Hello all. First post on these forums. Stumbled upon it Googling around for some answers, and judging from some of the threads here I think I found the right place.
Just a couple days ago I finally got a cell phone that doesn't feel prehistoric. A Motorola Q9c. I'm using it on Page Plus if that matters. I did a hard reset, then upgraded the phone to Windows Mobile 6.1 using RSD Lite. What I'm wondering is:
Is it possible to update the phone further, for example 6.5.3, or any other version past 6.1?
and
What would the process entail?
It wasn't too hard to find the right files, put the phone into bootloader mode, and use RSD Lite. Figuring this next step won't be so easy, but I'm willing to give it a shot.
I don't really know but I really don't think it would really be worth it in my opinion. The main thing wm6.5 changed is making the interface more finger friendly, but your phone doesn't have a touchscreen so I don't see much benefit. I could definitely be wrong though; I don't know much about winmo smartphone edition.
JesusFreak316 said:
I don't really know but I really don't think it would really be worth it in my opinion. The main thing wm6.5 changed is making the interface more finger friendly, but your phone doesn't have a touchscreen so I don't see much benefit. I could definitely be wrong though; I don't know much about winmo smartphone edition.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There were other improvements as well, and sure, it may not be anything groundbreaking, but I'd still like to try.
WM 6.1 ROM
Sorry to be beating a dead horse here but can someone PLEASE help me with getting my Q9c to 6.1, I got it back when it first came out so it's not eligible for the upgrade to moto website. Thanks in advance,
Depends on your provider m8.
I used my old Moto q9c with US Cellular, and they provided me with my 6.1 ROM update in store.
I'd recommend talking to your provider, though the phone is a bit of an antique nowdays. Most people use either the HTC Snap or the Moto q9h. [to my knowledge]
Related
I current have a old Sony Erickson...gay...and a Cingular 3125...love it...when it stays on
Im getting my upgrade....like im elgible now...
I want a smart phone...here is my list
ATT 8525 129.99 Refurb
BB Curve 99.99 Refurb
Palm Centrino 99.99
Palm 750 199.99
Palm 680 149.99
I am only 16....text addict...so i want good texting...My friend has a palm 680(that was supposed to be mine) and i love the threaded text/chat freature that it has. So i found an app for wm5/6 that can do the same. I want to mod my device..so that gives a lean to wm. I like wm b/c of the similarity to my computer. BB seem to be very stable compared to the wm devices. and i hear palm has an outdated os...but thats pretty irrelevant to my life...lol. But the 8525 has wifi...and i would love to have that...but which route would yall go?
anybody...i need some opinions...
Those are pretty much the same phones I looked at when deciding what to buy.
My thoughts were, Blackberry - add on software to expensive and little of it.
Palm OS, Not multitasking
Treo with Windows Mobile, ok, but I have large hands and keyboard kinda small.
HTC 8525, my choice. Best of all worlds. Not perfect, but close for me.
My son just got a blackberry perl, and he loves it. Does lots of texting, but keeps asking me where he can get the games and stuff I have on my 8525. Most aren't even available.
I text quite a bit too, but not like my son, and most of the time I don't open the keyboard to do it. I use a program called Calligrapher, and just write on the screen and have it converted to text. Works great.
Final choice is up to you. Go to a few of the stores in the area, and see how each device feels in your hands. That will help you make the best decision.
Good Luck.
Thanks...and can somebody explain to me how to mod this device...because i just want to put a couple of apps on it..maybe a few games and such...nothing major...i wanted to do some iphone similar interfacing mods...but i probably wont.
so can somebody explain how to upgrade to wm6...and what all this ROM stuff means to me and the performance and customizability of the device?
anyone else
Installing apps and games is very easy. You have 2 basic methods, you can download a cab file directly to the phone and install from there or download a windows installer and install to your phone from the PC through the activesync connection. Most of the applications or interface customizations you talked about would be done in one of these two manors.
Upgrading your device from WM5 to 6 will require to to flash a new rom on the phone. You have many options to choose from when picking a new rom. You can use the generic version from HTC, or go with one of the many custom cooked roms on this site. You just have to read each of the threads for each of the roms to see the pros and cons of each. Just like the phones, there is no perfect choice and you are the only one who can decide which rom is right for you.
These phones can be as easy or as complicated as you want them to be. If this is all new to you, try starting off with the Generic HTC rom, or the official WM6 rom from your carrier, if one exists.
To get started, read the wiki for the hermes and start reading the posts in the hermes forums, and as always, ask questions, but try searching first.
