update (FIRERAT's implentation): http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/2636-froyo-a2sdext/page__p__24386#entry24386
Ive seen this method around. And i was wondering....would it be possible to bypass the ADB steps for someone like me that doesnt have ADB access?
motoman234 said:
Ive seen this method around. And i was wondering....would it be possible to bypass the ADB steps for someone like me that doesnt have ADB access?
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It's actually very easy:
Install Droid explorer (xda)
C:\Program Files\Droid Explorer\SDK\tools (Run... cmd)
I am trying this now...I will post back after installing some apps
EDIT= This is great and works a trea ...thanks dude
robuser007 said:
It's actually very easy:
Install Droid explorer (xda)
C:\Program Files\Droid Explorer\SDK\tools (Run... cmd)
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Well thats my problem, my computer is super old and messed up. I cant get administrator access to downloads the proper files for adb. All i can do is download zip files to transfer for my phone lol.
motoman234 said:
Well thats my problem, my computer is super old and messed up. I cant get administrator access to downloads the proper files for adb. All i can do is download zip files to transfer for my phone lol.
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Juts make another account and make it Admin. Then use the new account.
If your windows is that bad then I would either use a backup(if you did one) or a fresh install.
deuse said:
Juts make another account and make it Admin. Then use the new account.
If your windows is that bad then I would either use a backup(if you did one) or a fresh install.
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Well to create a new account i would have to have admin access. Like a year or so ago this computer was givin to me for that reason lol. Theres a admin account on my computer but i cant get into it. Never could I wish there was a work around. Ive been messing with android for a long time and not once i have EVER used ADB lol. I would love to, theres so much stuff that i cant do because of this terrible computer.
motoman234 said:
Well to create a new account i would have to have admin access. Like a year or so ago this computer was givin to me for that reason lol. Theres a admin account on my computer but i cant get into it. Never could I wish there was a work around. Ive been messing with android for a long time and not once i have EVER used ADB lol. I would love to, theres so much stuff that i cant do because of this terrible computer.
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Find yourself a copy of BartPE with Password Renew in it.
Burn, boot, use password renew to reset the password for any account.
I'm trying this, except when I get to "adb shell a2sd install" it says a2sd: not found.
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I had to go to /system/bin before i could run a2sd via ./a2sd, after which it worked.
What's the benefit of this over Froyo's SD implementation?
sleepwalkers said:
What's the benefit of this over Froyo's SD implementation?
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it allows you to use the ext partition from previous versions of CM. Froyo's version now uses a fat32 partition on the sd card, therefore will not read the ext partition and the fact that your apps are on there.
sleepwalkers said:
What's the benefit of this over Froyo's SD implementation?
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It's not as good, but coming from <= CM5 you may want to port along your apps.
Also Froyo's SD implementation is supported on an per app basis, but can be forced via CM. Note that dalvik cache is only moved to SD when using legacy a2sd.
sturmeh said:
It's not as good, but coming from <= CM5 you may want to port along your apps.
Also Froyo's SD implementation is supported on an per app basis, but can be forced via CM. Note that dalvik cache is only moved to SD when using legacy a2sd.
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Not true.
See this thread for a more detailed discussion about the pros and cons between froyo2sd and app2sd.
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/2018-apps2sd-brainstorming/
I will have a try , Thanks..
LIKEHELL said:
I will have a try , Thanks..
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froyo implementation isn't as good as apps2ext. The froyo method uses the fat32 partition but only if the dev of the app allows it to be moved to the sdcard. plus the apps don't all load on boot because the phone has to mount (prepare)the fat32 partition of the sdcard. This is the reason that many apps are not launching at boot like SetCpu and other root access apps, because the system boots before the sdcard is prepared. This is also the reason why many widgets and apps are missing from the app drawer for a lot of people as well. Cyanogenmod really needs to look at this and think about changing back to the old cm5 way of doing things.
I am trying to find a good backup app as doing a Nandroid did not work for me with doing aps2sd this way.
OMG
honestly , do you really need to add 5.1mb of crap to /system to get what should be a simple script running?
and what is /data/a2sd/Vending.apk for?
