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Hello All,
I wanted to see what everyone thinks is the best application manger for Android.
Also is anyone familiar with the Getjar free app store?
Thx All,
Force
What do people think of "Advance Task Killer"
It seems to me it shows all tasks, not jsut the open ones.
Regards,
Force
FYI,
Many people say talk killers are not necessary, as that is a windows phenomenon, Linux & android treating background processes differently.
Regards,
Force
I personally use Advanced Task Manager for $0.99. I have read the articles about how Android does not need task Managers because it is built in, but I know from personal experience that without it if there are running programs in the background my phone gets really sluggish especially when I get a phone call and it makes it difficult to answer etc. Take in account, this experience was mainly with the Hero (slower) but I use on my Evo now.
You know people will argue either way, because there is evidence to support both sides of the argument. so with that in mind- i honestly havent had the need for one with my evo, but it you truly are considering one- i actually have a pair to suggest.
one is OS Monitor- free on the market- great app for pinning down process that could be an issue- also supports dmsg repporting- and logcat is built in to- so if your testing something and it goes all wonky you can export the log to view on a pc and send it to the developer too.
the second is AMM- or Auto Memory Manager- free and donate versions on the market. There are pretty much a couple of sliders and you set it how you want android to handle the process. I have had great success with this app on my other device- normal free memory was around 30-35 and using this set aggressively i saw gains of 50mb at most times keeping my freememory to around 75-80mb range.
Hope this helps.
I take both sides. I have task manager installed, but use if ONLY when needed. Aka, I used it when I want to kill the browser after I'm done with it so next time I launch it I won't be seeing old pages.
I like EStrongs Task Manager.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/nextapp.systempanel.r1 is nice, it can kill processes, monitor system stats, uninstall apps and more. There is also a free version.
TREYisRAD said:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/nextapp.systempanel.r1 is nice, it can kill processes, monitor system stats, uninstall apps and more. There is also a free version.
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i installed that last night, cool app
why someone who know don't explaine exactly how android works and do we need killers and if yes which one is best...
Everyone of us using something but question is that which one is best for our needs.
quick system info pro (free)
I only use the manual task killer widget when memory gets down around 100. Spikes it right back to about 250.
Whats your guys' normal memory range? I see someone on here saying 50 was normal for them but that seems REALLY low to me.
frifox said:
I take both sides. I have task manager installed, but use if ONLY when needed. Aka, I used it when I want to kill the browser after I'm done with it so next time I launch it I won't be seeing old pages.
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Does the stock Sense browser not have an option to kill the windows by hitting menu? On CM, I do menu, windows, and X them out
i use advance task killer and set it to auto kill every hour...but ive been reading everywhere that people say not to use task killer. whats ur opinion on this?
Don't use them. Kick the habit. Get the monkey off your back. Go cold turkey. Just say no.
It's okay, in my opinion. The key is to use it safely (that means not using an auto kill). I use advanced task killer as well. I have the security set to High, and I have established an ignore list (for applications that need to remain open to provide me updates, like Gmail, Market, Clock - for alarms, Yahoo Messenger, etc). Setting the security to high ensures that processes aren't killed when you kill everything else. I put a widget on the homescreen that kills, when you select it. I kill everything whenever I put my phone down. In my experience, not using a TK gives me too much lag for my taste. I also noticed quicker battery drain without a TK. This is my personal experience and I strongly recommend doing a couple of days both WITH a TK and WITHOUT a TK. Remember, if you do continue using a TK, do so carefully. Review this article for a little more insight. Good luck
I use it and personally have noticed increase battery life. I set it to autokill every hour but i have left security at high and all the applications i need running plus widgets that need to keep updating, market, and alarm i have put on the ignore list. As long as you do this it should be helpful to you.
SiL3nTKiLL said:
i use advance task killer and set it to auto kill every hour...but ive been reading everywhere that people say not to use task killer. whats ur opinion on this?
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They are so many robot-lovers out there and they will claim Android is the best. They will tell you the OS is so advanced that you don't have to worry about the background processes. Well, don't just believe them. Try a task killer yourself and you'll find out if it's good for you.
For me, a task killer is definitely necessary.
