Hi everybody.
I've 2 TyTNs.
The first has xda-live 0.2
The second has the standard italian rom.
After flashing the first I've lost all my messages (I was trying to restore a backup made with SPB Backup) but it didn't work at all.
Before flashing the second I'd like to backup (on WM5) and restore (on WM6) all data.
For Contacts I use NS Contact Backup (I prefer it to outlook)
For SMS I use SMS Backup but it works for SMS only.
For Outlook Emails I use Activesync.
What can I use to backup MMS on WM5 and restore them on WM6?
(I already tried SMS organizer but it hangs. )
Thanks anyone.
read this ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295178&highlight=restore+MMS
tnx rudegar but I already tried that.
My problem is that I'm trying to backup on WM5 and restore on WM6.
Standard backup programs don't work (even "Sprite Backup" fails restoring MMS both in normal and in "device upgrade" mode)
(the restore goes ok but the "MMS" account disappears)
Maybe there's something to change in the registry?
Any hints on how to fix this?
How do I make the "MMS" account appear again?
TUTORIAL:quick transfer of PIM stuff & msgs to other WM devices w/o Outlook/Exchange
I often receive questions about quickly transferring contacts / calendar items from one Windows Mobile device to another. Because of the frequency of these questions, I deemed it necessary to devote a quick tutorial to the question, temporarily stopping my Next Big Thing: at last, a full review and roundup of ALL Windows Mobile-based database programs.
With devices running operating systems prior to WM5 this (at least as far as transferring contacts is concerned) was pretty easy: you just brought up the built-in keyboard SIP and tapped Ctl, and, then, A, to select all contacts. After this, you could mass-transfer all this via both infrared and Bluetooth to any other device. Alternatively, if you needed to transfer other (for example, Calendar) databases, you just fired up Pocket dbExplorer (my old, often-discussed favorite), backed up the database and just did the opposite (restored) it on the target machine.
Not so with WM5. Here, unless you use a (commercial) PIM extender like Pocket Informant, you can’t mass-select any kind of PIM data for transfer (yes, not even Contacts – Ctl-A doesn’t work any more) and Pocket dbExplorer no longer works either.
If you don’t have a desktop Outlook for quick synchronization of these types (the easiest way to do this is, again, Outlook on the desktop) and you don’t have access to any Exchange server either, you’re shot.
You may ask whether it’s possible to use, for example, Sprite Backup (or, for that matter, any other commercial Windows Mobile full(!) backup solution - see the Backup Bible for more info) to separately, selectively backup / restore ONE PIM database only (only all of them). That is, you would need to back up / restore all PIM databases, not only, say, Calendar (or any other database you select for transfer). This has the following major problem: While restoring the Calendar may work, doing the same with Contacts will most probably result in major problems (the built-in Contacts application not starting at all any more, necessitating a hard / clean reset).
I've tested this between the three models (in addition to my previous experience: see my related remarks on the problems with starting Contacts after some kinds of restorations in the Backup Bible):
Source: WM5 AKU 2.2 Dell Axim x51v
Targets: WM5 AKU 3.5 HP iPAQ hx4700 (imported calendar items weren't visible and
Contacts stopped working)
WM6 HTC Universal (imported calendar items became visible and Contacts
stopped working)
Jeyo’s well-known, commercial (!) Mobile Extender is only able to backup / restore / transfer contacts, SMS messages and call history – nothing else.
Fortunately, there IS a solution to this problem: either PIM Backup or SKTools.
Dotfred’s PIM Backup and / or SKTools to the rescue!
SKTools
With the latest, just-released SKTools, you can easily combat this problem. A quick remark: upon publishing the first, now outdated version of this tutorial, when SKTools was still unable to do inter-device model restoration, the excellent S-K folks have quickly fixed this bug. With the latest (internal date: 07/17) version, you can already do inter-model restoration.
Start it and go to the Maintenance category; in there, select Databases.
Now, select Appointments Database (or, if you plan to export contacts / tasks, Contacts Database and Tasks Database, respectively) and select Action / Export Marked:
http://www.winmobiletech.com/072007PIMBackup/SKToolsExport.bmp.png
Now, after the backup has finished, just copy the XML file from \My Documents\db_xml to the target machine. On it, go to Maintenance / Databases and select Action / Import:
http://www.winmobiletech.com/072007PIMBackup/SKToolsImp.bmp.png
and, in the file selector window, just double-click the just-exported file to load:
http://www.winmobiletech.com/072007PIMBackup/SKToolsImp2.bmp.png
If everything goes OK, the result of the import will be a number more than 0 as in THIS screenshot.
