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AFT firmware mod for HTC Dream (Android 1.5)

AFT firmware mod for HTC Dream
This reflash is hybrid build from leaked files and sources of Magic reflash.
* I do not include any radio's in my build. If you are coming from an RC33 build, you can get the latest radio 2.22.19.23 here This is the same radio as the one that came from HTC.
http://sapphire-port-dream.googlecode.com/files/Saphire-Radio-Update (rc33).zip
Набиши
This Build based on the The Dude's Cupcake v0.8 NO WIPE Regular and have some changes:
Changes made by AndroidFan team:
• All packages in reflash had been optimized like in other official Android releases. Due to this the final size of the image had increased. It made us to delete some useless stuff. But this optimization saves approximately 20 Mb of user data and improves system performance and startup time.
• Chinese font, voice dial files and several standard ringtones were deleted to save extra disk space.
• Busybox was also removed (unfortunately there were no enough space for it)
• 2 on-screen keyboards
• Russian language is installed by default and can be switched to English easely.
The most important improvement – is optimization. Dex files (with code) are being extracted from package during its installation. After phone-targeted optimization they are put into cache folder. All non-final reflashes comes with usual packages which should be optimized before usage. During optimization process all non-optized code is being replaced by ready-to-use one. This saves storage space and improves performance.
Here are several screenshots:
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You can ask any questions on our forum: http://forum.androidfan.ru. We are waiting for your feedback.
you can add the link in this thread , its more practical
Download link :
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Is performance the only upgrade to this build, or are there any other functional changes/upgrades/enhancements?
Sorry I don't speak Russian, so forgive me for posting the question here rather than http://androidfan.ru....:D

Actually not only performance, we also tried to improve stability and added ‘garbage collector’. We are just at the beginning of our work, further releases are to come. Btw, there is a special thread on our board for English-speaking users.

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Btw, there is a special thread on our board for English-speaking users.
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Good luck with that. It took me 10 minutes to find that thread. I had to find the forum link in the menu through trial and error.
I don't see this catching on much, especially with this kind of support. If a noob can't figure out how to rename a zip file, I doubt they're going to search a russian website for the answer.

bahnburner said:
Good luck with that. It took me 10 minutes to find that thread. I had to find the forum link in the menu through trial and error.
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10 minutes, really?
The first line of the OP's post is a link to the thread in their forum. Granted, yes, all the buttons and links are in Russian and definitely something users from here are not going to want to deal with.

you can add the link in this thread , its more practical http://files.androidfan.ru/flash/monsters/TheDudesCupcake0.8-aft1.zip

xyrcncp said:
10 minutes, really?
The first line of the OP's post is a link to the thread in their forum. Granted, yes, all the buttons and links are in Russian and definitely something users from here are not going to want to deal with.
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I clicked the link at the bottom of his post which was originally androidfan.ru, but has since been changed to forums.androidfan.ru. I must have been wrong assuming the first link in his post was a direct link to the actual firmware, considering that's what it was labeled as.

bahnburner said:
I clicked the link at the bottom of his post which was originally androidfan.ru, but has since been changed to forums.androidfan.ru
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I was referring to the first line of his post:
hobbit19 said:
AFT firmware mod for HTC Dream
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Either way, that doesn't matter, what matters is that questions and/or troubleshooting should be made here instead of a Russian site where users are definitely gonna have issues posting or even registering to post.

xyrcncp said:
what matters is that questions and/or troubleshooting should be made here instead of a Russian site where users are definitely gonna have issues posting or even registering to post.
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Exactly my point. Thank you sir.

Sorry browser bug double post :s

imfloflo said:
you can add the link in this thread , its more practical http://files.androidfan.ru/flash/monsters/TheDudesCupcake0.8-aft1.zip
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We caught that the first time.

Has anyone tried flashing this, yet? I'm curious as to how it compares to Haykuro's 5.0.2G.