Awful, just awful
Code:
$ find
./a2sd-2.7-update3r1-signed.zip
./system
./system/lib
./system/lib/libext2_e2p.so
./system/lib/libext2_profile.so
./system/lib/libext2_com_err.so
./system/lib/libext2fs.so
./system/lib/libext2_blkid.so
./system/lib/libext2_uuid.so
./system/bin
./system/bin/fixa2sd
./system/bin/setupa2sd
./system/bin/apps2sd
./system/bin/boota2sd
./system/bin/chka2sd
./system/bin/reboot.a2sd
./system/bin/e2fsck_recvy
./system/bin/e2fsck
./system/bin/zipalign
./system/bin/aligna2sd
./system/bin/launcha2sd
./system/bin/bash
./system/bin/a2sd
./system/bin/starta2sd
./system/bin/busybox.a2sd
./system/etc
./system/etc/init.d
./system/etc/init.d/04apps2sd
./system/etc/init.d/00a2sdreset
./system/xbin
./system/xbin/apps2sd
./system/xbin/e2fsck
./system/xbin/a2sd
./data
./data/a2sd
./data/a2sd/Vending.apk
Firerat said:
OMG
honestly , do you really need to add 5.1mb of crap to /system to get what should be a simple script running?
and what is /data/a2sd/Vending.apk for?
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Could you possibly implement something for this purpose and add your "all in one" script? Please
zimphishmonger said:
Could you possibly implement something for this purpose and add your "all in one" script? Please
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seems I must, even if its not really needed
should have something soon
Firerat said:
seems I must, even if its not really needed
should have something soon
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Thanks man!
Related
Here's a recompiled version of the Browser that supports auto rotate.
Here's the download location for the Browser.apk:
http://www.koushikdutta.com/2008/12/auto-rotate-for-android-browser.html
Run the following from the command prompt to install the new Browser:
Installation Instructions:
adb remount
adb shell rm /system/app/Browser.odex
adb push Browser.apk /system/app/Browser.apk
Now start up the Browser.
You may not have a Browser.odex depending on your phone model.
The change, as I mentioned before, is really trivial. In the BrowserActivity.onCreate, I did the following:
// the next line is the original code
// setRequestedOrientation(mSettings.getOrientation());
// make it use the sensor for orientation instead.
setRequestedOrientation(ActivityInfo.SCREEN_ORIENTATION_SENSOR);
To restore the original Browser, flash RC30 again.
Koush, thanks so much! I have been waiting for this!
i can't get it to install and now the browser don't work and i can't install the back up
I'm getting no space available when pushing the browser.apk
JF rc30 v1.2
kron2 said:
i can't get it to install and now the browser don't work and i can't install the back up
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You can't get it to install? Could you be more specific?
saul972 said:
I'm getting no space available when pushing the browser.apk
JF rc30 v1.2
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Your /system partition ran out of room. Is there something you can delete from there? I've seen this before as well on some of my company's phones; I usually end up deleting some ringtones or other junk files.
took a couple of tries but installed now...thanks!
fyi i rebooted phone to initially install the new Browser. I first got errors w/o rebooting so that may fix the problem
I had the same problems with the new browser crashing and then being told that the file couldnt be copied due to lack of space,
Easiest fix is to just reinstall rc30 or rc8 and install the patched browser again.
Worked fine after that
Koush said:
Your /system partition ran out of room. Is there something you can delete from there? I've seen this before as well on some of my company's phones; I usually end up deleting some ringtones or other junk files.
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Not sure.
Here's the message
failed to copy 'Browser.apk' to 'system/app/Browser.apk' : no space left on device
SGTDavePwnage said:
I had the same problems with the new browser crashing and then being told that the file couldnt be copied due to lack of space,
Easiest fix is to just reinstall rc30 or rc8 and install the patched browser again.
Worked fine after that
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Will I need to start the process again?
saul972 said:
Will I need to start the process again?
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Its basically telling you that it cant copy the file because of lack of space withing the system partition.
As koush advises, if you know how to clear space that will fix the problem.
If you dont know how to remove things and are a bit unsure of what to do, reinstalling the modified rc30 / rc8 will reset the system partition back to its defaults.
Once your back and set to default you can try to install again if you want
I'm assuming this is for those who have root access only?
If so, it would be nice to state that when posting these mods.
Henchman said:
I'm assuming this is for those who have root access only?
If so, it would be nice to state that when posting these mods.
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Yes this requires root access,
I can see what you are saying about perhaps specifying in the post when something requires root access, but when you look at the instructions in this case its quite obvious that this one does require root.
