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I had a friend root my phone and I know if I want to flash a new build I rename the file update and drag it to my android folder then restart the phone a certain way and press alt s to load the build.
I love my g1 and the 1.5 build Im using but I cant get any further because Ive scoured the internet and these threads and I just cant figure out what all of this computer jargon means and I dont understand how anybody does know without taking classes in it.
I think I should make a nandroid backup and partition my sd card to run apps but good lord what does this mean (regarding nandroid)???---
"anyone who has root on their G1 and has the engineering/dev spl bootloader [1] (or has a dev phone) + a recovery image with busybox and adbd running as root [2"
and this (regarding sd partition)???---
pre-requisite "You created the FAT32 / EXT2 combo partitions" I mean this is a PRE-REQUISITE! I found a thread regarding the fat/ext deal and didnt understand it either.
I know nobody is here to babysit but is there some website somebody can direct me to to begin understanding what Im reading, I mean I read through the sd partition for dummies thread and I literally understood MAYBE 10% of the words, if thats for "dummies" im clearly the "dumbest"
I have the will I just dont have the way, ive typed the language i dont understand into every search engine I know of and Ive learned nothing. You guys are born geniuses
and what the hell's a "script"
No offense intended, but I don't think you should root your phone or carry out any of the procedures outlined in the developer forum. Following instructions to the letter is important when you are performing unauthorized and unsupported hacks, and most of those instructions assume an intermediate-to-advanced level of computing understanding.
As far as "where you learn it", I assume it varies from person to person. Although in nearly all cases, you learn it slowly by absorption when you are immersed in computing culture. Eventually if you lurk enough and see a word enough times in a particular context, you gain an understanding of what it means without being explicitly told.
You learn as you read through forums and threads and asking questions. If you're lucky, someone will explain it to you.
A script is like a programming language that controls a software application.
Nandroid is a tool or script you can use to backup your phone. It takes a bit of knowledge to restore from the backup though and requires a separate thread
You can read all about SPL's here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455860
Can't help you with busybox/adb/recovery image right now.
FAT32 and EXT2 are just file type partitions. Think of a hard drive as a box. You put a divider cutting the box down the middle to split it into 2 compartments so each compartment can store something different. That's essentially what you do to a SD card when you create a FAT32 and EXT2 partition.
I learned all this by totally screwing things up, then reading, and reading some more. Then using the search function of the forum and of course more reading.
Now I understand a good deal about ADB, terminal, and the many, many other things that come with a rooted phone,,
I don't agree with the post that said if you don't get it don't try it.....
But that is cause I learn by doing...
As mentioned, doing this is a little complicated. The wrong step can temporarily brick your phone and then you'd have to know how to fix it, which in a way also requires a certain level of knowledge. It's best to learn and absorb the information first and to NOT be in a hurry to implement what you learn.
DMaverick50 said:
I had a friend root my phone and I know if I want to flash a new build I rename the file update and drag it to my android folder then restart the phone a certain way and press alt s to load the build.
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This will be invaluable to fixing a botched up hack. Although, many times you'll also have to wipe (alt-w) to clear out your personal settings and personal data.
DMaverick50 said:
I love my g1 and the 1.5 build Im using but I cant get any further because Ive scoured the internet and these threads and I just cant figure out what all of this computer jargon means and I dont understand how anybody does know without taking classes in it.
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As mentioned, we all just love the stuff, and pick it up as we go. Most of us read extensively and have well set backgrounds on computers. If you want to get your degree in brain surgery, it helps to have basic knowledge of human anatomy, first.
DMaverick50 said:
I think I should make a nandroid backup and partition my sd card to run apps but good lord what does this mean (regarding nandroid)???---
"anyone who has root on their G1 and has the engineering/dev spl bootloader [1] (or has a dev phone) + a recovery image with busybox and adbd running as root [2"
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Nandroid is a backup program build into the... "recovery mode" for lack of a better description. It's where you do the alt-s at. Alt-b creates a backup of your system. To restore it, you must read the thread sticky that walks you through it.
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and this (regarding sd partition)???---
pre-requisite "You created the FAT32 / EXT2 combo partitions" I mean this is a PRE-REQUISITE! I found a thread regarding the fat/ext deal and didnt understand it either.
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As mentioned, FAT32 and EXT2 are types of filesystems. Think of it as being told to store a box in a wearhouse. The filesystem, in a sense, would be like the isles, shelves, etc. that help you not just have a giant pile of stuff.
This is asking you to have an SD card that has been partitioned off into two partitions (a giant wall in the middle of the wearhouse) where on one side you have one way of storing things that is easily understandable by the average joe (windows, linux, apple) and one side that is much more complicated but much more efficient to store things that only the wearhouse manager understand (linux.)