Hello, me and Dude have been talking and it's become a bit of a problem.
I have been as respectful as possible to support xmoo, his source, and everyone that is helping me.
Dude has been respectful enough to mention his work is based off mine, and tell you what parts exactly are based on my work.
You haven't given anyone from the community any credit. Please don't be a mooch. that's just lame.

haykuro said:
Hello, me and Dude have been talking and it's become a bit of a problem.
I have been as respectful as possible to support xmoo, his source, and everyone that is helping me.
Dude has been respectful enough to mention his work is based off mine, and tell you what parts exactly are based on my work.
You haven't given anyone from the community any credit. Please don't be a mooch. that's just lame.
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Wtf come down everone. I would had been better i all those custom bulid had come together into one but that would be in a perfect world o well. I will stick with the dude m=bulid intill Tmobile comes out with the up date then i will say see yay sucker JF bulid will be better becouse it uesd the bug free one.

haykuro said:
Hello, me and Dude have been talking and it's become a bit of a problem.
I have been as respectful as possible to support xmoo, his source, and everyone that is helping me.
Dude has been respectful enough to mention his work is based off mine, and tell you what parts exactly are based on my work.
You haven't given anyone from the community any credit. Please don't be a mooch. that's just lame.
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Trust me when I say russians can be quite rude unintentionally but yes some designated 'props' are in order as well as a "spec" list of where the build is.
Haykuro- I would pm this but I have a feeling your box gets overcrowded so let me just say a considerable donation would be made to you if you could produce a build based off the current G build that would allow my wife to switch back and forth between russian and english as she chooses for text etc.

Its great that more and more people are creating custom roms. I love options!

it would be even better if everyone would work together on one build instead of a half dozen different builds....

omwill422 said:
Trust me when I say russians can be quite rude unintentionally but yes some designated 'props' are in order as well as a "spec" list of where the build is.
Haykuro- I would pm this but I have a feeling your box gets overcrowded so let me just say a considerable donation would be made to you if you could produce a build based off the current G build that would allow my wife to switch back and forth between russian and english as she chooses for text etc.
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Omwill
Dude's G build has Russian locale in it. Look at the screenshots, see if you like it.
There's an option of installing Russian VK (3rd screenshot) into any build, it was on the market at some point... not anymore though. I still have it somewhere. Let me know if you need it, I"ll send it to you. It's fairly simple VK, no spell check, no auto correction but it does the job.
Good luck.

no chinese fonts. no busybox....……

Hey come on you guys. This guy has come on here to show us another version of Android. Lets discuss his version instead of Dude's, or JF's or Haykuro's. We can discuss theirs in their threads.

JF preps CRC1-based build & tips on circumventing OTA for JF US/EU users

CRC1 patch is hitting the interwebs. Notable Android hacker JesusFreke issued the following update on his blog for those running JF1.51 US/EU builds:
http://jf.andblogs.net/ said:
OTAs in JFv1.51
July 19, 2009 If you are on the US or EU versions of JFv1.51, you’ll likely get an OTA update notification soon, if you haven’t already. I had accidentally left in the otacerts.zip file, which allows OTAs to be downloaded and verified.
For now, there are a few possible work arounds.
1. delete the otacerts.zip file manually. The file is at /system/etc/security/otacerts.zip But keep in mind if you use this method your phone will continuously re-down the OTA and try to verify it, which is bad on your bandwidth usage and your battery life
2. Replace /system/build.prop on your phone with the one from the ADP1 version of JFv1.51
3. chmod 000 the OTA file in /cache (unconfirmed solution, but is likely to work)
Or you can ignore the popups for now, and wait for my new release based on the new update (CRC1). I promise to “disable” the OTA mechanisms in a better way than simply deleting otacerts.zip
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. I should be able to get something out soon (next few days)
In the meantime, even if you accidentally hit “accept” on the popup, it won’t be able to install the update when it gets into recovery, so you aren’t at risk of losing root access.
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thank god, or should i say, thank jesusfreke

nice cant wait till the new buil is released thanx JF

Thanks for keeping us abreast!....
thats right i said it... abreast.