PIM Backup
I’ve elaborated several times on Dotfred’s excellent, free and both Pocket PC and MS Smartphone-compatible PIM Backup several times and made sure it got nominated for both the Pocket PC and Smartphone. It is certainly worth giving a try and worth switching to for even scheduled (!) backing up your PIM data and messages, not to mention transferring this data to other Windows Mobile devices.
http://www.winmobiletech.com/072007PIMBackup/PIMBackupMain.bmp.png
(WM6 VGA PPC; WM5 QVGA PPC HERE)
http://www.winmobiletech.com/072007PIMBackup/SPMainTH.bmp.png
(QVGA Smartphone)
http://www.winmobiletech.com/072007PIMBackup/SPMain176TH.bmp.png
(176*220 Smartphone)
Get the program HERE. Just transfer the single EXE file onto your handheld, let it be either a Pocket PC or a Smartphone. You can put in anywhere (I recommend \Program Files\PIM Backup or \Storage Card\Program Files\PIM Backup); of course, you will want to create a link to it from \Windows\Start Menu (on a Smartphone) or \Windows\Start Menu\Programs (on a PPC). Then, just start and enjoy it.
The user interface of the application is REALLY straightforward: if you’ve ever seen a Windows Mobile backup application, you’ll learn it in a second. I still provide you a step-by-step tutorial and, then, also remarks on the compatibility and the main subject of this article: selective restoration and data transfer to other Windows Mobile devices.
PIM Backup step-by-step tutorial
To backup a PIM category (that is, making it ready for future transfer to another WM device), just make sure its checkbox is surely checked in after starting the app (other checkboxes can also be checked in, of course, as separate restoration is possible). In the following screenshot, I show an example of backing up the Appointments database:
http://www.winmobiletech.com/072007PIMBackup/PIMBackupAppDBBackup1.bmp.png
Now, click Next in the lower right corner of the GUI and, in the next window (where you can set the backup parameters: where to store the backup file at: it’s \Storage Card by default; note that if you don’t have a storage card or its path is named differently, you will want to click the Browse button and select another target directory; remember to do this because, if you fail to do it, the current (2.4) version may ot create a file anywhere and just keeps silent about this fact), also the same Next. The backup process will start as can be seen in the following screenshot:
http://www.winmobiletech.com/072007PIMBackup/PIMBackupAppDBBackup3.bmp.png
Now, just exit PIM Backup on the source machine – you won’t need it any more.
Transfer the file (in this example, \Storage Card\PIMBackup_20070717.pib) to the target WM device and just click it (if you’ve at least once run PIM Backup on it so that it can associate backup files with itself for automatic execution). The data type contents (here, Appointments only) of the backup file will be shown:
http://www.winmobiletech.com/072007PIMBackup/PIMBackupRest1.bmp.png
Here, all you need to do is clicking Next in the lower right corner.
On the next screen, you can fine-tune what should happen to the already existing records in your local Appointments database. Make sure you do NOT use the default “Delete all existing appointments from the database before restoration” if you want to add the new records to the existing ones, keeping the latter. That is, select either the second or the third record, depending on whether you’d like to just blindly insert the new records, or update the existing, changed ones.
Other tips
It has excellent separate restoration capabilities: not only can you select what PIM type to restore (see THIS), but also you can select the individual Messaging folders to be restored as can be seen in the following screenshot:
http://www.winmobiletech.com/072007PIMBackup/PIMBackupMessagingFolderList.bmp.png
(A quick note: of them, it’s only SMS messages (MMS messages are still not supported) that will be restored on another device!)
Also, it has EXCELLENT options on setting what to overwrite / delete upon restoring: 1 2 3
Cross-restoration
As has already been pointed out, you will not only want to use the excellent (for example, scheduled) backup features of PIM Backup, but also its cross-device restoration capabilities.
I’ve thoroughly these with all kinds of PIM data and messages between several of my WM5 / WM6 Pocket PC’s and no-touchscreen smartphones. As can clearly be seen, cross-restoration (that is, simple PIM database transfer to another device) works just great. All you need to do is select the only PIM database(s) to transfer for backup, transfer (for example, beam via infrared or Bluetooth or transfer via a memory card) the file to the other one (and, when needed, PIM backup’s EXE itself) and, there, just restore the data. It’s really simple!
