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Installing Debian on the G1

This was already mentioned by alansj here, but I though it was important enough to have it's own thread
Saurik has created a Debian image you can install onto your sd card. Once installed, you have the full power of debian on your phone. No more puny little busybox
Instructions and such are here.
Thanks Saurik!

I was actually looking into this earlier... let me know how it runs

cant download a few things
can not open ext2.ko......when i type insmod $kit/ext2.ko ...i get "insmod: can't open ' /sdcard/kit/ext2.ko'...some one please help me out

What graphical interface does this install, or is there one?

cbrunner said:
What graphical interface does this install, or is there one?
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That was my question when I heard about this... I just went for it though because when I read through the instructions, I realized that everything is stored in the MicroSD card and in RAM (which is reset when the phone is rebooted)
It turns out that there is no GUI - just a good old text-based Debian install! I'm sure that someone will get one working... or maybe just port the entire BSD Subsystem along with apt so we can just forget the Market...

amgupt01 said:
That was my question when I heard about this... I just went for it though because when I read through the instructions, I realized that everything is stored in the MicroSD card and in RAM (which is reset when the phone is rebooted)
It turns out that there is no GUI - just a good old text-based Debian install! I'm sure that someone will get one working... or maybe just port the entire BSD Subsystem along with apt so we can just forget the Market...
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This awesome article has answered tons of my questions and also seems to imply otherwise:
"This does not replace Android. This also gives you access to the full plethora of programs available in Debian and let's you continue using your phone as it was intended to be: as an Android device with all the capabilities thereof."​
In addition, this IRC channel is where the author of that article idles.

cbrunner said:
This awesome article has answered tons of my questions and also seems to imply otherwise:
"This does not replace Android. This also gives you access to the full plethora of programs available in Debian and let's you continue using your phone as it was intended to be: as an Android device with all the capabilities thereof."​
In addition, this IRC channel is where the author of that article idles.
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Right. No gui, but you have a full working linux distro on your phone. You can apt-get just about any of the normal stuff.. You could probably even get a x-windows installation to working, although you would have to connect to it remotely - it would probably be "difficult" to get it to display a gui on the phone itself (although that would be sweet).
I've installed Saurik's image on my phone, it works great. Although if you do the "unionfs.sh" step, the wifi settings don't quite work right anymore. It won't let you enable or disable wifi.
But I was able to get an ssh server (with real user and password management) and even a samba server running on my phone quite easily with this . I've also got gcc installed, and will start playing around with developing directly on the phone (instead of having to cross compile).

Sorry for not being hip to the game, but what the heck is Debian?

donutman said:
Sorry for not being hip to the game, but what the heck is Debian?
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Arguably the most influential distribution of Linux ever. Its package management system, apt, is awesome, and it is what Ubuntu and tons of other distros were started from.
Why would you not use Google before asking here?

can anyone help with my above mentioned problem
i want this baby to run

Is your phone connected to your computer? You lose access to the storage card when it is, I think (you can't cd to it when it's plugged in) and unplugging my phone allowed me to install the module.
/a

Installing Debian errors?
Here is what I get:
insmod $kit/ext2.ko
insmod: init_module '/sdcard/kit/ext2.ko' failed (Operation not permitted)

i've been through this, i'm not gonna explain what happens and why, but imo, the only way to get a real root is the following:
-Install telnet client to your device (from android market).
-Reboot your phone to be sure no telnet-daemons/shells are running.
-When you are on the desktop, just type "enter", "telnetd", "enter". (If you do it from the terminal app it will run under the uid of the terminal app which is not root).
-Then run the telnet client app, and connect to local host. (Or skip this step + the first one if you wanna connect from another pc)
I know it's weird, but when you run something from the terminal app it runs under the terminal app's uid, even if you run a new shell, you still are eg. "app_33", not root. and btw you will have to set the environment variables all from the same shell, that means you can't have a script cause it will run under another shell, with another uid. I'm so confused... maybe I'm wrong but android is not the most friendly environment.

aggtrfrad said:
i've been through this, i'm not gonna explain what happens and why, but imo, the only way to get a real root is the following:
-Install telnet client to your device (from android market).
-Reboot your phone to be sure no telnet-daemons/shells are running.
-When you are on the desktop, just type "enter", "telnetd", "enter". (If you do it from the terminal app it will run under the uid of the terminal app which is not root).
-Then run the telnet client app, and connect to local host. (Or skip this step + the first one if you wanna connect from another pc)
I know it's weird, but when you run something from the terminal app it runs under the terminal app's uid, even if you run a new shell, you still are eg. "app_33", not root. and btw you will have to set the environment variables all from the same shell, that means you can't have a script cause it will run under another shell, with another uid. I'm so confused... maybe I'm wrong but android is not the most friendly environment.
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Haha I feel you. Now the thing is when I am at the home screen on my G1 i push "Enter" on the keyboard and then type "telnetd" and then push enter again it doesnt do anything. When I open up telnet client on my PC it wont connect with wifi on.
So I then go to Telnet client on myG1 and go to connect to "localhost:23" and it says "Error while connecting to server: localhost/127.0.0.1:23 - Connection refused" the thing is that my local host for my wifi is not 127.0.0.1:23
And when I "netstat" from inside Terminal Emulator there is no address with port "23"

ballaholyk84 said:
Haha I feel you. Now the thing is when I am at the home screen on my G1 i push "Enter" on the keyboard and then type "telnetd" and then push enter again it doesnt do anything. When I open up telnet client on my PC it wont connect with wifi on.
So I then go to Telnet client on myG1 and go to connect to "localhost:23" and it says "Error while connecting to server: localhost/127.0.0.1:23 - Connection refused" the thing is that my local host for my wifi is not 127.0.0.1:23
And when I "netstat" from inside Terminal Emulator there is no address with port "23"
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Are you already running RC30?

