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Ever since I got my brand new HTC Touch Pro I noticed the screen to be way less sensitive than my girlfriend's iPhone.
For example in the Contacts app, when I use my finger to scroll down or up I find myself many times opening a contact rather than the screen scrolled down or up. Same goes for many other presses on the screen with the finger. I find myself using much more force than I naturally would use with an iPhone
I wonder if my unit is faulty requirming more pressure to the screen or maybe that just the way it should be by deisgn? I assume only users who used both iPhone and Touch Pro could answer that. I don't know anybody with Diamond or Touch pro so I have no way of checking it other than asking you guys.
Thanks
Iphone and Touch Pro use different types of touch screen.
We have Capasitive screen on iPhone which doesn't require pressure, just a touch.
And we have touch-resistive screens on most of Windows Mobile (inc. Touch Pro) which are less sensitive than iPhone...
Here is a link that might help: http://www.rycom.com.au/capvsres.htm
by the nature of the technology involved to sense your touch, the pro is less sensitive than the iphone.
the iphone uses a capacitive touchscreen which senses the electrical signal around your finger whereas the tp uses a resistive touchscreen which senses where your finger presses the screen in.
resistive screens are designed for sytli, and the "gestures" and flick scrolling implemented on many htc devices are a kind of fudged system to imitate gestures on the iphone. i know on my wizard i could adjust the touch scrolling sensitivity through schaps advanced configuration tool, but i'm not sure if you can do that with the touch pro. its all about how much force/speed you use on the TP.
i know you can get used to it, and it will function properly, but it is definitely different from the iphone. good luck!
Thanks guys. Both of your replies are most helpful. I began to fear that my unit had a fault in it. Seems to make sense that is how it works after I understand it. I most appreciate the responses. Thanks.
mobiler said:
Thanks guys. Both of your replies are most helpful. I began to fear that my unit had a fault in it. Seems to make sense that is how it works after I understand it. I most appreciate the responses. Thanks.
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You will get better results using software designed from the ground up to be finger-friendly e.g. touchflo3d works well with only light pressure, and for contacts pocketcm also scrolls with only light pressure.
http://www.pocketcm.com/
Surur
On the plus side, the Touch pro(and all other non-capacitance screens) are less picky. I noticed that if you use fingernails on an iPhone it will ignore you. you have to touch with your finger. Our screen will respond to anything that touches it...pen, fingernail, rock. There are +/- s to both. Just have to get used to the change.
yeah pocketcm is great for scrolling also there is pointui if you dont like touchflo that is a free app that redoes the interface all scrolling too
and i usually use my fingernail for most stuff instead of my finger
jblakk said:
On the plus side, the Touch pro(and all other non-capacitance screens) are less picky. I noticed that if you use fingernails on an iPhone it will ignore you. you have to touch with your finger. Our screen will respond to anything that touches it...pen, fingernail, rock. There are +/- s to both. Just have to get used to the change.
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I used a metal key depth gauge, and though it felt smooth, it put a nice scratch on the screen. It was a new replacement, and I hadn't got the screen protector yet. Good thing I'm not an anal OCD-head
Stylus' (Styli?) seem to be out of fashion at the moment, but they are far more accurate for doing work in spreadsheets and other applications with lots of data on the screen.
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Stylus' (Styli?) seem to be out of fashion at the moment, but they are far more accurate for doing work in spreadsheets and other applications with lots of data on the screen.
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agreed, i have no problem being a "geek" and whipping out the stylus, especially when it magnetically snaps back in
is there a way of using stylus in capacitive screens?
Our fingers eletricity shouldnt be conducted through the stylus metal and reach the screen? Why it doesnt work?
is it true that HTC G1 is capacitive?
G1 is capacitive
Its not so much conducting electricity, more of eminating an electric field. i know there are certain "silver fingered" gloves that let you use the ipod/iphone with gloves on, and i would guess that there are capacitive styli as well, but i havent gone searching one out.
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G1 is capacitive
Its not so much conducting electricity, more of eminating an electric field. i know there are certain "silver fingered" gloves that let you use the ipod/iphone with gloves on, and i would guess that there are capacitive styli as well, but i havent gone searching one out.
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oic, that would be nice... capacitive with stylus
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is there a way of using stylus in capacitive screens?
Our fingers eletricity shouldnt be conducted through the stylus metal and reach the screen? Why it doesnt work?
is it true that HTC G1 is capacitive?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=432122
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agreed, i have no problem being a "geek" and whipping out the stylus, especially when it magnetically snaps back in
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I have been whipping it out in public since the Palm 3.