(1) You need a task killer to kill those AT&T crappy processes. Things like AT&T hot spot, AT&T navigator will start automatically every time you start your phone. If you don't root your phone, you need to kill them manually. I've tested it, those stupid, useless processes drain your battery like crazy.
(2) To kill other auto-sync, auto-update apps. A lot of the app use background syncing or updating. If you don't configure them correctly, chances are they will run in the background and drain your battery.
I have used two different Android phones. Without task killer, I would probably have a battery for less than half of a day. With task killer, I can at least last a whole day.
PS, In case you didn't notice, I hate the way Android handles multitasking. I like the idea of letting the OS to handle background processes. But the job it is doing right now is just horrible.
This is my first android phone and i do no use a task killer. i started the first few days using one and then stopped after reading alot of things saying not to. i may try one again and use it only for things i do not want running
Does transformer need to install any task killer? My transformer runs a little bit laggy after openingtoo many apps behind.
You may get a bunch of different answers/opinions on this. The short answer is no. Android handles memory as it needs it by closing apps as needed. There have been a lot of post on task killers and how they can interfere with the way Android should run. There are also people that use them and have good results. I don't use one and have a few android devices and they all work fine regarding memory.
I use Advanced Task Killer (ATK) myself and only the widget. That one stops all the current apps. I seldom use this function as Android seems to be pretty capable of handling the memory by itself. Only in rare occasions the TF slows down or lags a little, I use it.
Probably you want to try active apps. I dont know if it's working with honey comb but it does quite well identifying what applications are running and cpu usage. Probably it will help.
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How about minfreemanager? I kind of like that, it seems to be a good compromise between ATK and letting android handle the memory.
Of course, this also depends on the user, always press back instead of homescreen to close the app.
I've not needed a task killer at all yet. Once everyother day I restart it just to be safe, but I have been attributing it to honeycomb "beta" problems and/or the fact that it's not complete yet.
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ELTinos said:
I use Advanced Task Killer (ATK) myself and only the widget. That one stops all the current apps. I seldom use this function as Android seems to be pretty capable of handling the memory by itself. Only in rare occasions the TF slows down or lags a little, I use it.
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I am also using ATF and wondering why some programs will not kill off even tho i select it to kill. Like logmein, i select it and kill it, a minute later it shows up again ??? Does AFk even work? I noticed that after killing off some apps i see it frees up more memory, but couple of minutes later the same apps will start again....
dazz87 said:
I am also using ATF and wondering why some programs will not kill off even tho i select it to kill. Like logmein, i select it and kill it, a minute later it shows up again ??? Does AFk even work? I noticed that after killing off some apps i see it frees up more memory, but couple of minutes later the same apps will start again....
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it's because since Froyo, the most a task killer can do is to restart the app / release it from memory. What it means is .. if your program runs a service/ Thread, the program will not be killed but merely restarting the app. That's y some apps that get restarted will show up again. The only way to kill is either you get a super user to do the kill from command shell 'kill -9 PID' or
go to the settings -> Applications and click on stop.
Hope this helps.
Also using task killer is not a good idea. It might drain battery if you use it regularly. if you asked me why? because when you restart the app/ kill the app, the program will load (this actually consuming CPU hence battery) again.
And if you asked again why did google keep those in memory?
it's because it's designed so that when you want to open up again it's faster..
Here is a link that might be helpful.
http://androinica.com/2010/05/googl...-imply-task-killermanager-apps-are-pointless/
I use atk, but like others I only use the widget. It's mostly a compulsive thing; I like to hit it twice and see my available memory shoot up 200 megs. I'm sure HC can handle it but I could swear it reduces lag in some instances; as if some apps or HC interfaces are scaleable to remaining available memory. Probably my imagination, but it hasn't hurt me yet.
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Advanced task killer is a very good app but i found that when i put it to kill tasks when screen off, it sometimes doesn't work??? It happened with my galaxy s and now with my xperia s
how you know it doesn't work ?
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how you know it doesn't work ?
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well when i turn the screen on and then off it would say x apps killed then i check the task list and see most of them are killed, but sometimes it doesn't work. Usually when i go directly into task killer then turn it off and then on it would work. Also i made sure task killer itself is not killed
Task killers are terrible. They actually waste battery power and reduce performance. This is well known and has been covered many times.
