Okay... so I have never played around with using different ROMs, unlocking phones, or anything to do with hacking perfectly good devices. I want to start!
I am quite confident that I have the technical know how to play around with the above mentioned items. I have spent significant time reading up on the different programs, methods, ROMs, issues, fixes, etc. I understand the risks and am willing to try some new things on my TP2 from Telus (CDMA).
My objective right now is to simply play around with some different ROMs. At a later date I may be interested in unlocking the GSM radio to work on any US/Canadian carrier. But for now, simply custom ROMs.
Before I venture off into the unknown I'd like a couple of questions answered if possible that I can't seem to find answers to:
1) Does the HardSPL offered here (rhodiumw.htc-unlocks.com/hard-spl.php by "OliNex" team) require the phone to be unlocked first (CID/Security/SIM Unlocker)?
2) If the phone does not need to be unlocked first before using HardSPL, is there any complications unlocking the phone after?
3) I see that it is possible to revert back to a stock ROM if necessary (for warranty, etc). I notice there is a Telus Stock ROM listed at PPCGeeks, and that the HardSPL info refers to putting back on the original SPL (v0.63.0000) as a final step (obviously for warranty). My question is that I have v0.62.0000 on the Telus TP2 and is it possible to get this SPL somewhere? I don't want to run into issues with warranty if it should be v0.62.0000 and they see v0.63.0000 loaded...
*My knowledge on the separation of SPL and ROM is a little limited right now, so maybe this is packed with the Telus Stock ROM? Please clarify if possible.
I think that should be it for questions before I move forward. Basically I want to ensure I can put my device back to its original condition if necessary and that the resources to do that are available right now.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
1: no, in fact its the other way around, HardSPL must be run before the phone can be SIM unlocked
2: none
3: i think SPL updates can be packed into rom updates, but im not sure, i know one of the features of HardSPL (other than flashing custom roms) is that it cannot be automatically overwritten, so there must be cases where people are flashing official roms and getting SPL updates as well
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Hi there,
I am pretty new to the forum and I havent had much experience with locked / unlocked devices so my question might be a bit naive.
I wanted to buy the AT&T Fuze from ebay and the offer says its unlocked.
Does that mean I can use it in Pakistan and Middle East. And secondly, can I change its ROM to the standard middle east rom version.
I ll be thankful if someone could guide me regarding the problem.
Thanks
yes you can
unlocking your phone will allow you to use your phone with another service provider (instead of just At&t).
You can change your ROM regardless of whether your phone is unlocked or not.
I'll get specific for you.
1. Sim unlocked
(the most common unlocked terminology) means you can put any sim in the device and use that carriers network.
As far as ROM flashing goes (don't get the two confused)
2. Security unlocked and Hard SPL.
Hard SPL is for flashing a ROM, However since you live outside the U.S. you might want to flash a Radio, This is were Security Unlocking comes into play.
If you want my recommendation, Use "Olipro's" unlocker in the Raphael Rom Development section. It is worth the money and very easy to use.
trancer_84 said:
unlocking your phone will allow you to use your phone with another service provider (instead of just At&t).
You can change your ROM regardless of whether your phone is unlocked or not.
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I really hope no one reads this post and just decides to take a Stock Fuze and flash it without HARD SPL.
thanks for your comments..
really informative ..
but can anyone please suggest some thread for explanation of terms like hard spl and radio etc ...
fahadriaz49 said:
thanks for your comments..
really informative ..
but can anyone please suggest some thread for explanation of terms like hard spl and radio etc ...
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I already did, read post 4
Everything you ever wanted to know is in the WIKI.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael
Sup xda,
I've been dabbling in custom Android ROMs since I got my HTC Hero a few months after launch, and although I mostly understand how everything works I'd like to learn more about the inner workings of our phone software.
I hear the phrase SPL thrown around a lot, such as MoDaCo's unlocked Hero SPL and the idea that playing with the SPL is one way to brick your phone if you mess up. From these scattered discussions, I've gathered that the SPL is some piece of extremely low-level software that must have control over some basic phone functions and hardware, but I want to know more. I don't even know what SPL stands for, or what (exactly) it does - any kind and knowledgeable members care to enlighten me?
An SPL, unlocks the phones bootloader which the OEM locks down so you can only put ROMS from your carrier on the phone. If you flash an SPL you can load any custom ROM on your phone.
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An SPL, unlocks the phones bootloader which the OEM locks down so you can only put ROMS from your carrier on the phone. If you flash an SPL you can load any custom ROM on your phone.
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BUT how to do find out what SPL you hav????. I want to load the mango roms, but do not know how to determine if i have HSPL or SPL 4.XX as I saw in another forum, it will "brick" my phone if I attempt to load those roms with HSPL.
And please someone explain i tin "SP-for-dummies". I'm new to the phone hacking world.
Moderator, please do not delete/lock this topic, I know that there is a separate one for HardSPL however considering how many people with Mobilicity HTC Snap are encountering the same problem I think that we deserve a place to discuss this particular issue.
Here is how it goes for me:
1) Attempted creating a GOLDCARD (just in case, to avoid bricking my device which happened to other ppl here). Not possible, the new PSAS does not allow creating a Maple goldcard with a Maple device (why?). I created one for G1 from their website but I wouldn't risk using it unless I really have to.