SplasPood said:
Are you already running RC30?
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Yes, I am running the Modified RC30 posted by JesusFreke

cbrunner said:
Why would you not use Google before asking here?
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Because I wanted you to tell me baby. That is what a wife is suppose to do.

JesusFreke said:
Right. No gui, but you have a full working linux distro on your phone. You can apt-get just about any of the normal stuff.. You could probably even get a x-windows installation to working, although you would have to connect to it remotely - it would probably be "difficult" to get it to display a gui on the phone itself (although that would be sweet).
I've installed Saurik's image on my phone, it works great. Although if you do the "unionfs.sh" step, the wifi settings don't quite work right anymore. It won't let you enable or disable wifi.
But I was able to get an ssh server (with real user and password management) and even a samba server running on my phone quite easily with this . I've also got gcc installed, and will start playing around with developing directly on the phone (instead of having to cross compile).
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What command did you use to get the SSH to install? Every time I do the one in the tut by saurik it errors and wont install all the way. I get an error after x11-common and it wont finish.

ballaholyk84 said:
So I then go to Telnet client on myG1 and go to connect to "localhost:23" and it says "Error while connecting to server: localhost/127.0.0.1:23 - Connection refused" the thing is that my local host for my wifi is not 127.0.0.1:23
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localhost usually refers to the loopback interface which on most devices will be 127.0.0.1.

I'm getting the same thing here... I think there's something wrong with apt-get having to write to /tmp which does not exist (and is mounted read-only).

Replacement for craptacular adb shell

Hey everybody. I'm on windows and adb's shell just keeps on pissing me off. Mainly, how pressing tab actually inserts a tab rather than tab completion . I'd really like to do something about this.
Here's a list of the things i've tried to get rid of this super-annoying behaviour.
-rolled a cross-compiler toolchain (glibc-based) for my phone (HTC Magic) and cross-compiled bash (in a vm). I actually made this work even with dynamic linking, and can start bash from within an instance of "adb shell". Unfortunatly, this doesn't change the tab behaviour, which appears to be baked into adb rather than a problem with the default shell.
-I thought i'd try something fancy by doing...
adb shell mkfifo /fifo
adb shell "bash > /fifo < fifo 2> /fifo"
adb forward tcp:9001 dev:/fifo
and starting putty in raw mode, connecting to localhost:9001. Unfortunatly, all is what happens is i get an echo of what i type and if i press enter a few times putty spits out ": command not found". I can't see why this shouldn't work but I suspect i'm Doing It Wrong.
-Searching the forum revealed puttycyg, which is actually really handy but unfortunatly suffers from the same tab completion problem as using adb shell in cmd.exe
How do you guys do it? Am I onto something with the adb forward thing? If so, how do I make that work?

I have also compiled bash but I have tab completion though adb. I do however use Linux as my desktop OS and am connecting through Konsole. So you could just try to install KDE for Windows. I know that I've looked for good terminal applications for windows but found none. They're all **** compared to what's available on nix.
This is my simple bashrc:
Code:
# If interactive do nothing.
[ -z "$PS1" ] && return
export HOME="/sdcard/"
PS1='[email protected]\h:\w\$ '
Also it's full of aliases for busybox. By replacing built in ls and similar you even get nice colors But still no line editing for some reason. I figure I might just need a proper libreadline or similar for that.

If anybody's interested in how I got this working, i cross-compiled socat for the droid. Required configuring with --disable-termios and manually editing config.h to set the #define for CRDLY_SHIFT and a couple other *_SHIFT macros to some values i found in Config/linux-2.6.24.h (or something similar, posting from memory here)
Once socat is on the phone, I made it pipe data from a bash shell to a unix socket it is listening on:
socat unix-listen:/dev/adbsock,fork exec:"/bin/bash -li",pty,stderr,setsid,sigint
(command shamelessly copied from http://superuser.com/questions/123790/socat-and-rich-terminals-with-ctrlc-ctrlz-ctrld-propagation ).
Then, on the pc i run adb forward tcp:9001 localfilesystem:/tmp/adbsock
And if i connect putty to localhost:9001 in raw mode (disabling line editing and local echo) I get a fairly complete bash shell that you can not only use tab completion on but even vi works
Again, posting from memory here so if anyone wants to try this and is running into problems i can dig it up from my ~/.bash_history.

Any chance you can post your socat port?
The tab completion thing is driving me insane! I don't understand why the ADB shell in *nix is proper, but the windows version sucks so much hairy donkey balls.
I've been using Ansicon so I at least get color in my shell, but ADB still mangles tab, and I don't even want to talk about what it does to Nano. Ugh!

