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[Q] Now if the Tablet Apps would catch up ...

I have an iPad2 and love it! Placed an order for E3T on Amazon .. my order is in but on the waiting list.
But I have learned one thing ... when it comes to tablets .. the key is APPS / APPS / APPS and APPS. You could have the fastest Tegra 22 Guzillion Ghz tablet ... but if there are no good apps ... its a FAIL.
So, here are some of my favorite iPad apps .. advice me on a similar or better alternative on the Android platform ...
- GoodReader
- Zite
- Tivo App
- Xfinity TV
- Note Taker HD
- Autocad WS
- houzz
- LoopNet
- Zillow.com
- Adobe Ideas
- Ameritrade App
- Bloomberg Businessweek
- Webex
Even though I ordered the E3T ... I suspect I am going to be sorely disappointed about the lack of apps on the Android platform. Yes, like they say ... the apps base will grow ... eventually ... but by then .. the E3T may become too dated.
What they (who would 'they' be) should do is to incentivize developers to build for the Android platform !

You have all the apps in the market. You don't need "tablet" apps like you do on iOS.
This explains it pretty well:
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-03/03/tablet-android-apps

I'm coming from an iPad as well.. sold it to partially fund my Transformer.
I don't regret the move at all, but there are some apps and functions I miss from the iPad.
Netflix
Aweditorium
AirVideo - or something similar to stream movies off of a Windows share over Wifi.
I like having my phone (DroidX) and tablet both be Android. Just wish a few of the apps would catch up on the Android side. They'll get there, I'm sure.

JTallon4 said:
I'm coming from an iPad as well.. sold it to partially fund my Transformer.
I don't regret the move at all, but there are some apps and functions I miss from the iPad.
Netflix
Aweditorium
AirVideo - or something similar to stream movies off of a Windows share over Wifi.
I like having my phone (DroidX) and tablet both be Android. Just wish a few of the apps would catch up on the Android side. They'll get there, I'm sure.
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Regarding AirVideo,
I was just doing some research on this and apparently theres an app called Mirage that is compatible with Air Video Server on the desktop. Check it out...

JTallon4 said:
I'm coming from an iPad as well.. sold it to partially fund my Transformer.
I don't regret the move at all, but there are some apps and functions I miss from the iPad.
Netflix
Aweditorium
AirVideo - or something similar to stream movies off of a Windows share over Wifi.
I like having my phone (DroidX) and tablet both be Android. Just wish a few of the apps would catch up on the Android side. They'll get there, I'm sure.
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If you don't mind paying a little money, PlayOn TV works fairly well with Honeycomb (use it on my Xoom) and supports local video, Netflix, Hulu (doesn't need Hulu+), and a number of other video sources. Runs a server app on a Windows PC, then streams over wifi (including remote networks) and 3G.
It's not perfect (the Android interface lacks some features, such as scrubbing), but it works in a pinch. I have a feeling PlayOn will get their Android support fixed, and they're also optimizing for tablets.

Use cifs manager to connect to windows shares. The share is mounted on your sdcard, and all of your apps treat everything in the share as if it were on the SD card. Needs root. If you don't have root, try upnplay, use windows media player to stream over upnp.

pretty sure myNet detects shared drives

scion676 said:
Regarding AirVideo,
I was just doing some research on this and apparently theres an app called Mirage that is compatible with Air Video Server on the desktop. Check it out...
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Excellent! Thank you. Performance suffers on it some, at least with my files but its a Beta, so hopefully it will improve.
It at least works, which is more than anything else I've tried.
I'll try the other suggestions as well. Thanks, all!

Hakizi said:
You have all the apps in the market. You don't need "tablet" apps like you do on iOS.
This explains it pretty well:
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-03/03/tablet-android-apps
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Android apps scale and look fine, but I'd like for more that take advantage of HC, and especially the increased resolution. You do need tablet apps to take advantage of the benefits of having a tablet.

Well the Asus Transformer has the following out of the box - no app download needed.
Polaris Office
Office Docs ->as well as Google Docs / Box.net connectivity. Works nicely
Asus Mynet
Basically lets you reach out and grab data from any DLNA device (Windows PC Windows Media, Mac, etc etc)
MyCloud
Allows for cloud support without having to download Dropbox (ALthough Dropbox works fine)
http://eee.asus.com/eeepad/
Social Networking apps Facebook, Twitter Int.
This is built in, you can sync contacts with Facebook, etc. Unfortunately Facebook STILL HAS NOT released an app for Facebook on the iPad, I have one of those too.
PressReader
Allows reading of tons of Newspapers and media items (built in, and still there are other apps that do this in the market and built to work fine with Honeycomb)
Add-On Apps
Sling TV
Works just fine on my Transformer and my Samsung Vibrant
Pulse News Reader
Reads all my websites and links to my Google Reader account.
Webex
Not to long ago released and works fine on the Transformer and my Android handset.
Stuff I wish were on Honeycomb
Flipboard
Netflix
Hulu
zinio

Thanks guys ... I will check out the apps. But the wait for the e3t continues.

raerae28 said:
Webex
Not to long ago released and works fine on the Transformer
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Webex on the market says it's not compatible with the transformer. How did you get it to work?