Uninstall.
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it doesn't use battery to me if you know how to use them correctly i only use it when screen off once
Android has a native task killer built in. The dalvik virtual machine keeps a certain amount of memory free while allowing apps to run and shuts them down when the limits are reached. If you really want to have a better task killer use a mem free script such as v6 supercharger, and use aggressive settings.
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it doesn't use battery to me if you know how to use them correctly i only use it when screen off once
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No offense, but simply put you are completely wrong and clearly do not understand how Android automatically handles processes and memory very efficiently without need for user intervention.
Again, DO NOT use task killers and your phone will work properly - and better.
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Crashdamage said:
No offense, but simply put you are completely wrong and clearly do not understand how Android automatically handles processes and memory very efficiently without need for user intervention.
Again, DO NOT use task killers and your phone will work properly - and better.
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well i tell you why i want to use it. Its only when screen off anyways so minimum killing when necessary. But for example sometimes i start dolphin app and just go back to the main screen but dolphin is still running and using cpu, my phone gets hot, it seems sometimes apps get stuck in cpu. Then when i turn off the phone it will kill it cos of the task killer. If i turn off the phone and i dont kill it, dolphin will continue to use up 40% continuously making the phone hot and use up massive battery. Im sure some of you know this it happens with other apps too maybe its a problem with android gingerbread. Note dolphin doesn't always do this, only sometimes.
what im saying is some apps get cpu locked for some reason, so you have to kill it right?
Then Dolphin is your problem. Fixing it or using a different browser is the cure. Using a task killer is just sticking a Band-Aid over a wound that will never heal.
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Then Dolphin is your problem. Fixing it or using a different browser is the cure. Using a task killer is just sticking a Band-Aid over a wound that will never heal.
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But its not dolphin its other apps too sometimes they get stuck in cpu. So i want to turn off my screen and it will kill all.
granted it happens rarely but it still happens, i notice sometimes when my phone is off and its hot i check the processes and see a funky app wasting on cpu
Same thing still applies. The only real, effective solution is fixing or finding alternatives for the offending apps. Using a task killer is NOT the cure.
If the light in your room will not turn off because the switch is broken, is the right fix replacing the switch or unscrewing the bulb over and over?
Besides, that task killer is causing other problems you're not even aware of.
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Absolutely correct CrashDamage. Task killers do no good at all. Do some Googling on android task killers, and you will get an answer to your concern
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Ok i wont be using dolphin then or just force close that manually if it locks the cpu or if any other app does it.
Yep, use another browser.
you need putting in agressive mode
Just because you see it in the advance task manager doesn't mean it's running. Example samsung stock touchwiz shows you what app is using the cpu. App use a certain amount memory when it gets so to the the limit android with get rid of the oldest app that is not being used. To make room for more.
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Thank you for the information. But I do notice a considerable improvement in battery power with Advanced Task Killer.
I hope someone can provide me an answer.
Hey guys I just foun out that with the widget "ASUS Task Manager" threw the one touch clean I had a really big performance improvement. Before I had 14 tasks running in background which made my tablet really laggy. So maybe this will help you too.
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You can also use any advanced task manager to look at the apps that autostart with the tablet and remove half of them (wisely). I'm using System Tuner at the moment. Seems more sound to me than just hitting 'kill all' once in a while manually and pretty much randomly. It's better to make your device run some while killing or even not starting others..
Infiinty users should also consider changing their Minfree values to let the system take care of freeing the memory more efficiently, you can also see my thread on tweaking in the development section.
guys. where i can download this task manager widget?
i'd like to install it on my Kindle Fire CM9. very nice tool.
juster2 said:
guys. where i can download this task manager widget?
i'd like to install it on my Kindle Fire CM9. very nice tool.
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The one OP speaks of is built into the bloatware of Asus. I use it with pretty good results. The one D14 spoke of is called System Tuner and is available at the play store by searching for it or clicking here.
The thread he referenced is a great one, albeit rather technical, and is located here.
+1 for System Tuner
A long time user of the System Tuner app...