Oh wow, this takes me back. I don't even have my android phone anymore (cancelled the contract due to terribly crap network service, and (unfortunately) the iPhone was the best phone in its price range from my new carrier).
So I don't have any files to give to you...
But, from what I can remember, to make it work, I built a cross binutils and gcc loosely following the instructions from the LFS book, compiled glibc + a few other libs socat wanted with it, and then socat itself, and then bash. I then copied the cross libc.so.6, ld-linux.so.2 (or whatever it's called on ARM) and all the libs socat wanted to /lib on the phone, and the socat and bash binaries to /bin. It's convenient that android keeps its important stuff in /system because it means you can avoid screwing around with your toolchain to make it look for a dynamic linker in some location other than /lib.
From memory socat was the only thing I had problems compiling, and thankfully I've already posted roughly what i had to do to it to make it build (because there's no way I remember lol)
Sorry I can't be more helpful!

how can you choose another keyboard

i can't even choose wii controller in tnt? i just got tnt lite 2.0 going and i just realized i can't even use wiimote because tnt won't let you change keyboards. this sucks bad, that would be great if someone figured out a way to bypass this little security measure they have to keep you from using other keyboards.

Yea, i paid $20 for a bluetooth keyboard i can't use because of that...
I am a developer though I already have the android source on my computers so perhaps i will have some time to look tomorrow at how exactly they do it in the code.
Usually that stuff is restricted but perhaps there is a way around as root. I know there is a command you can run to force apps to install to the SDcard on my droid under froyo, perhaps the same command can change this setting.
Has anybody tried loading up the stock froyo settings app?
--Robert

FYI: it's in android-source/packages/apps/Settings/src/com/android/settings/LanguageSettings.java
Code:
Settings.Secure.putString(getContentResolver(),
Settings.Secure.ENABLED_INPUT_METHODS, builder.toString());
Settings.Secure.putString(getContentResolver(),
Settings.Secure.DISABLED_SYSTEM_INPUT_METHODS, disabledSysImes.toString());
Settings.Secure.putString(getContentResolver(),
Settings.Secure.DEFAULT_INPUT_METHOD,
mLastInputMethodId != null ? mLastInputMethodId : "");
Read from
Code:
mLastInputMethodId = Settings.Secure.getString(getContentResolver(),
Settings.Secure.DEFAULT_INPUT_METHOD);
String enabledStr = Settings.Secure.getString(getContentResolver(),
Settings.Secure.ENABLED_INPUT_METHODS);
final TextUtils.SimpleStringSplitter splitter = mStringColonSplitter;
splitter.setString(enabledStr);
the Settings.secure permission is restricted from normal apps- but maybe we can gain that permission if we put the app in the /System/ folder?

This would be a major accomplishment if you figure this out. For the life of me I don't know why they would have done this...makes no sense.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

I did find a way into the accounts and settings (sync settings) - but I don't have checkboxes to enable syncing on contacts and calendars for some reason....
Perhaps i did the tntlite2.0 upgrade wrong - i did NOT do a factory reset because I didn't want to reinstall everything
I'll try to remember to post the sync settings launcher app tonight after i get home from work- all it does is fire the necessary intention to get into the app (com.android.providers.subscribedfeeds/com.android.settings.ManageAccountsSettings)
Hopefully they screwed up the settings app, which i can probably fix by making a new one, but if they hosed the settingsProvider that is supposed to store this stuff we might be screwed :-(
I just figured out how to write a video streaming app (from android) for my work, so this should be easy by comparison
On a dissapointed note- my sound is still F-ed up after the 11/22 update (randomly stops working, plays static and floods the logs w/ errors) anybody else have this problem?

Thanks for working on this, this is one of my biggest complaints with tnt.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

If anybody could find a way to get around this:
PackageManager W Not granting permission android.permission.WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS to package com.DroidMunkey.gTabletHacks (protectionLevel=3 flags=0xbe44)
I would have this finished.
Sticking it in /system/app doesn't work so i must be missing something - it's rejected in: android-source/frameworks/base/services/java/com/android/server/PackageManagerService.java if anybody else wants to take a look

I figured it out, but they screwed something else up in the system and must have disabled it on purpose...
if i select a different keyboard the input box expands to take up the entire screen when i click on it!
So if you have an alt keyboard selected and you hit the search key, you can't see the history below, or the icons next to the box to do the voice search/location selection!!!
see attached image
Very annoying.. wasted an entire day to figure this out. I suppose it wasn't a total waste though I learned alot about the android core
Are there any other settings missing that people need? I might put together an app that will let you do this despite the annoying bug if people are still interested.
I already wrote an app like HomeCatcher, but it shows me the "recent apps" list, since you can't long-press the damn home-key anymore. Anybody interested in something like that?
BTW- since nobody spells out in plain english how to get the WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS permission, here it is for those of you hitting this page via Googling my error
1) You need to request the permission in your app manifest
2) the app has to be in /system/app/
3) it has to be owned by root w/ the correct permissions (nobody tells you this part!)
4) when you reboot, the app will be automatically installed, and you will get the additional permissions (if it's already installed, you have to uninstall it before you reboot!)
5) you will NOT be able to uninstall the app after you do this (just delete it, but make SURE you manually 'clear cache' for the app in settings->applications->manage->yourapp before you delete it or all your extra settings data will be orphaned in memory!!)
su
mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
cat /sdcard/YourApp.apk > /system/app/YourApp.apk
chown 0.0 /system/app/YourApp.apk
chmod 0644 /system/app/YourApp.apk
mount -o remount,ro -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
reboot
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KinkyMunkey said:
I figured it out, but they screwed something else up in the system and must have disabled it on purpose...
if i select a different keyboard the input box expands to take up the entire screen when i click on it!
So if you have an alt keyboard selected and you hit the search key, you can't see the history below, or the icons next to the box to do the voice search/location selection!!!
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Thanks! Mind if I ask you which alternate keyboard you are using? On my another device I also get this exact same huge textbox if I some alternate keyboard (e.g. the Better Keyboard), but not all (e.g. the Thumb Keyboard).
Also: which ROM are you using? Does it matter (with respect to your 5-steps procedure)?
Are there any other settings missing that people need? I might put together an app that will let you do this despite the annoying bug if people are still interested.
I already wrote an app like HomeCatcher, but it shows me the "recent apps" list, since you can't long-press the damn home-key anymore. Anybody interested in something like that?
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Absolutely! (I know that it's available via roebeet's TnT Lite 2.0.2 supplement, but I'd like to stick to 2.0.0's contact & calendar...)
Thanks!