PS.... Cheers for the upload Koush
SGTDavePwnage said:
Yes this requires root access,
I can see what you are saying about perhaps specifying in the post when something requires root access, but when you look at the instructions in this case its quite obvious that this one does require root.
PS.... Cheers for the upload Koush
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Obviouse to em...
But probably not to everyone.
And you know the old saying. When you Assume...
where do i put Browser.apk to install it on the sd card and if so how do i use adb to see it or do i push it from like c:\browser.apk \system\app\browser.apk
SGTDavePwnage said:
Its basically telling you that it cant copy the file because of lack of space withing the system partition.
As koush advises, if you know how to clear space that will fix the problem.
If you dont know how to remove things and are a bit unsure of what to do, reinstalling the modified rc30 / rc8 will reset the system partition back to its defaults.
Once your back and set to default you can try to install again if you want
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Finally got it!!! Thanks for your help
kron2 said:
where do i put Browser.apk to install it on the sd card and if so how do i use adb to see it or do i push it from like c:\browser.apk \system\app\browser.apk
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Place it in the tools folder of the SDK folder on your PC
thx joshoowa i installed it finally i did have it in the tool folder but would not install but after several tries it did i was starting to think i was installing it wrong
I've deleted most of my .ogg audio related tones in the /media/audio folder but i still get no space left. what else can i delete?
btw i'm using adb shell rm /xxx/xxx/xxx/xx.ogg to delete. is that right?
Hey Hey!!!...
Had to free up some room, but it works great..
Thanks..
Hey all,
I know I just put up my tutorial on how to do this but hopefully this will make things easier for everyone. I'd still suggest doing a nandroid backup first just to make sure but I tested this on my phone so it should work. Just run the app and if this is the first time moving your apps to your sd card(and you want to keep the ones you have) leave the checkbox checked. Otherwise uncheck it. Then just press the buttons that correspond to what you want to do. Enjoy
In order to use this you MUST:
1: Have an apps-to-sd ROM
2: Have your sd card partitioned correctly with FAT32 first and ext2 second.
3: Have busybox already installed to /system/xbin
NOTE: I'll try to help as much as I can but I can't take responsibility for anything this does to your phone. I'm pretty sure nothing bad will happen and nothing irreparable can happen but gotta say these things just to be sure anytime I'm messing with root permissions.
ANOTHER NOTE: I'll put this up in the market for $1. It'll remain free here but people can donate to me that way.
YET ANOTHER NOTE: I've managed to get a new method working that's a lot more stable and flexible. I will keep this thread here but won't be maintaining it.
EDIT: Moving data is too unstable, I've removed the option. It doesn't force close anymore when you don't have the setup right, it just gives an error and wont let you do anything, so that's better.
Tried it this morning and worked great. You might add a pop up at the end of moving apps to restart the device. When less experienced people use it, they won't know to do that I'm afraid.
the app sends me into abootloop at the htc screen
ps
i tried from fresh wipe and sd
Nismo300zx said:
the app sends me into abootloop at the htc screen
ps
i tried from fresh wipe and sd
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OH SHOOT!!! I fixed this problem on the market one but forgot to put it back up on here. Umm... for now no1 should use the one posted here, until I can get home and post the updated one. OR if you still want to fix this and don't much just a bit of fiddling in the recovery terminal, after moving apps to sd, restart in recovery mode and do this:
Code:
mount data
ln -s /system/sd/app /data/app
For anyone who cares about such things, the problem is that it deletes the /data/app folder and then makes a symlink, which sounds ok, except that every super user command has to be run through the whitelist app... which no longer exists. So it's not able to set up the link and all hell breaks loose.
i did use the 1 from here
it says ln: /data/app: file exists
if i already had apps2sd, tried to upgrade my phone from 5.0 to 5.01G, so I wiped...then data.img wouldn't flash over...if i do this, will my apps show up again?
Nismo300zx said:
i did use the 1 from here
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ya it's the one from here that's broken, sorry. If you haven't already flashed back and everything(still have the boot loop) then you can use the code I posted and it should fix it. I'll post the updated version tonight when I get back home.
AbsoluteDesignz said:
if i already had apps2sd, tried to upgrade my phone from 5.0 to 5.01G, so I wiped...then data.img wouldn't flash over...if i do this, will my apps show up again?
