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dead bootloader what to do next

I've got a dead bootloader. My device doesn't upgrade thru SD and not with USB. can somebody please help me because i realy don't know what to do. My device is dead for almost 3 weeks now
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Even my backup on SD doesn't load. And this happend after i downgrade the radio version of the well know greek rom
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nobody?
Is there a solution to flash only the bootloader?

I think you need to add some more info, if anyone should have a chance to help. For example what happened when it died - how and why? What happens if you remove the battery cover, replaces it and turns on the device? Text on screen, like USB or Serial? Have you tried uploading ROM from different PCs?
The more info you provide, the more likely it is that someone recognizes your situation from own experience and can provide some help.

HBK said:
I think you need to add some more info, if anyone should have a chance to help. For example what happened when it died - how and why? What happens if you remove the battery cover, replaces it and turns on the device? Text on screen, like USB or Serial? Have you tried uploading ROM from different PCs?
The more info you provide, the more likely it is that someone recognizes your situation from own experience and can provide some help.
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You are totaly right.
I have update my frvice with the wrong greek rom and now i have the 15 sec reboot thing.
When I startup my device he ends up the bootloader and the only way to get the device booting to windows is remove the battery cover. But the her reboots again after the 15 seconds.
In the bootloader i tried to load my backup with the SD card but nothing happens. I also tried to load a ROM with MaUpgradeUt_NoID but nothing happens. I only get empty version thing.
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If i use the regular MaUpgradeUt and change the file change.bat for the xda3nbftool I get a error "error 201: get device data error".
I also tried to backup my device with the wrong ROM on it, to look at the header but nothing happens (romupdate.exe).
So my conclusion is that my bootloader is dead. Please correct me when i'm wrong but if this is the case how can i correct my bootloader.

When you unplug your Magician from the USB cable, what do you see?
If you see (with the backlight OFF) "Serial v1.00" or similar, thats a WORKING bootloader.
Make sure you have Active Sync DISABLED (right click the taskbar icon, click "Connection Settings..." the uncheck "Available by USB".
You should then plug in the USB cable and it should change to "USB v1.00" or similar.
Your PC may detect the connection as new hardware - that is a good sign that you have Active Sync disabled.
Let the New Hardware Wizard do it's thing, then re-run the upgrade setup and it should work.
If not, you've got BIG problems.

guess I'm in big trouble
The only thing i can do, is trying a different pc without ASync. On the current pc i'm working on, USB in activesync is disabled.
Are there any posibilties to reload (rebuilt, update) Bootloader.
Can somebody please help me.

The bootloader is built in as it's own ROM, and I've never seen a utility that can make it writeable. I doubt you've destroyed your bootloader, but that doesn't help you - sounds like you'll have to bite the bullet, act dumber than you are, and return it to the manufacturer for a repair - and probably pay for the privilege.

KevinL said:
The bootloader is built in as it's own ROM, and I've never seen a utility that can make it writeable. I doubt you've destroyed your bootloader, but that doesn't help you - sounds like you'll have to bite the bullet, act dumber than you are, and return it to the manufacturer for a repair - and probably pay for the privilege.
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:shock:
But isn't it strange that if you can't destroy it, it doesn't work anymore? And isn't there somebody who had the same problem?

Before you give up, try this:
Try using another USB cable.
I have experimented many times to realise that the upgrading process does require matching with the right cable.

I noticed that in the screenshot you posted, there is no info on what the device will be upgrade to! I could be wrong, but this may well mean that your device is incompatible with the ROM you are trying to upload.
Try downloading another ROM and give it a go. The best thing would be, if you can find one made specifically for your brand, ie Qtek, I-mate or whatever, and DON'T patch it. Just let the original installer do the job...

Talents said:
Before you give up, try this:
Try using another USB cable.
I have experimented many times to realise that the upgrading process does require matching with the right cable.
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I'm using the cable that came with my device so that can't be wrong. But i could give it a try.
HBK said:
I noticed that in the screenshot you posted, there is no info on what the device will be upgrade to! I could be wrong, but this may well mean that your device is incompatible with the ROM you are trying to upload.
Try downloading another ROM and give it a go. The best thing would be, if you can find one made specifically for your brand, ie Qtek, I-mate or whatever, and DON'T patch it. Just let the original installer do the job...
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There isn't a orignal rom fot the dutch T-mobile MDA. And if you use a original installer, it uses ActiveSync. And i can't boot windows because it restarts after 15 seconds so I can't use ActiveSync.

