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Has anyone tried it yet?
http://labs.live.com/Deepfish/whatis.aspx
I saw this posted elsewhere and tried to sign up, but they have already stopped new applications
Would love to try it on my Wizard though. Opera is fine for me on the Universal, but anything less than VGA would benefit from something like this.
Deepfish
Well here is the .cab install file but it needs an activation ID.
Can anyone help?
found it
5202744683210565
Griffy wiffy said:
Well here is the .cab install file but it needs an activation ID.
Can anyone help?
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Try
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1134600
Just signed up. Hope they create some more free spots for testers.
No Zoom???
Has anyone used this yet?
I can't find how you zoom???
With the D-Pad and centre button.
And thanks for posting
DOH
Thanks !
should have tried the buttons first
Griffy wiffy said:
Well here is the .cab install file but it needs an activation ID.
Can anyone help?
found it
5202744683210565
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My activation ID is different so I wonder if they're tracking these?
Oh, and doesn't posting this break the rules????
@Griffy wiffy Thanks for posting the cab-file and the code
So far Deepfish works smnooth and offers a nice idea on browsing the internet on a ppc but in its early development stage it's not useful for daily purpose, but shouldn't take long until we have a good alternative for surfing the web
I guess that the posted cab is for pocket PC? Any chance anyone is willing to post the smartphone version?
"As a technology preview, Deepfish is early in its development cycle (still a few releases from beta quality). As a result some features are not implemented or are only partially implemented. Currently, the technology preview does not support ActiveX controls, AJAX, cookies, Javascript, and HTTP POST."
PUKE... I don't get how its worth browsing with???? no cookies??? no java??? I think i'll wait till final release
this is very nice idea, it is useful right now, it looks a lot like I already saw on some Nokia phones, E series. I'm wandering why is not freely available for download, is money the only thing that drives M$ !?
Does anyone know if this works on WM6. I've tried installing this and it says its successful but there is no new program installed nor any shortcut icons>
Any ideas
seem the activation code was blocked
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seem the activation code was blocked
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Yeah, I confirm that.. Let's wait for our invites patiently
Also see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1195885
dm251z said:
I guess that the posted cab is for pocket PC? Any chance anyone is willing to post the smartphone version?
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Here is the DeepFish for SmartPhone Version
Guess it doesn't work for WM2003SE?
timekeeper said:
Guess it doesn't work for WM2003SE?
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It won't and I don't think WM2003(SE) support will ever be released. The platform is being ntirely phased out; for exmaple, NetFront 3.4 and Minimo 0.2 don't support it either.
I found a cooked wm5 rom with a iphone look!!!!
It's WWE (us english actualy) and it's full of tweaks and add-ons! check it out
check this site for screenshots http://www.cnsmartphone.com/29170/viewspace_2061.html
My first findings:
AKU 3.0
.netCF 2.0 in rom
Wm5torage
Great camera software
strange but can't find pocket msn or msn messenger anywhere....
new icons
nice apple logo instead of the windows logo.
great homescreen (very iphone)
celetask included (just press home key during 2 seconds but it's in chinese)
A very nice clock near the batery indicator.
Quite fast and stable.
i'll post more later for now it's time to reisntall my apps and games.
PS: please someone find us a way to have T9 in this rom...
here is babelfish.altavista.com translation:
---- Is suitable the type based on Singapore 2.0.11.0 edition: HTC the Tornado type (586W broadcast plug-in unit has not installed) ---- the partial systems document to take from HTC S620 (Aku3.0), the document edition has the promotion ---- ROM document is OS are partial, nbf document format ---- typeface: Song typeface ---- language: English ---- input method: A4 ---- Promotes the version ---- to join the short note service the WMP player to 10.3.15097 edition ---- promotion communications manager to 1.2.0.0 edition ---- promotion photographs software to 4.00 (Build23355), Push the Mail switch ---- joins the automatic time zone/time function (to have to coordinate corresponding GSM) ---- ---- to initialize China the promotion color letter procedure to 3.1.2.12 edition to move CMWAP to turn on network establishment ---- IA File Manager resource management ---- WM5torage 1.7 to sinicize the version ---- CeleTask 2.2 task managements and to integrate the Long_Home pressed key ---- to join the A2DP blue tooth stereo sound, the revision high-frequency unit flaw, Removes noise ---- multi- Pu to reach the SIM card manager ---- contact person to tabulate the chart sign ---- condition fence time........... Deletion: ---- Pocket MSN ---- Java MIDlet the Manager ---- system brings the chromosphere game ---- to like in the frame pattern plate, the camera tacitly approves the picture, the sound and the video recording
I'm already using it.
