Test N1's multitouch support with these 2 apps Hopefully supports more than 2 points! - Nexus One Themes and Apps

If somebody can test Nexus One's multi touch capability it would be great. Hopefully it supports more than 2 points!
I think these apps could be used: http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-electricsheep-mtp-pipD.aspx
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http://www.androlib.com/android.application.ten-thirty-three-simplydrawtwo-pzqi.aspx

mirox3m said:
If somebody can test Nexus One's multi touch capability it would be great. Hopefully it supports more than 2 points!
I think this apps could be used:
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Only two points with either of those applications. Also the two points seems to interfere with each other.

This isn't "multitouch" when you're seeing the 2 points interfere with each other. It's the exact same thing the Dream had in it's rom.
I think this is at an os / rom level.. (although the Dolphin browser is very smooth!) Dolphin may be using this hacky 'multitouch' though.
I'll eat my hat when I see multitouch on Android that clearly supports more than 2 fingers...! I just don't think it's in the hardware.
Prove me wrong devs! I'm only a cartoonist.

Ooh! I take it back. "Toon Warz" from polarbit games is full multitouch!
PolarBit makes some gorgeous games.. holy god!

It's definitely not the hardware.

cartoonmonkey said:
This isn't "multitouch" when you're seeing the 2 points interfere with each other. It's the exact same thing the Dream had in it's rom.
I think this is at an os / rom level.. (although the Dolphin browser is very smooth!) Dolphin may be using this hacky 'multitouch' though.
I'll eat my hat when I see multitouch on Android that clearly supports more than 2 fingers...! I just don't think it's in the hardware.
Prove me wrong devs! I'm only a cartoonist.
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As of Android 2.x, multi-touch is available at the software level and might I say executed very well in apps like Dolphin. It's available in the new 2.1 SDK (I've played with it) and should work no differently than it does on the iPhone, possibly better given the better hardware. I haven't tried these two apps but it will be nice when developers start developing MT apps.
MT is turned off by default for built-in apps like Browser and Gallery and Google apps like Gmail, Maps, etc. MT is supported out of the box outside the U.S. As soon as the source code for 2.1 is released, developers creating custom ROMs can simply switch on MT and it will be in the built-in browser and the Gallery.
People have to stop saying Android doesn't support MT because that is no longer the case. Google simply refuses to give a concrete reason it was turned off in U.S. model devices.

Aren't the google apps protected in some way from redistribution? Wouldn't it stand to reason then, that we won't see their multitouch editions? Do they even release the source for those apps?

bradsh1 said:
Aren't the google apps protected in some way from redistribution? Wouldn't it stand to reason then, that we won't see their multitouch editions? Do they even release the source for those apps?
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No, Google does not release the source code for their proprietary apps and no they cannot be redistributed (remember when Cyanogen released the 1.6 Market before Google?). Unless they are illegally distributed it is unlikely that we will see them (but I have no way to know that for certain). Besides, I personally find MT to not be of much use in the majority of apps since I use my phone with one hand and the N1 is especially too big to pinch with one hand. I'd rather double click. I can see how it could be vital to games. For example, it is currently not possible to play a NES emulator on a myTouch. There is no onscreen support and even if there was, you could not move the directional pad and click the buttons as the same time.

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[Q] Now if the Tablet Apps would catch up ...