Save time just install zpad . Cleaner look runs faster and can use other keyboard inputs.. played super Mario bros 3 with wiimote this morning. I just need a stand now

I tried the blueInput and full keyboard, both did it, they do not do it on my droid which is why i am convinced something is wrong with the tablet
I have been thinking about it, I wonder if there is a build setting (related to the USB keyboard support) that is telling android to do this. I can't imagine why it would happen unless it's a "feature" for phones w/ small screens or no touchscreen.
It happens in every input box, so it's GOTTA be an android setting, going to dig around and see if i can figure out what causes it
btw here is the code i used, combined w/ the steps to gain the SETTING_SECURE priv above, in case anybody is pulling their hair out to do it.
Code:
InputMethodManager imm = (InputMethodManager) getSystemService(Context.INPUT_METHOD_SERVICE);
List<InputMethodInfo> mInputMethodProperties = imm.getInputMethodList();
StringBuilder builder = new StringBuilder(256);
int N = (mInputMethodProperties == null ? 0 : mInputMethodProperties.size());
for (int i = 0; i < N; ++i) {
InputMethodInfo property = mInputMethodProperties.get(i);
String prefKey = property.getId();
CharSequence label = property.loadLabel(getPackageManager());
Log.i(LOGTAG, "found " + label);
if (builder.length() > 0) builder.append(':');
builder.append(prefKey);
}
String mLastInputMethodId = Settings.Secure.getString(getContentResolver(), Settings.Secure.DEFAULT_INPUT_METHOD);
String enabledStr = Settings.Secure.getString(getContentResolver(),
Settings.Secure.ENABLED_INPUT_METHODS);
Log.i(LOGTAG, "last: " + mLastInputMethodId + " enabled " + enabledStr + " we would like: " + builder.toString());
try {
Settings.Secure.putString(getContentResolver(), Settings.Secure.ENABLED_INPUT_METHODS, builder.toString());
Toast.makeText(getApplicationContext(), "SUCCESS!! keyboard enabled!", Toast.LENGTH_LONG).show();
} catch (Exception e) {
Toast.makeText(getApplicationContext(), "Failed to set keyboard: " + e.getMessage(), Toast.LENGTH_LONG).show();
}

KinkyMunkey said:
I tried the blueInput and full keyboard, both did it, they do not do it on my droid which is why i am convinced something is wrong with the tablet
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Thanks! Could you try the thumb keyboard
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=830772
and see if you get the same result?

yes, same problem with thumb keyboard
I did get "hidd --search" to find my bluetooth keyboard! I can use it without doing anything special now, works just like a usb keyboard would

KinkyMunkey said:
yes, same problem with thumb keyboard
I did get "hidd --search" to find my bluetooth keyboard! I can use it without doing anything special now, works just like a usb keyboard would
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http://code.google.com/p/androidobex/downloads/detail?name=hidd
get that, stick it in /system/bin, go into a terminal (adb shell) do su, then type 'hidd --search'
that will automatically search for bluetooth HIDD devices and connect to any it finds
Then, the bluetooth keyboard will work w/out having to switch input methods
This may reset your wifi connection and force a reconnect when it does it's bluetooth scan, not sure why it does that, if you use the --connect option and specify the bluetooth ID instead of searching it won't do that
http://linux.die.net/man/1/hidd
Horray for linux based phones!

KinkyMunkey said:
http://code.google.com/p/androidobex/downloads/detail?name=hidd
get that, stick it in /system/bin, go into a terminal (adb shell) do su, then type 'hidd --search'
that will automatically search for bluetooth HIDD devices and connect to any it finds
Then, the bluetooth keyboard will work w/out having to switch input methods
This may reset your wifi connection and force a reconnect when it does it's bluetooth scan, not sure why it does that, if you use the --connect option and specify the bluetooth ID instead of searching it won't do that
http://linux.die.net/man/1/hidd
Horray for linux based phones!
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awesome so you got it to work? i was never able to get adb to proplerly work though. i may work on that later.

if you are on linux- you need a rule for it in /etc/udev/rules/ so ADB has permission to access the device (otherwise you have to run adb as sudo)
create an android file if you don't have it (i use the file name '99-android.rules' so it runs last)
Code:
SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="0955", ATTRS{idProduct}=="7100", MODE="0666"
(FYI, you use the 'lsusb' command to get these numbers if you have a new device- Bus 001 Device 008: ID 0955:7100 NVidia Corp.)