The cons: has no t9, but a chinese input method.
Post your findings please!!!!
Download it here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KB511Z85 or try here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HA3DKV61
happy upgrading for you guys, have a nice weekend i'll be back on monday to see your comments!!!
What font is being used? is it the typical Chinese ac3 font or Segoe?
I'm afraid i don't understand your question beacause i don't know the fonts you are talking about. please explain!
Guys this really works,
Just installed it on my SP5 over an SP5m firmware. Its very quick to install too. it took 3 minutes to install.
I will advise if it worths.
any news on this?
This is the fastest rom I used on tornado without overclocking. Quicker boot, quicker logoff and menu control. It is very pretty looking like Iphone.
The only negative is that the default input language is chinese, so you have to press * a lot to write. Everything else is in english.
If you are a tech freak use it.
Cheers
I am confused about the language options. If you goto Settings you should be able to select Locale and change it to US and English right? If not then change the registry to delete every other language besides English. I have don that in the past and worked great. However, I am not willing to risk downloading this ROM if the language isn't right. Any other bugs with this ROM??
dwest218 said:
I am confused about the language options. If you goto Settings you should be able to select Locale and change it to US and English right? If not then change the registry to delete every other language besides English. I have don that in the past and worked great. However, I am not willing to risk downloading this ROM if the language isn't right. Any other bugs with this ROM??
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I agree. also, it would be very annoying to keep on pressing "*" everytime you want to input text
a tutorial on how to make custom roms would be very helpfull.
madds said:
I'm afraid i don't understand your question beacause i don't know the fonts you are talking about. please explain!
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Saw the link that you gave, it uses the usual chinese font, they are a lot thinner than the usual WM5 font which is called Segoe..
Not a big deal since we can change fonts easily thru Registry
thanks for the info by the way
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Saw the link that you gave, it uses the usual chinese font, they are a lot thinner than the usual WM5 font which is called Segoe..
Not a big deal since we can change fonts easily thru Registry
thanks for the info by the way
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were you able to try the rom? is it worth it?
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greatbal said:
were you able to try the rom? is it worth it?
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Haven't tried it pare, wala na ako Tornado Try mo pre
Would appreciate if someone could post the free storage space and RAM left right after loading the ROM..
Thanks
anybody going to strip this down?!
would be great to get an aku3.x rom update for the tornado!
this one looks great. wm6 would be better though.
Wow, decided to quickly throw this on right before I took off to work this morning.
The very first think I noticed was the fix for my Motorola ht820 A2DP headphones! No more will I have to deal with the high pitched distortion/noise!
I'm assuming this was either just a partial flash, or it was built upon an imate rom because I still have my imate splash screen at the beginning.
I'm at work now, and I really should be working, so I wont have a chance to install any programs or tweak with the homescreen at all . . .
The iphone stuff is well done, but I couldnt care less about having a minimal looking screen, I'll go back to my previous settings . .
Also, hopefully I can search around here enough to find out how to get my t9 back. . . . not the end of the world but would be nice.
Would also be nice to get the midlet manager back.
OS 5.1.195 (Build 14847.2.0.0)
Radio version 4.0.13.25_01.14.00
RIL 2.002
Available Storage 18.35
Total Storage 20.94
Available Memory 26.64
Total Memory 45.05
ROM update versions (blank)
Operator 5.1.195.14847
Sys info
ROM version 2.0.11.0
OPERATOR version 2.5.39.2
Will this work to change the T9 language problem.
http://surrealnetworks.com/mpx/t9_languages.htm
dwest218 said:
Will this work to change the T9 language problem.
http://surrealnetworks.com/mpx/t9_languages.htm
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Hi, i've already tried that solution but it doesn't work.
it's a diferent input software they used in this rom, it lacks suport for t9.