I have an iPad2 and love it! Placed an order for E3T on Amazon .. my order is in but on the waiting list.
But I have learned one thing ... when it comes to tablets .. the key is APPS / APPS / APPS and APPS. You could have the fastest Tegra 22 Guzillion Ghz tablet ... but if there are no good apps ... its a FAIL.
So, here are some of my favorite iPad apps .. advice me on a similar or better alternative on the Android platform ...
- GoodReader
- Zite
- Tivo App
- Xfinity TV
- Note Taker HD
- Autocad WS
- houzz
- LoopNet
- Zillow.com
- Adobe Ideas
- Ameritrade App
- Bloomberg Businessweek
- Webex
Even though I ordered the E3T ... I suspect I am going to be sorely disappointed about the lack of apps on the Android platform. Yes, like they say ... the apps base will grow ... eventually ... but by then .. the E3T may become too dated.
What they (who would 'they' be) should do is to incentivize developers to build for the Android platform !
You have all the apps in the market. You don't need "tablet" apps like you do on iOS.
This explains it pretty well:
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-03/03/tablet-android-apps
I'm coming from an iPad as well.. sold it to partially fund my Transformer.
I don't regret the move at all, but there are some apps and functions I miss from the iPad.
Netflix
Aweditorium
AirVideo - or something similar to stream movies off of a Windows share over Wifi.
I like having my phone (DroidX) and tablet both be Android. Just wish a few of the apps would catch up on the Android side. They'll get there, I'm sure.
JTallon4 said:
I'm coming from an iPad as well.. sold it to partially fund my Transformer.
I don't regret the move at all, but there are some apps and functions I miss from the iPad.
Netflix
Aweditorium
AirVideo - or something similar to stream movies off of a Windows share over Wifi.
I like having my phone (DroidX) and tablet both be Android. Just wish a few of the apps would catch up on the Android side. They'll get there, I'm sure.
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Regarding AirVideo,
I was just doing some research on this and apparently theres an app called Mirage that is compatible with Air Video Server on the desktop. Check it out...
JTallon4 said:
I'm coming from an iPad as well.. sold it to partially fund my Transformer.
I don't regret the move at all, but there are some apps and functions I miss from the iPad.
Netflix
Aweditorium
AirVideo - or something similar to stream movies off of a Windows share over Wifi.
I like having my phone (DroidX) and tablet both be Android. Just wish a few of the apps would catch up on the Android side. They'll get there, I'm sure.
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If you don't mind paying a little money, PlayOn TV works fairly well with Honeycomb (use it on my Xoom) and supports local video, Netflix, Hulu (doesn't need Hulu+), and a number of other video sources. Runs a server app on a Windows PC, then streams over wifi (including remote networks) and 3G.
It's not perfect (the Android interface lacks some features, such as scrubbing), but it works in a pinch. I have a feeling PlayOn will get their Android support fixed, and they're also optimizing for tablets.
Use cifs manager to connect to windows shares. The share is mounted on your sdcard, and all of your apps treat everything in the share as if it were on the SD card. Needs root. If you don't have root, try upnplay, use windows media player to stream over upnp.
pretty sure myNet detects shared drives
scion676 said:
Regarding AirVideo,
I was just doing some research on this and apparently theres an app called Mirage that is compatible with Air Video Server on the desktop. Check it out...
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Excellent! Thank you. Performance suffers on it some, at least with my files but its a Beta, so hopefully it will improve.
It at least works, which is more than anything else I've tried.
I'll try the other suggestions as well. Thanks, all!
Hakizi said:
You have all the apps in the market. You don't need "tablet" apps like you do on iOS.
This explains it pretty well:
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-03/03/tablet-android-apps
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Android apps scale and look fine, but I'd like for more that take advantage of HC, and especially the increased resolution. You do need tablet apps to take advantage of the benefits of having a tablet.
Well the Asus Transformer has the following out of the box - no app download needed.
Polaris Office
Office Docs ->as well as Google Docs / Box.net connectivity. Works nicely
Asus Mynet
Basically lets you reach out and grab data from any DLNA device (Windows PC Windows Media, Mac, etc etc)
MyCloud
Allows for cloud support without having to download Dropbox (ALthough Dropbox works fine)
http://eee.asus.com/eeepad/
Social Networking apps Facebook, Twitter Int.
This is built in, you can sync contacts with Facebook, etc. Unfortunately Facebook STILL HAS NOT released an app for Facebook on the iPad, I have one of those too.
PressReader
Allows reading of tons of Newspapers and media items (built in, and still there are other apps that do this in the market and built to work fine with Honeycomb)
Add-On Apps
Sling TV
Works just fine on my Transformer and my Samsung Vibrant
Pulse News Reader
Reads all my websites and links to my Google Reader account.
Webex
Not to long ago released and works fine on the Transformer and my Android handset.
Stuff I wish were on Honeycomb
Flipboard
Netflix
Hulu
zinio
Thanks guys ... I will check out the apps. But the wait for the e3t continues.
raerae28 said:
Webex
Not to long ago released and works fine on the Transformer
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Webex on the market says it's not compatible with the transformer. How did you get it to work?
1000's of apps work with honeycomb it was just steve jobs *****ing out of his asss just like he always does about any competitor.
It's lack rss feeder widgets that did it for me (although being an ipad user you wouldn't know what a widget is) what's an android widget
vulcan195 said:
Thanks guys ... I will check out the apps. But the wait for the e3t continues.
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What's the e3t? Lol