finally!
the freke himself has graced the masses! I feel bad i switched to cyaogen.... i guess i can maake it up to JF with a donation

pistol4413 said:
the freke himself has graced the masses! I feel bad i switched to cyaogen.... i guess i can maake it up to JF with a donation
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Why do you feel bad? You're not betraying anyone as you're not obligated to just one dev. I appreciate all the devs out there, equally.

all in the family
no need to feel bad; CyanogenMod is a DF derivative

I wonder if he will make it support ext3

DOHCtor said:
Why do you feel bad? You're not betraying anyone as you're not obligated to just one dev. I appreciate all the devs out there, equally.
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I know I shouldn't, but that's just the type of person I am. When I like something I become loyal to it weither it be a certian Rom or dev, or just something in general I guess. I call it loyalty some people call it being close minded

pistol4413 said:
When I like something I become loyal to it weither it be a certian Rom or dev
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This kind of mentality can breed what is affectionately called "fanboyism".

Can breed, doesn't have to breed. Like I stay loyal to JF because I'm not a fan of roms that contain many ported apps. It's mostly bloat to me, as I don't need to take advantage of it all.
Cyanogen's roms would be interesting to give a try to sometime down the road. But I'm happy on my JF ADP build, it's close enough to stock (without the bloatware the US builds add in) to be compatible and runs light enough to work snappily.

"This is serious. The only thing you can do to prevent it is turn off your phone," Miller told Forbes. "Someone could pretty quickly take over every iPhone in the world with this."
The iPhone SMS bug is just one of a series that the researchers plan to reveal in their talk. They say they've also found a similar texting bug in Windows Mobile that allows complete remote control of Microsoft ( MSFT - news - people )-based devices. Another pair of SMS bugs in the iPhone and Google's ( GOOG - news - people ) Android phones would purportedly allow a hacker to knock a phone off its wireless network for about 10 seconds with a series of text messages. The trick could be repeated again and again to keep the user offline, Miller says. Though Google has patched the Android flaw, this second iPhone bug also remains unpatched, he adds.
The new round of bugs aren't the first that Miller has dug up in the iPhone's code. In 2007, he became the first to remotely hijack the iPhone using a flaw in its browser. But while that vulnerability gave the attacker a similar power over the phone's functions, it required tricking the user into visiting an infected Web site to invisibly download a piece of malicious software. When Miller alerted Apple in July of that year, the company patched the vulnerability before Miller publicized the bug at the Black Hat conference the following month. ("See: Hacking the iPhone.")
sourses
http://gizmodo.com/5325703/iphone-s...llow-every-iphone-in-the-world-to-be-hijacked
http://www.forbes.com/2009/07/28/ha...direct-gri.ms&utm_content=bookmarklet-twitter
i guess this is what that CRC1 patch was for

JF must be cooking up something real good because he's taking quite a while to release the CRC1 roms. I can't wait...

DOHCtor said:
JF must be cooking up something real good because he's taking quite a while to release the CRC1 roms. I can't wait...
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yeah wish he would give us an update, if he's not going to release anything then i'd like to know so i can think about changing to someone else firmware.

