ROM related question another newbie question - myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development

Hi,
Thank you guys (and girls of course) for pushing the android experience more than just-another-smart-phone for the curious users.
I have searched a lot by moving around in this forum for last couple of days, looking for a cool ROM for my first ever (but not last, only the beginning) ROM upgrade.
I have read the wiki and have explored all the given links. But I couldn't find few simple answers. Please help me by answering my following questions-
1. Is there any list of currently available ROMs with pros and cons of each ROM? Is there any benchmark for stability, performance,supported features for all the available ROMs ?
2. What's there any matured stable 2.x.x ROM for HTC magic 32A which is not-slow and does well what it is supposed to do?
3. What's the pros and cons for older versions and newer versions? In another way of asking- why you developers still working on the 1.5 and 1.6 ROMs? Why not 2.x.x for HTC magic?
4. (lame question) Which of the ROM versions does have flash 10 (so that flash videos or files will work on webpages)?
Please ignore my lack of knowledge and enlighten me and other newbies as well.
Thank you very much once again

1. No but you may have a look at this.
2. Manup456's Eclair is what I'd go for. It isn't slow nor buggy but keep in mind that there are things that still don't work properly and probably won't until HTC or some operator releases an official 2.1 update for the Magic. You'll also need a port to install it on a 32A.
3. 1.5 and 1.6 have been officially released for the Magic while 2.xx hasn't yet. That means everything works as it should on 1.5 and 1.6. On 2.1 you get the new Android features but you lose some functionalities as well so it all depends of what you need and don't need (if you can live without camera recording and hardware acceleration you'll be fine). People also stick to some 1.5 ROMs because of SenseUI (there are a few 2.xx ROMs with SenseUI but none of them is really ready for prime time).
4. Flash 10 isn't available to us yet. There is a version of Flash Player included in the HTC Browser (meaning you need a ROM which includes the HTC framework) but it's not that great as it doesn't support the newer Actionscript 3/FP 10 Flash files. It can play Youtube videos though.
My personal advice would be to avoid 2.xx ROMs for the moment and to try a good stable 1.5 SenseUI ROM like Cursorsense or GyD... and if you then feel that 1.5 is too old you can try Amon RA's Donut or Ahmgsk's.
Hope this helps... you could have posted this in the general forum though

Related

different features on different roms??

Hey
I was just wondering what rom all you android users are on atm. I am running cyanogen 3.6.8.1(I think lol) and have used JF and Hero builds. JF is rather basic as it is just modified TMo OTA updates and the Hero builds I have tried have all been slow/laggy/buggy (will check back in time. Anyway what are your current and/or fave builds and what distinguishes them from others?
Thanks,
A. Noob

Official HTC 1.5 Sense-UI Port for 32B?

Is there a nice Dev that has ported this over for us 32B handset users?
I am new to the whole rom flashing thing, and have been hesitant to root and flash my phone with the existing sense roms because I don't want to lose functionality and/or make my phone any more lagtastic than it already is.
The official HTC 1.5 Sense rom seems to be right up my alley.. And with a Dev porting it (perhaps with some of their slick optimization settings) that should make for one awesome rom to flash.
If anyone has some info, that would be awesome.
Thanks!
I second this. Show some love to your 32B counterparts.
this was asked yesterday
and it's been said countless times but the Dream forum is the place to go for 32B ROMs. You'll find that 32B gets more love than 32A does, actually
I don't want to lose functionality and/or make my phone any more lagtastic than it already is.
The official HTC 1.5 Sense rom seems to be right up my alley..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's wrong, unfortunately. SenseUI needs more RAM than your phone has and will always make 32B devices lag. The G1 Devs have managed to get it to a usable state using Swap and tweaks but from what I know it's still that... laggy.

Any Sense roms for Mytouch 1.2?

