It only took a month, but I FINALLY received my order from Fommie.com. Here is my quick review.
Size: Pretty much what I expected. It could possibly be a hair thinner, but at some point you lose much of the protection benefits.
Look: It's not bad for a case, but the phone is clearly sexier without it. I have had cases so ugly I wouldn't use it. Not the case here.
Functional: You finger must be directly over the power button now to make it work. It is a little annoying, but this probably makes it impossible to damage the button now so not entirely bad. It helps texting because the phone is simply easier to hold now. I havent used track ball/volume much, but they dont appear majorly effected. Maybe a small difference, but nothing to bother me.
Quality: The case honestly snapped together pretty weakly, but now that it is on i guess it is sturdy. There are also scratches and small screw ups on the back plate. I dont care much, but could bother others.
Summary: I am going to TRY to force myself to use this thing, and I have NEVER used a case before. I love this phone to much to risk damaging it, and i surely dropped my G1 ALOT. I have exactly 1 drop with the nexus from about 1 foot above a wood floor. I will worry less now. That said, if this thing starts bothering me it is gone.
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this phone is really light weight and somewhat solid
but has anyone tortured it yet? dropped it, scratched it, hit it on stuff?
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so it looks like if you drop it from ear height your pretty much screwed...
I have a problem with how the sides curve towards the face with nothing to stop the phone slipping up. I have managed to have the phone slip upwards when I press the power button to turn the phone on though haven't actually quite dropped it yet but can see it happening if I do this when distracted by a pen/paper. I really need a rubberized case for this.
Normally I'm not one to obsess over this sorta thing but... My one month old TF seems to creak a lot when I press on the left edge (below the buttons) and either I'm going mad (quite possible) or it's getting worse...
If I grab it by the black bezel it's solid, it's when my thumb happens to rest on the bronze edge that it feels off and creaks audibly, I can seemingly push it back against the plastic back and feel it snap in or something. The other side has a tiny bit of it but it's nowhere near as bad... I'm just worried it might be stressing the screen or could loosen even more.
Mine doesn't feel very solid as well.It's a B50 model. I don't think there is any space between screen and glass. But a lack of strength is noticeable especially compared to iPAd2.
RAMBO29 said:
Mine doesn't feel very solid as well.It's a B50 model. I don't think there is any space between screen and glass. But a lack of strength is noticeable especially compared to iPAd2.
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Agree..Price to Quality rato on TF...as well with anyother company. A reason why Apple commands a premium for QC.
I have exactly the same problem and think the creaks got worse since I bought my TF. Otherwise it's a great device but the browser is bad. And I spend 70% of the time on the tablet using it.
Mine developed the same problem down the left hand side after a couple of days of receiving it and just got worse and worse. sent it back after a week.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zfqx9-VHuE
The replacement doesn't creak like the old one but if i squeeze the edges around the power/volume buttons the back moves in so there's some looseness. Right now i don't notice it in normal use and considering it took a month to get a replacement it's not worth sending it back. But i reckon at some point in the future i'll have to sendit in for repair.
I really like this device, and have to say i'm really impressed with the updates and that Asus seems to be listening to their customers - but the build quality in my experience is not good, i'd have happily paid an extra £50 for a more solid/robust build.
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Normally I'm not one to obsess over this sorta thing but... My one month old TF seems to creak a lot when I press on the left edge (below the buttons) and either I'm going mad (quite possible) or it's getting worse...
If I grab it by the black bezel it's solid, it's when my thumb happens to rest on the bronze edge that it feels off and creaks audibly, I can seemingly push it back against the plastic back and feel it snap in or something. The other side has a tiny bit of it but it's nowhere near as bad... I'm just worried it might be stressing the screen or could loosen even more.
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Lots of answers here if you search.
I agree it's super annoying.
But to venture a guess........the 3G transformer has a SIM slot in the exact location of the creaky side, soooooooo, it must be the lack of the SIM slot and included hardware that makes this thing creak. it would have been nice if Asus had stuffed something else into the WIFI model to fill the void. This is my only complaint with this device.
Mine uused to creak only on the right side bottom quarter... but I've noticed that it's been creaky in other places lately too. :/ But then again, it's not really as bad as some of what I've heard, and it's definitely more solid than my HP (which of course, was not of the envy line).
Mine creaks in the same spot as yours (OP) but I have it in a pretty nice carbon-fiber case now and it's a non-issue.
ExploreMN said:
Mine creaks in the same spot as yours (OP) but I have it in a pretty nice carbon-fiber case now and it's a non-issue.