[TOOL] The Android RΩM Database v0.5

This is a little program I wrote that people wanted back when android roms first came out, and now I have had a little time to be able to put it together. What this is, is a database that I will fill with complete information regarding android roms that users may want to download.
It diminishes the need for users asking the same old questions like "Does wifi work?" or "What Android OS is it?". This would save a lot of posts and time. The screenshot below is both colourful (yeah, I'm canadian) and satisfying to the users that wanted this to ease their use. All downloads through this program are DDLs, meaning Direct Download Links hosted on a couple of Fast Download servers that should also eliminate any rapidshare waiting or time wasting on megaupload looking at it's glossy orange-ness. Anyway.
(08-09-11)
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Any type of critism welcome, I've been through just about all stages of it by now.
Here we go, Please report any problems. I have done programming the first beta. Well, it functions, so it should be a 1.0 But I am waiting for feedback.
To be an uploader/moderator for tAROMDB, you must make a request within the application after registering. After doing so, PM on this forum, or mine, of your username that you requested with, and i'll bring you upto speed on how things will work as an uploader or moderator. It's very easy, and it looks great overall. As a reminder, this database has like no ROMs in it, so don't download this unless you are willing to do some uploading, or just want to check it out.
Download Windows v0.5 Here
Download Linux v0.5 Here
[Changelog]
Version 0.5
+ Added Tactile commenting/ratings (98% complete)
+ Added more ROM information available for a single rom
+ Updated GUI to reflect the new information added
+ Added 2 ROMs for example (32A, New Radio)
+ The system uses FTP for uploading and downloading, it makes things a bit more accurate.
++ Kernels will be added soon
++ Themes will be added soon
Version 0.2
+ Added User Accounts
+ Added Ratings
+ Added Comments
+ Fixed Back button
+ Added "World's Smallest (in kb) MP3 Player" on right click
- Taken out Submitting restriction (Anyone can now submit and upload a ROM)
- Re-coded the navigation from scratch
I'll have to apologize for making the ROM Submitter not as...pretty as the other pages. I just felt it really isn't needed too much. But, if you really want me to do it up, just let me know.

I'd be willing to help maintain the database as much as I can.
EDIT: Maybe a 32A / 32B option as well. Allows people to not get confused. Make it so that Yellow is 32A and Red being 32B or something. So that you can't make any mistake

Sorry I should post the other screenshots. All categorizing has been done. Including Phones + Their phone model types.
**Updated with how the categorization would work (Forum/Thread style with Downloads)
- Phones can be added, Subcategories/Models can be attached to each phone, and Roms and Themes can be specified.

How would you be maintaining this database for users? It would have to read from an online server would it not.

Yeap, and I'm going to include a "Submit A ROM" Button for select people and devs. So it eliminates people spamming it with multiple duplicates.

Well if you need a hand maintaining the database, I would be happy to help.

Thanks. I will put it up for download when I finish Setting up the "Submit ROM" section. PM me your IP. :/ Only reason I ask of this is to only allow YOUR IP to be able to see the section for adding roms No malicious-ness.

Look, my ROM is in there! I'm famous!

Lol, your ROM is actually a wicked example for my programs tests.

it will be awesome, we need this.

Nice idea, but not original...
Look at
http://db.androidspin.com/android_build_information.asp
they categorizing roms but it's messy...
Your work may be better, if you want to continue project...

I got the idea FROM androidspin, and BECAUSE it was the ugliest implementation of categorized roms. And plus, it's a web app, meaning it uses PHP. PHP has its limitations. As opposed to desktop applications that could do a shiz load of more. I'm almost ready to release this thing. I'm just finishing up the Submitting and categorizing.
I added Camera,Wipe, and Sync as per requested by many people through PM. Thanks.

Please continue developing and please release this! This project has alot of potential, and it looks awesome.
I'd be happy to keep the database up to date. PM me if you want my IP adress.

PM ME if you want your IP address added to access the submitting features. Too many people to PM, so whoever wants to help, PM me.

Hi, you should put two categories under magic 32A. One for 3.xx.xx.xx radio and other for 6.xx.xx.xx if you havent already
Regards,
Eyegor

good job .. how about puting req for each Rom like spl and radio and any other special req
one more thing : can u make a form that can be filled by devs ( an nfo like file ) and recognized by ur program so that any new rom can be added easily

This is a fantastic idea!
A rom repository that hopefully would work across XDA, HoFo, Modaco and so on
maybe you should add a link to the forum thread that is the project home for each rom, so people would know where to give response on the rom.
I am looking forward to discovering new roms to play with once you release you program.
Are you going to add the possibilty to rate roms?