Hope this helps!
anymore opinions as i am very close to my purchase...
WIth the Tilt 2 and WM 6.5 coming will the Fuze see an upgrade or will it be only for the Tilt 2?
Good question, but highly unlikely.
AT&T has already released a new rom for the Fuze with several fixes over 6 months ago. I'd be really amazed if they do offer a 6.5 rom for the Fuze. Though in all reality, i still fail to see why people stick with an oem 6.1 rom when 6.5 has so many improvements.
rumor has it that they're not going to give the upgrade for fuze owners. You'll have to deal with the cooked roms, (which i think really rocks, especially NRG's rom). People don't like trying new things and it's also about the big change from 6.1 to 6.5 which require a slight learning curve. but if you're here, then you're willing to learn.. i hope.
Agreed, huge NRGrom fan here, the latest release (genesis) is really nice!
you'd be quite happy with it - there is not much to fear about cooking. So long as you can have activesync connected to your phone for 10 minutes without interruption for the hardspl and rom install, you're golden (translation, don't try with activesync 3.0 or something really old that may not be reliable)
I personally REALLY like the new start menu for windows 6.5 - especially on newer builds where you can click and hold to move around programs
You will definitely not regret installing a cooked rom (again, my personal vote for newbs goes for EnergyROM)
rumours that AT&T is upgrading samsung jet & epix to wm6.5.
There are changes that fuze will be upgraded too.
whyhon said:
rumours that AT&T is upgrading samsung jet & epix to wm6.5.
There are changes that fuze will be upgraded too.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Does anybody know of a date yet?
Seeing as how 6.5 is not officially to be released until october 6'th when the windows marketplace goes live, we'll see how long after that so AT&T can 'customize' the experience / Butcher the hell out of the rom.
I have a good feeling as soon as 6.5 comes out we are going to see a LOT more people hate their oem rom's.
i really really doubt there will be a 6.5 upgrade. to get an official rom approved, it requires the check off of the manufacturer (htc) and carrier (att) and maybe microsoft, im not really sure about them and winmo licensing to devices. but it would be easier to only focus on the newest devices. if you really want 6.5 they would prefer you buy a new device with it. ive been running 6.5 on my fuze for forever. it rtm'd in may so thats the real "release date" of 6.5. you dont buy windows mobile so dont focus on dates. new builds come out everday since forever. itll be interesting to see what htc does with 6.5 cause the new builds are ugly. for some reason microsoft decided to "improve" the interface without consulting on htc's design brilliance but whatever. we will see.
Does anyone know if you can install a cooked rom using Vista or Windows 7? I don't have access to a WinXP box right now.
Thanks
of course you can. theres no real difference. i have both vista and 7 for cooking. just right click and click run as administrator.
Cassetti said:
...Though in all reality, i still fail to see why people stick with an oem 6.1 rom when 6.5 has so many improvements.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Really? Seriously? Granted, there are "under the hood" improvements but the UI is a bad joke.
How did it happen that MS can't even line up a grid of icons on a rectangular screen?
I'll tell you how. The artistiicly inclined design folks missed a meeting, and a geek with a slide rule explained how there would be more area for your fat thumb if icons were arranged in a "honycombed" grid.
This absurdity never got caught in time. Too late. Can't change it now. Wait for WM7.
Remember this whenever you look at your device.
Just my opinion. Doesn't matter. Some will be happy with whatever slop MS ships.
Sorry. I couldn't resist.
hi,
recently one of my friend give me at&t fuze of following Specification
ROM=1.95.502.5 WWE
Radio=1.02.25.32
now need help to upgrade the rom and radio,
i tried latest TAEL rom but it is giving me error.
can u suggest me any idea...
thanks in advance..
suraj
Windows has already released phones with winmo 7 (the TG02 from toshiba?). My HTC touch pro 2 is still running winmo 6.1! When is sprint going to provide the update to 6.5, which by now is already outdated?
Is anyone else frustrated by this? Hasn't the hacking community already built up a 6.5 rom for the touch pro 2? Why can't sprint get with the program?
"The touchscreen interface should be slicker on the TG02, not just because of the improved touchscreen, but also because the TG02 runs the Windows 6.5.3 operating system, rather than the Windows 6.5 operating system."
http://www.which.co.uk/news/2010/02/toshiba-unveils-tg02-and-k01-mobile-phones-203779
Windows Phone 7 will be coming out late 2010, if at all this year.