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I know nobody is here to babysit but is there some website somebody can direct me to to begin understanding what Im reading, I mean I read through the sd partition for dummies thread and I literally understood MAYBE 10% of the words, if thats for "dummies" im clearly the "dumbest"
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No. We all started somewhere. Nobody here came here and understood everything over night. Most of us have YEARS of experience in the computer field, if not decades. As far as knowledge here, it takes months of READING to really start to understand things. Once you do, THEN things will make sense and then you're less likely to break your phone.
DMaverick50 said:
I have the will I just dont have the way, ive typed the language i dont understand into every search engine I know of and Ive learned nothing. You guys are born geniuses
and what the hell's a "script"
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Read, read, read. That's my way.
And like mentioned, a script is just what it is in real life. Something you follow. If I gave you a movie script, you follow what it tells you to do while in the movie. In the computer world, it's the same. You write a script that tells the computer what to do.
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I see you joined few days ago. I suggest you start from the begining. i.e. read all stickies. Every questions that you've asked here was asked before by someone else and answered multiple times.
To offer a glimpse of hope here: it's a lot easier for n00bs now as more and more people get comfortable with Android and Android tools and it's not just 2-3 guys who can answer a question. Also, at this point we have apps that will run a script for you, move your apps and caches to SD, overclock you CPU, etc etc etc.
Welcome to XDA and good luck
For the APPS2SD do this....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=500387
OH, first backup EVERYTHING on your SD card to your desktop.
Open the terminal program... I always do this **** in adb cause you wont catch me dead trying to type and read a small screen when adb is copy and paste.
type
su
cd /data
wget http://64.105.21.209/bin/lib/droid/sdsplit
chmod 555 sdsplit
/data/sdsplit -nd -fs 7500M (thats for an 8 gig card. so adjust it depending on what side card you have 4 gig = 3500M etc...)
Now you need to make sure you have an APPS2SD rom... That makes /system/sd available. Now you have to copy and make "aliases" from the old spot to the new... Million threads on that one. Just wanted to give props to "MartinFick"s script (bunch of commands in a file I guess you can say. You can run any partitioning sw on windows 7 or I would of gone that route...
i appreciate the replies. Ive been on this forum for about month checking throughout the day (instead of paying attention to my professors) but only signed up recently to post.
I do understand the concept of nandroid and the sd partition, I just get lost in the processes very quickly. In my life Ive only learned by screwing things up so im ready for almost anything. I dont want to get stuck without a phone though so Ill definitely try to get a better understanding before trying anything dramatic. I guess Ill keep looking for some website that has a search where I can just type in all of the language I dont understand, surely this type of site exists I just havent found it yet...
southsko said:
For the APPS2SD do this....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=500387
OH, first backup EVERYTHING on your SD card to your desktop.
Open the terminal program... I always do this **** in adb cause you wont catch me dead trying to type and read a small screen when adb is copy and paste.
type
su
cd /data
wget http://64.105.21.209/bin/lib/droid/sdsplit
chmod 555 sdsplit
/data/sdsplit -nd -fs 7500M (thats for an 8 gig card. so adjust it depending on what side card you have 4 gig = 3500M etc...)
Now you need to make sure you have an APPS2SD rom... That makes /system/sd available. Now you have to copy and make "aliases" from the old spot to the new... Million threads on that one. Just wanted to give props to "MartinFick"s script (bunch of commands in a file I guess you can say. You can run any partitioning sw on windows 7 or I would of gone that route...
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The steps seem doable but it says to use jesusfreak's build, i am on dude's will this be a problem? thanks
Simple...we are the borg! The apparent knowledge is actually just one giant shared conscience, connecting our minds together from the time we log onto XDA...and we think you should join us. *Evil Laugh*
knight4linux said:
Simple...we are the borg! The apparent knowledge is actually just one giant shared conscience, connecting our minds together from the time we log onto XDA...and we think you should join us. *Evil Laugh*
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ROFL.
DMaverick50 said:
I guess Ill keep looking for some website that has a search where I can just type in all of the language I dont understand, surely this type of site exists I just havent found it yet...
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I'm not sure if that exists. You see, almost all of those terms were invented by people in THIS forum.
DMaverick50 said:
The steps seem doable but it says to use jesusfreak's build, i am on dude's will this be a problem? thanks
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I did it on the dudes. Any (i think) build that enables the ext partition to be mounted to /system/sd will work...