Remobero said:
can u make a form that can be filled by devs ( an nfo like file ) and recognized by ur program so that any new rom can be added easily
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That is exactly what I am doing right now. Since a LOT, yes a whole lot of people have been requesting a Section on SPL & Radios, that's going to make my life a lot more impossible. It means I need to re-program everything to setup for new types of categories. Well, I don't have a problem with programming stuff, I can't live without doing something so I will do it, but only if enough people agree to this program NOT being released for a little while longer.
cagra said:
maybe you should add a link to the forum thread that is the project home for each rom, so people would know where to give response on the rom.
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Well, I have my own forum, I could just shove all the roms individual stuff there. But, I was thinking. What if I added a comments response system within the program? Like, how the android market has comments. Hmm.. wow, more re-programming. Crap. Alright. I'll make it away so that it can be added on later. But for not I can work on the main things to get this done. Which is submitting roms, and displaying them in a nice GUI interface.
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Are you going to add the possibilty to rate roms?
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Well I suggested that in my first post. I don't know how helpful it would get if i'm going to add comments. Hmm... Find me some nice.Stars... No wait! Omega symbols...yeah. That's grand.
On the developments on the actual software, I'm going to have to recode everything. Not really everything. But the category system, and the submission system. I'll replace the first post with the New pictures of the new systems As they are finished.
I have decided to put the categorization of SPL and Radios within the roms content field. So where all the checkmarks are, will have SPL and Radio somewhere there displaying what type of radio and spl is needed or...perhaps. Recommended.
EDIT* Okay, everything is just about done. All that is left is the Uploading system which uploads files to a fast download server. Release is closer, then people will be able to populate this. I updated the Original Post with new images of what it looks like After adding the SPL and Radio. And I AM aware that the submitting a rom window is VERY VERY ugly looking. It's not meant for the public to feast their eyes. Just for submitters to get roms submitted.

Well, I have released the first beta of this program. Please be gentle. Check the original post for download details. It's fairly small for an app that does so much. Have fun, for now... Infact, I have programmed the Android RΩM Database for Three different Operating systems....oh yeah.
hmm, as for the those submitters. Your IP's have been added and are now able to submit ROMS. Please be advised that you should start the upload of a ROM before entering any information. Uploading uses a custom encrypted FTP Protocol that might be slightly slower then your regular ftp uploading speed. But, the servers are as speedy as foggy light :/
Anyways, patience helps when uploading. I hope you guys can populate this program to help everyone.

Downloaded and ran it a bit.
Quite a nice app i must say, but i've found a bug. I've entered cursorsense rom just to see how it works, went back, selected 32a again and entered another rom. Now at this point the rom selection buttons didnt disappear but they stayed on the screen even after pressing back. So it was like i was able to select htc magic and amon ra 1.6.3 donut (as if it were a phone).
Thanks for all your hard work
P.S the white letters on orange background are not really clear

[ONLINEKITCHEN] CyanogenMod (STABLE) [UPDATED 30/03 - v4.2.15.1]

By request (and since my other half runs a HTC Magic, hehe), following on from my Hero, Pulse and Nexus One kitchens and most importantly with the permission of the legend himself that is cyanogen, i'm pleased to present a 'MoDaCo online kitchen' version of Cyanogen's v4.2.15.1 ROM.
Note: As with all of the kitchens, this online kitchen is currently only available to my MoDaCo premium members (those who have signed up to MoDaCo Ad Free or MoDaCo Plus) as it is not yet running on an infrastructure that can support a huge number of users. I don't collect donations - signing up for a MoDaCo premium membership supports future development in many areas and gives you access to great services now and exciting developments in the future!
This is the first CyanogenMod kitchen - if there's something else you'd like configurable in the kitchen, post here or in the kitchen topic and due to the nature of the system, changes can be deployed very rapidly! Of course, let me know if there are any issues too, this is v1 after all.
Click here to view the Online Kitchen at MoDaCo.
Update: a prebaked ROM for Dream / 32B Sapphire and one for 32A Sapphire are now available for ANYONE to download! Sample the kitchen's delights for yourself!
Base configuration (standard CyanogenMod with HTC IME) - download MD5: f1e923f8992911e0c5e8fcaae64ff069
Base configuration (standard CyanogenMod with HTC IME) for 32A devices- download MD5: c65de4774d9b4b704d928cf7f189927d
Enjoy!
P
Update: the online kitchen is now running on new dedicated hardware. Please bear with us as we tune performance and configuration and report any issues via PM!
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So kitchen is basically creating an update.zip with custom system apps?
Sounds interesting