I've got the original Mytouch thats fully rooted so the process of creating a goldcard and the one click method are nothing new to me. My nephew just got a v1.2 MT3G and I was going to root it for him. I dont really follow the development of this phone much and wondered what, if any Sense or 2.1 roms are available for this version?
Thanks
Sense ROMs - None
2.1 ROMs - You have st0kes port - some stuff broken.
Other than that you are SOL because the kernel source isnt out there right now.
edru said:
Sense ROMs - None
2.1 ROMs - You have st0kes port - some stuff broken.
Other than that you are SOL because the kernel source isnt out there right now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That sucks. I wonder why HTC/T-Mobile released this phone and made it so hard to root whereas the N1 was released to root with ease.
Even downgrading the old MT3G from 1.6 to 1.5 firmware to gain root access is easier than the new ones with a TON more roms to choose from.
lt1pnyklr said:
That sucks. I wonder why HTC/T-Mobile released this phone and made it so hard to root whereas the N1 was released to root with ease.
Even downgrading the old MT3G from 1.6 to 1.5 firmware to gain root access is easier than the new ones with a TON more roms to choose from.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What are you talking about? How is it hard to root, it's easy to root... I don't find it that much harder to root than the normal mt3g. Thing is, there are less devs for the magic now so there aren't as many roms / simple one click rooting for the new stuff
lt1pnyklr said:
That sucks. I wonder why HTC/T-Mobile released this phone and made it so hard to root whereas the N1 was released to root with ease.
Even downgrading the old MT3G from 1.6 to 1.5 firmware to gain root access is easier than the new ones with a TON more roms to choose from.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Our difference is, the original mytouches touch screens was generic.. where as our fender/ 1.2 screens are brand new with new drivers. This 32a board is completly different from every other hardware revision out so quite a bit needed to be changed and also readied for 2.1 when its released..
But as of right now, myself and 2 others have tried EVERY sense rom.. and the HERO kernels are so different that even shoving the mytouch 1.2 kernel in there causes a freeze.

[Q] cyberjam 3g 2.1-how to make this app2sd compatible

hi,
as the title suggests, i would like to make a custom rom for this device... either modify the current 2.1 rom and make it app2sd compatible or make a 2.2 or higher rom that natively supports it...
i just need some info... firstly, which would be the easier thing to do?
if modifying the stock rom, what would i need to do 2 make it app2sd compatible?
if making a custom rom, how would i go about doing that?
i would imagine its possibly like getting a windows os and adding drivers for a specific machine before instalation... except in this case i think its a custom build.prop right? any help is much aprieciated...
oh and a final thought, if i make a mirror of the stock rom which bits can ibuse from it 2 aid me in the making of a new rom? id ideally like a 2.3.7 cyanogenmod7 rom just coz my current device (hd2) has a cyanogenmod7 rom and it works flawlessly... i do have a few hd2 android builds, can i disect these and modify them from what i have on the cyberjam?
basically i have a lot of apps and would like 2 have hardly any limitation on how many i can have as opposed to having 4-5 n gettin the memory getting full warning...
again, thanks in advance...
better still, add a forum for this device and have a big long list of compatible roms lol...
and finally, (another p.s)
there is a device which is very simmilar called a bsense 383.
now this does have a 2.2 rom available, only difference i can see is the cpu in the bsense is dual core aparently... the other hardware appears to be the same (haven't seen a list of every part inside both but the few parts i have seen are the same minus the aforementioned cpu)
so i look forward to your reply and hope that this is possible and plausable...
thanks, luke
31 views and noone can help me? come on xda community... surely someone can help me out...
Just read up on dsixda kitchen and once you get it installed in the right environment you can run pretty much any Rom through it and add that feature along with many other things. As long as you don't redistribute someone else's work, its ok.

[Q] Which rom is the best for my rooted phone?