I sometimes feel that Windows Mobile doesn't make the best use of Stylus input compared to Palm OS (tap a time to create a new appointment for example) but both zip along compared to finger presses on the iPhone for most serious work.
mobiler said:
Ever since I got my brand new HTC Touch Pro I noticed the screen to be way less sensitive than my girlfriend's iPhone.
Thanks
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it's due to the resistive touchscreen. it's less sensitive than the capacitive screen in the iphone.
but the touch pro screen is actually less sensitive than other htc resistive touchscreens such as the kaiser. it's much less sensitive e.g. near the edges of the screen because of the bezel underneath, you need to press harder at the edges to get it to register a touch.
this is not a rant thread but what is what is what is the hype about capacitive screens?
for one i enjoy using my nails to click stuffs on the phone and wont this be more precise?
i do not have the fortune to have a capacitive phone before but i really want to know what is so good about this?
So many pple cant be wrong right?????????
(p/s I WANT A HTC TOUCH HD 2 NOW )
First post in a long time!!!!
Well, maybe some of you have noted that i was not posting haha. its because im busy at school.. all those knowledge things etc.
Ok, when i saw that title i was already thinking in something that could make a revolutionary change O:!!
Actually, you can fit a resistive screen layer on a capacitive screen surface.
Just with the needed configuration, driver and alternation between screens (ie: using resistive for pen works as writing programs and capacitive for multi-touching things)
Imagine, using the fingertip to scroll smoothly and writing with a pen at the same time ;D! (Just an idea... no one would do that, but anyone could do ;D)
Just with the right libaries, drivers, software and OS modifications.
cuff cuff M$ could try this on its phone or for the new wm7 cuff cuff...
Just an idea ;D!
See ya !!
The sensitivity!!! Can someone confirm if the HTC HD2 has the same sensitivity to the iphone? I know it will be much better than resistive...
leobox1 said:
i do not have the fortune to have a capacitive phone before but i really want to know what is so good about this?So many pple cant be wrong right?????????
(p/s I WANT A HTC TOUCH HD 2 NOW )
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leo... while your waiting on the LEO, just go to an at&t store and play with one on an iphonie
capacitive means that you can put a screen protector on it and it will be pretty much just as sensitive =]
but perhaps the best part is that you can just glide your finger over the surface and it will respond...resistive screens are much less sensitive.
I have read somewhere that HTC was working on a capacitive stylus though..sothat would be the best of both worlds =]
am i right to assume,
resistive = precise but not sensitive
capacitive = not precise but sensitive
Isaygarcia said:
First post in a long time!!!!
Well, maybe some of you have noted that i was not posting haha. its because im busy at school.. all those knowledge things etc.
Ok, when i saw that title i was already thinking in something that could make a revolutionary change O:!!
Actually, you can fit a resistive screen layer on a capacitive screen surface.
Just with the needed configuration, driver and alternation between screens (ie: using resistive for pen works as writing programs and capacitive for multi-touching things)
Imagine, using the fingertip to scroll smoothly and writing with a pen at the same time ;D! (Just an idea... no one would do that, but anyone could do ;D)
Just with the right libaries, drivers, software and OS modifications.
cuff cuff M$ could try this on its phone or for the new wm7 cuff cuff...
Just an idea ;D!
See ya !!
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wont it be thick? the screen..
leobox1 said:
this is not a rant thread but what is what is what is the hype about capacitive screens?
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Resistive screens work by detecting pressure, so you have to press on them, sometimes quite hard. Capacitive screens can detect the lightest of touches. So capacitive screens tend to be more responsive. If you're trying to type on an on-screen keyboard at speed then a capacitive screen is usually far better - you can actually type rapidly rather than having to methodically press. each. key. one. at. a. time.
Another important difference is that, for practical purposes, resistive screens cannot support multi-touch - they can only detect being pressed in one place at once. That means they can't do things like iPhone-style pinch-zooming which requires the phone to track you pressing in two different places at the same time. (There are multi-touch resistive displays but they're too expensive or difficult to use on a device like a phone).
The upside of resistive screens is that you can press them with almost anything. A conventional stylus won't work on a capacitive screen, neither will your fingernail - only skin. So you can't stab the screen with a convenient pen-top, and it won't work if you're wearing gloves. There has been some work done on creating special capacitive styluses - I'm not sure how well they work in practice and they're not yet widely available.
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capacitive means that you can put a screen protector on it and it will be pretty much just as sensitive =]
but perhaps the best part is that you can just glide your finger over the surface and it will respond...resistive screens are much less sensitive.
I have read somewhere that HTC was working on a capacitive stylus though..sothat would be the best of both worlds =]
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A capacitive one works like the touchpad of a laptop. Sometimes i would prefer a capacitive screen on my Touch HD but sometimes even not. Because you can get much easylier error inputs with a capacitive screen. It just needs that your finger touchs slidly the screen and a input is made. But with a resistive screen you really have to press on it.