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I posted this on another thread, but relevant here so I thought i'd post it again. This is the unofficial 'official' list of Honeycomb-optimised apps compiled by a forum member over at Android Central. New apps are being added all the time...
http://forum.androidcentral.com/mot...al-optimized-honeycomb-apps-list-n-155-a.html
vulcan195 said:
I have an iPad2 and love it! Placed an order for E3T on Amazon .. my order is in but on the waiting list.
But I have learned one thing ... when it comes to tablets .. the key is APPS / APPS / APPS and APPS. You could have the fastest Tegra 22 Guzillion Ghz tablet ... but if there are no good apps ... its a FAIL.
So, here are some of my favorite iPad apps .. advice me on a similar or better alternative on the Android platform ...
- GoodReader
- Zite
- Tivo App
- Xfinity TV
- Note Taker HD
- Autocad WS
- houzz
- LoopNet
- Zillow.com
- Adobe Ideas
- Ameritrade App
- Bloomberg Businessweek
- Webex
Even though I ordered the E3T ... I suspect I am going to be sorely disappointed about the lack of apps on the Android platform. Yes, like they say ... the apps base will grow ... eventually ... but by then .. the E3T may become too dated.
What they (who would 'they' be) should do is to incentivize developers to build for the Android platform !
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IMHO if you're concerned about apps, I would wait. You already have an iPad 2 so technically you don't NEED another tablet. You're absolutely right, Apps are the key to unlocking the function and purpose of these things and as of now Honeycomb tablets are behind. People will tell you that Android apps scale well and that's true ~50% of the time in my experience.
As just a quick statistical example, I'm running 245 apps on my phone (including games, 728MB total), I'm running 119 apps on my tablet (267MB total) - not because I don't want them all, but because the rest either don't work (games don't port well from 2.2 to 3.0 at all, and by that I mean half of mine don't run) or don't scale well and show up in a phone sized portion of the screen. This is definitely due to honeycomb, as these same apps and games scaled wonderfully in Froyo to my GTablet.
So since you love the iPad 2, which is definitely more mature hardware and especially software-wise, I'd consider Honeycomb the Cupcake version of Android for Tablets - essentially the v.1 public beta test and either hold off or go in understanding exactly what you're getting.
I mean if you feel like this " ... I suspect I am going to be sorely disappointed about the lack of apps on the Android platform. Yes, like they say ... the apps base will grow ... eventually ... but by then .. the E3T may become too dated." right now then all you're going to do is be full of regret because yes, you will be disappointed, especially comparing it to the iPad 2. The apps will come there's 0 doubt in my mind about that, but you're exactly right by the time they do come in full force to match the entire market, the current batch of tabs will be 'stale'.
Unlike Apple hardware, Android hardware has to be on it's toes, there's a lot of competition in the market and each brand has to come out with something 'better' to attract buyers constantly. In the blink of an eye there will be triple and quad core cpu offerings, more RAM stuffed in, better screens, better cameras, more storage all for the same price that you're getting the current device at. That's the blessing (and curse?) of freedom and choice. With the iPad 2 you have something with excellent software-base but you're at the mercy of Apple to release new hardware and that's generally once a year.
So yeah, my point is that in the end you can either wait until Honeycomb has matured as Android for phones has, and THEN invest in a tablet and get apps to your hearts content (and have no regrets!) OR you can buy now and enjoy it for what it is. You may not get every app you get on the iPad 2 currently for it (which I can't see the point in, anyway) but you'll be getting a platform where many of the apps are free (ad supported), the hardware is better (faster and more powerful, at the very least) and where you're free to source your media from a variety of places, vs. just Apple and iTunes.
As for the apps themselves, I suggest you head to market.android.com and look up the names of those apps or their function, in order to help you find alternatives in case they aren't there.
Neoprimal said:
So since you love the iPad 2, which is definitely more mature hardware and especially software-wise, I'd consider Honeycomb the Cupcake version of Android for Tablets - essentially the v.1 public beta test and either hold off or go in understanding exactly what you're getting.
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While I understand the comparison, I think the difference here is that Android is now an accepted player in the market. When Cupcake came out, noone had a clue whether Google was going to be successful with their OS and so developers held off creating apps for it. I don't think the uptake will be so slow on the tablet front. Despite the relatively lacklustre sales of the early Android tablets, developers know that it will become popular down the line and the quicker they get their app onto the market, the better chance it will have to establish itself as the ________ app for Android tablets (fill in the blank here, Twitter, Facebook, Office etc). Honestly, I think it will be a matter of weeks rather than months before we start seeing Honeycomb-optimised apps in all the major categories.
It may make sense to wait for the quad-core tablets just around the corner, but by then they will have announced the octo(?)-core tablets coming in just a few short months and you will have to put off your purchase again. In technology there is always something better just around the corner...
husker91 said:
What's the e3t? Lol
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eee transformer (get it e3?)
yea, took me a sec to figure it out too, lol.
Anyone having issues with the xda app with their tablet? Mine FCs when I try to go to settings
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Android Market is Horrible