Why can't you use an original ROM updater, if you have the Greek resetting ROM installed? I believe a lot of us has done so without any problems, including me. I don't remember precisely what I did, but it was no problem whatsoever. Most likely I just entered bootloader mode first, to keep the Magician from resetting...

HBK said:
Why can't you use an original ROM updater, if you have the Greek resetting ROM installed? I believe a lot of us has done so without any problems, including me. I don't remember precisely what I did, but it was no problem whatsoever. Most likely I just entered bootloader mode first, to keep the Magician from resetting...
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I really tried everything but without any results. I realy don't know why i can't use the original ROM updater.

I have the similar problem, but mine one doesnt even start windows. It always go into the bootloader mode and stays there. I try upgrading it, but it gives me communication errors.

Do this
This is what you do.
Disconnect your JAm from USB
Go from your PC , ACTIVESYNC > FILE > CONNECTION SETTINGS > remove the check mark for ALLOW USB CONNECTION TO THIS DESKTOP COMPUTER
Now connect your JAM to your PC again via USB, this time active sync should not start since you have disabled USB
Now double click on the installer file of the original ROM and you should be good to go
After Reset , enable USB ,
Go from your PC , ACTIVESYNC > FILE > CONNECTION SETTINGS > Put a check mark for ALLOW USB CONNECTION TO THIS DESKTOP COMPUTER

MDA dead
I have tried.... it's not responsing as it should be.

flashing!!!!

i have been trying to flash to one of duttys roms and im not getting no where
first of all how do i format my sd card? it brand new so theres nothing on it

Read the Wiki!
gula187 said:
i have been trying to flash to one of duttys roms and im not getting no where
first of all how do i format my sd card? it brand new so theres nothing on it
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You have to read the Wiki and search the threads. The answers are there. Just a note, if you're not sure how to format the SD card, maybe you shouldn't be flashing a new ROM onto your device ... Just a thought
Good Luck ...
Scarlet

is there any way i can get my start menu like this without flashing
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i read the wiki section over and over now my head is hurting i dont know what to do but i want to flash my phone...
1. do i install hard spl to my phone or pc?
2. i cant get nbhextract to run(the screen flash on and goes back off)
3. and for the rom tool..everytime i click on the rom builder a message pop up saying "there is no devices to build rom for exists in config. file
what am i doing wrong

Some short answers
gula187 said:
i read the wiki section over and over now my head is hurting i dont know what to do but i want to flash my phone...
1. do i install hard spl to my phone or pc?
2. i cant get nbhextract to run(the screen flash on and goes back off)
3. and for the rom tool..everytime i click on the rom builder a message pop up saying "there is no devices to build rom for exists in config. file
what am i doing wrong
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1. HardSPL goes on your phone. Please read this thread and make sure you understand the directions for flashing HardSPL http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
2. If you are planning on flashing Dutty's ROM, why are you running nbhexctract?
3. rom tool is also for cooking your own ROMs (which with all due respect, you are clearly NOT ready for, in my humble opinion)
To cook your own ROM, read this wiki entry http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser ROM Kitchen Tutorial
If you just want to flash Dutty's ROM, select the one you like, download it and run it from your PC.
Thats it.

gula187 said:
i read the wiki section over and over now my head is hurting i dont know what to do but i want to flash my phone...
1. do i install hard spl to my phone or pc?
2. i cant get nbhextract to run(the screen flash on and goes back off)
3. and for the rom tool..everytime i click on the rom builder a message pop up saying "there is no devices to build rom for exists in config. file
what am i doing wrong
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first off, it doesn't sound like you've read enough... you have a lot of information but not much comprehension (yet, at least).
second, you should understand that nothing you download or do based on advice from this site is "guaranteed"... you assume all risk for what you do to your phone.
now that that stuff is out of the way, you should install HardSPL before you do anything else ROM related... if you can't install HardSPL following the instructions in that sticky thread, you should stop and figure out why and read about how to fix it (don't try to flash ROMs without HardSPL).
After you get HardSPL installed you can experiment with some of the packaged ROMs developed by the excellent cooks on this site (Kyphur, helmi_c, Sleuth255, Duttythory, Alex etc etc...no offense to the other cooks, I just haven't tried your ROMs yet ).
After you get very familiar with the whole flashing process you might want to dabble in cooking for yourself. When you get to this point the Wiki will make MUCH more sense.
Good Luck