1000's of apps work with honeycomb it was just steve jobs *****ing out of his asss just like he always does about any competitor.
It's lack rss feeder widgets that did it for me (although being an ipad user you wouldn't know what a widget is) what's an android widget

vulcan195 said:
Thanks guys ... I will check out the apps. But the wait for the e3t continues.
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What's the e3t? Lol
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I posted this on another thread, but relevant here so I thought i'd post it again. This is the unofficial 'official' list of Honeycomb-optimised apps compiled by a forum member over at Android Central. New apps are being added all the time...
http://forum.androidcentral.com/mot...al-optimized-honeycomb-apps-list-n-155-a.html

vulcan195 said:
I have an iPad2 and love it! Placed an order for E3T on Amazon .. my order is in but on the waiting list.
But I have learned one thing ... when it comes to tablets .. the key is APPS / APPS / APPS and APPS. You could have the fastest Tegra 22 Guzillion Ghz tablet ... but if there are no good apps ... its a FAIL.
So, here are some of my favorite iPad apps .. advice me on a similar or better alternative on the Android platform ...
- GoodReader
- Zite
- Tivo App
- Xfinity TV
- Note Taker HD
- Autocad WS
- houzz
- LoopNet
- Zillow.com
- Adobe Ideas
- Ameritrade App
- Bloomberg Businessweek
- Webex
Even though I ordered the E3T ... I suspect I am going to be sorely disappointed about the lack of apps on the Android platform. Yes, like they say ... the apps base will grow ... eventually ... but by then .. the E3T may become too dated.
What they (who would 'they' be) should do is to incentivize developers to build for the Android platform !
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IMHO if you're concerned about apps, I would wait. You already have an iPad 2 so technically you don't NEED another tablet. You're absolutely right, Apps are the key to unlocking the function and purpose of these things and as of now Honeycomb tablets are behind. People will tell you that Android apps scale well and that's true ~50% of the time in my experience.
As just a quick statistical example, I'm running 245 apps on my phone (including games, 728MB total), I'm running 119 apps on my tablet (267MB total) - not because I don't want them all, but because the rest either don't work (games don't port well from 2.2 to 3.0 at all, and by that I mean half of mine don't run) or don't scale well and show up in a phone sized portion of the screen. This is definitely due to honeycomb, as these same apps and games scaled wonderfully in Froyo to my GTablet.
So since you love the iPad 2, which is definitely more mature hardware and especially software-wise, I'd consider Honeycomb the Cupcake version of Android for Tablets - essentially the v.1 public beta test and either hold off or go in understanding exactly what you're getting.
I mean if you feel like this " ... I suspect I am going to be sorely disappointed about the lack of apps on the Android platform. Yes, like they say ... the apps base will grow ... eventually ... but by then .. the E3T may become too dated." right now then all you're going to do is be full of regret because yes, you will be disappointed, especially comparing it to the iPad 2. The apps will come there's 0 doubt in my mind about that, but you're exactly right by the time they do come in full force to match the entire market, the current batch of tabs will be 'stale'.
Unlike Apple hardware, Android hardware has to be on it's toes, there's a lot of competition in the market and each brand has to come out with something 'better' to attract buyers constantly. In the blink of an eye there will be triple and quad core cpu offerings, more RAM stuffed in, better screens, better cameras, more storage all for the same price that you're getting the current device at. That's the blessing (and curse?) of freedom and choice. With the iPad 2 you have something with excellent software-base but you're at the mercy of Apple to release new hardware and that's generally once a year.
So yeah, my point is that in the end you can either wait until Honeycomb has matured as Android for phones has, and THEN invest in a tablet and get apps to your hearts content (and have no regrets!) OR you can buy now and enjoy it for what it is. You may not get every app you get on the iPad 2 currently for it (which I can't see the point in, anyway) but you'll be getting a platform where many of the apps are free (ad supported), the hardware is better (faster and more powerful, at the very least) and where you're free to source your media from a variety of places, vs. just Apple and iTunes.
As for the apps themselves, I suggest you head to market.android.com and look up the names of those apps or their function, in order to help you find alternatives in case they aren't there.