As a new Asus Transformer owner and first time Android Market customer I have to say that I am utterly disappointed with the current state of the Android Market. The android market ap is a joke. The website is a little better, but desperately needs a better way to filer aps by tablet/non-tablet or hd/sd aps.
There is no legitimate reason that the market couldn't have a specific section dedicated solely to tablets. Or at least better filter/sort functions that allow you to filter in a more effective way. I was going to post a list of what is bad about the marketplace, but there is just too much. I'm sure that everyone who owns a honeycomb tablet is well familiar with the problem(s) by now. Anyway, just wanted to vent. /rant
Use appbrain (google it), it's much nicer and lets you filter your search.
see here for compatible tablet apps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032381
el_brio said:
As a new Asus Transformer owner and first time Android Market customer I have to say that I am utterly disappointed with the current state of the Android Market. The android market ap is a joke. The website is a little better, but desperately needs a better way to filer aps by tablet/non-tablet or hd/sd aps.
There is no legitimate reason that the market couldn't have a specific section dedicated solely to tablets. Or at least better filter/sort functions that allow you to filter in a more effective way. I was going to post a list of what is bad about the marketplace, but there is just too much. I'm sure that everyone who owns a honeycomb tablet is well familiar with the problem(s) by now. Anyway, just wanted to vent. /rant
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There actually sholdnt be a tabletsection at all. If a dev programs oroperly their app will work fine on any size screen. Thats the benefit of the way the xml layout in the sdk work. Locations all become relative. You say x is next to y andbelow z. Then let the device sort it out.
crater said:
There actually sholdnt be a tabletsection at all. If a dev programs oroperly their app will work fine on any size screen. Thats the benefit of the way the xml layout in the sdk work. Locations all become relative. You say x is next to y andbelow z. Then let the device sort it out.
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Not necessarily true, especially as Honeycomb introduces new layout elements that many app developers want to and should take advantage of to make their apps more tablet friendly. It might still all end up in the same APK in the end, but the developer still should do some tablet specific work to make it more user friendly. It would still be nice to know which APKs have been "tablet-optimized".
They do have a "Featured Tablet Apps" section, which as far as I can tell is just a list of all/most of the APKs that have been optimized for tablets.
I thought some of these issues were fixed with 3.1 according to xoom owners.
I think it's because they don't want people to see how few apps there are optimised for tablets.
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I think it's because they don't want people to see how few apps there are optimised for tablets.
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+1 internets
I agree
There should be a tablet filter. Even amazon apps suck at it. I download some apps and it FC on me.
You say all apps should work on tablet? Well that's not the case for many apps so there should be some kind of distinction. But, I hear some problems will be fixed in 3.1.
The pop down add won't be popping down anymore, it will just be there when you open it up, more catagories, and when you view an app and go back, it suppose to remember your location.
Be nice to be able to add reviews, but I didn't hear anything about that.
as a poor uesr from china pr
i need an app like market access lol
No no no... there is nothing about an Android app that says "I'm a tablet app" unless it just happens to be written for _only_ the Gingerbread API level (and that will be false the second the next version of Android comes out) which is pretty bad practice.
Using 3.0 classes is possible via reflection while remaining compatible back to 1.6, given that you can have a specific layout for x-large screens you can use 3.0 layout elements there even if your app targets a lower API level. Fragments are available all the way back to 1.6 now.
There is no "Tablet version" switch to detect, nor should there be.
It is up to the devs themselves to support the use cases they want to target, not specific devices, with freedom comes responsibility.
there should't be a tablet filter..android is different from iOS in terms of the layout design and ideally all apps should just run just fine on hc.
I remember reading that Google were going to put extra layers/levels into the current market to provide better touch browse/navigation - which might be nice.
But I don't really have any problems with the current one and the other sites do a good job at simplifying searches anyway.
It will never please everybody, but will continue to get better I am sure.
magicpork said:
there should't be a tablet filter..android is different from iOS in terms of the layout design and ideally all apps should just run just fine on hc.
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It's not whether or not they run fine, it's whether or not they are optimized for a tablet, like the CNN app. So I agree, a filter for apps that are tablet-optimized is a must. Until then, I just rely on the Featured Tablet Apps to see if anything new has been added.
magicpork said:
there should't be a tablet filter..android is different from iOS in terms of the layout design and ideally all apps should just run just fine on hc.
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yes ideally they should, but theyre phone apps. When they do work correctly, they just stretch. Everybody makes of the ipad saying its a giant ipod touch, but the apps that are optimized for it look amazing. So yes there should be a tablet filter.