Yeah, exactly...
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By request, added bcrook's EBI1/32A patch as an option - please provide feedback!
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very nice

Looks pretty cool =)

this is pretty cool.

Noobs PayUp

While I appreciate the effort - you basically used Cyanogens ROM to make a kitchen so you can profit off it. This is all just a way to sell your subscriptions.
I like a lot of the stuff you do, but this is kind of not cool.

vr24 said:
While I appreciate the effort - you basically used Cyanogens ROM to make a kitchen so you can profit off it. This is all just a way to sell your subscriptions.
I like a lot of the stuff you do, but this is kind of not cool.
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Hence my comment above u ....
Its essentially for the newbies who keep creating threads on how to add this and that.

Daneshm90 said:
Hence my comment above u ....
Its essentially for the newbies who keep creating threads on how to add this and that.
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Why not make it FREE?
BTW, you cant add this or that... just remove apps that you don't want.

Double Post.

It appared at the horizon at last !
I always thinking something like this, but the first architecture I imaged is something like YUM.

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Why not make it FREE?
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Because this requires special infrastructure on the host to glue the pieces together and sign the package, requiring nontrivial amounts of processor time, then must serve the custom file, requiring nontrivial disk space. Neither of those is FREE.
Though a potentially useful variant would be to cache every ROM it produces for up to, say, 48 hours, with the countdown reset each time that configuration is requested (and served immediately from the cache). Classic time/space tradeoff, there, but if certain configurations are popular, probably worth it. Though, for all I know, Paul does this.
This is quite cool and similar to something a couple of us proposed on the TheOfficial AOSP/ADP/TMO thread. We ended up with theme profiles, which are heavier (larger download) but don't require the infrastructure. Always love to see alternate solutions, though!

I think you guys are misunderstanding..
modaco is not charging for CM Roms, he is charging for a service he provides. In this case, it is making it easy for people to 1) stop clogging this forum with repeat posts.. over... and over......... and over again, and 2) customize their ROMS to their liking without having to invest a lot of time figuring out how to themselves.
By saying he should be giving this away for free, you are essentially saying that someone like Red Hat should GIVE it's support away for free. I mean, how can a company make a profit off of open source software that other people have helped write??!?!?
This is no different. That is how companies like Red Hat make their money, it's their bread and butter. Not to mention, they provide Certification avenues, this is just one other way they are "making money off other peoples hard work", according to the outraged ones in this thread.
i personally think this is pretty neat, considering I have been through the learning curve of rooting my phone and trying to customize a ROM; It worked but it took me a bit before I got it right and actually was able to use my update.zip. Thanks Modaco

Listen, I'm saying anything about what he has done or how much time was put into the project.
But before I start my argument let's give it a couple days to see how it does; assuming the stats are correct on his site.