Neoprimal said:
So since you love the iPad 2, which is definitely more mature hardware and especially software-wise, I'd consider Honeycomb the Cupcake version of Android for Tablets - essentially the v.1 public beta test and either hold off or go in understanding exactly what you're getting.
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While I understand the comparison, I think the difference here is that Android is now an accepted player in the market. When Cupcake came out, noone had a clue whether Google was going to be successful with their OS and so developers held off creating apps for it. I don't think the uptake will be so slow on the tablet front. Despite the relatively lacklustre sales of the early Android tablets, developers know that it will become popular down the line and the quicker they get their app onto the market, the better chance it will have to establish itself as the ________ app for Android tablets (fill in the blank here, Twitter, Facebook, Office etc). Honestly, I think it will be a matter of weeks rather than months before we start seeing Honeycomb-optimised apps in all the major categories.
It may make sense to wait for the quad-core tablets just around the corner, but by then they will have announced the octo(?)-core tablets coming in just a few short months and you will have to put off your purchase again. In technology there is always something better just around the corner...

husker91 said:
What's the e3t? Lol
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eee transformer (get it e3?)
yea, took me a sec to figure it out too, lol.

Anyone having issues with the xda app with their tablet? Mine FCs when I try to go to settings
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Android "List what you dislike or hope to see changed"

Sorry mods if i placed this in the wrong section but I just hope google reads this and fixes its faults. I want everyone reading this to post there issues or dislikes so we can enjoy this UI more while providing the best experience to us and other earthlings out there.
1. standby - I noticed the battery life is pretty good when it comes to playing movies,music and little bit of gaming but the standby is just horrid i know are phones are powerful as umpc but there should be a better way to lower consumption on sleep mode.
2. market - not really liking the new layout it needs to be more organized and less oversized.
3. multitasking - it's good obviously between switching to apps right away but sometimes i am left with too much baggage. I suggest there should be a setting to switch this option on/off.
4. scrolling - pretty good but still a little bit of lag now and then. would like the bounce when you hit the edge of the page.
5. UI - needs to be little bit more animated and lively.
6. brightness - the option to lower the level to the lowest.
7. websites - still has some bugs and glitches.
8. sdxc - running out of room here needs support of the extra capaity of sd cards.
9. apps - more quality apps. it seems like they just throw the free ones in the market without fully testing it for bugs. i have to scroll through dozens of unknown users with opinions that are just randomly unbiased.
10. standby again! - please fix this google!!! if i am left stranded from my car broken down or if i am vacationing to another then i'm screwed. I had a winmo phone did me good lasted more than a week on standby.....

It is not Google who builds the UI, its the phone manufacturer... Motoblur,thouchwiz,Sense etc, not google-builds.
To much baggage?, Try downloading and installing an app killer from market.
What other category is there to add to market btw?
Scrolling, I would think this is directly from your phone and not cause of Google...
again, try app killer to free up some ram.

-i7- said:
It is not Google who builds the UI, its the phone manufacturer... Motoblur,thouchwiz,Sense etc, not google-builds.
To much baggage?, Try downloading and installing an app killer from market.
What other category is there to add to market btw?
Scrolling, I would think this is directly from your phone and not cause of Google...
again, try app killer to free up some ram.
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I'm not talking about category but how the market is viewed it's all oversized block columns I prefer it to be more smaller and with more information in each block. I know there are app killers but it's better if it's official built running it would be more stabled and furthermore i hope more people will list there dislikes or changes about android and maybe google and the phone manufacturers will see this and make some fixes to there next builds. i want this thread to be seen by google from future post from xda users dislikes and hoping to change the faults....

Battery usage is my biggest complaint.

Mcds said:
5. UI - needs to be little bit more animated and lively.
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What do you mean?
Live wallpapers arent animated and lively enough for you? Do you use widgets?

hungry81 said:
What do you mean?
Live wallpapers arent animated and lively enough for you? Do you use widgets?
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usually when i compare the ebay iphone app to android it's less animated it's dull coming from someone in there thirties i can get to bored easily. don't get me wrong i'm using the 2g iphone it's smooth also laggy my 1ghz android is smooth but the phone doesn't animate i guess it depends on what apps you get also...
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gigem01 said:
Battery usage is my biggest complaint.
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This is the answer I am looking for from all of you, what you want to change! this deserves a thanks!