[Q] Google chrome web browser patch for the hp touchpad

Is it possible that someone can make a patch for the hp touchpad that will give you the google chrome web browser instead of stock browser?
lovenokia said:
Is it possible that someone can make a patch for the hp touchpad that will give you the google chrome web browser instead of stock browser?
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If you want to use chromeon your touchpad, install Ubuntu on it. There is a guide to install it in Hp touchpad section.
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If you want to use chromeon your touchpad, install Ubuntu on it. There is a guide to install it in Hp touchpad section.
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I am aware of that, but i was wondering if some could have the same Chrome on your computer be on the touchpad with those tabs and hopefully the same browsing speed, I pretty much just don't want stock browser anymore.
lovenokia said:
I am aware of that, but i was wondering if some could have the same Chrome on your computer be on the touchpad with those tabs and hopefully the same browsing speed, I pretty much just don't want stock browser anymore.
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Sorry mate but for now u only have one option: advanced browser that allow tabs. But that is also functionality wise more or less same as stock browser.
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Sorry mate but for now u only have one option: advanced browser that allow tabs. But that is also functionality wise more or less same as stock browser.
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I want to suggest to someone to make such a patch. Is this the place i should suggest it or go to pre central.
lovenokia said:
I want to suggest to someone to make such a patch. Is this the place i should suggest it or go to pre central.
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Precentral is the place to ask for a patch. But many users already have reported about this many times.....
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lovleshgarg said:
Precentral is the place to ask for a patch. But many users already have reported about this many times.....
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I thought xda developers and the best devs that i why i came here and asked and it looks like i have no luck no i will try my luck in pre central
lovenokia said:
I thought xda developers and the best devs that i why i came here and asked and it looks like i have no luck no i will try my luck in pre central
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for android and windows phone. Afaik this is the first webos device on this forum.
SH4YD33 said:
for android and windows phone. Afaik this is the first palm device on this forum.
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well xda-dev better have some good some cooking for when i will get my nokia windows phone
Y don't u learn yourself and not expect others to meet your needs
lovenokia said:
well xda-dev better have some good some cooking for when i will get my nokia windows phone
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mattmiller said:
Y don't u learn yourself and not expect others to meet your needs
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I would if i knew but i don't know how to do this stuff i am willing to learn if one will teach me.
Go to youtube and search and google and ask other devs to point u the right way...not hard
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Go to youtube and search and google and ask other devs to point u the right way...not hard
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well i obiously posted of what i was looking for and i got the wrong answer, all i got was the chromium in ubuntu which i wasnt looking for.
Even if you could get the sources to compile into something that produces a browser window on the TouchPad, it still wouldn't yield a very pleasant experience. Those sources are for a desktop browser, not a tablet/touch browser. All of the touch-based interaction and gestures you expect on a tablet wouldn't be present, and the UI would be set up for a mouse and keyboard.
Obviously it's possible to change/extend the app for a better tablet experience--the Mozilla guys have done exactly that with Firefox on Android--but it's a HUGE undertaking!
What would be a more realistic goal is trying to figure out what you're missing from Chrome in the TouchPad's browser and try to build a new shell around that browser core similar to Advanced Browser on webOS, Dolphin/Miren on Android, and PerfectBrowser/Atomic Web on iOS. All of these browsers use Webkit as the core rendering engine so the rendered page should be very similar. It's more about the features offered by the browser shell. If your goal is to support Chrome plugins, you're probably SOL, so it's best to decide what are the concrete must-have features that are missing (tabs, form field completion, etc.).
Once the Android port is ready for prime-time, you might just consider moving over to Android and installing either Dolphin or Firefox. Both have many of the features expected from the desktop versions including pretty extensive plugin/extension libraries.
I imagine this response isn't terribly helpful other than in an educational sense, but I hope it helps a bit...
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Even if you could get the sources to compile into something that produces a browser window on the TouchPad, it still wouldn't yield a very pleasant experience. Those sources are for a desktop browser, not a tablet/touch browser. All of the touch-based interaction and gestures you expect on a tablet wouldn't be present, and the UI would be set up for a mouse and keyboard.