I have installed HardSPL on my tilt, copied the Kaiser_RUU.exe and Ruu_Signed.nbh to my SD card but it gives an error when I run the exe, after reading here, looks like I need to just copy the .nbh to my tilt and run the exe from the pc?
I will try that when I am home later on if this is the case otherwise can a kind guru direct me to the correct way?
Thank you
Maher

maherb said:
I have installed HardSPL on my tilt, copied the Kaiser_RUU.exe and Ruu_Signed.nbh to my SD card but it gives an error when I run the exe, after reading here, looks like I need to just copy the .nbh to my tilt and run the exe from the pc?
I will try that when I am home later on if this is the case otherwise can a kind guru direct me to the correct way?
Thank you
Maher
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Hi,
I'm not shure if I understand your doubt... If you want to flash a cooked Rom into your device, there are two ways, from SD card and from your PC...
FIRST YOU MUST HAVE HARD-SPL INSTALLED (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679)
I think you should read this if you want to flash your device from SD card:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336158
But, the easy way is to flash with your PC, using Activesync 4.5. in that case, all you have to do is plug your device to the PC (wait until activesync gets green), the pick a Cooked Rom of your preference (just search in http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=378 you have dutty's, shap's, quentin, alex, and many others), download it into your PC, extract it and then run the Kaiser_RUU.exe and follow the instructions on the screen...
You can also read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332246
Read all the information in the links above first, because it is a delicate process and, as pof said: "This software is free to use but at your own risk, I take no responsiblity for any conflict, fault, or damage caused by this unlocking procedure.
No warranties of any kind are given, any commercial use is prohibited."...
Good luck
cheers

Hi shadowlabs9;
you did answer my question I have already done the hard spl. The thing I have done wrong, IMO, was copying the exe to my tilt, too much reading, mixed it with SD card flashing, I should have excuted it from my PC, I will try that later. Thank you for your help

ok i just flashed a rom...
after the update finish what do i do? it reset it self and its going back how i had it before i flashed it

Treo Pro CDMA HardSPL Release

--copied from my PPCGeeks thread--
Panther_CDMA (treo pro CDMA) Hard-SPL is here now!
thanks to CFay for testing
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Instructions:
first, this is for CDMA treo pro (SPRINT/VERIZON/TELUS), PANT200.
steps:
0) if you have Vista or Windows 7, make sure you have latest WMDC.
1) download Hard-SPL package from attachment, extract to an empty local folder.
2) you must Have Phone Synced with PC in Windows Mobile!
3) run PANTHER_CDMA_HSPL exe from the folder
4) follow steps in the program!
5) it should go to tricolour screen now, i.e. SSPL mode, and show 0.32.SSPL. now follow steps in the RUU that's launched by now.
6) SPL flashes, device automatically reboots, job done. if you get any errors, follow the instructions offered by the program.
7) to confirm you got it installed, go into bootloader mode (tricolour screen!) and verify the screen shows 0.36.CMONEX.
NOTE: you will not see the SPL version during normal boot!
to enter bootloader mode to see version: with the device turned on, press and hold the Camera button along with the Power button, then press the reset button with the stylus tip, then release the Camera and Power buttons when bootloader tricolour screen appears.
NOTE 2: anyone having problems with the device entering SSPL automatically or problems with USB connection after SSPL was loaded, please copy SSPL-Manual-PantherCDMA.exe from the SSPLManual.zip attachment to the device and run it. then once the screen is in SSPL, run CustomRUU on the PC, and flash HardSPL NBH from attachment.
NOTE 3: this is unsigned Hard-SPL. no limitations on flashing ROMs. also, this has overwrite protection, if someone needs to revert to stock SPL for warranty reasons, a stock SPL downgrade package will soon be posted.
NOTE 4: do not use this RUU to flash anything else! this is only intended for flashing the HardSPL.
[SIZE=+2]finally, if you wish to thank me with a donation[/SIZE], you can do so by clicking the link the HardSPL program offers, or here: http://hpcmonex.net/htc/pantc/panther.htm
enjoy