Can someone who knows how to speak chinese try to contact the maker of this rom (it's the guy in the link with screenshots i believe) and ask him for suport on how to make a xd-devs rom???
that would be fantastic.
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Guys it's just me or it is a fact that the progress of windows mobile is really slow?
I mean there are several versions of windows mobile, 6.0 got our before 5.0 was even running well enough (not to mention several bugs in 5.0 that were barely fixed) and I wonder: wouldn't it be better to stick to an OS version for a longer period of time and make it run really good?
I won't go into a debate mac vs pc or anything of this kind, but isn't the standard windows mobile interface a bit boring? I like the iPhone for the innovative interface and design only, or another model I've seen m8 from meizu.
Something should change, not just a fancy gradient in the titlebar and the menubar!!!!!
I have a problem with the keyboards too. The MS sip is the same since 2002 pocket pcs!!! And that is really a lot of time of using the same cra.ppy system, and forgive me for overreacting but I think entering texts is a main concern, we all use these devices mainly as communicators or for various information storage that needs to be edited, moved from a location to another an all these actions require user input...
I know there are lots of experienced users on this forum, so this is a call to all of them , I need their suggestions in what would be the best choice for a text-input software for Pocket PCs?
I was using the SPB keyboard for about 2 years now I really like it, it's just that it covers all my text (yeah, I know it's fulscreen ), and I would like to try some similar variants: concern #1 : it must have big keys or it's useless to me.
Thanks for your time, everyone!
I'm using ZTA4 SIP, it's mainly for Chinese input but also can be used for English typing.
Cheers,
Vibranze
thanks, any link for that?
xda-addict said:
Guys it's just me or it is a fact that the progress of windows mobile is really slow?
I mean there are several versions of windows mobile, 6.0 got our before 5.0 was even running well enough (not to mention several bugs in 5.0 that were barely fixed) and I wonder: wouldn't it be better to stick to an OS version for a longer period of time and make it run really good?
I won't go into a debate mac vs pc or anything of this kind, but isn't the standard windows mobile interface a bit boring? I like the iPhone for the innovative interface and design only, or another model I've seen m8 from meizu.
Something should change, not just a fancy gradient in the titlebar and the menubar!!!!!
I have a problem with the keyboards too. The MS sip is the same since 2002 pocket pcs!!! And that is really a lot of time of using the same cra.ppy system, and forgive me for overreacting but I think entering texts is a main concern, we all use these devices mainly as communicators or for various information storage that needs to be edited, moved from a location to another an all these actions require user input...
I know there are lots of experienced users on this forum, so this is a call to all of them , I need their suggestions in what would be the best choice for a text-input software for Pocket PCs?
I was using the SPB keyboard for about 2 years now I really like it, it's just that it covers all my text (yeah, I know it's fulscreen ), and I would like to try some similar variants: concern #1 : it must have big keys or it's useless to me.
Thanks for your time, everyone!
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Try the skinnable Resco keyboard, several options available. See screenshot and download link below.
xda-addict said:
thanks, any link for that?
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I attached here, try it yourself
Instead of choosing the unknown chinese character, you can choose Abc so you will be able to type in English.
Cheers,
Vibranze
hotdog53 said:
Try the skinnable Resco keyboard, several options available. See screenshot and download link below.
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Something happened to screen shot. Here's another one.
hotdog53 said:
Something happened to screen shot. Here's another one.
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Thanks for the post!
Unfortunatelly Resco has too small keys, almost like the default SIP, I can't use it
vibranze I'm gonna try it asap!
vibranze said:
I attached here, try it yourself
Instead of choosing the unknown chinese character, you can choose Abc so you will be able to type in English.
Cheers,
Vibranze
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Vibranze thanks for the efforts but the ZTA4 SIP DOESN'T WORK ON MY DEVICE.