Obviously it's possible to change/extend the app for a better tablet experience--the Mozilla guys have done exactly that with Firefox on Android--but it's a HUGE undertaking!
What would be a more realistic goal is trying to figure out what you're missing from Chrome in the TouchPad's browser and try to build a new shell around that browser core similar to Advanced Browser on webOS, Dolphin/Miren on Android, and PerfectBrowser/Atomic Web on iOS. All of these browsers use Webkit as the core rendering engine so the rendered page should be very similar. It's more about the features offered by the browser shell. If your goal is to support Chrome plugins, you're probably SOL, so it's best to decide what are the concrete must-have features that are missing (tabs, form field completion, etc.).
Once the Android port is ready for prime-time, you might just consider moving over to Android and installing either Dolphin or Firefox. Both have many of the features expected from the desktop versions including pretty extensive plugin/extension libraries.
I imagine this response isn't terribly helpful other than in an educational sense, but I hope it helps a bit...
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thanks at least i get an idea, so does this mean i have to wait for team touchdroid to get android apps rolling and then just download firefox or dolphin.
lovenokia said:
thanks at least i get an idea, so does this mean i have to wait for team touchdroid to get android apps rolling and then just download firefox or dolphin.
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Well, there are two efforts underway, the primary one to get Android going on the TouchPad hardware, but that's instead of webOS (at least in terms of which OS is running at any given time; they're trying to allow dual-boot so you can switch between them during reboot). In that case, you'd just have an Android tablet with Android apps.
The other effort is to try to get Android's Dalvik VM (virtual machine) going under webOS so that you can run Android apps under webOS. This is the approach taken by RIM with the Blackberry Playbook. Obviously that's a much trickier proposition, and some apps reach around the Dalvik VM into the native Android/Linux APIs. I'm not sure how those fit in with the second approach.
Anyway, neither of these will be ready for prime-time for a while, so for now my best advice is to echo what others have said and recommend you buy Advanced Browser. You'll get a tabbed UI, saved passwords (and form fields, I think), etc. It's not quite what you want, but it's the closest you'll get for some indeterminate period of time.
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Well, there are two efforts underway, the primary one to get Android going on the TouchPad hardware, but that's instead of webOS (at least in terms of which OS is running at any given time; they're trying to allow dual-boot so you can switch between them during reboot). In that case, you'd just have an Android tablet with Android apps.
The other effort is to try to get Android's Dalvik VM (virtual machine) going under webOS so that you can run Android apps under webOS. This is the approach taken by RIM with the Blackberry Playbook. Obviously that's a much trickier proposition, and some apps reach around the Dalvik VM into the native Android/Linux APIs. I'm not sure how those fit in with the second approach.
Anyway, neither of these will be ready for prime-time for a while, so for now my best advice is to echo what others have said and recommend you buy Advanced Browser. You'll get a tabbed UI, saved passwords (and form fields, I think), etc. It's not quite what you want, but it's the closest you'll get for some indeterminate period of time.
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Well i want to keep the webos but your saying that you are not sure how porting apps from android to webos will be for the web browser.
lovenokia said:
Well i want to keep the webos but your saying that you are not sure how porting apps from android to webos will be for the web browser.
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I can't see anyone porting Android browsers such as Dolphin over to webOS, and while it looks like there have been efforts to build Firefox for webOS, it doesn't look like any of them are ready for prime-time. The second of the two options I cited above involves hosting Android apps in webOS directly by implementing a Dalvik VM for webOS. Again, there are folks working on that, but my take is that it has WAY less momentum than the efforts to get Android itself running on the TouchPad hardware, i.e., basically converting the TouchPad from a webOS tablet into an Android tablet.
It's also questionable how well Android apps would run in a Dalvik VM/webOS environment. I know that RIM Playbook's commercial implementation of the same thing requires developers to make some set of changes to their Android apps for them to work on the Playbook, so it's not just a matter of putting a Dalvik VM on webOS, installing the Android Market, and then installing all of the Android apps you want (though that would be SWEET!).
So in summary, right now you would do best to see if Advanced Browser closes the functionality gap enough to keep you happy. For the some indeterminate period of time, it's probably the best option you're going to find.
Of course right after I say something about Dolphin not being ported, it shows up for iOS:
http://www.dolphin-browser.com/
Maybe you should appeal to them to release a version for webOS!
UPDATE: I just sent them a message asking if they'd consider a build for webOS based on that browser component since obviously they can get it working on both the Android and iOS browser components. I don't expect anything to happen, but never hurts to ask.