--copy from PPCGeeks continued--
Troubleshooting tips:
- read the instructions
- read the instructions
- read the instructions
- if you have USB issues:
1. anyone having problems with the device entering SSPL automatically or problems with USB connection after SSPL was loaded, please copy SSPL-Manual-PantherCDMA.exe from the SSPLManual.zip attachment to the device and run it (make sure USB is plugged in). then once the screen is in SSPL, run RUU manually. i.e. you run the RUU on the PC, if it isn't obvious.
2. if it still has connection error in SSPL screen, try unplugging and replugging the USB
3. try different USB port, PC, etc.
4. when there are sync issues, the program also suggests installing this file on the phone: http://hpcmonex.net/roms/enablerapinew.cab, just making a note here too.
4. it's been verified that you can flash HardSPL from SD in SSPL, see instructions below.
Updates:
HardSPL NBH file is now downloadable from 1st post! you can flash this from SD now; rename this NBH to PANTIMG.NBH, put it on a fat32 formatted SD, and then run SSPL-Manual-PantherCDMA.exe on the phone.
steps for stock SPL restore:
0. only use this for warranty service! for no other purpose!!! also before flashing this, make sure you already have stock ROM flashed.
1. download Stock_SPL_Restore_036.zip attachment from 1st post, extract it.
2. get customRUU and flash this file. can also do SD flash (PANTIMG.NBH).

cmonex said:
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Troubleshooting tips:
- read the instructions
- read the instructions
- read the instructions
- if you have USB issues:
1. anyone having problems with the device entering SSPL automatically or problems with USB connection after SSPL was loaded, please copy SSPL-Manual-PantherCDMA.exe from the SSPLManual.zip attachment to the device and run it (make sure USB is plugged in). then once the screen is in SSPL, run RUU manually. i.e. you run the RUU on the PC, if it isn't obvious.
2. if it still has connection error in SSPL screen, try unplugging and replugging the USB
3. try different USB port, PC, etc.
4. when there are sync issues, the program also suggests installing this file on the phone: http://hpcmonex.net/roms/enablerapinew.cab, just making a note here too.
4. it's been verified that you can flash HardSPL from SD in SSPL, see instructions below.
Updates:
HardSPL NBH file is now downloadable from 1st post! you can flash this from SD now; rename this NBH to PANTIMG.NBH, put it on a fat32 formatted SD, and then run SSPL-Manual-PantherCDMA.exe on the phone.
steps for stock SPL restore:
0. only use this for warranty service! for no other purpose!!! also before flashing this, make sure you already have stock ROM flashed.
1. download Stock_SPL_Restore_036.zip attachment from 1st post, extract it.
2. get customRUU and flash this file. can also do SD flash (PANTIMG.NBH).
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thanks cmonex,
Your hard-spl works fine on my treo pro.
After replacing original hspl with yours, immediately i just try to flash a new custom rom into my treo pro, but this time failed, ether usb-way or storage-way.
Then after a big searching job, finally i found a treo pro kitchen which can given custom rom automatically, also this custom rom could be write into treo pro,
Things goes pretty sweet till now, BUT, BUT, BUT.......................
After rom writing job finish, treo pro restart, system is stopped at splash screen, i am jammed!
Later i find out that damned kitchen is only used for producing 'panther200' roms
and my treo pro tri-color screen is displaying 'panther100', does this mean that kitchen is used for any other treo pro? for example, sprint, cdma?
right now only one thing i am pretty sure-----my treo pro is poisoned!
once again, please, cmonex, any ideas for solve this problem?
online waitting!