Hi, I have recently rooted my Desire S, with revolutionary, clockwork etc, and I currently ported this rom HTC_DESIRE_S_2.3.5-2.10.401.4.zip
Everything is working just fine, but theoretically, when I decide to port a new rom, how would I know which will work, and which won't?
Actually, I'm waiting until ICS is released for desire s, so I can find it and install it...
Are there any methods to identify which rom would be compatible?
Thank you!
kostistheo said:
Hi, I have recently rooted my Desire S, with revolutionary, clockwork etc, and I currently ported this rom HTC_DESIRE_S_2.3.5-2.10.401.4.zip
Everything is working just fine, but theoretically, when I decide to port a new rom, how would I know which will work, and which won't?
Actually, I'm waiting until ICS is released for desire s, so I can find it and install it...
Are there any methods to identify which rom would be compatible?
Thank you!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hey mate
your're actually talking about two different things: porting a ROM and flashing a ROM.
Porting means, you take a ROM from another device and modify it so it works on your device too.
flashing means, you take a ROM which is already optimized for your device
and install it, so you wipe the stock firmware and get a custom rom.
which of the two things is what you want to do? i think its just the flashing.
so you can take any ROM from the "development section", and if you follow the guides that you can find everywhere here im sure you will be succesfull and happy with it.
bytheway
there is no "best" ROM for your device. it all depends on what you need and want. there are alot sense 3.5 Roms, Endymion 3.4 is the one i would recommend. you can also try AOSP ROMs (android open source project, means no sense), cyanogenmod7 could be a good first choice. and you can also try ics right now, since there are at least 3 (?) ICS AOSP ROMs right now:
CM9, Virtuous Quattro RC3, IceColdSandwich
have fun!
Yes I meant "flashing" a rom
Thanks for all the information. That's the general idea I have as well, however I had this question because after I flashed another rom (official rom through htc sync - that could have been the problem) over my first flashed one , the phone was "bricked"....
kostistheo said:
Yes I meant "flashing" a rom
Thanks for all the information. That's the general idea I have as well, however I had this question because after I flashed another rom (official rom through htc sync - that could have been the problem) over my first flashed one , the phone was "bricked"....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i would never recommend to flash an official ROM over a custom ROM. But anyways, i think if you would have done a full wipe before flashing the official rom you wouldnt have got a "you call it brick"
a real "BRICK" is a useless phone, where there is no way to use it again.if there is still a way, its no brick.. but who cares about definitions
I recommend you to flash the ROMs only through recovery mode. AND ALWAYS DO A FULL WIPE BEFORE FLASHING A NEW ROM. very important
and dont forget to backup as always
Yes you are absolutely right. I'll have that in mind the next time I'll decide to flash a new one
Yeah the device wasn't completely useless, it hanged at boot...but I guess that was due to not following the right procedure as you previously described..
Thanks eyahl
Start flashing different roms and trying them for a day or two. First
Sens 3.0 and then sense 3.5 roms to see the difference. Only then you will know which rom is best for you.
+1 for Endymion 3.4,
+1 for Endymion
Swyped from my Desire S using XDA Premium
+1 Endymion
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
edymion, will try it
+1266592.23 for Endymion
kostistheo said:
Yes you are absolutely right. I'll have that in mind the next time I'll decide to flash a new one
Yeah the device wasn't completely useless, it hanged at boot...but I guess that was due to not following the right procedure as you previously described..
Thanks eyahl
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Each ROM type suits different personal tastes, so there isn't an 'best' ROM for everyone. Trial and Error which ones suit you!
General opinions:
Stock
Pro: Straight from HTC, *newest kernel/drivers*, least likely to have compatibility issues.
Cons: HTC is slow to release updates, and sense interface is usually resource hungry.
Sense-like
Pro: usually keep the Sense interface, but custom kernals offer speed / various other improvements.Runnymead versions are kernals ported across from HTC Sensation (which offer some of the goodies like Beats Audio etc. that were not originally developed for Saga.
Cons: Sense interface is resource hungry...
CyanogenMod based
Pro: offer lots of customisations
Cons: not the most user friendly
AOSP
Pro: Roms from the android source, usually less resource hungry, so lighter and faster.
Cons: Obviously, no sense.
ICS Alpha/Beta
Not strictly a new category, but builds from the new Android 4.0 (ICS).
Currently some things (like camera) isn't fully working yet.
Note: new Desire S may suffer from camera/video lag bug with non-stock / non-sense ROMs, this is due to HTC putting in new hardware / driver into the new DS phones and the other kernels not reflecting this change yet.
Personally, I use SenseMOD Lite V1.2 build 2 as it is one of the few AOSP like builds that don't have the camera bug. Oxygen would have been best choice for me but unfortunately camera bug makes it unusable.
Hey guys. I don't want to drive over your feet, but I think the OP is already very satisfied with all those replies. specially the post above is really trying to help, but you spend much time to type what has already been written on the first page.
I appreciate your intend to help, bit I think the OP isn't gonna read this anymore..
Btw: endy!...
Sent by my fingers to your head

Categories

Resources