchdown doesnt work, and their support told me that it officially wont work with it.
tried k-9 but the app is horrible...id rather login through the wesite to check the email befire using it.
guess i gotta sell my nexus and use Incredible on my VZ line...im very saddened by this.
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Whose support told you in wouldn't? Your work or nitrodesk? It absolutely supports standard activesync pin policies. Not saying i don't believe you, I mean I'm sure you tried it, just find it kinda odd.

I have N1 Froyo and my company requires pin lock with exchange sync. Since the upgrade to Froyo, I have been able to sync without a problem.

nitrodesk says Best Buy is blocking all Android phones so Touchdown will not work. i gave them server settings and all.
its not totally true, Best Buy exchange works perfectly on HTC branded Android phones, Aria, Evo, Incredible, Hero, etc...it requires the cimple pin and works fine.
although does not work on N1 or Touchdown.

using free trial of RoadSync by Dataviz and its working flawlessly for my push email, calendar, tasks, and contacts. Wierd, its half the price of Touchdown and its working where Touchdown would not.

I am on CM 5.0.8 and has no problem to work with the corporate mail / corporate calendar taken from Droid.
Yesterday I have tried to upgrade to the new FRF91 and get connected to the corporate mail - without success.
In the logcat I have seen the following line: "AuthenticationHandler( 270): Authentication scheme ntlm not supported" and the device continued to ask me for the username / password.
I went back to CM 5.0.8 just because the corporate mail and the calendar.
So I guess something was not implemented properly in FRF91 for the corporate mails ....

Exchange support?

What features does the captivate support with exchange? Remote wipe etc...
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Since when does Exchange have a remote Wipe feature?
Exchange works just fine for me, it integrates contacts, calendar, email. Compared to windows mobile, it seems like it works pretty much flawlessly. I actually receives emails faster than outlook

NFSSAM said:
Since when does Exchange have a remote Wipe feature?
Exchange works just fine for me, it integrates contacts, calendar, email. Compared to windows mobile, it seems like it works pretty much flawlessly. I actually receives emails faster than outlook
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Remote wipe is dependent on your version of Exchange - Exchange 2007 supports it and is user selectable (webmail -> options -> mobile devices)
There are some bugs in the current captivate Exchange implementation:
1. Email - shows all folders under inbox, but only syncs inbox in real time. You need to open other folders and then it syncs. Not configurable
2. Contacts - Groups don't work, nor do they work with Google, unless you are using the AT&T address book - then they sort of work
3. Calendar - no selectable data - so if you have URL or Phone numbers in the calendar meeting you need to "Edit" then Copy, then paste to get a phone number out.
Otherwise PUSH and Sync work very well. They also have a feature that only WinMo ever implemented - Peak and off Peak times for data sync. So you can turn off PUSH while you sleep and on weekends - if you want.
Hopefully everyone will contact Samsung about these bugs.

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Since Exchange 2003 SP2 or later, IIRC. And since WM 5.0 and later.
Other than above mentioned shortcomings, I also found following issues with current Captivate Exchange support:
1. Deleted individual meetings from a recurring event still show up.
2. Some reported that deleted folders still show up as well.
3. No option to chose which folder to sync.
In addition, I don't believe it supports any of the encryption policy that may be required by your corporate IT.
IMO, the exchange support in Android is very basic and barely meets the requirement of most corporate IT.

I wonder if the Froyo Exchange client is better? Does anyone know?

@NFSSAM - Exchange has had remote wipe capabilities since Exchange 2003.
@alphadog00 - Here's another one: The Captivate shows folders that are in your recycle bin as accessible folders in Exchange.

Most Android phones do not support the password policy or encryption. My company requires at least a 4 digit password and the pattern lock does not meet that requirement so when I attempt to set up exchange, I of course receive an error. Touchdown is the best app I have found that supports all policies. You get a password prompt when accessing any Exchange data. The only phones that I have found that support password policies out of the box are HTC since they have their own Exchange client built in to Sense.

Yeah the security policies thing is a problem with my exchange as well.
Also, you cannot access the corporate contact lookup u less you added them to your contacts list in outlook.
Remote wipe does not work either.
Froyo adds a lot more features to exchange but it could be a while before we get 2.2.
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