Android market has one of the worst layouts..(Both in Android as well as on Website) Despite having all the resources at disposal why they are still taking time to improve the layout?(Laziness??)

message apk should be improved

Given your initial post it sounds as though WP7 may be a better OS to suit your needs.

i dont quite understand #6
"6. brightness - the option to lower the level to the lowest."
my past 2 Android phones (G2 & currently my 4G Touch) have always been able to lower the brightness all the down.

comedy said:
i dont quite understand #6
"6. brightness - the option to lower the level to the lowest."
my past 2 Android phones (G2 & currently my 4G Touch) have always been able to lower the brightness all the down.
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Mcds is confusing hardware with Android. Basically he'd like the lowest brightness setting on his phone to be dimmer.
You know how the lowest brightness setting on one phone can actually be brighter than a different model, just as the highest setting can be brighter on one handset compared with a different model. It's down to the hardware, not Android.

all these things can be fixed with either a new ROM new kernel or just an app download... when it comes to android, if you know wt u doing then there is nothing that cant be fixed/tweeked to ur liking... that's the power of android my friend RECOGNIZEEEEEEEEEE

Doesn't matter what app, kernel, or rom you download. After androids attempts at emulating ios and wp7s fluid UIs they've proven, the UI just isn't going to get good. To me the UI is half of the reason I buy a phone with the other half being gaming and social integration (be it Facebook or texting) perhaps a small percentage of it is battery life but with my transition to wp7 a huge weight was lifted off of my shoulders. I realized I never wanted to dissect my phone just to increase the fps by 10, I did it because I wanted to make my mobile experience bearable. Now, I have everything I want out of the box.

Smartphones are app platforms, whatever flavour the OS is. Most of what people spend time doing on their phone, whether it be texting, gaming or emailing, is using apps. UI isn't a factor for me as i only see it for a very brief period until i launch the app i need.
If anything, it's the quality of the apps that should be compared between platforms, not the UI. Android Market could probably do with a bit more quality control, that's my own criticism really. Like for like apps on iOS are often more polished than their Android equivalent.

z33dev33l said:
Doesn't matter what app, kernel, or rom you download. After androids attempts at emulating ios and wp7s fluid UIs they've proven, the UI just isn't going to get good. To me the UI is half of the reason I buy a phone with the other half being gaming and social integration (be it Facebook or texting) perhaps a small percentage of it is battery life but with my transition to wp7 a huge weight was lifted off of my shoulders. I realized I never wanted to dissect my phone just to increase the fps by 10, I did it because I wanted to make my mobile experience bearable. Now, I have everything I want out of the box.
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Exactly, you've freely admitted that you found Android too complex, so of course the simplicity of such a basic OS as WP7 is going to appeal, lets face it, it's even less complex than iOS.
It's ideal for people who have never used a touch screen phone before, or even a mobile phone of any kind, especially if they have fat fingers, the sort of people who are not going to notice the lack of functionality but are easily impressed with visual effects.

xaccers, I still find it comical that you call me the troll but eh. I guess if that's your prerogative. I prefer my phone have decent social integration or as they put it, be "peoplecentric." as I use my phone primarily for *gasp* communication. The fact that it's also aesthetically pleasing is just a bonus, another that android does not have.
DirkGently, I agree to some extent, but I guess I feel the way I do because with WP7 the UI is uniform across the whole OS and most third party apps. I've come to appreciate the beauty in that. I do also agree that I see more quality in both the iOS and WP7 versions of apps that are on all platforms.

Let's not forget that you can't connect to ad-hoc wireless networks. I mean... c'mon...this is just lame.

Kinda not related, but i'ld like the source to be mirrored at some more reliable location xD
Getting to topic, i do like the custom overlays(tw, sense, etc..) but they take significant resources and are one of the causes behind slow updates

Wifi is the big problem for me
I have wifi issues with Archos 70 (Android 2.1 to 2.3, rooted), and Arcer Iconia (Honeycomb 3.2 rooted). Android seems does not like my working wifi and stay in obtaining ip most of the time.
And, I plan to listen some online radio (Domi, Douban for say), once the tablet goes to idle mode, wifi disconnected, make it useless. I tried to set wifi disconnect policy, tried wifi alive, wifi lock, wifi buddy and maybe most wifi related apps in the market, none work.
While iTouch works fine for above 2 scenarios.