I have attached a screenshot, it loads, but it is unusable. Still it seems to have pretty small keys, but I'm not sure as it doesn't load properly, what could I do?
wow Guys, check this out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=322441
now this is a keyboard!
xda-addict said:
Vibranze thanks for the efforts but the ZTA4 SIP DOESN'T WORK ON MY DEVICE.
I have attached a screenshot, it loads, but it is unusable. Still it seems to have pretty small keys, but I'm not sure as it doesn't load properly, what could I do?
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Hi,
Attached is the screenshot taken from my device. Altough it's a bit small but if you use stylus it's far far better than the normal keyboard, and some more it's also support keypad typing
Cheers,
Vibranze
andot,
first of all, you've done a great job on the updated WM6 ROMs. but as of now, those who use english interface and need to read and compose chinese occasionally have dilema on which ROM to choose. the only available one is WWE you released some time ago but it is quite outdated and buggy.
we are requesting for you to release an updated version on WWE where users can have the best of both worlds (English interface + chinese language support like those found in original dopod 577w) including bug fixes such as camera, GPRS issues, Wifi, comm manager, etc. i like the fact that much of the UI is untouched with no fancy clocks or bars in the old WWE build.
once again, THANK YOU very much for your hard work!
Nop, it is not the best of both world, it is the best for your world only. Most of us here do not require Chinese file, what we want is to make the ROM as CLEAN as possible, if you want chinese, you can always install the langpacks and fontpack, if you do some research, you can get it.
Or, safe the hassle, pay for CE-star
what can i say?different people have different needs. one man's meat is another man's poison. you cant expect everyone to think like you.
besides, andot's tornado WWE ROM has ~ 18MB ROM on fresh format, that's a lot of space increase compared to original WM5 ROM.
installing aditional language pack is a hassle and increased space usage a lot more than when embedded in ROM. i've tried PEE before, also has about 18MB ROM left. installed chinese language alone would take ~5MB, not to mention it doesn't work prefectly.
If andot decides to update the Tornado WWE WM6, there are people, especially asians will use it. other "so called senior member" who cant think in other people's shoes might not appreciate it, but i'll very much thank you for it.
Install Ce-star as I've said somewhere to some guy. It takes about 5MB space. I think you can install the trial version and use it without problem as they only charge you for the input not for the Chinese support. If you want Chinese input you can always install Plum SIP. It is totally free and much better than the Ce-star Chinese input.
Whether the langpack is embeded in the ROM or not does not make any difference, when cooking a ROM, the files are added, and registry are modified before flashing. If you install the langpack after flashing, you add the files, you modify the registry
And there is no need for your sarcastic comment.
FYI, I did PM melgurth a few times and discussed with him on how I can port the chinese T9 and language pack form Dopod AKU2 ROM.
If only I have the time, I will try to cook a ROM for chinese users, just that my exam is approaching and it is not wise to spend so much time for it now.
I think I offended you in my earlier post, my apology for that
please accept my apology too. but i must stand firm on my side that there are people who need both languages in one device, at least im one of them. im not trying to cause any trouble here.. just hoping andot will fulfill our needs if he has the time to spare.. or maybe you can do it, since (correct me if im wrong) you need it too..
Coolcode.cn has best WM6.0 English and Chinese version.
it is great!
I tried to import the T9 chinese files from AKU2 to my phone yesterday, so far I managed to get T9 pinyin, but it only shows boxes, I think I need to modify the font
Ok, I managed to port the T9 pinyin and T9 stroke file over to WM6, however I only can view them as blocks which mean I have some problem with the fonts, I duno why I just cant view Chinese character despite trying so many fonts.
Anyone have suggestion ?
try asking andot for help? i fully support your effort (or andot if he has time to build updated WWE with bug fix)!
karhoe said:
Ok, I managed to port the T9 pinyin and T9 stroke file over to WM6, however I only can view them as blocks which mean I have some problem with the fonts, I duno why I just cant view Chinese character despite trying so many fonts.
Anyone have suggestion ?
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u really missed something, u only have the input method doesnt means u can view chinese word, however it might fix with a font cab, u can download it over HERE . Please notice that after u install this cab your english characters will become so small, i know it can fix using registry threat but i dunno how to fix it, good luck!