GTA III works flaswlessy on Tablet

All you have to do is purchase on phone and sideload it, it will let you download data directly from tablet, at 1mb per second, it took about 7 mins for the whole process, 400mb download and data install. Go buy now, best 5 bucks ever spent.
Ps. I bought using my evo 3d, which also runs the game perfectly.
Edit: before you start asking, how to sideload it:
Dropbox, gmail, titanium backup, blue-tooth, etc. It also verifys market, so make sure you buy it.
excellent news, I did download the app, but got error parsing package message. Also says incompatible with my p6200, lets hope for the best for us 3g guys.
chrisrotolo said:
excellent news, I did download the app, but got error parsing package message. Also says incompatible with my p6200, lets hope for the best for us 3g guys.
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Try downloading with phone, then sideload it. It should work since it works for dell streak, even though it is android 2.3, it is a 7 inch tablet. It worked on my SGT7+ wifi, it should work on Tmobile. Just make sure you purchase it.
Downloaded but seeing quite a bit of lagg. Replacing user data files with GSII files now hoping that they will fix it
Which version do you have? Wifi or 3g? Also did you just sideload apk, and download data from tab, or copy both. Mine has no lag whatsoever with the data download directly to tab. I also have no lag with the data downloaded from my evo 3d. They both work perfectly. I also recommend using the analog steering and driving controls.
I sideloaded the .apk and let it download, had lag, so I replaced the data files with ones for the GSII from a site I found. No lagg now, just had to reset the controls as it aligned them for the S2's resolution. I don't have another Android device so I had to go the less legal route to get the APK, but I have bought the game on the iPad so I don't feel bad about it. Thumbs down to Rockstar for not having the compatibility in order
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I sideloaded the .apk and let it download, had lag, so I replaced the data files with ones for the GSII from a site I found. No lagg now, just had to reset the controls as it aligned them for the S2's resolution. I don't have another Android device so I had to go the less legal route to get the APK, but I have bought the game on the iPad so I don't feel bad about it. Thumbs down to Rockstar for not having the compatibility in order
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Come one bro, dont include those details, as it can get you booted.
Also what type of lag were you referring to?
FPS issues in the entire game, basically. Driving around was very laggy and basically unplayable
The game is great and works better on 7 inches than the 10 inch iPad imho... just hope rockstar gets a grip and fixes compatibility settings. As a new Android user I can't even begin to express how utterly idiotic this issue with erroneous compatibility blocks is
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FPS issues in the entire game, basically. Driving around was very laggy and basically unplayable
The game is great and works better on 7 inches than the 10 inch iPad imho... just hope rockstar gets a grip and fixes compatibility settings. As a new Android user I can't even begin to express how utterly idiotic this issue with erroneous compatibility blocks is
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Oh ok, mine still seems very responsive, Ill try other data file from other phones i have. Ill post results later. Yup, thats the problem with android fragmentation, but either way any android phone beats an iphone.
No...it doesn't. Believing that is just pure bias as there is no, and probably never will be, an OS that beats the other on everything. That's why I have one of each.
Youre still very new to this community, give it some time, to the infite modifications and freedom android gives you.
Customizing something all the way to Mars is nice, but still doesn't make up for lack of apps. I've been using the iPad in ways that physically aren't possible on Android because of the lack of certain apps and types of apps
give me an example and Ill try to tell which apps are available. I have over 400 apps installed. I go thru the apple catalog and I only see nonsense apps, or social apps, how many of those do you need. But its true there are more apps, but almost all are already in android. Maybe not the market but getjar, amazon market, appbrain and more.
Ok, here's a challenge for you, and if you do manage to find an app, you will be my hero:
One of my most used apps on the iPad is a certain type of note taking app. I say a certain type rather than a specific app as there are quite literally dozens of these available on iOS now. This type of app will let me import documents - minimum requirement is PDF, but more types is better - and write on top of them. So far Android has alternative. Then you get to the most important feature, magnification mode. The way this works in all of said dozen apps is that you have a window at the bottom of the screen that shows a small portion of the screen magnified. This allows you to write big letters and have it be shrunk down. These boxes are resizable and can be set for various zoom levels. They also have auto-advance, meaning that when you get to the end of the box it automatically moves it so you just write from the beginning again. This way you can write sentence upon sentence just as you would on paper, and just as accurately, even with a normal capacitive stylus. Other features that are often in these apps include the ability to insert images, machine text, web clips, audio recordings etc. You will also need to have the ability to export PDF. There are apps on android that can annotate PDF, but not at that level. All semester I've been using the iPad and nothing but the iPad both in lectures and outside, scanning paper documents using Scanner Pro and an external camera, annotating them (this is why just text editing is useless - I need to be able to have 100% control over size, placement, angle etc of the text on a page, underline and make arrows and drawings all over the place, not just write some text down) and storing them for reading. Just had an exam with 900 pages worth of curriculum and notes, all read on the iPad, and created on the iPad to begin with in the case of notes.
That kind of app in particular is crucial, and it has to be able to do exactly what I mention here, no "almost" with missing the magnification mode etc. They even provided all the lecturers with iPads this fall, and they've been using the same types of apps connected to projectors via VGA (try finding a VGA adapter for the galaxy tab, btw ).
This is just the ultimate example though, as it's not only the type of app I've used the most, but it's an app that is 100% productivity. No widgets, games or anything like that - it's a productivity issue, and an issue for Android's usability in settings outside of people who like to watch videos and play with ADWlauncher (which also includes me in my spare time, hence why I have an Android tablet).
Other examples off the top of my head: Splashtop's secondary product, xDisplay. It doesnt exist on Android (yet), and it's an example of an app where I don't care if there are "similar products" - it's the system I'm invested in and missing apps from major services like that is an issue. I could also bring up apps that have some sort of equivalent, but far from anything that works as good. Goodreader on the iPad -> ezPDF on Android, much less powerful app. Scanner Pro -> CamScanner, same thing, and they even broke 7.0 plus compatibility in the last update. There's no direct access app for the educational system my school uses, Classfronter, which isn't really an issue due to browser access but still an issue as it's slower. No good alternative to Reeder either, not that I've found anyways.
Education in itself is an interesting field. There are so many apps that make the iPad a powerful tool for both teachers and students on iOS. How about the ability to annotate documents wirelessly using Syncpad, an app that streams the image on screen to any HTML5 browser that's connected to the internet (not just local wifi)? Used that one a lot. Replaynote, letting you do notes and commentary and have it automatically turned into a video that you can send off to help people. Dictionary apps; when you study ENglish like I do, "a dictionary" isn't enough. You need as many as possible. That's iOS, not android.
Enough productivity. Fun apps. BBE's app has brought a music enhancement technology, that so far has only been licensed to Cowon for portable use, to iOS. There's no comparison to EQs in apps like Poweramp. Flipboard, awesome RSS reader that I use instead of Reeder when I want to relax, not read feeds for work. Tried Pulse, not the same, or even close. Neither is Currents. Zinio is luckily on both OSes though there are several magazines that are only available through Newsstand. Connecting the iPad to a synthesizer via USB and playing around with it on an amateur level is always fun.
Enough examples.
I love my 7.0 Plus. I love how personal the homescreen is after tweaking it, Google Talk on it is awesome, it's the device I reach for to check email in the morning, I love using a Wiimote for games, i use it as a mouse and keyboard for my PC in bed, remote control utorrent, browse the web, as a flashlight at night (LOVE that), video support makes me weep tears of joy, read books that aren't scanned A4 documents (and hence possible to reformat for 7 inches) etc. It's a great device, which is why I have it. However it isn't perfect. There's plenty of room for both OSes in my life, for the exact reason that neither is perfect.
Repligo reader for first, lets you write on top of pdf files (shapes, text,highlight, selections,w/e), I use it in class alot, but also lean to quick office since I just use camera to copy what i dont feel like typing.
Currents instead of pulse, much better. Also with repligo everything should be capable to be done, what ios app are you refering to which can do all that.
splashtop is on android also.
I think I answered what you needed, to long to read over again, while trying to study for nueuro final.
How did you get the GTA apk to your Tab? I tried AppInstaller, but I get an "access denied" error when I try to export it?
*edit* Nevermind. I was able to get the apk using Root Explorer. Can't wait to fire it up!
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How did you get the GTA apk to your Tab? I tried AppInstaller, but I get an "access denied" error when I try to export it?
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you need root, and you can use root explorer to copy, to sd card. Make sure you click on r/w to be able to write and copy.