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What is the Carbon Fiber Case you have? Where is it from?
wilx said:
What is the Carbon Fiber Case you have? Where is it from?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17192114&postcount=283
Mine creaked and felt a little loose at first, then it stopped and everything feels really tight, i think messing with it one night i clicked something in place, the glass seems to sit more even as well.
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Hmm, thanks for the feedback guys... I guess if it ever gets worse I might put the warranty to good use. Right now it's sorta irksome but not bothersome enough for me to bother just yet.
I can sorta recreate the sound from that YouTube clip but only if I push back on the copper border the press in from the plastic back (ie pushing that section back and forth from both directions)... Meaning, if you obsess over it then it'll definitely drive you crazy and you'll probably even make it worse in the long run.
During normal handling mine definitely doesn't creak quite as much. I've sorta gotten into the habit of putting more of my hand around it when picking it up (when I've noticed it creak the most) versus just grabbing it by the very edge, which pretty much mitigates the issue. No creaking at all around the longer sides without the excess wrap around border so I don't even notice in a portrait orientarion (which is how I do most of my reading).
Honestly, if this continues to be my biggest complaint after a few months, I'll be pleased as punch. I just hope it doesn't get proggresively worse. I definitely wouldn't pay $100 more for a sslightly more solid feeling device without as many ports or forms of expansion (dock/microSD), but that's just me.
Likewise, if i don't obsess over it, it's not gonna bother me - not worth sending it off for a month at the moment. But at least we've got the warranty there if it gets worse.
So I've had an Xperia Z3 Compact for some time now. Not long after I got it I managed to break the original back (sheer absolute carelessness.) I've since had a long line of third party backs. Unfortunately, my biggest problem is that even the ones claiming to be tempered extra strong glass still seem to break 100x more easily than the screen (still doesn't have even so much as a scratch.) Obviously no one here can do anything about that. (Though someday I'd like to figure out if I can come up with some sort of plastic solution. Then I could even use a more permanent and better sealing glue than official screen/back replacement glue because presumably it wouldn't break and have to be replaced every so often.) One problem I am having that maybe can be addressed here is that they keep coming loose.
I believe I'm doing it right. First I shut down the phone first (since there's so much heat involved I want to stress it as little as possible in the process.) Next I put the back with the glue up and use a heat gun on the low setting for quite a while on it to get the glue as malleable as possible. Then I line it up and put it in quickly and apply a fair bit of weight (I'm afraid to put too much and break something in the process, but I've tried to give it a fair bit of weight) and leave it for hours (actually, typically I just leave it overnight.) Half the time it works great for a fair little while and half the time it only lasts a short while, but always I find the back coming loose eventually. (I do not bend or pry at my phone a lot or anything like that.) I would add here that while I keep my phone in my pocket all the time, I keep it in a case I've modified to help protect it where I even put a metal plate on one side to help keep it pretty flat (the last thing in the world I want is any damage to my screen, so yeah, I go a bit above and beyond...) This should keep it from flexing very much in that pocket and it should remain fairly flat as far as I know more or less all of the time.
One thing I've been wondering: it's very difficult to keep the whole thing heated thoroughly. Also, it's easy to overheat one area (while underheating another for example) as I managed to warp the material over the camera lens (next time I'll pop that out first and put that back in only just before putting the back on.) So I had a bit of a thought: why not use an oven? This could warm it much more evenly potentially, getting the heat in deeper and more consistently than I can do with a heat gun. Well, presumably it must work because why wouldn't it? But it does beg a few questions. Most importantly, what temperature would I even use? For an oven it would obviously be something relatively low. For example, might it be something about like ~100C/~200F? More? Less? I honestly don't know and this is my main question here. Would a toaster oven be too focused (eg with the heating elements too close to the glass)? Because it would really be best if I could use it instead of a full sized one. Has anyone ever done this before? I only ever found people using heat guns in googling around. But something isn't going right and I have to assume it's the consistency because nothing else even makes sense.
PS. Has anyone ever 3D printed a back or anything? If I ever do try to go plastic I'll probably have to cut something the hardest possible way with very little precision which is no small part of why I keep putting off even trying it. This thing will never be back to the full waterproof rating it originally had, but I do at least want it to be safe if I have to make an emergency call in the rain or something. (Well, that and finding the right plastic since it needs to be flexible and not brittle but tough enough to resist bumps without smashing into the battery or something if anything pokes it.) Getting sick of glass...