Yea, I know, that is why I said I have problem installing the font. No matter what font I used, I still get blocks.
We can actually just add the font file but don't set it as system font, so the characters wont be small, im trying to do that, gonna hard reset first
karhoe said:
Yea, I know, that is why I said I have problem installing the font. No matter what font I used, I still get blocks.
We can actually just add the font file but don't set it as system font, so the characters wont be small, im trying to do that, gonna hard reset first
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Do U mean u need an English interface but still can read chinese? I hope i dint misunderstand...... what i did was, i install the chinese font cab 1st, after reboot will become chinese interface, then go to setting>regional settings> Set Locale to English(US) then reboot, will become english interface with chinese support, but font remain so small lol...hope it helps.
Can you post the cab file here? Cause I am pretty finished, except for installing the font, I tried to install the font by copy the neccesaries file and create new registry keys by referring to the regisry on AKU2 ROM
What I did was this
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\FontPath]
"FontPath"="\windows\Fonts"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\FontLink\SystemLink]
"Courier New"="\windows\Fonts\sunfon.ac3,SC_Song"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\FontLink\SystemLink]
"Nina"="\windows\Fonts\sunfon.ac3,SC_Song"
I hope I can solve this problem if you can pass me the cab file
Yes, I need an English interface but can compose and read chinese SMS
karhoe said:
Can you post the cab file here? Cause I am pretty finished, except for installing the font, I tried to install the font by copy the neccesaries file and create new registry keys by referring to the regisry on AKU2 ROM
What I did was this
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\FontPath]
"FontPath"="\windows\Fonts"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\FontLink\SystemLink]
"Courier New"="\windows\Fonts\sunfon.ac3,SC_Song"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\FontLink\SystemLink]
"Nina"="\windows\Fonts\sunfon.ac3,SC_Song"
I hope I can solve this problem if you can pass me the cab file
Yes, I need an English interface but can compose and read chinese SMS
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I already post it on my #11 reply, it was http://rapidshare.com/files/53340896/Chinese-WM6_Sung.zip.html
I DID IT !!!, it worked !
But i'm going to say, this is the most ridiculous registry system ever, ill try to make a cab now including the font file
System font looks perfect !
Now there is only one minor bug (fixed)
I also realized a simple typo in the ROM, I fixed it, and now it unlocks the option to change between languages ( dont see any use of it )
karhoe said:
I DID IT !!!, it worked !
But i'm going to say, this is the most ridiculous registry system ever, ill try to make a cab now including the font file
System font looks perfect !
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Lol, congratulations man
ITS ALL FIXED, everything is fixed,
Now, T9 Pinyin = pinyin
T9 Stroke = stroke
Now, I just want to package it into cab file
Btw, do you guys think Sunglobe.ttf ( true type font ) or sunfon.ac3 ( compressed font format ) looks better? Difference is only few kb
Hmm, I actually spent 1 whole day to do this thing, and I screwed my OS in the process, thank god its perfected now
Alright, done, please try and give me your feedback
http://rapidshare.com/files/53386427/T9_Chinese_by_karhoe.cab
Remmember to reboot your phone
If this works well, I will cook it into Phil's BETA II together with Chinese localization files
Cab includes font file, sunglobe.tff, this one takes 3MB, the 2nd smallest size I had, the other one is sunfon.ac3 ( compressed font ), found in Dopod AKU2 ROM, but difference is only a few KBs
Good work there Karhoe! i don't have my phone with me now so i cant be sure if it works, but im pretty sure from the screenshots it does work.
I`m looking for someone who can` make me a custom ROM...or someone who want`s to make a ROM and needs some ideeas...
Lol, and why should someone accustom a ROM to your perference? If you want to pay them, then you can consider Nitro
Sorry, mate. My ROM cooking is for free. And I'm full of ideas!
it is not neccesary to accustom a ROM to my prefferences but i have some nice ideeas for anyone who wants to **** a new ROM...
Profy_X said:
it is not neccesary to accustom a ROM to my prefferences but i have some nice ideeas for anyone who wants to **** a new ROM...