Apps other than Entertainment on the Nexus Player

As the title states, do you guys think it is wise to develop an application for the Nexus Player if Google isn't going to allow apps other than games and entertainment (no truth behind the statement, just looking at the play store as it stands)? I have a couple of apps that I have been currently working on and I believe they would work well with the player in the home. Just a thought, have any insightful ideas of what you may want the Player to do?
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As the title states, do you guys think it is wise to develop an application for the Nexus Player if Google isn't going to allow apps other than games and entertainment (no truth behind the statement, just looking at the play store as it stands)? I have a couple of apps that I have been currently working on and I believe they would work well with the player in the home. Just a thought, have any insightful ideas of what you may want the Player to do?
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Great thing about android compared to most other systems, you can basically do what you want. I definitely see a lot of useful non-entertainment apps on a system such as this. The Xbox-Playstation interfaces give some good ideas about integrating social media into the living-room, but well beyond that as well. Cooking apps, Do-it-yourself apps, Kahn acadamy, World Science U, etc, etc. The system is ripe for growth in the app department.
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Great thing about android compared to most other systems, you can basically do what you want. I definitely see a lot of useful non-entertainment apps on a system such as this. The Xbox-Playstation interfaces give some good ideas about integrating social media into the living-room, but well beyond that as well. Cooking apps, Do-it-yourself apps, Kahn acadamy, World Science U, etc, etc. The system is ripe for growth in the app department.
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I agree, I guess only time will tell when the "Play Store with Nexus Player" updates to more than limited selections that we currently at the moment.
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I agree, I guess only time will tell when the "Play Store with Nexus Player" updates to more than limited selections that we currently at the moment.
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I'd assume they'll expand the leanback interface as time moves on. But, again, a great strength of android on the tv is you don't have to stick to what Google gives you. I have no doubt other launchers will be adapted or created in short order, from Nova, etc. It'll be interesting to see how Google handles the visibility of alternative launchers considering how tight they've integrated search in the existing leanback and, I assume, want to preserve that built-in advantage. Unlike other systems like the Roku, AppleTV or even FireTV, however, being based on android means the end user will always have other relatively easily installed choices.
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I'd assume they'll expand the leanback interface as time moves on. But, again, a great strength of android on the tv is you don't have to stick to what Google gives you. I have no doubt other launchers will be adapted or created in short order, from Nova, etc. It'll be interesting to see how Google handles the visibility of alternative launchers considering how tight they've integrated search in the existing leanback and, I assume, want to preserve that built-in advantage. Unlike other systems like the Roku, AppleTV or even FireTV, however, being based on android means the end user will always have other relatively easily installed choices.
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Yea I figure they are going to keep this environment very closed and tight knit for some time. I read somewhere, where they are individually reviewing each app as it has to meet a certain criteria. This is good for a couple of reasons, I hated how Google TV apps work so poorly or never worked at all. Also, this will allow the users to add an app to their "custom" environment like a nova launcher. Only time will tell. Enjoyed this convo, look forward to hanging out with this community.
hulu plus app
Can anybody grab hulu plus app apk file and send link over here, so that non US users can install that.
Thanks
bobbyd-nexus said:
Can anybody grab hulu plus app apk file and send link over here, so that non US users can install that.
Thanks
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You can find the latest apk's for most of the more well known publishers from apkmirror.com. For Hulu in particular:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/hulu/
There are other apk downloading services you can find through google for a wider variety of apks as well.
Good luck.
Bluetooth Keyboard and mouse (or wired over OTG) and google docs or some other cloudbased office. I don't see why not use it like a miniPC.
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Bluetooth Keyboard and mouse (or wired over OTG) and google docs or some other cloudbased office. I don't see why not use it like a miniPC.
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To be honest, I feel like if its done right, the possibility is honestly there.
I think if you're using it primarily as an entertainment device, you might not want business apps or document apps on there; for example, I don't mind that anyone in the house can pick up the remote and watch Netflix or listen to my Google Play Music, but it's probably for the best there's not a Facebook or Gmail app on it.
However, if you intended to use it just as a mini PC, you'd want those.

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