didn't know if anyone had seen this thread, they say this method works but seems like it may be a hassle to switch back and forth between keyboards http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=856476

[Ubuntu Image] 1st really working simple to install Ubuntu on your phone

This is easier than making a cup of coffee.
Pictures below as attachment couldnt figure how to put the pic here edit figured it out now im just lazy.
you dont have to do it the hard way
Everyone (edit: i thought so at the time)will want this "Fully" (note below) funtioning Ubuntu system
or you can make your own here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913622
I will be maintaning and updating as time permits
Phone has to be rooted: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Supersonic/Guides_&_Tutorials
NEW IMAGE 3.5 gigibyte
Lucid base image (only added: lxde and tightvncserver): Zip http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GLMYVCMN User: "dad" Passwd:ffffffff
Remove app2sd and settings- applications- manage applications- sdcard "move all apps to phone" or it will not work!
I suggest you install gnome-panel
I use it and i find no speed differance!
trying to get :upstart services" to work im looking into compiling a kernel with "CONFIG_TMPFS enabled, to initiate a workaround, because "upstart" services wont work in a chroot.
Stock Maverick : http://www.megaupload.com/?d=56AT71WD
Karmic Sucks programs stop opening after some short time, so i gave up.
Tested with: CM7 http://mirror.teamdouche.net/get/supersonic/update-cm-7.0.0-RC1-Supersonic-signed.zip
CM6: http://mirror.teamdouche.net/get/supersonic/update-cm-6.1.2-Supersonic-signed.zip
myn-WarmTwoPointTwo-11-05-2010-RLS-3
Unzip
Copy the "ubuntu" folder to your sd card
Go to market download "Terminal" and android VNC Viewer
Open terminal and type: (without the quotes), "su" then "cd /sdcard/ubuntu"
then "sh ./ubuntu.sh"
then "bootubuntu"
then "vncserver :0 -geometry 1024x800"
Thats it, go to android VNC Viewer and use dad for nickname, "ffffffff" for the password, "localhost", for address, 5900 for the port, Use 24bit veiwing settings, then go.
to shutdown you will have to power off phone and power back on.
Enter in your :"Initial Command",in the settings of Android Terminal:
su
cd /sdcard/ubuntu
sh ./ubuntu.sh
bootubuntu
So everytime you want to start ubuntu just open terminal
to start VNC SERVER automaticly you will have to add to the bottom of your /home/.bashrc file this:
cd /
rm -r -f /tmp
mkdir /tmp
vncserver :0 -geometry 1024x800
Thats it, your off ENJOY
Notes: Its as fully funtioning for myself, cant speak for everyone
This is in Beta stages I am an old Visual Basic dabbler as a hobby, and am not very fluent in the lenux operating system. However this "ubuntu on mobile device" has rekindled a lost desire to program.
I will update changes as i get the time
If anyone would like to contribute their lenux expertese to iron out the bugs, i and so many others would appreciate it
Issues to work on:
:no sound
NOTE: A big kernel level problem is the lack of sound. Most of the kernels we use as a base for our ports are designed for Google Android. Android doesn't use the standard Linux sound System ALSA. An ALSA wrapper for the EVO DSP kernel system must be written.
:Setting up users and groups (used kusers but seemed to slow system a bit, needs kde-common) But is very tolorable, I actually use dolphin. (cant get nautilus to create folders or files (destination read only? u got me)).
:hacked /root/.bashrc for easy login help (when using terminal runs .bashrc. dont know anotherway to start hamachi on login and also vncserver tries to restart)
:keyboard mapping (mapping arrow keys to the abc keyboard it has arrow keys, esc,etc...)
: No way to exit or turn off ubuntu. You have to turn off phone, to turn off ubuntu.
nce in a while the programs refuse to open, it has somthing to do with ?. you have to restart ubuntu again.
I suppose a fluent ubuntu/lenux person could help change usernames and such, using the terminal,set proper permissions and such
Im using CyanogenMod Rom its the only one that works with Hamachi
your rom will most likely work, however networking wont!
Tips:
ownload VNC for your computer and modify your ubuntu desktop on your computer screen (that way i dont need my glasses) (use "ifconfig" to find ip address)
:You can even use VNC to view the build while in qemu emulation, after installing lxde and tightvncserver in the emulation. (watch out for seg faults)
:In terminal, preferances-initial command, enter the "cd /sdcard/ubuntu ...etc ," that way its a one click to login .
:Get "abc keyboard" from market it has the esc, arrow keys etc... ( extra keys only good outside chroot, the "terminal", on your android desktop)
:If your not familiar with ubuntu, you use synaptic package manager to install programs
:When u share over himachi or start smbd, programs will stop opening.
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Trust me everything i want it use it for seems to be pretty zippy, but just give a little xtra time for programs to load the first time. (Firefox may take 90 sec. to load the first time. After that its a snap)

I Would like to check into this
The no sound issue is getting to me, I may wait for that as that is an essential to my all in one device.
THANKS FOR THE HARD WORK. I LOVE UBUNTU

you really have to try it and tell everyone about it cant believe its not one of the hottest topics

I Would like to check into this
any way to delete this post....didn't mean to submit, came back to send like i didn't send it but ending up sending twice
apologies

Sounds pretty cool, I will defiantly have to give this a try. Question though, is this installing over top of the rom I am currently using. Example I am using the MIUI 1.22, if I install this is this like dual booting or will it just uninstall every time I reboot the phone??