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Yes, just uncheck the checkbox. But you might want to read the note that I just posted, there's a known problem with it that has a fix but requires going into the recovery terminal. I'll post the updated version of this app that doesn't have that bug tonight.
jus tried and nothing ..now im stuck at tmobile g1 screen..im startin to think it just dnt like me
Nismo300zx said:
jus tried and nothing ..now im stuck at tmobile g1 screen..im startin to think it just dnt like me
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Try reading a few of the posts above yours.
ThaBadBoy said:
Try reading a few of the posts above yours.
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i been at this for 2days ive tried evrythin ..hmm time to give up soon
Nismo300zx said:
i been at this for 2days ive tried evrythin ..hmm time to give up soon
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Not really,,
According to the like 6th post or something its states this app wont work if you download it from here, but if you were to get it through the market....
Bob should now be your uncle
if you give him some time as clearly posted again, he will fix the app from the first post and replace it later on
Dantehman said:
Not really,,
According to the like 6th post or something its states this app wont work if you download it from here, but if you were to get it through the market....
Bob should now be your uncle
if you give him some time as clearly posted again, he will fix the app from the first post and replace it later on
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ok if i typed the commands in manually and it wnt work ..and the app wnt work ..im tired of wipin the fone and formattin the sd card...=[ i give up
Nismo300zx said:
ok if i typed the commands in manually and it wnt work ..and the app wnt work ..im tired of wipin the fone and formattin the sd card...=[ i give up
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you had the "stale NFS handle" right? I'm not really sure what's going on but something in your phone's file system sounds like it went screwy. Maybe someone like JF or LucidREM could help? Your problem goes way over my head and I'm guessing the same is true of a lot of people on here unfortunately.
its cool imma jus stay with apps n caches to sd...n kep dalvik on the fone..i got passed the nfs error and get stuck at tmo g1 screen maybe ill try again l8ter
jf rom
Ok question I know it says apps to sd rom is needed does this mean only haykuro roms? I have a jfrc33 1.42 and I could do apps to sd using this rom (planning on doing it tonight my 8gig class 6 card arrived) so my question is can I just use this app or do I need to do all the steps manually
jjjackson56 said:
Ok question I know it says apps to sd rom is needed does this mean only haykuro roms? I have a jfrc33 1.42 and I could do apps to sd using this rom (planning on doing it tonight my 8gig class 6 card arrived) so my question is can I just use this app or do I need to do all the steps manually
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It should work on any apps to sd ROM. This includes LucidREM's modified JF ROMs. If you're gonna be manually changing it into an apps to sd, then I would think it would work but can't promise it. I wasn't able to figure that out when I tried so I'm not 100% sure that they work the same but I would imagine they would. Again, though, the one posted here has that known bug which will be fixed after I get home from work.
Short answer(s):
Haykuro's ROM: definitely works
LucidREM ROM: Don't have it to test it but almost assuredly works
Self-modified: probably works?
Sounds good I wasn't doing it till later tonight anyways (stuck at work also) also is it still a good idea to keep ext2 parititon less then 2gb like lucid reported on his tutorial
jjjackson56 said:
Sounds good I wasn't doing it till later tonight anyways (stuck at work also) also is it still a good idea to keep ext2 parititon less then 2gb like lucid reported on his tutorial
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Probably, I haven't tried anything bigger... and seriously, you'd need a crazy amount of apps to fill up even 1GB...
[email protected] said:
Probably, I haven't tried anything bigger... and seriously, you'd need a crazy amount of apps to fill up even 1GB...
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True. that sure would be a lot I dont even think all the apps in the market would fill 2gigs lol. Thanks for your work look forward to trying it later
As promised..
You need to obtain the new SPL and Radio first PRIOR to installing this ROM. Follow this post.
Installation:
1. Download http://www.droiddeveloper.com/hrbuilds/app_s.zip
2. extract "app_s" into your sdcard's ext2 partition.
3. Download http://www.droiddeveloper.com/hrbuilds/hero-signed.zip
4. Place on regular sd card.
5. Reboot into recovery, wipe and flash.
6. Enjoy.
Only thing that shouldn't work at the moment is bluetooth and some minor features.. besides that you have a fully functional hero rom.
enjoy guys..
Phuck the leakers, and there supporters.