Battery life and more quality apps. Seriously, has anyone else noticed that Android apps feel kinda rushed and low quality. Especially if that company/app is on iOS. I always felt that the iOS counterparts seem a lot better and that more time and effort is put into them.
Also, improvement on multitasking. I don't really like the little recent app window crap. Something along the lines of WebOS's multitasking screen would be a really nice addition. Also, notifications should be a little more organized. Apple did a good job with this on their notification dropdown ripoff..
-i7- said:
It is not Google who builds the UI, its the phone manufacturer... Motoblur,thouchwiz,Sense etc, not google-builds.
To much baggage?, Try downloading and installing an app killer from market.
What other category is there to add to market btw?
Scrolling, I would think this is directly from your phone and not cause of Google...
again, try app killer to free up some ram.
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By UI he probably means Android's base UI, Stock Android. You have to admit, it is pretty meh. Downloading a app killer/task manager is a bad idea. That bogs down Android more than background apps do.

Help loading Mvelopes APK

Hey guys,
I am trying to load mvelopes.apk and keep getting "Application not installed".
I have tried it from my "download" folder as well as "system/app" with no luck.
I took the apk from my phone, it was in a Titanium backup file (xxx.apk.gz) Could that be part of the problem?
Permissions are set to RW R R and root is the owner.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Without knowing what that app does, a possible reason for it not installing is that it has some dependency on other tools that either aren't enabled or are not available on the KF.
As an example, apps that use GeoLocation or the camera won't install because they are looking for hooks that just aren't there.

mvelopes is an app to manage personal budgets and money. It is associated with mvelopes.com and is a lot like mint.com.
Here is the Android Market Link
I would love it if somebody could see if they can load it on their device. Especially one that has market installed.

If you look at the Permissions tab it say's:
"FINE (GPS) LOCATION
Access fine location sources such as the Global Positioning System on the device, where available. Malicious applications can use this to determine where you are, and may consume additional battery power."
I think this is what is making it impossible to install right now, because it's looking for location services which aren't enabled on the KF. Perhaps with a custom ROM this might be possible in the future, but nobody knows for sure right now. Not all is lost, you just might have to wait a month or so to find out.

Thank you!
Thanks for looking into this and that would explain it.
I have also opened a ticket with Mvelopes requesting that they make it officially supported in the Amazon market.
I won't hold my breath as the ROM approach might be better once they get fully refined.
Thanks again!

bneilson said:
Thanks for looking into this and that would explain it.
I have also opened a ticket with Mvelopes requesting that they make it officially supported in the Amazon market.
I won't hold my breath as the ROM approach might be better once they get fully refined.
Thanks again!
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I don't hold out hope that CM7 or any other ROM will help us here - Maybe they can spoof the location somehow to fool the app but it seems like your first instinct might have been right -- the onus is on the companies who build the apps to get with it and embrace the "tablet revolution". Basically apps designed for phone screens look silly on tablets; the wide bits of useless screen real estate are dreadful. Case in point - the Gmail app on the KF.
Light at the end of the tunnel tho - it seems that companies are suddenly realizing that "Tablet App" doesn't necessarily mean "iPad App".
Banking from my KF would be pretty awesome.

hoss12300 said:
I don't hold out hope that CM7 or any other ROM will help us here - Maybe they can spoof the location somehow to fool the app but it seems like your first instinct might have been right -- the onus is on the companies who build the apps to get with it and embrace the "tablet revolution". Basically apps designed for phone screens look silly on tablets; the wide bits of useless screen real estate are dreadful. Case in point - the Gmail app on the KF.
Light at the end of the tunnel tho - it seems that companies are suddenly realizing that "Tablet App" doesn't necessarily mean "iPad App".
Banking from my KF would be pretty awesome.
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You may be right there, but I think Location Settings also include WiFi based geolocation as well as far as I'm aware? I'm not sure why such an app would require location settings anyway, it's a bloody budgeting app! Maybe the OP should approach the developer, and tell them they are missing out on the KF market here!
Someone should make a T-Shirt - Tablet App != iPad App

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You may be right there, but I think Location Settings also include WiFi based geolocation as well as far as I'm aware? I'm not sure why such an app would require location settings anyway, it's a bloody budgeting app! Maybe the OP should approach the developer, and tell them they are missing out on the KF market here!
Someone should make a T-Shirt - Tablet App != iPad App
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Yep, in this context (the Mvelopes requirements) Wifi geolocation can only provide you with the coarse location, not fine. As you point out tho, its a banking app - why on earth does it need to know where you are within 50m (I'm pretty sure that's the radius)? Quizzical indeed. Perhaps if a Dev sees this thread some light can be shed on why this is 'necessary'.
Some nerdy stuff on the subject from the Android Dev Guide: Location and Maps > Obtaining User Location

[Q] Anybody replace their desk/laptop with a Xoom?