A screen with both tecs would be nice, have read something about this, but don´t remember who is inventing this.
Don't know if it's because it's capacitive, but the iPhone screen always seems more readable in direct sunlight compared to my Touch Pro (or Touch 3G, or Touch).
For me personally, I think the problems of cold hands or a stylus not being able to work the screen outweigh the benefits. I also can't get my head around pinch to zoom - I love watching iPhone users trying to demonstrate the feature with one hand, sort of juggling it around trying not to drop it. I prefer double tapping on the bit you want to zoom in on. I can't wait to play with a Leo and see which works best in a 'Windows Phone' environment.
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For me personally, I think the problems of cold hands or a stylus not being able to work the screen outweigh the benefits. I also can't get my head around pinch to zoom - I love watching iPhone users trying to demonstrate the feature with one hand, sort of juggling it around trying not to drop it. I prefer double tapping on the bit you want to zoom in on. I can't wait to play with a Leo and see which works best in a 'Windows Phone' environment.
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Well obviously pinch-zoom is not designed to work one-handed, but then neither is using a stylus. One advantage of pinch-zoom is that it lets you pick which part of the screen you want to zoom in on and exactly how much you want to zoom in by. Using a zoom-bar doesn't give you any control over where it zooms - it'll always pick (say) the top left hand corner of the screen as a reference point; double-tapping lets you pick where to zoom, but not by how much. Other solutions require additional gestures or presses. Pinch-zooming is also extremely intuitive - non-technical people get the hang of it instantly. Other types of multi-touch gesture are often very intuitive too; for example, running Google Earth on the iPhone, if you want to rotate the map you simply take hold of it and twist.
I think it's interesting how many people were claiming that resistive is better than capacitive whenever they were trying to bash the iphone, yet now those same people can't wait to get their hands on the Leo's capacitive screen.
Personally, I'd rather have resistive. The difference in sensitivity isn't great (so many HD reviews said how close it was to the sensitivity of the iphone). Multitouch is overrated. You can easily zoom in and out with a circle motion on a resistive screen. For me, neither of those capacitive advantages comes close to the benefit of being able to select with a stylus far more accurately than you ever can with a finger. No need to pinch-zoom in to select that link on a web page, or to select a cell in a spreadsheet. That's what's important to me.
capacitive is not good for drawing precise pics right?
HP tablet laptops have some hybrid of resistive and capacitive screens. They have a switch on the side that flicks between them and so they support multi-touch AND stylus
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My mates got one and its dead impressive. Just a shame the screens only 12" If they had them on 17" laptops like the one im using i'd be well up for it!
Capacitive and pinch zoom are both well overrated!
I can touch the screen of my X1 and it responds - no pressure. And I can zoom in by double tapping. Can't see what all the fuss is about to be honest. Probably something started by iPhone fanboys!
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I totally agree. I don't want to lose the accuracy of a stylus. Why should I have to zoom in to click a small link with a fat finger, when I can click it unzoomed with a stylus? Same with a cell on a spreadsheet.
Multitouch is just a gimmick that really doesn't add anything useful. Either double tap or use the circle gesture to zoom/unzoom.
RIM applied for a patent for a dual capacitive/resistive screen about a month or two.. so someone is working on it.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/05/rim-patent-filing-reveals-hybrid-capacitive-resistive-touchscr/
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HP tablet laptops have some hybrid of resistive and capacitive screens. They have a switch on the side that flicks between them and so they support multi-touch AND stylus
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My mates got one and its dead impressive. Just a shame the screens only 12" If they had them on 17" laptops like the one im using i'd be well up for it!
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thats my laptop, did not know it had a hybrid screen. there no switch on the side, the pen works and the multi touch works (i think, if i press in 2 places it the marker goes to the middle) without press any switch.
People who say there x1, diamond 2s and so one are as sensitive as an iPhone, have not tried seeing how gently you can touch it.
I do like capacitives screens, but I will feel lost without a stylus.
Has anyone else noticed on the iPhone, it doesnt respond to a touch with a nail, but if you touch with you finger and then without taking your finger off put it so only your nail is on the screen it still responds!?
Hopefully HTC will soon release the capacitive stylus that isnt a joke like the pogostick one.
Shasarak does make a very good point though regarding the extra operation being involved after double tapping in a particular area - I guess I'm taking the 'scroll wheel' on my Touch Pro for granted and using it to do the second operation without even thinking about it ; )
As an aside, boy would I like to see physical scroll wheels with navipads underneath make a return, not to mention dedicated camera buttons!