EDIT: as far as the bluetooth problem goes, i haven't played with a fix just yet.. i've spent this free time since i've quit to catch up on homework guys.
this is not me coming back.... this is just to clear my conscience, and a big "Phuck YOU" to the leakers
EDIT2: it's using ext2 instead of ext3 because, again, i haven't worked on the rom since i've quit..
for those of you that don't know how to place app_s into sd card do this:
Code:
adb push app_s /system/sd/app_s
enjoy.
EDIT3: /system/app wouldn't fit.. and if i did /data/app_s like before, it wouldn't give you any space in /data this is why i did it this way.
and yes.. this has Rosie.
Enable Superuser.apk & Enhance ROSIE UI FOR HERO ROM
Bluetooth debuging on Hero
Clean up rosie!!
HTC Hero Speedup v2.0
HTC Hero Rosie UI toggle
How you put App_s into the ext2 partition
THE HERO HAS RISSEN! But really,thanks.
EDIT:how do I put the app_s onto a ext2 partion via windows? I lost my linux live cd.
wich one do we download 1 or 3 ?
and thanks alot haykuro much love dawg thanks again
I dont use Apps2SD so can i just add the app_s back to the data folder and resign?
F!! Why does it have to be on an ext2? I cant get the permissions yo ork on my sdcard! Is there a way to avoid this?
And ps. Good god thank you!
If you dont, then wait for someone else to say how. This isn't a tech. It's apps2sd method or none right now.
@justanothercrowd no, this requires apps2sd because its so large.
@ynghova187 and dutman yes
So how would I go about on doing step 3? Srry I just unrooted my phone because it was randomly shutting off, and now I see this, and I want to root. lol.
Darkrift said:
@justanothercrowd no, this requires apps2sd because its so large.
@ynghova187 and dutman yes
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For someone whos never used apps2sd, is there a quick tutorial for this?
I've searched, but theres nothing that i found about putting a "app_s" folder onto the partition...
Sorry for the n00b question, im usually pretty good with this type of stuff, but i'm at a loss
Darkrift said:
@justanothercrowd no, this requires apps2sd because its so large.
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Which method(s) should work? I've seen at least 5 so far, including an application or two.
will my apps2sd application automatically move this apps folder to partion2?
dutman said:
So how would I go about on doing step 3? Srry I just unrooted my phone because it was randomly shutting off, and now I see this, and I want to root. lol.
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Step 3 is simply downloading a file. Is that really what you need help with?
if i dont have apps to sd what links can i download any help i never used apps to sd
This would be the perfect time for the few of us that still haven't been using apps2sd
nice that this has rosie.
Which tut would is the most widely used and most compatible method
startekee said:
How you put App_s into the ext2 partition
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same question i am using windows... and i used paragon to partition my card before... but windows does not show ext2... is there a way around this??
ext2...
adb push app_s /system/sd
?
where do i put that into, im sorta new to this and i have the ion rom right now.. also do we need the special spl?
No, I need help with Step 2. Sorry that was a typo. And do you have an answer for me Mr. mikedmeyer?
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adb push app_s /system/sd
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where do i put that into, im sorta new to this and i have the ion rom right now.. also do we need the special spl?
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I can't help you with ADB, but if you are running a linux distribution, load GPartEd and you can format your card (if you havent already) and place it on the ext2 partition.
Apps 2 Virtual Disk 0.53b
For those of you that are wondering "What is this guy smoking?" (which I assume is all of you), this is an automatically re-sizing virtual apps 2 SD ext3 partition. It is stored as an image file on your existing Fat32 partition.
I have done my best to make this as idiot proof and bug free as possible but I always appreciate constructive criticism. Please be kind, I haven't had access to a computer while writing this so it was written entirely on my G1. Therefore I expect that it will have a few bugs.
This barrows very heavily from Cyanogen's work so please thank him for making this possible.
Installing
To install the utility just download the file on your phone, open your terminal emulator and run:
Code:
su
sh /sdcard/download/a2vd-0.53b.zip
It does the rest.
Please note, this is NOT a zip file! It is a shell script. XDA won't let you post any file this big unless it's a zip file. (Can we get an Admin on this?) Good thing linux doesn't give a crap about file extensions.
Once you reboot your phone the utility will create the virtual partition, move over your apps, then re-size the partition to have 15 MB of free space. Please note, it will reboot 3 - 4 times during the first boot.
This should run on any rom that executes /system/bin/a2sd during boot.
It has been confirmed to work on Cyanogen 3.5.2 and higher.