So can I partition while on this regular build and then flash the apps2sd build or do I need to first download an apps2sd build and then do the actual partition?
some help
When it says to use the jf build that's just the one he used and is familiar with the steps the root hack the phone are the same no matter what. Now the thing you want to do is learn one proccess and stick with it weather it be abd, fastboot, or the sdcard method for beginners or noobs I do not suggest adb or fastboot cause it require knowing how to use a comand line and if you don't know what that is then don't try it. But like everyone says read about it first before you take the plunge also since you have a friend who can do it have him show you how he does it sometime seeing it done on the fly or being told while doing it with someone there to take over if things go wrong is always good. Have fun flashing and once you figure it out do it a few time to get used to it
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I had a friend root my phone and I know if I want to flash a new build I rename the file update and drag it to my android folder then restart the phone a certain way and press alt s to load the build.
I love my g1 and the 1.5 build Im using but I cant get any further because Ive scoured the internet and these threads and I just cant figure out what all of this computer jargon means and I dont understand how anybody does know without taking classes in it.
I think I should make a nandroid backup and partition my sd card to run apps but good lord what does this mean (regarding nandroid)???---
"anyone who has root on their G1 and has the engineering/dev spl bootloader [1] (or has a dev phone) + a recovery image with busybox and adbd running as root [2"
and this (regarding sd partition)???---
pre-requisite "You created the FAT32 / EXT2 combo partitions" I mean this is a PRE-REQUISITE! I found a thread regarding the fat/ext deal and didnt understand it either.
I know nobody is here to babysit but is there some website somebody can direct me to to begin understanding what Im reading, I mean I read through the sd partition for dummies thread and I literally understood MAYBE 10% of the words, if thats for "dummies" im clearly the "dumbest"
I have the will I just dont have the way, ive typed the language i dont understand into every search engine I know of and Ive learned nothing. You guys are born geniuses
and what the hell's a "script"
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heheh .. didn't we mention we're all a bunch of geeks - LOL - genius cannot be found here (pointing at self) .. i have been known to have a couple bright ideas now and again tho
"script" is just a funny way of saying "we did the work for you" .. all those lines of text that nobody wants to type over and over and over are all neatly packed into one little file .. type the name of the file and VOILA!! all those lines of text are spit into the little pocket sized computer and you have no blisters on your thumbs to show for it
now .. if we could only find a script that got us thru rush hour traffic
DMaverick50 said:
So can I partition while on this regular build and then flash the apps2sd build or do I need to first download an apps2sd build and then do the actual partition?
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I did what I posted then flashed the APPS2SD rom and then transferred everything over, but when I flashed it it still had all my apps so I would say you can do it before also.
Remember to nandroid backup before you try and move all your files.
OT
Once you get adb running sending all these commands are so easy as you copy and paste and you can restore your phone back the way it was in 2 minutes...
southsko said:
I did what I posted then flashed the APPS2SD rom and then transferred everything over, but when I flashed it it still had all my apps so I would say you can do it before also.
Remember to nandroid backup before you try and move all your files.
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Once you get adb running sending all these commands are so easy as you copy and paste and you can restore your phone back the way it was in 2 minutes...
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i see. im so much more confident attempting the partition after these posts im tempted to ask for the same help with nandroid since ive looked through the threads. But I guess i should head to one of them and start asking questions i know they run a pretty tight ship around here with duplicate threads and off-topic ones and what not...
nandroid was so much harder to read in the thread than it actually is
I'm hoping this thread may help other people.... and will try and help till I run out of beer.. anyway
restoring a backup when you are can connect with fastboot is so simple. Once you get adb working then dl and put fastboot in the tool dir. Then you go to your sd card /nadroid/randomcrap/whatever date/ and copy the 3 files below into the same tools directory.
from the command line on your computer type
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot flash data data.img
I flashed to one of the first cupcake roms and was like **** this! flashed right back to my old backup. ahhhhh!!!
southsko said:
nandroid was so much harder to read in the thread than it actually is
I'm hoping this thread may help other people.... and will try and help till I run out of beer.. anyway
restoring a backup when you are can connect with fastboot is so simple. Once you get adb working then dl and put fastboot in the tool dir. Then you go to your sd card /nadroid/randomcrap/whatever date/ and copy the 3 files below into the same tools directory.
from the command line on your computer type
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot flash data data.img
I flashed to one of the first cupcake roms and was like **** this! flashed right back to my old backup. ahhhhh!!!
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Get ready to laugh..............adb? Fastboot? Everything else looks straight forward ( I assume I'm copying the 3 things to sd thru cpu)...
lmao...
As promised..
You need to obtain the new SPL and Radio first PRIOR to installing this ROM. Follow this post.
Installation:
1. Download http://www.droiddeveloper.com/hrbuilds/app_s.zip
2. extract "app_s" into your sdcard's ext2 partition.