hellketty said:
thanks cmonex,
Your hard-spl works fine on my treo pro.
After replacing original hspl with yours, immediately i just try to flash a new custom rom into my treo pro, but this time failed, ether usb-way or storage-way.
Then after a big searching job, finally i found a treo pro kitchen which can given custom rom automatically, also this custom rom could be write into treo pro,
Things goes pretty sweet till now, BUT, BUT, BUT.......................
After rom writing job finish, treo pro restart, system is stopped at splash screen, i am jammed!
Later i find out that damned kitchen is only used for producing 'panther200' roms
and my treo pro tri-color screen is displaying 'panther100', does this mean that kitchen is used for any other treo pro? for example, sprint, cdma?
right now only one thing i am pretty sure-----my treo pro is poisoned!
once again, please, cmonex, any ideas for solve this problem?
online waitting!
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yea, panther 100 is GSM afaik... but this thread is CDMA hardspl. or do you mean you flashed the GSM hardspl I released in another thread? (it would be 0.59.CMONEX)
the problem is really just that you need to flash a GSM panther rom, so just flash the shipped RUU for *GSM* treo pro.

cmonex said:
yea, panther 100 is GSM afaik... but this thread is CDMA hardspl. or do you mean you flashed the GSM hardspl I released in another thread? (it would be 0.59.CMONEX)
the problem is really just that you need to flash a GSM panther rom, so just flash the shipped RUU for *GSM* treo pro.
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thanks cmonex,
my hp is GSM device, sorry for posting problem on this CDMA thread,
problems fixed!
yes, after hspl hacking, it displays 0.59.CMONEX on my treo pro tri-color screen,
The reason for failed loading GSM rom to treo pro is because of wrong format of my TF card, previously i was using TF card for U drive with WINPE system, and i think i messed up with memory format since that moment.
So right now one thing is clear, windows default format function won't help, i mean after windows formatting, TF card properties shows FAT32, but still something wrong with it.
Later on i found an app called [usboot] can doing the proper formatting job, then everything goes fine.
currently i am back on track & WWE 6.1 custom rom works fine, thank you very much for your kindly help!

[Q] data crashes

please help! Does anybody know what massage "data crashes, Contact your Service Center"? it happened when i put SIM card to my phone - supposed its locked but i dont how to unlock it, ive tried free onffline unlocker but it didnt help! (i have czech t-mobile SIM)...

Did you bother to search the forum? Just 10 post below we had discussed it.

tobbbie said:
Did you bother to search the forum? Just 10 post below we had discussed it.
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i read that but it seems to me that only solution is to pay for some code! Ive already tried mention programs to unlock it but it didnt help - at least it shows signal now but there is still "data crashes" massage....

Unfortunately the procedure from IMEI-CHECK.UK is the only available working one - at least there IS a procedure (more than just a "code") to revive your device. Up to you what to do - if you find an alternate way to handle this (gutek85 is investigating), let us know.

tobbbie said:
Unfortunately the procedure from IMEI-CHECK.UK is the only available working one - at least there IS a procedure (more than just a "code") to revive your device. Up to you what to do - if you find an alternate way to handle this (gutek85 is investigating), let us know.
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ok - strange thing is that i havent used my Tornado for a long time and i think it worked before without any problems!?! ....

You messed it sometime with an SIM-unlock/super-CID procedure. You will only notice with a SIM card - so if you played around with flashing long time back already without a SIM, you may not even have noticed the problem.

but what is the solution?

The solution is pay IMEI-CHECK.UK or wait for effects of my work (if this works)

no no, im not gonna pay anything for this especialy when there is no certain result. i tried several programs but nothing worked. i find it strange that i can lock phone but cant unlock it back....also found out this: when i tried to flash new ROM everything looks normal during procedure (on the screen there is 100 %) but after restart there is still the same one ROM...:-(

Report in detail what did not work and how you prepared your device for successful flashing. Make sure you understood what the following terms mean:
- application unlocking
- SIM unlocking
- CID unlocking
and how you can check each of these are successfully executed.

i know what - SIM unlocking and CID unlocking means but dont know how to unlock them. i also have artemis which is in fact tornado with touchscreen and gps and i could CID unlock it easily and than tried many ROMS(SIM unlocking wasnt necessary), but i havent found solution for this yet....if there would be 100 % (at least 99 % ) guide for this it would be great....