The cross-restoration compatibility chart
http://www.winmobiletech.com/072007PIMBackup/table.png
As can be seen, in general, you can safely transfer between any kind of WM5 and WM6 devices, both Smartphones and Pocket PC’s, the results will most likely work. I’ve only encountered real problems with transferring PIM data and messages from my HTC Oxygen / s310 (a WM5 Smartphone) – the Universal (which was able to import the backup files of both the WM5 Dell Axim x51v and the WM6 HTC Vox Smartphone) just couldn’t import it.
Smartphone compliance
The only problem I could find was the inability to see files at the bottom of a directory tree as can be seen in HERE. This means you won’t probably want to put your backup files in, say, the root directory of your Smartphone or will want at least once start the backup app so that it associates itself with .pib files.
Works great even on 176*220 Smartphones; the only problem I could find was the slightly overlapping buttons HERE.
wm2003SE to WM6
Hi,
Thanks for this great article! Very informative. I would like to ask though, is it as simple as you described as well if one wants to transfer contacts from a wm2003SE device to a wm6 device? If not, then what steps can I take to make sure the transfer goes smoothly?
Thanks in advance
What title said...
My girlfriend wants to keep her sms messages.
Where does WM5 storage them?
Does nobody knows this?
Messages are kept in WM6 (and I think WM5) in a file called cemail.vol. Contacts, addresses and calendar are in pim.vol. Normally these are read/copy/write protected by the system, so you won't be able to copy and paste them. Use something like PIM Backup by FdcSoft to backup and restore emails and other info.
Hi,
I would like help in how to transfer my contacts and sms messages from my sony ericsson K310i (Java based) to Samsung I8000 OmniaII (Windows Mobile based).
As for transfering contacts, i tried copying all my contacts to sim in my K310 then copy to phone on the I8000, i get weird entries in the form
LastName;FirstName/M (M: for mobile, W for work)
and it recognizes all that as a single name, i.e. if i want to edit the contact, LastName;FirstName/M will all be in the First Name field.
I think there might be a solution using K310 and a PC but i don't have a data cable and it's hard to get one currently.
Any help would be appreciated.
transfer contacts to Omnia II
if you can save your K310i contacts to a .vcf (vcard ) file then there's a windows mobile utility "vcard expert" available from the microsoft & samsung app stores that will transfer your contacts onto your Omnia II with correct formatting.
You could send this vcf file as an attachment in email to yourself then save the attachment to your device and load into the app. So you wouldn't need any data cables to do the transfer.
Thank you for your reply, it helped even if not directly. i forgot to say that i'm missing the K310i data cable not the OmniaII one (so its impossible to export contacts from K310i as the only option available is via infrared), but your info regarding .vcf files gave a new terms to my google searches.
I found an old infrared adapter. I tried first the option to export via infrared from the K310i and got a .vcf file, which when imported in outlook gave me just the first contact (although i opened in a notepad and saw all contacts there), any solutions there?
I then managed to use "My Phone Explorer" to sync contacts with outlook, then sync OmniaII with new contacts.
Now the only thing remaining is that i need to transfer my messages to the phone. My phone explorer can export messages in .sms/.csv/.txt file formats. I tried imobiletool sms backup to restore a .sms/.csv files but without luck (the WM program will not even see the file. and the pc program will give "file validation error" when tried to import). Any insight as how to import .sms messages?
Edit: I found a program that can split the single vcf file into multiple files each one for a contact, callud suppcom vcard splitter. still outlook has no right to refuse the single vcf file!
Edit: Its damn annoying that all the SMS backup/restore programs i found only restore backups created by the same program...sigh, is there no standards or compatibilty between programs??
Anyone have a solution to transfer sms to windows mobile phone, please?
Hy, I'm new of the forum. I ask sorry from the beginning for my bad english
I want know if ther are a program who can save all my messages (SMS and MMS) in a file of excel or word,like pc suite for nokia.I try with PIM backup but it save the messages in a file for him.
My phone it's a site,and I don't like have my messages on a site
SPB Backup program saves all of your phone information to there pc program. Then you can later see your texts through that program. I am not sure if it outputs to csv file though
how can I read csv files?
The reason I said CSV was because excell can read and open that file format
Jeyo Mobile Companion 2.1
It can backup sms to .xml format