3. Download http://www.droiddeveloper.com/hrbuilds/hero-signed.zip
4. Place on regular sd card.
5. Reboot into recovery, wipe and flash.
6. Enjoy.
Only thing that shouldn't work at the moment is bluetooth and some minor features.. besides that you have a fully functional hero rom.
enjoy guys..
Phuck the leakers, and there supporters.
EDIT: as far as the bluetooth problem goes, i haven't played with a fix just yet.. i've spent this free time since i've quit to catch up on homework guys.
this is not me coming back.... this is just to clear my conscience, and a big "Phuck YOU" to the leakers
EDIT2: it's using ext2 instead of ext3 because, again, i haven't worked on the rom since i've quit..
for those of you that don't know how to place app_s into sd card do this:
Code:
adb push app_s /system/sd/app_s
enjoy.
EDIT3: /system/app wouldn't fit.. and if i did /data/app_s like before, it wouldn't give you any space in /data this is why i did it this way.
and yes.. this has Rosie.
Enable Superuser.apk & Enhance ROSIE UI FOR HERO ROM
Bluetooth debuging on Hero
Clean up rosie!!
HTC Hero Speedup v2.0
HTC Hero Rosie UI toggle
How you put App_s into the ext2 partition
THE HERO HAS RISSEN! But really,thanks.
EDIT:how do I put the app_s onto a ext2 partion via windows? I lost my linux live cd.
wich one do we download 1 or 3 ?
and thanks alot haykuro much love dawg thanks again
I dont use Apps2SD so can i just add the app_s back to the data folder and resign?
F!! Why does it have to be on an ext2? I cant get the permissions yo ork on my sdcard! Is there a way to avoid this?
And ps. Good god thank you!
If you dont, then wait for someone else to say how. This isn't a tech. It's apps2sd method or none right now.
@justanothercrowd no, this requires apps2sd because its so large.
@ynghova187 and dutman yes
So how would I go about on doing step 3? Srry I just unrooted my phone because it was randomly shutting off, and now I see this, and I want to root. lol.
Darkrift said:
@justanothercrowd no, this requires apps2sd because its so large.
@ynghova187 and dutman yes
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For someone whos never used apps2sd, is there a quick tutorial for this?
I've searched, but theres nothing that i found about putting a "app_s" folder onto the partition...
Sorry for the n00b question, im usually pretty good with this type of stuff, but i'm at a loss
Darkrift said:
@justanothercrowd no, this requires apps2sd because its so large.
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Which method(s) should work? I've seen at least 5 so far, including an application or two.
will my apps2sd application automatically move this apps folder to partion2?
dutman said:
So how would I go about on doing step 3? Srry I just unrooted my phone because it was randomly shutting off, and now I see this, and I want to root. lol.
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Step 3 is simply downloading a file. Is that really what you need help with?
if i dont have apps to sd what links can i download any help i never used apps to sd
This would be the perfect time for the few of us that still haven't been using apps2sd
nice that this has rosie.
Which tut would is the most widely used and most compatible method
startekee said:
How you put App_s into the ext2 partition
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same question i am using windows... and i used paragon to partition my card before... but windows does not show ext2... is there a way around this??
ext2...
adb push app_s /system/sd
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where do i put that into, im sorta new to this and i have the ion rom right now.. also do we need the special spl?
No, I need help with Step 2. Sorry that was a typo. And do you have an answer for me Mr. mikedmeyer?
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adb push app_s /system/sd
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where do i put that into, im sorta new to this and i have the ion rom right now.. also do we need the special spl?
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I can't help you with ADB, but if you are running a linux distribution, load GPartEd and you can format your card (if you havent already) and place it on the ext2 partition.
Apps 2 Virtual Disk 0.53b
For those of you that are wondering "What is this guy smoking?" (which I assume is all of you), this is an automatically re-sizing virtual apps 2 SD ext3 partition. It is stored as an image file on your existing Fat32 partition.
I have done my best to make this as idiot proof and bug free as possible but I always appreciate constructive criticism. Please be kind, I haven't had access to a computer while writing this so it was written entirely on my G1. Therefore I expect that it will have a few bugs.
This barrows very heavily from Cyanogen's work so please thank him for making this possible.
Installing
To install the utility just download the file on your phone, open your terminal emulator and run:
Code:
su
sh /sdcard/download/a2vd-0.53b.zip
It does the rest.
Please note, this is NOT a zip file! It is a shell script. XDA won't let you post any file this big unless it's a zip file. (Can we get an Admin on this?) Good thing linux doesn't give a crap about file extensions.
Once you reboot your phone the utility will create the virtual partition, move over your apps, then re-size the partition to have 15 MB of free space. Please note, it will reboot 3 - 4 times during the first boot.
This should run on any rom that executes /system/bin/a2sd during boot.
It has been confirmed to work on Cyanogen 3.5.2 and higher.