Plenty has been told, in this thread and others. Lokiwiz tooling is 100% if you execute all steps carefully and don't leave trash of previous unlocks behind in the directory. It worked for all of my devices since spv-services is no more available. It has SIM unlocked a Hurricane and a Tornado and CID unlocked about 10 Tornados, 2 Hurricanes and 3 Typhoon - without any error.
Look at the batch, analyse what it does and take action accordingly. A safety precaution is to rename the pdocwrite.exe in the tools directory for the first run, so it will not actually write the unlocked encrypted block. Then compare the two .bin files to see if they are different. If they are identical then your device was probably already CID unlocked. Access the SPL in bootmode with TTerm (command "info 2") then the bottom line should tell "HTC superCID" or similar.
The latter is discussed and told in most kitchen and ROM threads - so nothing new. Just look at my signature and follow the link after "WM6+SDHC cooked ROM".

"Data chrashes..." fix method
tobbbie said:
Unfortunately the procedure from IMEI-CHECK.UK is the only available working one - at least there IS a procedure (more than just a "code") to revive your device. Up to you what to do - if you find an alternate way to handle this (gutek85 is investigating), let us know.
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Probably I found method to reconstruct encrypted block after "Data crashes..." message I write modified CID block from Tornado1 to Tornado2 and phone still works ok. Send PM to sunny_morning and he(she) can be my beta tester (if wants). If this works, write full instruction on this forum Now waiting for answer from sunny_morning...

Oh, well - this can be good news
What I know from my old investigations was that the encrypted block needs to be encrypted with the DOC-ID of the "new" device and that another key is required (one of 100 possible - depending on the DOC-ID) to do so. It is a quite complicated process, I think.
With your suggested procedure would it be mandatory to change the IMEI of the device (to the one of the old device - hence "cloning" the device) or will it be the original IMEI?
What did you verify already with your spare device?
I also have some spare Tornados (with encrypted block backups) to assist in testing if you like.

It's wird, because after write into MTTY "info 2" comand it displays:
info 2
GetDeviceInfo=0x00000002
GetDeviceCID: Error - InitDecoder
HTCS ´í•6HTCE
Cmd>
but i can flash nev ROM and GSM works... I know it should show SiperCID information, but it still works...
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Any idea???

I think that only works with a WM6.5 - not with original shipped ROMs. This seems special in some ways, possibly some checks have been patched, so bypassing conditions that make other ROMs fail with GSM access.
How do you know that GSM "works"?
Could you make normal calls with the changed encrypted block?
Mind that "data crashes" only affects GSM use - all other functions of the device work unchanged even under this condition.
What you described was also happening to AlainL and he did not succeed in getting it resolved - neither did I when receiving the broken device. After getting the IMEI-check.uk procedure done everything is back to normal.

1. Yes, you're right. It works only witch cooked WM 6.5 rom (I tried this only on this ROM), doesnt work on shipped ROM.
2. I'm sure, because I can call from this phone I'll try working on WM5 shipped ROM...
3. I'm workin hard to fix all this damage for free
P.S. I have a backup copy of my original encrypted block, so there is no risc...
Edit:
You have right once again... After flashing to Shipped Qtek ROM I have message "Data crashes..." Maybe solution to the problem is upgrading to Gregory WM6.5 ROM... Or there is any patch for shipped ROMs...
This is getting harder than I thought
Edit2:
After downgrade to shipped WM5 Qtek ROM I can't upgrade back to WM6.5 Gregory ROM. Progress bar goes to 100%, but after reboot I have the same WM5 Qtek ROM My (alternative) SPV C600 is sentenced to WM5 Qtek Shipped ROM...

You should copy back the original encrypted block (with the real HTC SuperCID) then the normal flashing should work again.
Get in contact with the originator of the WM6.5 ROM on what he did to the RIL (Radio Interface Layer) to skip the check on the encrypted block. Probably the ROM would also not care about an active SIM lock in the encrypted block.
In that case, probably a ROM cook could insert the "robust" RIL to any Tornado ROM?