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Put your ideas here so everyone can discuss and decide on the pros and cons.
thanks
And why don't you just post your ideas???
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And why don't you just post your ideas???
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@NiTro
Same thoughts.... (look at the time of our post )
@illi
Well, every member of this forum would have made this thought!!!
My ideea is to **** a ROM based on the vanilla version wich is a very good version with no unecessary stuff,but the version of the wm6 english 5.2.116.18120 STANDARD v3.2 has more options wich is a very good thing from my opininion a good ROM sould have as much options as possible,and to be more stabile than the rest and with more free memory…My ideeas aren`t very shiney but I hope you will like it.
From the way I thing a ROM sould have/be:
• Fully application unlocked
• With htc camera 4 wich is a very good version of camera with allot of option and a great quality or the latest version of cool camera wich is allso very good
• We should select from all the cocked ROM`s the Media Player who can support many format`s of music like .mp3,.mp4,.wmv,.aac,.wma,mpeg,mpeg 4,.3gp,.avi and many others..(with the wmp 11 interface)
• The File manager maybe somone can **** to extract the .zip,.rar archives and stuff like that
• Automatic date/time adjustment with the latest gsm update included
• The latest version of htc SIM manager,wm5 storage,low light
• English xT9 included
• In the SMS recived if someone can make to view the smiles (the most used onley)
• Office 2007 just like in the original one
• Iconor list view but put it somehow in the display option
• The latest version of SmartExplorer
• In the album viewer at Pictures &Videos if someone could make it just like in the wm3 from the Spv c500 to give super extra large zoom at the pictures & to preview more medias
• In the games if could be include the Celeris virtual pool 2007 and the solitaire without bubble breaker
• Voice command
• The latest ADP
• To run more faster reboot,on/off (startup)
• Latest AKU drivers
• Basehue Express
• Make more options but make it to be easey to use not like in the version wm6 english 5.2.116.18120 STANDARD v3.2 the options are good but some of them are very hard to use,the options are good and usefully but are very complex and not all of the wm6 ROM`s or smartphone user know how to use,what I mean is that the options are very hard to change make it more easely to use because some of the users are afraied to use them just because are very complex and none of them whant`s to turn his software upside down…
• Rezolv the connection problems from bluethoot work because in all of the ROM`s that I tried the BT doesn`t work properley/corect
• Make MMS and SMS work faster and good because allmost 50% from the ROM`s realesed have problems or works slow…
This are my ideeas…aren`t very shiney but hope to be usefully….
Most of the not-already-implemented ideas are not for a recooked WM6 version, but for a new WM7 version. Please submit those to Microsoft!
Please, dude, make some reasonable requests. We do not have the source code of WM6!!!!
i don`t know if it real is for a new wm7 but we can try to do something i can help ...we can make the best ROM i realy do not know how to make a ROM but it can`t be to hard to make this ROM possible ..
so if someone can do this i`d be gladley to help ...it is`n so hard to do let`s just think,we can change the WM6 English 5.2.116.18120 Standard v3.2 and just remove and add
no one intrested in improving this ROM?
Noone but you!!!
(This guy has to be kidding, but I lost my sense of humor - sorry!)
NiTroGenious said:
Most of the not-already-implemented ideas are not for a recooked WM6 version, but for a new WM7 version. Please submit those to Microsoft!
Please, dude, make some reasonable requests. We do not have the source code of WM6!!!!
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Come on Nitro.. You can let a guy dream, can't you?
What I'm really looking forward to is your new ROM.
I had found out
Guys i`d just search somethig to try to start my own ROM and i found that the sorce code can be found ,i just read this and realised that i allready have the sdk so if you would help me to make this ROM i can help with the information "The Windows Mobile Software Developer's Kit (SDK) ships with over a hundred code samples. These are working applications that can help you learn to develop software for the Windows Mobile platform.
The code samples are installed when you install the Windows Mobile 6 Professional SDK and the Windows Mobile 6 Standard SDK . Each SDK ships with code samples that are common to both platforms, as well as samples that are specific to each platform" i don`t whant to upset you or something but i`d be gladlley if someone will offer