Automatic Resizing
The partition will automatically re-size so you don't have to guess how big you need to make it. Now you can take a bite out of crime, in stead of your Fat32 partition. ;-)
If you run low on space just reboot your phone. If the free space on your virtual partition is less than 10 MB or more than 20 MB it will be re-sized to have 15 MB of free space. Please ignore the fact that free space may be listed as 13 or 14 MB, as far as I can tell this is an issue with the OS, the readout becomes more accurate as the partition gets bigger.
Disabling the Partition
If you wish to boot up with the Apps 2 Virtual Disk partition disabled simply open up your terminal emulator and run:
Code:
su
a2sdoff
You can also remove the SD card while the phone is off.
This is useful if you need to transfer files over USB cable.
Automatic backup
If you boot with the partition disabled the utility will backup some system settings so your apps and widgets will all still work when you re-enable the partition. It will also maintain a separate launcher profile for when you boot with the partition disabled. Now you don't have to stare at a desktop full of broken icons every time you need to transfer files to your computer.
Upgrading to a New Rom
Transitioning to a new rom can break some of your apps and widgets. To prevent this follow this procedure:
1. Place your new update.zip file on the root of your SD card.
2. Open terminal emulator and run:
Code:
su
a2sdoff -u
This will reboot your phone, prepare the backups, and take you to recovery.
3. Flash your new rom. (If you exit recovery without flashing you must re-run "a2sdoff -u" before attempting another flash)
4. Boot up your new rom, open terminal emulator and re-install Apps2VD.
Okay, you can start downloading now.
Thank you for your support and enjoy!
As a side note, If you install this on a phone that already has a traditional Apps2SD partition it will NOT copy over your apps. I'm working on it but until then you'll have to either just deal with it or copy them you self.
Edit: Download has been removed due to security concerns. Will re-upload when solved.
Sweet !....so basically it allows app2sd without an ext partition ? so just a fat32 partition is gud enough right ?
this is really intriguing, but i think i'm gonna hold off until some brave souls try it out with some feedback
Daneshm90 said:
Sweet !....so basically it allows app2sd without an ext partition ? so just a fat32 partition is gud enough right ?
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Exactly! In fact, it requires nothing more than downloading and typing in one command.
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Exactly! In fact, it requires nothing more than downloading and typing in one command.
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Aight im nandroid'd...n ready to test lol...will post results
So what is the plus side of using this? Is this just a tool for people who can't or don't have an ext partition? Do you know how it compares performance wise?
miketaylor00 said:
So what is the plus side of using this? Is this just a tool for people who can't or don't have an ext partition? Do you know how it compares performance wise?
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Didnt work on xRom....kept bootloopin the first bootscreen
grandomegabosses said:
this is really intriguing, but i think i'm gonna hold off until some brave souls try it out with some feedback
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I've been running this build for 4 day and previous alpha builds for over a month.
So have all of my friends.
miketaylor00 said:
So what is the plus side of using this? Is this just a tool for people who can't or don't have an ext partition? Do you know how it compares performance wise?
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Performance is identical. The primary reason I built this is to have an automatically re-sizing apps partition. And the ability to boot disabled without breaking all of my widgets.
narcopolypse said:
I've been running this build for 4 day and previous alpha builds for over a month.
So have all of my friends.
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hmmm i might try it later tonight or maybe tomorrow. after reading some more, i've gotten a little bit more confidence.
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Performance is identical. The primary reason I built this is to have an automatically re-sizing apps partition. And the ability to boot disabled without breaking all of my widgets.
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It seems suprising to me that an image file on a FAT32 partition would perform the exact same way as an ext partition. I guess I will have to find out for myself
If this really does work and perform well, this could be google's solution to allow non rooted phones the ability to free up memory on their phone.
Either way, thanks for taking the time to do this.
Daneshm90 said:
Didnt work on xRom....kept bootloopin the first bootscreen
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Yes, it will. And it would probably have a similar problem on later Cyanogen builds. You will have to modify the a2sd file to tell it not to automatically create apps2sd.