I have backup copy of original SuperCID encrypted block, but i can't flash it back (it's created from WST), because i can't now connect with Wizard Service Tool (Qtek WM5 ROM)
I think you're right. WM6.5 by SGregory is more CID-block problems proof. That's why Tornado still could make calls, despite a damaged CID block
My next step is find informations how to convert CID-block backup from .fls to .bin file. Then I'll try to flash it back by lokiwiz02b

gutek85 said:
My next step is find informations how to convert CID-block backup from .fls to .bin file. Then I'll try to flash it back by lokiwiz02b
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Just make a copy of the block with lokiwiz. They both use the itsutils for doing the job and it should be a straight binary copy only. Probably you can right away rename the WST backup to the name required for the lokiwiz.

Root and ROM for Chinese S810 S820 T9199+ MTK65x3 and other phones

If you have bought one of these phones from eBay or wherever as I did you will probably be struggling with all the annoying Chinese stuff (unless your Chinese of course) and trying to root and ROM it.
It is NOT possible to brick the MTK65x3 chipset phones so don't worry about breaking it if you have one of these. Some people are saying they have 'soft bricked' their MTK65x3 phones but that is only because they do not have the correct software to do what it is they are trying to do.
There is another method posted on XDA by a chap (or chapette) called 'bn' someone or other but I personally found it a very long winded, badly explained and difficault tutorial. I in no way am suggesting that 'bn' is not professional, he likely knows much more about this stuff than I but I didn't find he was very 'layman' friendly for us folke that need more detailed instructions.
If your reading this 'bn' I mean that with total respect and have a tool I have found called 'MTK ROM Studio' that I was hoping you may be able to help teach us how to use correctly to backup and modify our ROM images.
If anybody wants to ammend or correct anything I write here then please feel free to do so if you are sure of your method. I am not an expert at this but I can tell you how to easily do the following with software I am posting.
1. Root the Chinese MTK phones.
2. Install Uncle_Tools which is simular to Clockwork (CW does not work on some or all of these phones).
3. Uninstall all Chinese stuff from your current ROM at the touch of a button.
4. Download your own scatter.txt from your phone.
5. Download your own firmware information text document
6. Install BusyBox
7. Install Superuser
8. Backup your current ROM to your SD card.
9. Change IMEI 1
10. Change IMEI 2
Download the file I have posted at the bottom of this page and extract (Run) the 'MTKdroidTools_v106.exe' setup file.
The other file, 'ROM Studio' is for those that feel confident in using it to develop some ROM mods or whatever that they will hopefully let us know about. I am not going any further into that without help.
Open the MTKdroidTools folder and start (double click) the green MTKdroidTools.exe icon.
Don't be alarmed that some of the text is mumbo jumbo, just ignore it and read the English bits! I have converted some of the original Russian text to English but if anyone can clean it up please feel free.
In some or all cases (sorry I'm not sure) it may be required for you to pre-flash the recovery.img first. You may as well do this anyway and I have included everything you need in this file MTK65x3_Recovery_Flashing.rar (Sorry I no longer have this software)
The pictures explain it all. I hope this helps you out somewhat.
Droid_Tools_s810_s820_T9199+.rar (Updated Link - Register with 4 Shared for free downloads)
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The investment isn't possible for downloading! the mistake stands out:
404 Page Not Found
The page you requested was not found.

meralex said:
The investment isn't possible for downloading! the mistake stands out:
404 Page Not Found
The page you requested was not found.
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"The investment isn't possible for downloading! the mistake stands out:" I have been working with computers for years and never seen that before!
Are you sure your not using some naffy download manager as the link works fine when I click it.
If your trying to download this on your phone then don't, this is a Windows application that accesses your phone over USB

This mistake arose in Mozilla Firefox 12, Google Chrome 19, Internet Explorer 9, Opera 12 (computers). I suspect that a problem simply in the file name????

meralex said:
This mistake arose in Mozilla Firefox 12, Google Chrome 19, Internet Explorer 9, Opera 12 (computers). I suspect that a problem simply in the file name????
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Sorry your quite right, a corrupted archive. I have uploaded it to my own website so please try again, it should be fine.
Also I have tried some of the other ROM's for download on here and they are not as good as the pre-installed one on mine. In my opinion your better off just deleting the chinese crap and tweaking your existing ROM.
Oh and I have mixed boot images and data files from different ROM's loads of times and black screened my phone but easily got it back again so I guess you really can't brick these! That's a first for me!

Thanks! Now everything managed to be downloaded!