There wasn't a lot of covers out there for this phone but i had to get one cause I don't want to risk damaging it after a fall, i decided to go with this one attached. And i couldn't be any happier! Not only does it protect my phone but it's made it easier to use. Because of the phones design with the screen going right to the edge of the both the sides, top and bottom (although it's nice having a big screen) i found myself accidentally touching the sides while holding it a lot. Much more of an issue playing games in the horizontal mode and this was a big downside for me. As well as one hand typing was really hard with the screen being so long and the keyboard at the bottom it was just hard too type and hold the phone in one hand. This case ended up solving those issues for me by my surprise. The case doesn't take up any of the screen but because it adds a little length and width it stops me from accidentally touching the screen on the sides. And for one hand typing I'm able to sit a finger in the ring at the back turning one hand typing from near impossible to the simplest thing ever. This sounds a lot like an add haha but i just want to share my experience with people because it's made the phone a lot more enjoyable for me. You don't have to get the exact one i did, any case with the ring at the back should do just as good.
TLDR: get a case with a ring stand at the back.
Looks like a good case, do you have a link for it?
I am going to buy a xundd case tomorrow, its probably the best we got locally.
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Dropped from 7 feat ?
Even temper didn't breaked
Angelina7 said:
Looks like a good case, do you have a link for it?
I am going to buy a xundd case tomorrow, its probably the best we got locally.
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https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/264349134560
Here's a link for it. Let me know if you get it, and your thoughts on it when you do
you can watch this video before you buy the case
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2zUyF_FQ-A
It was probably only a matter of time before the structural weakness of the ROG5 started showing in accidents and broken devices. My device is officially broken from damage around the mid section between the 2 batteries and the side USB/cooler port and antenna soft spot - exactly as highlighted on some videos. As a result, connectivity goes on and off and reception is extremely weak.
To be clear, the device has not been bent violently, dropped, smashed or anyhting like that, there are no physical bends visible other than I noticed one corner of the glass back plate looks a tiny tiny bit detached from the body of the phone. I'm guessing the device might have been bent just enough while in a pocket to damage it. No broken glass plates.
Up to you if go for this device but everyone should be aware of this. The device is with ASUS, if they don't fix it under the warranty and the price for fixing it isn't on the low side, I'll take the loss and switch to another brand.
If you're absolutely going for ASUS, the ROG 3 might be a much better choice - It's better built, has better tempretures/battery life, does custom reccovery like TWRP without pain, probably cheaper now and I bet it performs exactly as well as ROG 5 for 99.5% of games/apps during the remaining lifetime of both devices.
I have feeling the ROG 5 is the device ASUS will regret... It's basically an overheated, inefficient,badly tuned version of ROG 3 with a weak body and some overpriced expanded memory..
Thanks for the hint: however I'm really sceptical to be honest. I can't believe this can happen due to bending in normal pocket (or maybe I don't want to believe it because I like the phone)
I really wish you best of luck that Asus repairs it for free and I would like to know the outcome.
What does your pockets look like? Are they too small/tight because I tried it and whatever I do my current phone isn't under pressure at any time when it's in my pockets.
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Thanks for the hint: however I'm really sceptical to be honest. I can't believe this can happen due to bending in normal pocket (or maybe I don't want to believe it because I like the phone)
I really wish you best of luck that Asus repairs it for free and I would like to know the outcome.
What does your pockets look like? Are they too small/tight because I tried it and whatever I do my current phone isn't under pressure at any time when it's in my pockets.
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I didn't believe it either. Normal pocket size and I never carry my phone in the back pocket where you risk sitting on it. My best guess is the device was in a front pocket while wearing jeans and has bent at an angle on the weak point while sitting down or something just enough for some internal circuit or antenna lines to bend or break. Don't put this to test with your own device - you'll wreck it...
Honestly, the device is meant to be used almost exclusively with the cooler. This is the same reason I never take it off, but turn it off, when putting it in a pocket. Beyond the obvious improvements to heat concerns, it also reinforces the center of the device to prevent bending.
Sure, it does make it a bit bulkier and isn't going to prevent the device from pressure if you wear skinny jeans a size smaller than they should be for proper circulation, but it will definitely stop it from randomly folding in half without breaking that first.
I get dragged into a lot of unplanned physical activity without thinking about preventing stress on the phone. I've been unable to confirm that the phone will simply break over time.