Automatic Resizing
The partition will automatically re-size so you don't have to guess how big you need to make it. Now you can take a bite out of crime, in stead of your Fat32 partition. ;-)
If you run low on space just reboot your phone. If the free space on your virtual partition is less than 10 MB or more than 20 MB it will be re-sized to have 15 MB of free space. Please ignore the fact that free space may be listed as 13 or 14 MB, as far as I can tell this is an issue with the OS, the readout becomes more accurate as the partition gets bigger.
Disabling the Partition
If you wish to boot up with the Apps 2 Virtual Disk partition disabled simply open up your terminal emulator and run:
Code:
su
a2sdoff
You can also remove the SD card while the phone is off.
This is useful if you need to transfer files over USB cable.
Automatic backup
If you boot with the partition disabled the utility will backup some system settings so your apps and widgets will all still work when you re-enable the partition. It will also maintain a separate launcher profile for when you boot with the partition disabled. Now you don't have to stare at a desktop full of broken icons every time you need to transfer files to your computer.
Upgrading to a New Rom
Transitioning to a new rom can break some of your apps and widgets. To prevent this follow this procedure:
1. Place your new update.zip file on the root of your SD card.
2. Open terminal emulator and run:
Code:
su
a2sdoff -u
This will reboot your phone, prepare the backups, and take you to recovery.
3. Flash your new rom. (If you exit recovery without flashing you must re-run "a2sdoff -u" before attempting another flash)
4. Boot up your new rom, open terminal emulator and re-install Apps2VD.
Okay, you can start downloading now.
Thank you for your support and enjoy!
As a side note, If you install this on a phone that already has a traditional Apps2SD partition it will NOT copy over your apps. I'm working on it but until then you'll have to either just deal with it or copy them you self.
Edit: Download has been removed due to security concerns. Will re-upload when solved.
Sweet !....so basically it allows app2sd without an ext partition ? so just a fat32 partition is gud enough right ?
this is really intriguing, but i think i'm gonna hold off until some brave souls try it out with some feedback
Daneshm90 said:
Sweet !....so basically it allows app2sd without an ext partition ? so just a fat32 partition is gud enough right ?
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Exactly! In fact, it requires nothing more than downloading and typing in one command.
narcopolypse said:
Exactly! In fact, it requires nothing more than downloading and typing in one command.
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Aight im nandroid'd...n ready to test lol...will post results
So what is the plus side of using this? Is this just a tool for people who can't or don't have an ext partition? Do you know how it compares performance wise?
miketaylor00 said:
So what is the plus side of using this? Is this just a tool for people who can't or don't have an ext partition? Do you know how it compares performance wise?
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Didnt work on xRom....kept bootloopin the first bootscreen
grandomegabosses said:
this is really intriguing, but i think i'm gonna hold off until some brave souls try it out with some feedback
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I've been running this build for 4 day and previous alpha builds for over a month.
So have all of my friends.
miketaylor00 said:
So what is the plus side of using this? Is this just a tool for people who can't or don't have an ext partition? Do you know how it compares performance wise?
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Performance is identical. The primary reason I built this is to have an automatically re-sizing apps partition. And the ability to boot disabled without breaking all of my widgets.
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I've been running this build for 4 day and previous alpha builds for over a month.
So have all of my friends.
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hmmm i might try it later tonight or maybe tomorrow. after reading some more, i've gotten a little bit more confidence.
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Performance is identical. The primary reason I built this is to have an automatically re-sizing apps partition. And the ability to boot disabled without breaking all of my widgets.
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It seems suprising to me that an image file on a FAT32 partition would perform the exact same way as an ext partition. I guess I will have to find out for myself
If this really does work and perform well, this could be google's solution to allow non rooted phones the ability to free up memory on their phone.
Either way, thanks for taking the time to do this.
Daneshm90 said:
Didnt work on xRom....kept bootloopin the first bootscreen
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Yes, it will. And it would probably have a similar problem on later Cyanogen builds. You will have to modify the a2sd file to tell it not to automatically create apps2sd.
Daneshm90 said:
Didnt work on xRom....kept bootloopin the first bootscreen
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It is supposed to reboot 3 - 4 times during the first boot.
this is really interesting, thank you for this. earlier today i made a modified a2sd script that makes the a2sd look for dev/block/mmcblk0p4 (fourth partition) and since there is none cyanogen's apps2sd will not be created. also in the file is a modified userinit.sh and user.conf that point to dev/block/mmcblk0p2 instead of 0p3 so that if you wanted to use this and only have a fat32 partition and linux-swap partition you could still get the benefits of it. saw this thread and thought this would be a place where these files could be used.
edit: was just thinking, does this overwrite the a2sd script? either way the modded userinit.sh and user.conf can still help.
david1171 said:
this is really interesting, thank you for this. earlier today i made a modified a2sd script that makes the a2sd look for dev/block/mmcblk0p4 (fourth partition) and since there is none cyanogen's apps2sd will not be created. also in the file is a modified userinit.sh and user.conf that point to dev/block/mmcblk0p2 instead of 0p3 so that if you wanted to use this and only have a fat32 partition and linux-swap partition you could still get the benefits of it. saw this thread and thought this would be a place where these files could be used.
edit: was just thinking, does this overwrite the a2sd script? either way the modded userinit.sh and user.conf can still help.