Daneshm90 said:
Didnt work on xRom....kept bootloopin the first bootscreen
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It is supposed to reboot 3 - 4 times during the first boot.
this is really interesting, thank you for this. earlier today i made a modified a2sd script that makes the a2sd look for dev/block/mmcblk0p4 (fourth partition) and since there is none cyanogen's apps2sd will not be created. also in the file is a modified userinit.sh and user.conf that point to dev/block/mmcblk0p2 instead of 0p3 so that if you wanted to use this and only have a fat32 partition and linux-swap partition you could still get the benefits of it. saw this thread and thought this would be a place where these files could be used.
edit: was just thinking, does this overwrite the a2sd script? either way the modded userinit.sh and user.conf can still help.
david1171 said:
this is really interesting, thank you for this. earlier today i made a modified a2sd script that makes the a2sd look for dev/block/mmcblk0p4 (fourth partition) and since there is none cyanogen's apps2sd will not be created. also in the file is a modified userinit.sh and user.conf that point to dev/block/mmcblk0p2 instead of 0p3 so that if you wanted to use this and only have a fat32 partition and linux-swap partition you could still get the benefits of it. saw this thread and thought this would be a place where these files could be used.
edit: was just thinking, does this overwrite the a2sd script? either way the modded userinit.sh and user.conf can still help.
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Yes this does replace /system/bin/a2sd and it stops checking for 0p2. It is based entirely off Cyanogen's a2sd that is used in every new rom out there and should be compatible with all of them.
Has anyone tested this yet? Which roms does it work on?
How does this work with mounting your phone on your computer? Like when you want to put music on. Can you do it the same way or do you have to shut your phone down and use a SDcard reader? Because I thought the was the main reason for not using fat32 for A2SD.
miketaylor00 said:
It seems suprising to me that an image file on a FAT32 partition would perform the exact same way as an ext partition. I guess I will have to find out for myself
If this really does work and perform well, this could be google's solution to allow non rooted phones the ability to free up memory on their phone.
Either way, thanks for taking the time to do this.
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probably the wouldn't use it as you should be able to extract files from the img file
narcopolypse said:
It is supposed to reboot 3 - 4 times during the first boot.
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Lol, no i tried again rebooted like 20 times so i gave up n nandroid'd.
speoples20 said:
How does this work with mounting your phone on your computer? Like when you want to put music on. Can you do it the same way or do you have to shut your phone down and use a SDcard reader? Because I thought the was the main reason for not using fat32 for A2SD.
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That would be my concern as well. I don't see any way around this, though I'm not a dev by any means.
alritewhadeva said:
probably the wouldn't use it as you should be able to extract files from the img file
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I'm sure they could make the img file only accesible by the sytem.
Has a ROM been made for the device yet?
As soon as one is made I will be one happy user as this tab has soooo much potential to be great
BEST DAMN PHONE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE BEST DAMN DEVELOPERS!
Yeah i know i need one now lol
bkundert21 said:
Yeah i know i need one now lol
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Why? What would you like a replacement firmware to do? Remove bloat? Do that with titanium backup (or anything else that can 'freeze' pre-installed crud.) Change the launcher? You can already do that (but it seems most of the replacement launchers are designed more for phones.)
What do you want different that you can't already change?
garyd9 said:
Why? What would you like a replacement firmware to do? Remove bloat? Do that with titanium backup (or anything else that can 'freeze' pre-installed crud.) Change the launcher? You can already do that (but it seems most of the replacement launchers are designed more for phones.)
What do you want different that you can't already change?
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I gotta say I agree with Gary. Now that we have root and CWM (thanks to Gary) there's not much more I feel compelled to change I can already with root. Perhaps a custom kernel we can OC but this danged this flies now. Perhaps someone can come up with something that'll amaze us all (and that would be very cool!) and I'll be all over it. Right now with ICS looming it might be a better allocation of dev resources to just lay back and wait/see what that brings?
Now custom themes.....THAT would right now peek my interest. Learned a few things from hatman41 on the TF. This might be an excuse to dig back in.
Just an opinion.
skeeterpro said:
I gotta say I agree with Gary. Now that we have root and CWM (thanks to Gary) there's not much more I feel compelled to change I can already with root. Perhaps a custom kernel we can OC but this danged this flies now. Perhaps someone can come up with something that'll amaze us all (and that would be very cool!) and I'll be all over it. Right now with ICS looming it might be a better allocation of dev resources to just lay back and wait/see what that brings?
Now custom themes.....THAT would right now peek my interest. Learned a few things from hatman41 on the TF. This might be an excuse to dig back in.
Just an opinion.