Is it still uploading? I really want to try this!

corybucher said:
Sounds pretty cool, I will defiantly have to give this a try. Question though, is this installing over top of the rom I am currently using. Example I am using the MIUI 1.22, if I install this is this like dual booting or will it just uninstall every time I reboot the phone??
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This will sit on your sdcard and ride side by side with your android system (you can use your phone at the same time)
IT DOES NOT EFFECT YOUR PHONE IN ANY WAY
wasnt shouting just wanted everyone to see

ioos said:
Is it still uploading? I really want to try this!
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Download away!

This is awesome! I can't wait to get home and give it a try.
This is gonna be a great weekend. Between this and the flashable ROMs that are starting to roll out for my nook color, I might be sprouting antennae by Monday.

So wep cracking soon...? That's about the only thing I want/need Linux for.
Sent from the void...

wuclan48 said:
So wep cracking soon...? That's about the only thing I want/need Linux for.
Sent from the void...
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How would one go about this "wep cracking thing"
please explain further

Almost* all WEP and some** WPA wireless passwords can be cracked. IMHO its easiest to do this on a Linux machine (please take note I love all OSs equally!)
*I forget how accurate this is but some WEP keys(like crazy long ones) can cause problems l in cracking, thus being protected (though not by design)
**most wpa specifications are not crackable yet and those that are often have a very stringent set of requirements (off the top of my head: most require someone to be legitimately connected to the access point and very simple passwords with low encryption.
On topic, though, this is sweet. Hope I can get something like this on my galaxy tab too!
EDIT: If you really need to know this (please only for testing... not to mooch people's internet) Google "wep cracking on backtrack"
The short simple answer is you sniff packets that the wireless access points send out and manipulate them to decrypt the key.
EDIT 2: I just realized you are also the guy who made this. Let me answer a few questions.
1) For audio you probably need to find a way to register the hardware with a Linux Audio Mixer. I'm guessing Ubuntu uses ALSA? I'd have to look that up
2) For users, kusers is part of the KDE desktop system. Ubuntu uses GNOME. People generally only use one or the other (unless they're trying to show off). That's probably why it either a) won't work or b) not work well and take up lots of extra space
3) It's Linux, not Lenux (but that's fine I can sense English isn't your first language... it's not mine either, but that's fine ^^)

the download has a "zipx" extension.
I did a little googling and it looks like that is winzips new default compression method, and the only way to open the archive is with winzip, bitzipper, pkzip, or a couple of others. none of the compression utilities I typically use (7zip on Windows, unarchiver on mac) seem to support it.
Edit: sorry if I sound unappreciative, I just think its funny to use a proprietary closed format for distribution of software that is all about open software and formats. I'm currently trying to find something that will open this on the mac without being a scummy trial, or ill just do it on a pc.

Sorry i just used the wizard and made a zip file with winzip 12.1

Quote"Almost* all WEP and some** WPA wireless passwords can be cracked. IMHO its easiest to do this on a Linux machine (please take note I love all OSs equally!)
*I forget how accurate this is but some WEP keys(like crazy long ones) can cause problems l in cracking, thus being protected (though not by design)"
Thanks for the info

laydros said:
the download has a "zipx" extension.
I did a little googling and it looks like that is winzips new default compression method, and the only way to open the archive is with winzip, bitzipper, pkzip, or a couple of others. none of the compression utilities I typically use (7zip on Windows, unarchiver on mac) seem to support it.
Edit: sorry if I sound unappreciative, I just think its funny to use a proprietary closed format for distribution of software that is all about open software and formats. I'm currently trying to find something that will open this on the mac without being a scummy trial, or ill just do it on a pc.
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shame on me .
Your right im a noob and really know too much about it yet i just like having ubuntu on my phone.
Ill do better next time

People talking about cracking WEP and stuff, this probably doesn't have a driver to put the wireless card to put the card in monitor mode.

laydros said:
the download has a "zipx" extension.
I did a little googling and it looks like that is winzips new default compression method, and the only way to open the archive is with winzip, bitzipper, pkzip, or a couple of others. none of the compression utilities I typically use (7zip on Windows, unarchiver on mac) seem to support it.
Edit: sorry if I sound unappreciative, I just think its funny to use a proprietary closed format for distribution of software that is all about open software and formats. I'm currently trying to find something that will open this on the mac without being a scummy trial, or ill just do it on a pc.
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Have the same problems, did you happen to find anything to open it with? I searched a little on google myself but all I find is software that needs to be purchased.

Homefix said:
Quote"Almost* all WEP and some** WPA wireless passwords can be cracked. IMHO its easiest to do this on a Linux machine (please take note I love all OSs equally!)
*I forget how accurate this is but some WEP keys(like crazy long ones) can cause problems l in cracking, thus being protected (though not by design)"
Thanks for the info
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AFAIK, WEP can be easily cracked. WPA or WPA2 though, will require bruteforcing, there is no way around it.

corybucher said:
Have the same problems, did you happen to find anything to open it with? I searched a little on google myself but all I find is software that needs to be purchased.
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I will repackage it, but it might take 3-4 hrs to upload, sorry.
ill get right on it