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Yes this does replace /system/bin/a2sd and it stops checking for 0p2. It is based entirely off Cyanogen's a2sd that is used in every new rom out there and should be compatible with all of them.
Has anyone tested this yet? Which roms does it work on?
How does this work with mounting your phone on your computer? Like when you want to put music on. Can you do it the same way or do you have to shut your phone down and use a SDcard reader? Because I thought the was the main reason for not using fat32 for A2SD.
miketaylor00 said:
It seems suprising to me that an image file on a FAT32 partition would perform the exact same way as an ext partition. I guess I will have to find out for myself
If this really does work and perform well, this could be google's solution to allow non rooted phones the ability to free up memory on their phone.
Either way, thanks for taking the time to do this.
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probably the wouldn't use it as you should be able to extract files from the img file
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It is supposed to reboot 3 - 4 times during the first boot.
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Lol, no i tried again rebooted like 20 times so i gave up n nandroid'd.
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How does this work with mounting your phone on your computer? Like when you want to put music on. Can you do it the same way or do you have to shut your phone down and use a SDcard reader? Because I thought the was the main reason for not using fat32 for A2SD.
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That would be my concern as well. I don't see any way around this, though I'm not a dev by any means.
alritewhadeva said:
probably the wouldn't use it as you should be able to extract files from the img file
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I'm sure they could make the img file only accesible by the sytem.
update (FIRERAT's implentation): http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/2636-froyo-a2sdext/page__p__24386#entry24386
Ive seen this method around. And i was wondering....would it be possible to bypass the ADB steps for someone like me that doesnt have ADB access?
motoman234 said:
Ive seen this method around. And i was wondering....would it be possible to bypass the ADB steps for someone like me that doesnt have ADB access?
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It's actually very easy:
Install Droid explorer (xda)
C:\Program Files\Droid Explorer\SDK\tools (Run... cmd)
I am trying this now...I will post back after installing some apps
EDIT= This is great and works a trea ...thanks dude
robuser007 said:
It's actually very easy:
Install Droid explorer (xda)
C:\Program Files\Droid Explorer\SDK\tools (Run... cmd)
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Well thats my problem, my computer is super old and messed up. I cant get administrator access to downloads the proper files for adb. All i can do is download zip files to transfer for my phone lol.
motoman234 said:
Well thats my problem, my computer is super old and messed up. I cant get administrator access to downloads the proper files for adb. All i can do is download zip files to transfer for my phone lol.
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Juts make another account and make it Admin. Then use the new account.
If your windows is that bad then I would either use a backup(if you did one) or a fresh install.
deuse said:
Juts make another account and make it Admin. Then use the new account.
If your windows is that bad then I would either use a backup(if you did one) or a fresh install.
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Well to create a new account i would have to have admin access. Like a year or so ago this computer was givin to me for that reason lol. Theres a admin account on my computer but i cant get into it. Never could I wish there was a work around. Ive been messing with android for a long time and not once i have EVER used ADB lol. I would love to, theres so much stuff that i cant do because of this terrible computer.
motoman234 said:
Well to create a new account i would have to have admin access. Like a year or so ago this computer was givin to me for that reason lol. Theres a admin account on my computer but i cant get into it. Never could I wish there was a work around. Ive been messing with android for a long time and not once i have EVER used ADB lol. I would love to, theres so much stuff that i cant do because of this terrible computer.
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Find yourself a copy of BartPE with Password Renew in it.
Burn, boot, use password renew to reset the password for any account.
I'm trying this, except when I get to "adb shell a2sd install" it says a2sd: not found.
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I had to go to /system/bin before i could run a2sd via ./a2sd, after which it worked.
What's the benefit of this over Froyo's SD implementation?
sleepwalkers said:
What's the benefit of this over Froyo's SD implementation?
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it allows you to use the ext partition from previous versions of CM. Froyo's version now uses a fat32 partition on the sd card, therefore will not read the ext partition and the fact that your apps are on there.
sleepwalkers said:
What's the benefit of this over Froyo's SD implementation?
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It's not as good, but coming from <= CM5 you may want to port along your apps.