Hey all,
I'm looking into the possibility of using my Xoom as my daily computer and making a current PC more of a home theater setup in the living room. I don't do anything heavy on the computer (besides occasionally gaming but no big deal) it's all mostly web browsing, IMing, Facebook, etc, so I don't see too much of a reason why I couldn't do this.
My question is this: Have any of you done it? Made the switch from the PC (or mac) being your primary computer to the Xoom? If so, thoughts? Anything to pay attention to? If I do go through with this, I will end up getting a bluetooth keyboard and mouse, I'm sure... but I'd rather not waste 100 bucks on something I end up not using often.

i use my laptop just to root my xoom =)

Anything I should pay attention to, or an accessory that will make a huge difference or anything? Besides the bluetooth keyboard/mouse, obviously.

thank you for the reply, but I already have a xoom... just trying to decide if it is feasible to use as an everyday computer.

Advise Only
This thread and the linked thread reminds me of the discussions an older man like myself would have with so called computer sales persons. If I'd listened to all their talk about specs and hardware I'd owned a missile launcher capable of high end mathematical computations !
What I'm saying is my advise is to list your requirements and expectations first. Look at the specs and hardware and decide what you'll need.
I am a retired engineer and I spend most of my time on my Xoom. A properly installed version of ICS, personally like EOS, I have NO problems surfing, emailing, playing some games and yes I even break out a spreadsheet once in a while.
Yes there are netbooks and laptops that can offer more...just be sure to aim those missiles correctly!!

TheRandom1 said:
thank you for the reply, but I already have a xoom... just trying to decide if it is feasible to use as an everyday computer.
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Wow, there was no need for AngryBulleteyeTruth to be so negative. I makes me wonder why he is even lurking the xoom forum if it is no use to him. Anyway.
I use my xoom more than I use my laptop and desktop. It Is wonderful for Im/text, typing documents to later be altered on a laptop/desktop, some games and media. I use my xoom everyday. The battery life is also great. Yes the document editing isn't on par with desktop suites but is an android tablet, not a laptop. The simplicity comes with its drawbacks but the portability, battery and ease of use is unmatched.
Also if you really need to run desktop quality apps you can just use an app like pocketcloud or splashtop hd to vnc into your laptop/desktop and do what you must. The internal 32gb + a 16gb micro sD card is more than enough room for me. You also have cloud storage available. There is even a app called pocketcloud explorer that will allow you to download and upload files remotely from your machines, with the addition of their companion software. AngryBulleteyeTruth just lacks creativity and the will to find a solution. Don't let his negativity drag you down. Also take a look at when he joined. Feb 2012 means he is fairly new to the community and possibly butt hurt by his unrealistic dream of his xoom transforming into a tiny robot and being his sidekick didn't work out as planned.
I love my xoom! With Team EOS nightlys + undervolting + some simple but useful apps to automate certain task at certain locations = WIN for me. I have a 4g xoom so I can pop my sim card from my HTC thunderbolt in there and use all of that unlimited data. Or tether via Bluetooth if I am on the go.
My uses also include: gps, scanning/PDFing documents on the fly, video chat, voip, portable netflix/media play w/ my micro hdmi cable, getting my fix on reddit, sexytime material and more. People are working hard and doing great things with this device. There will also be more to come. The device is an awesome tool but but you can't expect Apple like commercials that spoon feed what you can use it for.
Tips: checkout androidpolice.com and droid-life.com for explanations, news, reviews, tips and tweaks. Lifehacker also has some good android stuff from time to time. I use justreader to subscribe to the rss feeds.
Search YouTube for useful tablet apps.
Check out the Themes and Apps forum sections for other popular android tablets on XDA. I use tapatalk to subscribe to the Samsung galaxy tab 10.1, Asus prime, Asus transformer and nook color Themes and Apps sections.
Finally share your discoveries and leave constructive comments on XDA. This keeps the community going, makes you feel involved and spread the knowledge to others in your situation.
May you and your xoom find happiness.

AngryBulleteyeTruth said:
Did you write it on a xoom or on a netbook?
Just imagine my 50+ tabs on opera working on any xoom browser, and making my 5+ pages documents on it
...not ignoring the embeded video browsing other than you tube
runhopskipjump - I'm not ashamed of being disappointed. That's the point.
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I wrote on a xoom with swiftkeys while eating some carrot cake if you must know. I currently have 23 tabs open in opera from looking at reddit links that I would get back to later. And a couple more in chrome because I am downloading some music from beemp3 and prefer that the native download manager handles it. Yes I have typed 5+ pages with and without a Bluetooth keyboard on Docs to Go. My grammar isn't that shyty that I would require a stronger office suite to highlight the crap out of my paragraphs. You can always embed media at a later point or vnc into a desktop to complete the task as desired.
I hated netbooks. But that is not the point. The OP asked if it was viable to use the Xoom as his main device, not his only device. Yet you saw it fit to run your mouth, blabbering about your opinion, disappointment and flawed understanding of what the device is meant to achieve. I hope this exchange between us will be our last because I am not hear to convince you. You have made it clear that you aren't ashamed by your crys for attention using BOLD red font, linking to your own poorly placed Microsoft Dic-Riding thoughts on another thread and your clear inability to find a solution.
On Ice Cream Sandwich, this machine is a powerhouse. If you can't hang, Get Out. Good day sir/madam.