If you really want windows 6.5 just use one of the cooked roms, they will probably be more suited towards your needs anyways.
im fustrated
i don't know why sprint hasn't got 6.5 already, like you said other companies have 6.5 and even windows 7.. im frustrated and willing to upgrade with a custom rom someone made, but i just dont want to because that might ruin my warranty..i think lol..
coolwater22 said:
i don't know why sprint hasn't got 6.5 already, like you said other companies have 6.5 and even windows 7.. im frustrated and willing to upgrade with a custom rom someone made, but i just dont want to because that might ruin my warranty..i think lol..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
technically it does...I waited for vzw 6.5 to see if it was any good...was less responsive than the original stock rom, so I tried mighty mikes and am really enjoying it.
EDIT: i tried giving the link for the Winmo 7 phone that I got my info from. Just google "engadget windows 7 hands on" and you'll find what I was referring to. I would post a link but I need to be verified first.
I got this new TP2 because of my original TP warranty (it was freezing so Sprint gave me a TP2 for FREE).
So I want to keep up this warranty so I can keep my total equipment protection and replace this one when it gets old.
But sprint is saying 6.5 will have all of these cool new personalization features that are specific for the TP2.
the suspense is killing me! Winmo 6.1 is such a drag...
Also, can these 6.5 ROMS have the new features that sprint is talking about for this phone?
Oh, and also I just want to say I LOVE THIS PHONE
redcannon said:
Also, can these 6.5 ROMS have the new features that sprint is talking about for this phone?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Most likely one of the builds will have it. Check out the ppc forums for a consolidated CDMA app forum:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=98
burtonsnow8 said:
Most likely one of the builds will have it. Check out the ppc forums for a consolidated CDMA app forum:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I appreciate the link but "flashing" a rom is, to me, a dark and mysterious process that I do not understand. Also, i cannot lose my warranty, it is the ticket to my next pocket pc.
I guess I just have to be patient...but I've been using windows for years so I'm used to that
redcannon said:
I appreciate the link but "flashing" a rom is, to me, a dark and mysterious process that I do not understand. Also, i cannot lose my warranty, it is the ticket to my next pocket pc.
I guess I just have to be patient...but I've been using windows for years so I'm used to that
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Honestly at first I was a little apprehensive because I had seen mention of bricking your phone. It is super easy though once you get into it. Just take the time to read the stickies and follow the steps. I haven't had to take my phone in for warranty yet though so I'm not sure how it will turn out in that aspect. If you are worried don't do it. A phone that works is better than paperweight.
Good Evening all!! My TP2 for sprint is on the way (hopefully tomorrow but possibly monday)! I have been out of the upgrading game for a few years now. I am coming from a mogul and even in the last year I haven't done anything to that because I felt like I have explored everything in the previous few years. Will anyone point me in the direction of some good links? I feel like I am starting all over with this whole process. anyway... where do I begin? I've been looking for stickies for sprint unlocking but it seems even the basic terms are beyond me....PLEASE HELP!!!
P. S. I formerly used and loved DCDs' ROMs.....what out now is similar to those?
Hi, welcome back to XDA. Seems like you enjoy custom ROMs and personalizing your phone. Everything you need will be in this forum because we use CDMA phones. Seeing as how you are probably going to use a custom ROM, you will first want to check out the Hard SPL thread here.
Once again it is very important to make sure you download CDMA versions as the GSM version can possibly brick your device. The same goes for downloading custom ROMs, which i suggest you download from PPC Geek's CDMA TP2 upgrades.
Below is the configuration that I use. To review different benchmarks on some different custom roms check out the PPC geeks ROM Showdown.
Best of luck with your device and always remember, if you don't know, READ IT AGAIN. If you still don't know, Search the forums. If you still don't know ask one of the experts here
thanks you very much for your response. i'm going to begin "studying" tonight. My TP2 is scheduled to be here before 3 on Monday (so excited). is it all everybody thought it would be and more? I've been out of the upgrading scene for years
hey, i recently did the same thing (upgrade from mogul to TP2)
as burtonsnow linked, HSPL is stickied in this forum
personally i use NRG's rom (http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=86489)
i used to use DCD because it was lightweight, but the TP2 doesnt have the same RAM issues as the mogul, so i found i can indulge in a rom with some more eye candy
anyway, hope you like the TP2, im loving mine all my iphone fanboy/girl friends who thought my mogul was "nice, but not as good as an iphone" nearly **** themselves when they say my TP2 (they all want one now lol)
radios and such
is there a list of what radios work best with certain roms (and works well with gps)? when i had the mogul i used to use garmin mobile xt...is that the best program to use for the TP2?
i dont think there is as big a selection of radio roms for the TP2, ive really only seen the sprint stock radio around
i use TomTom on both mogul and TP2, so i cant comment on garmin
I have until 12AM tonight to decide if I accept a 7 Pro / HTC Arrive for £120.