If you don't wanna use it, don't.
All the kitchens to date have been for my ROMs, I put Cynoagen's ROM into a kitchen - with his permission - because a) people asked and b) I find it useful.
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mckoy1 said:
Why not make it FREE?
BTW, you cant add this or that... just remove apps that you don't want.
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'add' functionality is coming...
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olearyp said:
Because this requires special infrastructure on the host to glue the pieces together and sign the package, requiring nontrivial amounts of processor time, then must serve the custom file, requiring nontrivial disk space. Neither of those is FREE.
Though a potentially useful variant would be to cache every ROM it produces for up to, say, 48 hours, with the countdown reset each time that configuration is requested (and served immediately from the cache). Classic time/space tradeoff, there, but if certain configurations are popular, probably worth it. Though, for all I know, Paul does this.
This is quite cool and similar to something a couple of us proposed on the TheOfficial AOSP/ADP/TMO thread. We ended up with theme profiles, which are heavier (larger download) but don't require the infrastructure. Always love to see alternate solutions, though!
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Yeah, i'm caching each ROM produced, but the number of variants is HUGE and takes a LOT of disk space, so caching isn't actually as valuable as you think. With my Hero ROM IIRC I generated about 500 ROMs before I started to see any real benefit from caching. Crazy!
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modaco said:
If you don't wanna use it, don't.
All the kitchens to date have been for my ROMs, I put Cynoagen's ROM into a kitchen - with his permission - because a) people asked and b) I find it useful.
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Ok... So I have chosen not to use it.
modaco said:
'add' functionality is coming...
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Now, this is something I might be interested in, depending of course on the type of functionality it will have.
By the way, I don't want to rain on your parade but I just think your current version of the project should be free; that's all.
I remember someone in the the XDA WM forums created a kitchen for roms and cabs and it was pretty cool.
I like your project but will it only work for a specific Cyan rom?

[Contest][Developers Only]Free Fascinate to the best development idea.

I received this Samsung Fascinate from RootzWiki.com at the Big Android BBQ. I don't need it.
This device has UnBrickable Mod applied to it. It can handle any firmware which you apply to the device. It cannot be bricked under any circumstances. You can always resurrect it with software. The device has a cracked screen, it is an asthetic problem only. The device is fully operational and ready to be used as a development device for any purpose.
Here is a link to the device http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SCH-I500RKAVZW
So, here's the contest rules:
1. Simply post up what you would do with this device and if you have the best project, you get the device.
2. There are no other rules. Just state what you would develop on this device and it could be yours.
This contest will end on 31 October 2011.
I've received PMs about the judging. Here's how it will work: I will narrow it down to a few projects, and then I will ask XDA Recognized Developers in our chat room to pick from the final few. I just want this device to go to someone who will develop something useful for the community.

Further the Glitch kernel on that device by:
Eliminating bluetooth echo
Work on keyboard pop-up in low signal areas
Further improve in-call audio tweaks that we have already starte
Further tweak voltages to allow more devices to overclock.
Have it open for whatever wierd stuff people want to try (like booting WP7 or Nexus S Bootloaders)

1.I would test my apps on it, that I have developed.
2. I would also get back into the ROM business and put out the best AOSP ROM I possibly could!
3. I would test anyone's ROMs that need tested (but the dev doesnt have the phone)
4. I would replace the screen
5. Release more themes for Fascinate ROMs

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Only Developers please, any other post will be deleted

I've received a few PMs about how I will pick the winner. Well, I put some thought into it. I'm going to let Developers pick the winner. I will narrow down some of the better projects and then let the XDA-RDs pick the best of the best. This way it's fair and it's not just me saying a single project is the best.

I'd probably build a kernel for it.
I'd love to take on writing a new bootloader, maybe true dual rom support, etc..
But I doubt I truly have the skills needed to pull off such a thing.
=]

This is what i will do, as a dev:
1) Build my own u-boot (and try to make it running)
2) Update the whole kernel source of SGS/Fascinate to the newest 3.1 (still in RC)
3) Build Debian + 3.1 Linux kernel to run natively under our devices (sgs/fascinate)
4) Do some experiments about debugging with Arduino as output processing system
I have just bought a new arduino, so i think is time to start real development!!
Thanks in advance Adam!
Greetings

orb3000 said:
Only Developers please, any other post will be deleted
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When you mean only developers, do you mean only those with "Recognized Developer" in their profile, or anybody who develops?

ikingblack said:
When you mean only developers, do you mean only those with "Recognized Developer" in their profile, or anybody who develops?
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I think means only Recogised Developers...