Attaining root on Crystalview (Wondermedia) NB4-3/5788

Believe it or not, this netbook comes already rooted, but how to access it is hidden. The original adventure is posted below if you're interested,but I'll put the tl;dr up top.
You'll need to side load the app USB Debug by tatibana. This will shortcut to the hidden developer options. Slide the developer options on. You may or may not need to reboot, I was too focused on USB Debug to notice the SuperUser Options... The default is Always Deny. Set to Always Allow, then you can replace with your choice su manager (I installed Chainfire's SuperSU).
That's it. The rest below is my original posts up to this point, including getting a Linux working prior to figuring out root. Enjoy the read.
Edit 2: You can pick up new posts from this point by going directly to post #11.
Original Post:
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Okay, this one is a bit puzzling and I haven't found any good info in searches. This is an Android netbook with Jellybean. Pointer control is a single point touch pad which makes zooming out on several apps impossible; I wish to attain root so I can install desktop Linux in parallel and use some desktop apps in place of some Android apps. I know I could use something like qemu but I'd rather install root and use arm binaries than take a performance hit using non-root methods.
This netbook comes with an installed su binary and busybox 1.19.4 but trying to invoke su results in
su: uid 10084 not allowed to su
Settings is also a bit crippled; no Developer Options section means no option to invoke USB Debugging. Anyone have any good ideas?
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addendum
There also is no physical volume or photo buttons, and no obvious way to get into fastboot mode. My guess is that the original OS image was made in root mode, then the CV dev created a default user with almost no permissions, then backed it out effectively locking it out of root forever. I have also discovered that the busybox doesn't have access to the network as this user 10084, negating half its usability. No Play Store either (using Amazon instead), though I can (and have) install to my phone and copy to this if necessary.
This has a cool little form factor and I think has so much potential for a cheap device if I could just bust this major barrier. Does anyone know any sh or setuid tricks that might fake this thing into a root mode, or at least manage to give me enough permissions to edit /system files?
system seems to be owned by user 1003 and group 120, if that helps.
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Mmmmmm, tasty foot...
So apparently this is normal behavior for the stock android su (see guys, I'm learning >P ); only the user shell (and root) can use su. This thing using a shared uid for apps might or might not have an effect, don't know yet. The normal way around it is to adb shell and su in, then overwrite with a custom su binary such as ChainsDD. I don't know if I have that option since there's no USB Debugging option, and I'm too tired to find out tonight. I will update this adventure later.

USB failed, but not anything to do with adb, didn't even get that far. The netbook failed to even register to the desktop (Linux)... lsusb didn't show anything. I don't know if it's a cable thing (tried direct A-A patch and the MiniUSB charge port- charge port predictably didn't support data and neither standard port showed any reaction) or a hardware limitation.
I also took a crack at adb over wifi but as usual it was the catch 22 of needing root to invoke adbd into tcpip to attain root.
Still open to suggestions... please?
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Developer Options?
This is driving me up a new wall. Based on what I have been reading all day, Developer Options are a core function and cannot be removed, only hidden. This thing has not been giving me much confidence in that statement, however. I have been through the settings over and over again with a fine tooth comb and the whole thing eludes me.
This is Android 4.1.1. The 4.2+ trick (7 clicks on Build Number) doesn't work, and it's not in the App settings either, nor is there any sections renamed "Advanced" or the like. It may not be an end-all but I feel it would at least be a step in the right direction. I might be able to use an exploit such as Poot or Framearoot, which are currently ineffective.
I also haven't had any luck with getting into a recovery boot mode, not sure it's possible with this keyboard (I suspect it's soft driven; inactive until the kernel and modules are loaded). This seems to be just one shut down after another. I need more ideas, pointers, whatever. Don't forget, it can also help the next sap stuck with this model...

I decided to not lose sight of my original reasoning and move forward anyway with an app that claims to install Linux without root. I installed Gnuroot Wheezy which taught me some more f'd up things about this netbook but it at least in concept is working. What more things I have learned...
One of the issues with running Linux without root is the inability to use the external SD-card, at least native, because you can't mount an external partition/file that hasn't already been set up in the mount scripts outside of userspace. Gnuroot uses a chroot off the secure asec in /data. With about 3G user space available on this netbook, you'd think that wouldn't be a problem... but it is, because of another setup issue with this netbook...
See, while the external SD card does mount to /sdcard,/mnt/sdcard, that is NOT where Android app setup calls SDcard... there is a so called internal SDcard that is really a fake vfat via fuse mount off /data mounted to /mnt/local. This means it does no good to move my plethora of other apps to the "SD Card," actually, it makes the problem worse on this device. I imagine it was done so you could swap SD cards without affecting your apps, good move for flexibility but poor for expandability.
For those who would try it, that's also a big hint for getting it working. This device does not have access to the Play market*, so you will have to move helper apps from another Android device over. Don't bother with 3rd party repositories, you will not get everything you need. The biggest issue is the WheezyX obb file. It on install ONLY from the Play store will be located in /sdcard/Android/obb/champion.gnuroot.wheezyx/main.2.champion.gnuroot.wheezyx.obb , on this netbook the file must be moved to /mnt/local/Android/obb/champion.gnuroot.wheezyx or it will not be recognized, and because of the play store issue, can't be downloaded and gnuroot will exit with error.
Anyway, so now WheezyX is actually running and I am attempting to install an Openbox/LXDE desktop... the problem I am hitting now is the space limitation... It said it needed about 330 MB space and I had 360MB available on start... I'm now about 1/4 through and the netbook has come to a dead crawl due to... yep, very little space left (about 55 MB free on /data)... WTF! I feel like I am just not meant to win at like anything...
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*Edit: Once rooted, the play store can be installed to the system partition and does work pretty good.
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Some success with Linux
Well, it took quite a bit of monkeying and persistence but I do have desktop Linux running via the above described method. I found Synaptic was useful for finding packages but as the GNURoot author warned, for the love of all that's holy, use apt-get to actually install the packages. It seems trying to install a desktop environment via Synaptic totally overthrew the system. Also try installing only a few packages at a time and clean up after each one, especially where space is a premium.
What's left now is experimenting with vnc viewers a/o X11 environments. I'm presently using PocketCloud but it doesn't seem to like this keyboard (right shift = 6, no down arrow, Ctrl is sticky- forget combo keys; at least the included soft-keyboard does work, just a productivity killer) and getting a right mouse click is almost impossible, so I want to see if I can do better.
The environment is OpenBox with lxpanel and the background is set with qiv. I am confident now that providing space wasn't such an issue I could run pretty much any basic Linux program I want. I have not tested audio and I already know just being vncserver that motion video is a bad idea; this was mostly proof of concept until I can open up some space. I may now see how far I can take this (e.g. link large trees to the SD card, such as bin directories; since it's already running fake-root, I'm not too worried about user permissions. I may also experiment with fuse).
Edit:
This does not mean I don't still want to get a true root. If nothing else, even if I can't take Linux off the internal storage, root will allow me to force Android apps on to the external SD; either solves the current space issue and thus is still desirable. I'm just not as stuck in the mud now. Ideas still very much appreciated.
Done and done.