Also Froyo's SD implementation is supported on an per app basis, but can be forced via CM. Note that dalvik cache is only moved to SD when using legacy a2sd.
sturmeh said:
It's not as good, but coming from <= CM5 you may want to port along your apps.
Also Froyo's SD implementation is supported on an per app basis, but can be forced via CM. Note that dalvik cache is only moved to SD when using legacy a2sd.
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Not true.
See this thread for a more detailed discussion about the pros and cons between froyo2sd and app2sd.
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/2018-apps2sd-brainstorming/
I will have a try , Thanks..
LIKEHELL said:
I will have a try , Thanks..
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froyo implementation isn't as good as apps2ext. The froyo method uses the fat32 partition but only if the dev of the app allows it to be moved to the sdcard. plus the apps don't all load on boot because the phone has to mount (prepare)the fat32 partition of the sdcard. This is the reason that many apps are not launching at boot like SetCpu and other root access apps, because the system boots before the sdcard is prepared. This is also the reason why many widgets and apps are missing from the app drawer for a lot of people as well. Cyanogenmod really needs to look at this and think about changing back to the old cm5 way of doing things.
I am trying to find a good backup app as doing a Nandroid did not work for me with doing aps2sd this way.
OMG
honestly , do you really need to add 5.1mb of crap to /system to get what should be a simple script running?
and what is /data/a2sd/Vending.apk for?
Awful, just awful
Code:
$ find
./a2sd-2.7-update3r1-signed.zip
./system
./system/lib
./system/lib/libext2_e2p.so
./system/lib/libext2_profile.so
./system/lib/libext2_com_err.so
./system/lib/libext2fs.so
./system/lib/libext2_blkid.so
./system/lib/libext2_uuid.so
./system/bin
./system/bin/fixa2sd
./system/bin/setupa2sd
./system/bin/apps2sd
./system/bin/boota2sd
./system/bin/chka2sd
./system/bin/reboot.a2sd
./system/bin/e2fsck_recvy
./system/bin/e2fsck
./system/bin/zipalign
./system/bin/aligna2sd
./system/bin/launcha2sd
./system/bin/bash
./system/bin/a2sd
./system/bin/starta2sd
./system/bin/busybox.a2sd
./system/etc
./system/etc/init.d
./system/etc/init.d/04apps2sd
./system/etc/init.d/00a2sdreset
./system/xbin
./system/xbin/apps2sd
./system/xbin/e2fsck
./system/xbin/a2sd
./data
./data/a2sd
./data/a2sd/Vending.apk
Firerat said:
OMG
honestly , do you really need to add 5.1mb of crap to /system to get what should be a simple script running?
and what is /data/a2sd/Vending.apk for?
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Could you possibly implement something for this purpose and add your "all in one" script? Please
zimphishmonger said:
Could you possibly implement something for this purpose and add your "all in one" script? Please
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seems I must, even if its not really needed
should have something soon
Firerat said:
seems I must, even if its not really needed
should have something soon
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Thanks man!
I'd like to have all of my apps on my external SD because it transfers at 30mbps, and also to help free up some storage space. Can this be done on my LG Motion? If so, how?
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AppMgr III
rob.hedrick said:
I'd like to have all of my apps on my external SD because it transfers at 30mbps, and also to help free up some storage space. Can this be done on my LG Motion? If so, how?
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Here are two Apps:
Easy APP2SD (Move Apps to SD)
AppMgr III (App 2 SD)
Good Luck
Use link2sd
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Selecting the applications from the application list in the settings menu then use the "application to sd card" option isn't sufficient for you?
rob.hedrick said:
I'd like to have all of my apps on my external SD because it transfers at 30mbps, and also to help free up some storage space. Can this be done on my LG Motion? If so, how?
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Look for folders plug in apk on the xda. Or google search folders plugin
It should allow you to put in system links (short cuts) to the SD card as though the app is still on internal memory, just don't do it to system apps... that can be messy.
Edit: link to the development thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1502893
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Debian Kit Install guide for all android devices that I'm writing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240397
Or
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ssVeIhdBuuy8CtpBP1lWgUkG6fR6oHxP20ToYPPw6zI/edit?usp=drive_web
That isn't an option for me with the LG Motion. I know some droid phones do that but I'll need an app.
Thanks for all the replies, everyone.
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Welcome. If that link to the app isn't for you and you've got root there are directions for adding system links though the command line. It's best to have a full nanDroid backup before messing around with those or the folders plug app because it's easy to soft brick your device if read write permitions get messed up when files are moved to SD, however, there are apps for fixing or setting that after the copy but before system linking.