The offer is tempting however having researched WM7 I just don't know if I should wait and get a cheap TP2 with 6.5 instead.
It seems everything I loved about WM6.5 is gone in WM7 which appears to be more like an iOS interface and locked out of many apps. I know there is some improvement in Mango but this just seems to be more of an enhancement over the original canvas.
Currently using a TP1 but the keys have worn out.
Any contributions would be appreciated.
matt09 said:
I have until 12AM tonight to decide if I accept a 7 Pro / HTC Arrive for £120.
The offer is tempting however having researched WM7 I just don't know if I should wait and get a cheap TP2 with 6.5 instead.
It seems everything I loved about WM6.5 is gone in WM7 which appears to be more like an iOS interface and locked out of many apps. I know there is some improvement in Mango but this just seems to be more of an enhancement over the original canvas.
Currently using a TP1 but the keys have worn out.
Any contributions would be appreciated.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What do you use your phone for? What would you want to use your phone for?
How much does the apps matter to you? What apps do you 'need'?
Are you into Music subscriptions? Are you into Xbox games?
I don't use an Xbox and am not interested in music subscriptions.
I don't tend to use it for internet much either, mainly calls and texts but I have alot of rare apps relating to hobbies like tone signal generators and other stuff, it seems all of these would be gone.
Is it true that the phone can still not be accessed as a drive and has to go through web software still as this really puts me off the device.
matt09 said:
I don't use an Xbox and am not interested in music subscriptions.
I don't tend to use it for internet much either, mainly calls and texts but I have alot of rare apps relating to hobbies like tone signal generators and other stuff, it seems all of these would be gone.
Is it true that the phone can still not be accessed as a drive and has to go through web software still as this really puts me off the device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think in that case 6.5 is mostly a better choice. However the Gen1 phones have gone to a stage full unlock where you could use the root tools to edit registry, custom ROMs, use file explorers, advanced config tool etc - that lets you use your phone to side load apps, more or less as an usb drive too. However, I am not very sure if all your apps can come with you. The kernel is different and I am pretty sure there will be limitations to it.
I am guessing there is no way a stock WM 6.5 install would work on this phone?
It seems a dreadful shame that such a great piece of hardware is essentially going to waste from locked software since the specs of this phone are very nice.
Thanks
matt09 said:
I am guessing there is no way a stock WM 6.5 install would work on this phone?
It seems a dreadful shame that such a great piece of hardware is essentially going to waste from locked software since the specs of this phone are very nice.
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i personally have an htc 7 pro which is the arrive. and i can say after 10/11 month of use, its a really good phone. i have all the apps that i need, and WP7 is just the future, and dont look back on wm6.5. or do you still run you PC on a win95??? just look in the future, there are coming all the apps that you need for wp7 in the future, but the new ones arent coming to wm6.5.
and the future for wp7 holds a new system, which is about to come later this year. i mea nthe wp8. and all thing tend that its an update that all users of wp7 get. sooner or later
matt09 said:
I am guessing there is no way a stock WM 6.5 install would work on this phone?
It seems a dreadful shame that such a great piece of hardware is essentially going to waste from locked software since the specs of this phone are very nice.
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not at the moment. The system is pretty much locked down and secured. Even if someone is able to have custom ROMs on most WP7.5 phones, I think they might prefer making custom WP7.5 ROMs. It might be hard to find a ROM chef willing to port a WM6.5 to WP7.5 hardware!
drupad2drupad said:
Not at the moment. The system is pretty much locked down and secured
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok thanks that pretty much settles it then, i just wish it was possible to upgrade the TP2 hardware there seems to be no equivalent other than the expensive Droid phones
matt09 said:
Ok thanks that pretty much settles it then, i just wish it was possible to upgrade the TP2 hardware there seems to be no equivalent other than the expensive Droid phones
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Could you not keep your old phone as your toy for hobbies and get a new WP7 phone? You never know you might like it! Plus in a few months or even a year while you continue your hobbies on the old phone, someone might be able to think of having 6.5 on WP7 (to me I will still be surprised if anyone wants to go back!)?
I am saying this with a huge stone on my heart and bitting a few too many bullets but ---
IF you think one of the droid boys can let you use your old hobby apps on those phones, get a droid.
I have the 7 Pro and I have to say it really is a great phone. I wouldnt go back to TP2 or similar anymore.