Hi,
I think by 'bn' you'are talking about BM (Bruno martins, a portugues guy), who posted his work on:
- his website
- eten users forum
I already root my s820 using Unlock Root and installed SuperUser, But wanted to try you proposition, to remove chinese applications...
... but when I download your .rar, "MTKdroidTools_v106.exe" cannot be executed.
Am' I the only one who cannot launch it ?
Another think:
It exists a update.rar rom for T9199+ devices on the web:
(see on talkingmobi.com/?s=T9199&x=0&y=0, click on T9199 link, then click on the green button)
According to the date release (2011-10-28), I think this is the original rom of our devices.

The Droid Tools is a "7z.SFX.exe" which is basically a self extracting 7zip archive. You should be able to right click it and extract it with WinRar as I can. If not install 7zip and open it with that.
I have just downloaded my upload, extracted it and ran it and it works fine for me.
Droid_Tools_s810_s820_T9199+.rar

You're right : the second try was the good one !
I launched "MTKdroidTools" and created my scatter.txt
After test, It seems that the Root-Shell is obligatory to launch at each session to allow Device access,
But for me, like on your screenshot, the buttons "delete chines apps", "backup" etc... are not clickable...
(see image below)
I already test an other way to make a backup (by the recovery), but it appears several error messages:
"Error: names longer than 100 chars not supported"
is there an other mean to backup our device (perhaps TitaniumBackup... ) ?

Hmm... That's new!
You won't be able to use the Remove Chinese App's / Backup etc untill your phone has sucessfully rooted which is why those buttons are not clickable.
What I can think of to check so far:
1. Have you got USB debugging enabled? If not then turn it on and try again.
2. Pre-Flash the recovery.img by following this and don't forget to install the included drivers! Recovery_Flash as I did that before using this software.
Let me know how you get on!
I have just noticed that the scatter.txt included in my Recovery_Flash link is formatted slightly differently from the one in the phone. Maybe that is why the root works after, I dunno!

It's all Right !!
I had already :
- enabled USB debugging
- pre-flashed the recovery.img proposed by BM
So I just pre-flashed recovery.img using my new scatter.txt (which indeed is a little different that the one proposed by BM)... AND IT RAN ! (see image below)
Asta la vista Chinese App's & hello backup !
I found the original russian post where this "MTKdroidTools_v106.exe" has been proposed; it seems that it will still evolve... !

Cool, glad u got it to go bud.
Drop me a 'Thanks' if you would
Phill.

Question
How do you flash a splash image to the S820?

sparkyuiop said:
There is another method posted on XDA by a chap (or chapette) called 'bn' someone or other but I personally found it a very long winded, badly explained and difficault tutorial. I in no way am suggesting that 'bn' is not professional, he likely knows much more about this stuff than I but I didn't find he was very 'layman' friendly for us folke that need more detailed instructions.
If your reading this 'bn' I mean that with total respect and have a tool I have found called 'MTK ROM Studio' that I was hoping you may be able to help teach us how to use correctly to backup and modify our ROM images.
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Were you referring to me?

how can i do the opposite? i want to dump everything
Sent from my T9199+ using XDA

shurizzle said:
how can i do the opposite? i want to dump everything
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Here is the tutorial for that.

problem
I have the s820 and I have done the procedure many times to install recovery. Writes ok in the end. I press power + vol+ and not start anything. When you start to retrieve the letters seem too little and the screen is black. I can not make any choices.
Recovery с сайта 592zn.com портированный мной на S810_MT6573/S820_MT6573. Версия V1. Скачать:
592zn.com_recovery_S810_MT6573
592zn.com_recovery_S820_MT6573
592zn.com_recovery_S820_V2_MT6573
Sorry for English.

This program MTK Droid Root tools can do the backup ROM. We can do this directly from the program restore.??? If so, how???

realy working ROM
:crying:
Dear friends,
do you have some one realy working ROM for S820?
My pfone has problem with volume lavel of voice from microphone and display is shakeing with picture and so I'm not able directly tap to icon or html link in Opera.
BR Tomas
:crying:

Thanks for topic but I have a different baseband :
Code:
MAUI.11AMD.W11.37.SP.V3.F2.P1
and mtk droid root can't root, any ideas?