I feel dirty... like I am standing in the middle of a p***in match.
For what it is worth, I ordered a keyboard today and turned off my monitor to my computer to test this. I installed an rdc app on the xoom, and have done everything on it since I got home. So far, so good. I have a desktop at work I can work with if needed, however, I really do only use my computer for email, web browsing chatting, Facebook and other similar very light duty things. I honestly don't care if i can keep 30 tabs open...because I dont do it anyways. Same for documents. With a keyboard, it should be pretty easy, but I am not in school and do not type long essays, so it doesn't matter. If I have something super long to post, I have other options.
And yes... I typed this post on the xoom. It is on its dock in front of me, and I am using the hunt and peck method of typing on the on screen keyboard.

TheRandom1 said:
I feel dirty... like I am standing in the middle of a p***in match.
For what it is worth, I ordered a keyboard today and turned off my monitor to my computer to test this. I installed an rdc app on the xoom, and have done everything on it since I got home. So far, so good. I have a desktop at work I can work with if needed, however, I really do only use my computer for email, web browsing chatting, Facebook and other similar very light duty things. I honestly don't care if i can keep 30 tabs open...because I dont do it anyways. Same for documents. With a keyboard, it should be pretty easy, but I am not in school and do not type long essays, so it doesn't matter. If I have something super long to post, I have other options.
And yes... I typed this post on the xoom. It is on its dock in front of me, and I am using the hunt and peck method of typing on the on screen keyboard.
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Avert your eyes my child from the darkness and bickering that may arise on these public forums. Lol.
May I suggest that you invest some coin in Swiftkeys Tablet X, Thumb Keyboard and Swype to have a more pleasant on screen experience. You won't regret it.
Also I use Keyboard Manager (only like $1) to automatically change keyboard when you switch from landscape to portrait and back. Swiftkeys Tablet X has a pretty good prediction/auto-correct function but I don't like the way it is displayed in portrait mode. Thumb Keyboard has a better layout (i use it in portrait mode) but the prediction/auto-correct isn't even close to Swiftkeys Tablet X. And Swype is free so why not try it. My experience with the stock keyboard is a dreadful one. All three are worth getting and are a wonderful investment.
Cheers.

I use my Xoom probably 90% of the time when I'm at home. Occasionally I will sit down and use my desktop for other stuff - BUT I already had a desktop at the time I bought my Xoom. If something must to happen to my desktop, I seriously doubt I would replace it. There is an app out there for practically everything now with a little time spent setting the Xoom up like I wanted it, it has almost replaced my desktop (and at some point it will probably replace it). I work in IT on a daily basis and I'm a power user and I'm very impressed with Android and what it can do.

OK then... time to ignore the obvious troll.
Anybody else have an opinion on this?

What Troll?

Looks like I owe you some thanks Andy!

That's what were here for.
Every device forum has them. We just need to keep an eye on them.

sold my netbook and kindle and ipod when i got the Xoom!

Well, I got the keyboard in today and it is awesome... when it works. For some reason keys keep randomly not working, specifically the r, l, g' z and backspace keys. Anybody else ever have this issue?

TheRandom1 said:
Well, I got the keyboard in today and it is awesome... when it works. For some reason keys keep randomly not working, specifically the r, l, g' z and backspace keys. Anybody else ever have this issue?
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What ROM are you running? I had this issue in the stock honeycomb ROM with an apple keyboard. I no longer have such issues on team EOS ICS nightlys.
Tip: swiftkeys Tablet X work great with an external keyboard. I say this because when an external keyboard is present, swiftkeys Tablet X only displays the predictions and auto corrections. Hitting the space bar selects the highlighted word. Is is very convenient and not something people speak of.

I haven't rooted yet, still on stock honeycomb

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I haven't rooted yet, still on stock honeycomb
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Take some time to root it. Trust me, it is worth it. It opens up a whole new world of possibilities. Backing up apps, settings and game saves with titanium backup is so awesome. Android police has a wonderful set of articles about rooting, why you should do it and essential apps for rooted devices. Droid-life and lifehacker have some articles and pieces on the topic as well. Team EOS ICS nightlys are also one of the most up to date roms I have ever encountered. Rooting is even easier with tools like xoot and cornea, which will take you through the steps with a couple of clicks. I personally haven't tried those methods since I was rooted before they came out but others have been successful with them.