2) Followed all the instructions for HardSPL using 1.17. Everything went well until the point where it asks to confirm USB Connectivity. The update utility was not able to find the device. I disconnected and reconnected it. Windows 7 installed a new driver. Then I ran ROMUpdateUtility again. This time it found the device but the screen was a bit weird (flashing from image empty to image version 1.0.00). Anyway, I proceeded and it finished with 100%. Then it restarted the device. In the bootloader the SPL is still 1.24 like everybody else is experiencing, no changes.
3) Repeated using 1.19 . Exactly the same results.
Questions: is it possible that this has something to view with the custom Mobilicity ROM (which is nowhere to be found on the HTC website)? May be JumpSPL only works with Generic/T-Mobile WinMo ROMs?
Given how many people here are having bricked devices and HTC/Mobilicity don't care to release the shipped ROM, would it be reasonable for us (as a group) to ask the PSAS guys to make a page like http: //psas.revskills.de/?q=goldcard for the Maple? My understanding is that if you have a goldcard you can load a ROM which doesn't match your CID, i.e. people with bricked Mobilicity devices will be able to load the Wind ROM and still have a usable HTC Snap 3G.
I second that!
Yes, Mobilicity users need some fix to this problem. Is there a workaround that will allow installing the Wind Mobile one (which is the exact exact same but sold as Maple instead of Snap) since the Mobilicity Snap is the like the only phone on htc canada's website with no ROM download.
But don't you need to HardSPL your device before you can install the Wind ROM?
I have broke it!
How can I can resurrect?
I have HTC Mozart with latest MANGO update from ZUNE!!
It is from Germany, T-MOBILE with all their apps and addons I don't need here in Bosnia!!! BTW, it SIM Unlocked!!!
How, if possible, to make it run with ORIGINAL HTC WP7.5 Mango!!!???
I searched for T-Mobile MANGO ROM but it nowhere to be found,
all I have available on NET is older ROMS from T-Mobile but I am afraid to BRICK my device if I try DOWNGRADING it from Mango to older BOOTS such as 1.28 or 1.30!
Any solution to this, I would appreciate your help!!!
The capital letters and explamation marks don't actually make it easier to help you, BTW.
If you're trying to de-brand the phone, why would you want a T-Mobile-branded ROM? You just want a stock HTC ROM. It has to be for the correct phone, but tht's about it.
If your bootloader (SPL) is already on version 5, you may have a problem replacing the ROM. If you're on 4.5 or lower, you should be able to flash any official ROM without damaging the device.
ok, thanks
Hey all,
First of all I want to say I am glad that I found this forum and community. I think you really can help me out with my (futher) questions.
Since my Telekom branded HTC Mozart won't get the tethering update I am on the search to debrand my HTC Mozart.
I already read that it is essential to have the right SPL Version, now when I enter the bootloader mode I get following data:
PD67100
SPL-4.5.XXXX.X
Now I have a few Questions:
1. Do I need to check other data before starting to debrand the Phone?2. Will I get further Updates via ZUNE after I debranded my Phone?3. What are the main reasons to
a. leave it branded?
b. debrand the Phone?4. Are there some issues with apps form the Marketplace after the debrand?
And last but not least:
5. Where can I find a working debranded ROM?
I would really be thankful for any kind of hints and help
Best regards
WPeter7
@WPeter7:
1) Well, you need to make sure that you're getting an unbranded (open market) ROM, and you need to make sure that your ROM matches your hardware. You also need to back up pictures/movies/music/whatever if you have any on the phone that aren't already on the PC.
2) Yes, official ROMs will continue to receive updates.
3) Leaving it branded lets you access carrier-specific features, like TMO's MyAccount app. It also is simply les hassle, and you don't have to lose all your data (which will hppen if you flash a ROM). Unbranding the phone means you remove all carrier customizations, and may receive updates earlier (because the carrier doesn't need to test and customize them).
4) No, not if it's an official ROM and the region is correct (i.e. if you can access apps now and you use the same primary WLID, you'll be able to access them again). However, you'll probably lose access to carrier-specific apps, as mentioned above.
5) Go look in the forum or wiki section specific to your phone. There should be a list of official ROMs. Alternatively, check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1254384
I have an HTC HD7S and I was wondering how or if it was possible to revert it back to nodo.
If you have a NoDo backup saved on your computer from when you updated to Mango, jsut restore that. Otherwise, you'll need to find a stock ROM for your model of phone and flash that. I know there are a lot of stock ROMs for the HD7, hopefully the same is also true of the HD7S (they aren't interchangable though!!).
Out of curiosity, what's the goal here? There might be an easier way to do this.
goal
My goal here is to have the ability to flash the Deepshining rom and one of the steps in doing so is reverting to nodo. The whole reason im doing this though is because i originally wanted to put homebrew apps on my HD7S and when Chevron came out unsuccessful the alternative was flashing the Deepshining rom but it says I need to revert to nodo and even if I get that done I don't know if the HD7S can handle the rom because I havent seen any videos or threads detailing that it worked on one and didnt brick the phone.
You only need to downgrade the bootloader, not the full ROM. That will allow you to install HSPL, the unlocked bootloader for HTC devices. This in turn allows custom ROMs.
I'm sure there are custom ROMs for the HD7S, but they are definitely not interchangable with the custom ROMs for the HD7. You have to use the ROM specific to your hardware.
The NoDo ROM for the AT&T HD7S, if you still want it, is on the wiki (link at the top of the page, then go to the HD7, then Stock Roms).