simone201 said:
I think means only Recogised Developers...
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No. You do not have to be recognized to be a developer. It helps. Its easy to see who's a developer and who isn't. Just look at threads started... If the topics are mainly asking for help on remedial tasks, that's not a developer. If the topics are mainly releases or advanced subjects, that's a developer. I wont exclude people for their membership status. I'm looking at who can use a development device and who's going to actually use it as a development device to help the community.
It was given to me for development... I developed it and made it better with UnBrickable Mod and I added a battery cover. My project is done. I want someone else to use it as a development device. I'm hoping to give someone an opportunity which will benefeit the rest of the SGS community in some way, shape, or form. I wont judge based on anything except the project and likelihood of followthrough. Finally other developers will decide who gets it.
Noobs to XDA can be more skillful then Recognized Developers... I'm not concerned with titles.

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What he said.
ikingblack said:
When you mean only developers, do you mean only those with "Recognized Developer" in their profile, or anybody who develops?
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I think means only Recogised Developers...
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orb3000 said:
What he said.
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Wow! Big Arrow eh?

Why me ? Simple.
1. I would develop the **** out of roms for the Fascinate
2. I am working on a dualboot linux environment and android (let the user choose in the beginning)
3. Rethinking and remaking a recovery (first steps taken)
4. Because I think I can pull all this previous **** off.

alright , hes probably not aware of this , and I will pm him a link , he already owns a fascinate and hes my favorite dev in the SGS community . his XDA name is sbrissen
from TSM , thats who my vote goes for ...

if i got it i would port roms over and get xboardermod up and running and mybe evena aosp hybrid rom i have on g2x, g2, and sensation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1200017
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179748
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158513
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991254

I would work on porting linux kernel 3.0 to it, mainly because the device apparently cannot be bricked and this would greatly benefit the portable open-source community, I would also use it as a testbed for having a tablet without Dalvik VM or the google android OS, which I so dispair at, instead I think I'd use UClibC to port a minimal x-server or if I am feeling adventurous an SVGAlib frontend. I think thats about all I could do with it but I think it's quite impressive for a n00b. Also I suppose I would have to adda blog to my website to update you all on my progress ;~)
Edit: (additional infos)
I do already have an advent vega with vegacomb and have made some trivial apps for that to display my previous web-dev work but I just remembered I am playing with psx4droid and aDosBox source to make it work & more usable on vegacomb, maybe I could also update & test it on this device and release it on here (I will never post anything to the market, sorry I hate google)

AdamOutler said:
No. You do not have to be recognized to be a developer. It helps. Its easy to see who's a developer and who isn't. Just look at threads started... If the topics are mainly asking for help on remedial tasks, that's not a developer. If the topics are mainly releases or advanced subjects, that's a developer. I wont exclude people for their membership status. I'm looking at who can use a development device and who's going to actually use it as a development device to help the community.
It was given to me for development... I developed it and made it better with UnBrickable Mod and I added a battery cover. My project is done. I want someone else to use it as a development device. I'm hoping to give someone an opportunity which will benefeit the rest of the SGS community in some way, shape, or form. I wont judge based on anything except the project and likelihood of followthrough. Finally other developers will decide who gets it.
Noobs to XDA can be more skillful then Recognized Developers... I'm not concerned with titles.
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Do I count if I use the device as my first android based smartphone to take my android development to further levels?

Hey Adam,
If i get the device i will make a SGS II port like on the Samsung Galaxy S I also alot of Fascinate users have PM'ed me to port my rom onto their device. So now its all upto you.
Thanks,
Faryaab

I'm not a "Recognized Developer" on this board, but I do work on embedded systems (arm, powerpc, x86, etc...)
port u-boot to fascinate and enable fastboot. (See: [U-Boot] Fastboot gadget, v2)
investigate ubi/ubifs to replace yaffs2 (faster, and dynamic partitioning) without xsr/fsr/tfsr, you have to use raw mtd. See: Raw Flash vs. FTL)
performance improvements
port to other Galaxy S, S2, and others.
newer recovery supporting all of the previous items.