I can only assume it was one of those perfect scenarios, not unlike the Note 7 fires. It is obviously a possibility, but the actual number of people that will ever experience it is probably too low and it's just not enough of a safety concern to justify a recall or discontinuation.
Edit: Now that I think about it, I actually tried to use a Pelican G40 case to store the phone and cooler during travel (and add water protection). The case is just slightly too short and the device had to be angled for a tight fit. This would be a lot like placing the phone in a tight pocket. I would be interested to see bend tests done with the cooler.
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Honestly, the device is meant to be used almost exclusively with the cooler. This is the same reason I never take it off, but turn it off, when putting it in a pocket. Beyond the obvious improvements to heat concerns, it also reinforces the center of the device to prevent bending.
Sure, it does make it a bit bulkier and isn't going to prevent the device from bending if you wear skinny jeans a size smaller than they should be for proper circulation, but it will definitely stop it from randomly folding in half from normal use.
I've mentioned before that I only use my device with WiFi, but I live in an area where a lot of neighbors share their connections and get together often. I play Nerf war, skateboard, and all the other stuff that the younger parents get dragged into by being close with them. I should also mention that I have no kids, so it's not something I consider in my own purchases. Knock on wood that I've never been able to confirm that the phone will simply break over time.
I can only assume it was one of those perfect scenarios, not unlike the Note 7 fires. It is obviously a possibility, but the actual number of people that will ever experience it is probably too low and it's just not enough of a safety concern to justify a recall or discontinuation.
Edit: Now that I think about it, I actually tried to use a Pelican G40 case to store the phone during travel (and add water protection). The case is just slightly too short and the device had to be angled for the latch to work. This would be a lot like placing the phone in a tight pocket and the cooler kept it rigid. I would be interested to see those bend tests done with the cooler.
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If the device is meant to be used exclusively with the cooler, ASUS should explicitly make that clear and include one with every phone, in which case the design of the Lenovo Legion is probably better - i.e just build a cooler hump into the phone regardless of the looks. The ROG 5 cooler is waay to bulky for pocket use for most people.
I think the weak mid body pf ROG5 is just due to sloppy design - which is unacceptable for what is meant to be a flagship device.
Either way, keep this phone in a bag or jacket pocket and make sure it's not at a bending angle at any time. Seems you don't need a big squeeze to break stuff inside the phone. I don't know what's under the mid section, it could be some antenna rails or other connectors that easily break or bend out of function. Again, I don't recommend testing any of this, the risk of breaking your device is high...
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If the device is meant to be used exclusively with the cooler, ASUS should explicitly make that clear and include one with every phone, in which case the design of the Lenovo Legion is probably better - i.e just build a cooler hump into the phone regardless of the looks. The ROG 5 cooler is waay to bulky for pocket use for most people.
I think the weak mid body pf ROG5 is just due to sloppy design - which is unacceptable for what is meant to be a flagship device.
Either way, keep this phone in a bag or jacket pocket and make sure it's not at a bending angle at any time. Seems you don't need a big squeeze to break stuff inside the phone. I don't know what's under the mid section, it could be some antenna rails or other connectors that easily break or bend out of function. Again, I don't recommend testing any of this, the risk of breaking your device is high...
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Both Pro and Ultimate versions DO come with one, but one of the ways to make a cheaper version is to leave out some accessories and sell them separately. They may still expect you to buy it and may not prioritize the concerns of those that don't. Besides, building something prone to burning out and breaking down into the phone is a terrible decision. Lenovo will no doubt get their own backlash for that down the road.
I feel like carrying the phone in a bag or jacket is just as big of a risk. It would make more sense to get a rigid holster or sleeve. I don't feel like the design was sloppy, but definitely not as durable as typical phones. Much like the Nvidia Shield, I am sure there are a lot of things they wanted to make possible that ended up being a lot of compromises.
I'll be interested to see how widespread this becomes and how Asus goes about handling it. The number of imports / exports mean a lot of people are running around without proper warranty coverage.
Wow it makes my Note 10+'s battery replacement look like a cakewalk.
Yeah you don't want to flex this phone...
Update >> ASUS fixed the device. There was damage to both reception as well as reading the SIM slots. The main board had to be replaced. They did it free of charge under the warranty, no questions asked. I think they know they've messed up..
It sounds like Asus covered exactly what is written in the terms of the warranty, which is hardware failure without any obvious signs of abuse. I don't know that I would call it Asus knowing they messed up, but it's good they fixed it and hopefully you will have better luck this time around.
Thank you very much for letting us know. That might at least mean we don't have to worry too much