But do check out the app that I linked to in my previous post if you've not already; works on all my devices and it's kinda funny to see the accessible space for internal memory jump to 30gigs
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Debian Kit Install guide for all android devices that I'm writing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240397
Or
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ssVeIhdBuuy8CtpBP1lWgUkG6fR6oHxP20ToYPPw6zI/edit?usp=drive_web
Ok SO, thx. When I have more time I will definitely check that out.
I got excited because I noticed that my Titanium Backup Pro app has a feature to have my apps automatically transfer to the external SD on a regular scheduled basis. However when I ran it, it says: "Guru caught fire during calculations". Nothing happened... Bummer. Maybe they'll fix that. In the meantime I will check out the mounting .apk. Though skimming the directions it sounds confusing, though it probably isn't... Thanks again, SO.
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It may sound confusing but what it boils down to is;
Copying the folder and it's contents to a folder on your SD card
Verifying it all copied completely and correctly, because sometimes you'll get a stubborn one that won't copy in big chunks.
Then telling the app where it should make the shortcut. System folder
Then tell the app where on the SD card it should link it to. The copied folder.
Takes a few minuets the first time around, then only seconds the next times you run it. Just try merge first instead of move(Edit 1: it's the third option, just make the link), so that if something messes up then your not out re flashing things.
Edit 2: be sure to try it with an empty folder first by making one in data/temp and then linking a folder to it from your SD card that has something in it like the downloads folder. One more thing; don't link system apps all at once, some will handle it just fine, but for example if you link your phones phone call handling data to your SD card, it will barf hard... And avoid setting it at boot until you've worked out how your device handles this.
I've no doubt that it'll be what you're looking for, just not as easy as it'll one day be
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Debian Kit Install guide for all android devices that I'm writing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240397
Or
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ssVeIhdBuuy8CtpBP1lWgUkG6fR6oHxP20ToYPPw6zI/edit?usp=drive_web
Ok, S0, I'm going to give this a shot.. You know what'd make me real confident? Seriously, You making a YouTube how-to video, lol.
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S0, I see 4 different versions of the mounting .apk.. Which one is the best & most stable?
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Ok.. I tried that. It didn't work. Basically it said I need to partition my internal sd in order to link whisk I can't find an option to use the external, also I can't seem to be able to get any user app to move to my external SD, via any application I try to use. In case you might ask, yes my phone is rooted. Bummer man.. I'm lost. This shouldn't be difficult at all, but for some reason, I am mind boggled here...
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Yeah I know what ya mean. Even screen shots would help a little I bet.
Alas though I'll eventually make video tutorials one day, but they'll likely be for the project I'm working on first.
The apps purity easy, but, I can understand not wanting to mess up your device accidentally. There are others out there as far as apps that will accomplish the same thing; perhaps there's a YouTube tutorial for one of them. I'll check and report back, likely after work and update this post with a link or two.
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___taken from the op's thread (page 5) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1502893&page=5
1) install the app 2) open the app 2b) allow root permissions when superuser ask 3) click in the menu key and select mountpoints edition 4) click the menu key and select add mountpoint 5) in the source folder select the folder that contains the data files 6) in the destination folder select the folder in that the apps search for the files 7) click accept 8) in the mountpoiunts list, enable the check right to the mountpoint 9) click the folder icon at the left of the mountpoint to manually mount 10) if all works fine, the grayed icon becomes yellow and is the end...
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____ taken from youtube (simmular but not identical app)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV6w_YZyOIA
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Debian Kit Install guide for all android devices that I'm writing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240397
Or
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ssVeIhdBuuy8CtpBP1lWgUkG6fR6oHxP20ToYPPw6zI/edit?usp=drive_web
That'd be great. Thanks.
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rob.hedrick said:
That'd be great. Thanks.
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Not sure if ya saw the additional links I put up in my previous post here and it's been a few days but I can't really apologize for that; because I've been hard at work on XDA with the guide I've been writing (differences in signatures should sum it up).
Have you gotten the SD linking figured out?
If not; check different kernels and or ROM's for your device there are some that support this kind of "Mangling" of addressing and folder/file linking and some that do not. The ones (kernel and or ROM's) on your device maybe ones of a "safer" build that don't allow such things to happen.
And as far a me making video tutorials... I've found that scripting installers for people to use is way easier; I'll keep it in mind though as youtube is great for getting people comfortable with new ideas and methods.
I'll try to be back again sometime if ya don't hit me up somewhere else first.
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Debian Kit/QEMU Linux Install guide for all android devices that I'm writing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240397
Now working on Scripting installers and tutorials for beginner scripting for; Bash, Python, and Java for Android and Linux
Also working on porting; Crazyflie-Quadcopter, Andoid-Casual, Maptools-MMO table top game maker and hoaster, jMonkey JDK, and Openstack-cloud services to run on Android.