Where does the advice, "don't use task managers with GB or newer because the OS is designed to handle tasks well" fit into this? I have read that advice all over the place and heard it on at least the Android Central podcast. I'm not saying it's wrong but this goes against that. Are we supposed to be killing tasks all the time in ICS?
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Where does the advice, "don't use task managers with GB or newer because the OS is designed to handle tasks well" fit into this? I have read that advice all over the place and heard it on at least the Android Central podcast. I'm not saying it's wrong but this goes against that. Are we supposed to be killing tasks all the time in ICS?
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Im a firm believer in this as a general rule as people go crazy killing tasks that dont need killed. Android memory management is generally pretty good, although alot of times stock ROMs give priority to bloatware. I use the app when I notice lagginess and see that I have games still running. I depend on my tablet to keep me going all day so I can't allow alot of junk running in the background. The best route is to restart the tablet, but that even has flaws with apps autostarting. In general, if you do't know what your doing, dont use a "kill all" as you're killing processes that dont need to be killed and can actually cause your tablet to run slower until these processes restart.
There is one thing I would like to kill all the time - Verizon's Backup Assistant. I have all of its check boxes unchecked and it still runs every few days. Will "System Tuner" let me set it to be killed every time it tries to rear its head?
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There is one thing I would like to kill all the time - Verizon's Backup Assistant. I have all of its check boxes unchecked and it still runs every few days. Will "System Tuner" let me set it to be killed every time it tries to rear its head?
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I do believe you can black list apps and autokill them anytime they pop up.
agree with Chief Geek. task killers on latest android versions can be more evil than good. never used autokill options, always in manual mode but full memory=increased battery drain. also on my kindle fire with 512mb ram, and spb shell 3d installed as default launcher, after i quit from any heavy application(games, browser w/many tabs etc) my launcher takes up to 30-40sec to load back. thats can be annoying. task killer can be useful in some circumstances.
i've found task killer similar to asus task manager. ics task manager. "Search" tool sometimes very helpful if use it with brains people without brains don't use search
PaulQ602 said:
There is one thing I would like to kill all the time - Verizon's Backup Assistant. I have all of its check boxes unchecked and it still runs every few days. Will "System Tuner" let me set it to be killed every time it tries to rear its head?
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It should, it has another list for what's starting at boot time. But if these can't help, try disabling its connectivity in DroidWall or remove it manually as root from where it's installed, probably /system/app (but be careful and make a backup just in case).
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Where does the advice, "don't use task managers with GB or newer because the OS is designed to handle tasks well" fit into this? I have read that advice all over the place and heard it on at least the Android Central podcast. I'm not saying it's wrong but this goes against that. Are we supposed to be killing tasks all the time in ICS?
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Ok, as one who has done a LOT of looking into this for a LONG time, heres my two cents.
If you are constantly killing a task that constantly starts itself up agian, that uses more power than just letting the task sit in the background memory. If extended battery life is your goal, you dont want to constantly be killing the same tasks over and over
If performance is your goal, and you want the most SPEED out of your device, then you want as much free memory available to the device as possible, hence the one click clean dealies. This is usually short lived because most of the tasks you kill will start themselves up again in short order.
Best case: Determine what tasks you are killing often and find a permenant solution. I have frozen maps on occasion because of this. Gotten rid of the facebook app, and also nerfed a bunch of free games because they kept popping up.
Overall task killers are not needed, just know your system and monitor it properly and it will run smooth.
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Overall task killers are not needed, just know your system and monitor it properly and it will run smooth.
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This.
Task killers only temporarily work around the issue. Android is supposed to be handling processes and services by itself. Of course, there are applications that abuse the likes of "persistant" processes and services which can slow it down. Tweaking things like the SuperCharger script does can help, but it's usually apps that are the real culprits.
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PaulQ602 said:
There is one thing I would like to kill all the time - Verizon's Backup Assistant. I have all of its check boxes unchecked and it still runs every few days. Will "System Tuner" let me set it to be killed every time it tries to rear its head?
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I believe that you can just "Disable" this app via the Settings->Apps menus. ICS has a nice feature that will let you disable apps that you don't need. That should stop it from running.
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