I will probably do that today just to see if the keyboard works better, it's so incredibly frustrating to only be able to type half a word! Hm... maybe I should root my Revo...again...

Apps other than Entertainment on the Nexus Player

As the title states, do you guys think it is wise to develop an application for the Nexus Player if Google isn't going to allow apps other than games and entertainment (no truth behind the statement, just looking at the play store as it stands)? I have a couple of apps that I have been currently working on and I believe they would work well with the player in the home. Just a thought, have any insightful ideas of what you may want the Player to do?

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As the title states, do you guys think it is wise to develop an application for the Nexus Player if Google isn't going to allow apps other than games and entertainment (no truth behind the statement, just looking at the play store as it stands)? I have a couple of apps that I have been currently working on and I believe they would work well with the player in the home. Just a thought, have any insightful ideas of what you may want the Player to do?
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Great thing about android compared to most other systems, you can basically do what you want. I definitely see a lot of useful non-entertainment apps on a system such as this. The Xbox-Playstation interfaces give some good ideas about integrating social media into the living-room, but well beyond that as well. Cooking apps, Do-it-yourself apps, Kahn acadamy, World Science U, etc, etc. The system is ripe for growth in the app department.

Elrondolio said:
Great thing about android compared to most other systems, you can basically do what you want. I definitely see a lot of useful non-entertainment apps on a system such as this. The Xbox-Playstation interfaces give some good ideas about integrating social media into the living-room, but well beyond that as well. Cooking apps, Do-it-yourself apps, Kahn acadamy, World Science U, etc, etc. The system is ripe for growth in the app department.
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I agree, I guess only time will tell when the "Play Store with Nexus Player" updates to more than limited selections that we currently at the moment.

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I agree, I guess only time will tell when the "Play Store with Nexus Player" updates to more than limited selections that we currently at the moment.
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I'd assume they'll expand the leanback interface as time moves on. But, again, a great strength of android on the tv is you don't have to stick to what Google gives you. I have no doubt other launchers will be adapted or created in short order, from Nova, etc. It'll be interesting to see how Google handles the visibility of alternative launchers considering how tight they've integrated search in the existing leanback and, I assume, want to preserve that built-in advantage. Unlike other systems like the Roku, AppleTV or even FireTV, however, being based on android means the end user will always have other relatively easily installed choices.

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I'd assume they'll expand the leanback interface as time moves on. But, again, a great strength of android on the tv is you don't have to stick to what Google gives you. I have no doubt other launchers will be adapted or created in short order, from Nova, etc. It'll be interesting to see how Google handles the visibility of alternative launchers considering how tight they've integrated search in the existing leanback and, I assume, want to preserve that built-in advantage. Unlike other systems like the Roku, AppleTV or even FireTV, however, being based on android means the end user will always have other relatively easily installed choices.
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Yea I figure they are going to keep this environment very closed and tight knit for some time. I read somewhere, where they are individually reviewing each app as it has to meet a certain criteria. This is good for a couple of reasons, I hated how Google TV apps work so poorly or never worked at all. Also, this will allow the users to add an app to their "custom" environment like a nova launcher. Only time will tell. Enjoyed this convo, look forward to hanging out with this community.

hulu plus app
Can anybody grab hulu plus app apk file and send link over here, so that non US users can install that.
Thanks

bobbyd-nexus said:
Can anybody grab hulu plus app apk file and send link over here, so that non US users can install that.
Thanks
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You can find the latest apk's for most of the more well known publishers from apkmirror.com. For Hulu in particular:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/hulu/
There are other apk downloading services you can find through google for a wider variety of apks as well.
Good luck.

Bluetooth Keyboard and mouse (or wired over OTG) and google docs or some other cloudbased office. I don't see why not use it like a miniPC.
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reverenddak said:
Bluetooth Keyboard and mouse (or wired over OTG) and google docs or some other cloudbased office. I don't see why not use it like a miniPC.
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To be honest, I feel like if its done right, the possibility is honestly there.

I think if you're using it primarily as an entertainment device, you might not want business apps or document apps on there; for example, I don't mind that anyone in the house can pick up the remote and watch Netflix or listen to my Google Play Music, but it's probably for the best there's not a Facebook or Gmail app on it.
However, if you intended to use it just as a mini PC, you'd want those.