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I'd like to see a r/w external sd card. Having it be read-only is forcing me to change my process of working. But I do agree with the others, with root and cwm the tab is very very good.
otamctech said:
I'd like to see a r/w external sd card. Having it be read-only is forcing me to change my process of working. But I do agree with the others, with root and cwm the tab is very very good.
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Really? I can change r/o to r/w and back again with Root Explorer in extStorages
skeeterpro said:
Really? I can change r/o to r/w and back again with Root Explorer in extStorages
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yes i can do that also, but even when it is in r/w, i cant say, save an excel file to the card using quickoffice or any other app for that matter. It will only let me save to the built in storage
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yes i can do that also, but even when it is in r/w, i cant say, save an excel file to the card using quickoffice or any other app for that matter. It will only let me save to the built in storage
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Interesting. I was just able to copy/paste from root to a folder on the exStorages and copy a file from the internal to the exStorages (an apk and an ePub)
Just re-read your post. From an app to exStorages. Hmmm...will try that.
Don't have quickoffice but polaris has very few options. Almost too few.
otamctech said:
I'd like to see a r/w external sd card.
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I'd like to see that as well, but it'd probably be a kernel change, not what people here call a ROM change. Let's see, here's how it's currently mounted:
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/dev/block/vold/179:17 /mnt/sdcard/extStorages/SdCard vfat rw,dirsync,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,uid=1000,gid=1023,fmask=0002,dmask=0002,allow_utime=0020,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,utf8,errors=remount-ro 0 0
It's already mounted as read-write. The thing that's preventing normal user write access is the uid/gid combo with the fmask/dmask (not sure why samsung didn't just use a umask instead of both of the other masks.) Essentially, what that is doing is say that all the files and directories (including the root of the mount) are readable by anyone, but only writable to the "system" user, or a user in the "media_rw" group. I'm going to take a wild guess that the "camera" application, the "my files" application, and other samsung apps are in that "media_rw" group. (not sure how to check that...)
Interesting... I'm trying to remount it manually (mount -o remount,...) and while it's not giving any error, it's not working either.
I'm not sure how these "vold" mounts work, what options are valid for them, etc. It's an interesting issue, though...
All I want is a deodexed rom. Might have to break out android for dummies and learn how to.
Once we get that then let the theming begin.
Sent from my Insanity powered SGS2
Not to difficult i may give it a try soon.
deodex'ing honeycomb stuff isn't as easy as gingerbread and prior...
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deodex'ing honeycomb stuff isn't as easy as gingerbread and prior...
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I know, thats why I havent learned it yet lol.
However I am slowly figuring out theming while the rom is odexed. Got a few things going now
This device is powerful and awesome. Id love to be able to change themes and icons. The bloat ware doesn't get into the way and slow performance down. This devise will do me good for about 1 year to 1 1/2 years than ill upgrade to a new more powerful device.
this may help..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373131
I will likely wait for a clockwork recovery to start ripping stuff apart.
this is my first sammy product, wife has a cappy that I flash. nota huge fan of touchwiz but its easy on the eyes compared to my past 2 devices, dell streak 7 & 5.
Moving this to a proper forum.
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I will likely wait for a clockwork recovery to start ripping stuff apart.
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Which model do you have? GT-P6210 (wifi only), GT-P6200 (international 3G) or SGH-T869 (USA/TMobile 3G)?
There's no CWMR for the p6200 (yet), but I've already done them for the other two.
P6200 3G from malaysia. no rush, patiently waiting. Im more than willing to help with any info needed. Thank so much.
chrisrotolo said:
P6200 3G from malaysia. no rush, patiently waiting. Im more than willing to help with any info needed. Thank so much.
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Are you fluent with a shell prompt? If so, in order to attempt a CWM recovery (based on what I've already done for the p6210 and t869), please run the following two commands as root via adb shell... (and copy the resulting information)
mount
cat /proc/partitions
.. that will give me a hint as to which partition is probably your recovery partition. Send me that info IN A PM. I'll respond via PM with some more commands (based on the info you send me, I'll need you to dump a partition or two and get the images to me.)
Once I have the proper information and images, I can PROBABLY make a successful CWM recovery image (but please understand that I'll have to recompile a kernel BLIND with no possible way to test myself.)
Take care
Gary
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I should also mention that I'm going to be VERY busy over the next 3 days, so even if I get the images and all works okay, the earliest I'd be able to have a recovery would be Thursday or so.