Just a quick update to say the project isn't dead, just dormant. I have successfully turned on USB debugging thanks to a shortcut app called "USB Debug" by Tatibana. Thank you
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Framaroot, Universal Androot, and Poot have all failed.
:banghead:
Have yet to see if physical USB will now work... I don't exactly live alone.
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SUCCESS!!!!!
IDFBT! I must have not been paying enough attention before or something, or maybe it was one of the half dozen greyed out options before... not sure, but after I was again unable to connect via direct USB, I decided to double check the developer options to make sure noting was reset by the last reboot.... and there in bright white last in the top section... Superuser Options (set to Always Deny)! I set it to Ask and tested, but it promptly rebooted as soon as I tried to su, and again on that boot, so I had to set to Always Allow. Amazon doesn't have SuperSU and last I knew ChainsDD Superuser is still adrift in the doldrums, so I'll have to sideload (as usual), but, I just wanted to share. This netbook does come rooted, you just need to turn on the hidden developer options, reboot, and go back and allow SuperUser.
Will report more as I progress. Banzai!!!

Adventures in Linux land
Well, I had mentioned before how space was an issue. Thanks in part to Link2SD, I managed to curb that problem.
Problem still though was my base graphical Linux install was taking 1G of my /data space. Since I made 2G available on the Link2SD ext4 (/data/sdext2) partition, I found I had about 1.3G available after moving most apps over, I decided I'd try a manual data move. I was slow with this since I didn't know how Link2SD or the system was going to handle it. That turned out to be a good thing.
When using Link2SD, one thing that should be obvious is to never move essential apps off the internal storage. These would be things like Link2SD itself, a Terminal emulator, and your superuser manager (e.g. SuperSU); basically, things you absolutely cannot lose access to even temporarily.
Okay, so, to test the behavior, I went into the emulator..
su
cd /data/sdext2
mkdir Linux
That's all. I then did a normal power off and restart. When rebooting, an "Android is Updating..." box came up and went away in a few seconds. The launcher came up and I waited for everything to load normally. Then I started getting a rash of "App is not installed" messages... uh oh. The only reason this turned out to not be a big deal is Link2SD and SuperSU were still on internal storage, and Link2SD is designed to deal with this problem. I simply launched Link2SD, clicked the tab bar on the upper left, and selected "Relink all application files," after which it requested a reboot, and I complied.
With a semi-disaster averted, I went back into /data/sdext2 to see if the Linux directory was still there. Hallelujah it was. Next was finding the GNURoot wheezyx root. This turned out to be fairly easy:
/data/data/champion.gnuroot/app_install/roots/wheezyx . I decided for potential future expansion to move the whole roots directory. Being cautious as I try, I do a copy.
su
cd /data/data/champion.gnuroot/app_install
cp -a roots /data/sdext2/Linux/
(... go make a sammich ...)
rm -R roots
(... go make and eat dinner ...)
ln -s /data/sdext2/Linux/roots roots
This appeared to work at first, until I tried to install something (abiword). I discovered that the permissions were not copied to the lib directories (android security quirk?). This would probably not be an issue if this were a true root install but being a fake root app install, it effectively prevented the installation of libraries. This was fixed simply by doing a chown and chmod on the lib directories.
Contined from above:
cd roots/wheezyx
chown 10102.10102 lib
chmod 771 lib
chown 10102.10102 usr/lib
chmod 771 usr/lib
*note: the app id number may be different on your copy. This will be fairly obvious with a simple ls -lh .
After that, the install completed and this thing is running pretty good. I am now considering this a complete success. While technically solved, I'll keep this thread open for questions or updates (for as long as the mods don't mind).
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Screencap op
Assuming the uploads work this time, attached are some screencaps. Enjoy.