Are there better onscreen keyboards for the vzw tp2? The keys are too small and I have a lot of typos since they're too close together. I have a perfect time on my ipod touch and would like to somehow change the onscreen keyboard on the tp2 so the keys are bigger or something.
Also it doesn't auto correct spelling either when typing messages, emails etc. If anything all it does is capitalize the first letter of the first word in aqnew sentence and that's it. Is there a way to make it work like on the ipod? That is perfect.
Thanks.
1: rotate phone 90 degrees counter-clockwise
2ush upward with thumbs
3. Tada! Best mobile keyboard.
buggs1a said:
Is there a way to make it work like on the ipod? That is perfect.
Thanks.
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Buy an iPhone?
Or as football0552 pointed it out, just slide the keyboard out. On-screen keyboard is meant for only replying "OK" to a friend =D
hardware keyboard too small.
iphone sucks. apple sucks.
onscreen keyboard is not meant for only ok. it is meant for all typing. hardware keyboard for me is even worse then the onscreen one.
buggs1a said:
hardware keyboard too small.
iphone sucks. apple sucks.
onscreen keyboard is not meant for only ok. it is meant for all typing. hardware keyboard for me is even worse then the onscreen one.
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Too Small??? Oo
Well, try some other keyboards, there are some lying around here somewhere, search for resco keyboard and finger keyboard
buggs1a said:
hardware keyboard too small.
iphone sucks. apple sucks.
onscreen keyboard is not meant for only ok. it is meant for all typing. hardware keyboard for me is even worse then the onscreen one.
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Apple sux??? and you have a Ipod Touch? And Hardware Keyboard is too small?? Are you serious, this keyboard is gigantic compared to any other slideout KB out there. Just search for other KB out there, I havent found a WVGA one yet. I use the Compact Qwerty KB that is on Mightey Mikes new rom. I think its the best for texting if you dont feel like whipping out the KB bro.
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Really?? I thought it is the best. Definitely the best hardware keyboard for a phone...but anyway I have used SBP Keyboard. It works pretty good and you can download different skins that have different layouts and bigger and smaller keys so you can kind of customize it to your liking.
Here is the cab for the keyboard: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ODHE7PK9
I just hate it when someone asks for help and then people go suggesting other stuff. eg iphone.
Thanks for the suggestion for the sbp. I still think its keys are way too small. Look how skinny they are. Way smaller then my thumbs.
The hardware keyboard on the tp2 is yes, the best I have seen, but still too close together by far. You look at yer thumb and how wide it is and I need a bigger onscreen keyboard.
The sbp I tried and I think it is slightly better then the default onscreen keyboard. Only thing is it doesn't stick to that when I reboot the phone etc. At least mine went back to the default.
That may be. I mostly used it on my touch pro and it stayed as the default on that one. I haven't used it a lot on my TP2
I assume you've had your device for a while now. They all take getting used to, so my only suggestion would be to practice a bit more with both keyboards. I came from using Treos (no problem using a keyboard that size for me when I had them). I am by no means small of hand: the top joint of my thumb covers 15 of the physical keys at a time, and I have zero problems selecting individual keys. The virtual keyboard, while not the easiest to use, is one I still can use with very few mistakes, actually better than I expected.
Sorry to not have a solution to your exact question, merely a suggestion, but I hope you stick with it. This is too good a device to give up on IMO.
Afterthought question: what were you using previously that had bigger keys than this?
i have ipod touch 2g and love the onscreen keyboard. maybe its better not only from size but it is capacitive on glass solid screen? could the screen be the difference? i just have to type very slow with tp2 hardware kbrd and onscreen. im not giving up on my tp2. what makes this such a wonderful phone anyway? i just wish the onscreen kbrd keys were wider. but my thumbs maybe dont slip to next key on ipod cus its capacitive. i dunno.
are you typing with the ends of your thumbs or the actual pads? I have noticed that Cap screens are pretty lenient in allowing you to use big blunt things like the pads of your thumbs whereas resistive screens are somewhat more picky so using the ends of your thumbs, fingers, nails are better off used in this case. Same would go for physical keyboards of smaller size.
I would strongly suggest using the fingernail to type on the screen. A solid tap right over top of the intended key then moving on to the next letter lets me type very fast on the screen. Possibly faster than the physical keyboard (but only for shorter messages/search phrases). Just tap with your index fingernail and trust that the screen picked it up. that's what i do
I don't use the very tip of my thumbs or fingers but just below that with fingers or the middle/fatter part on the thumb because of how you hold the phone. But even if I use closer to the tip that doesn't help much on tp2.
I really have towonder if a big thing here is capacitive iPod touch (glass?) vs tp2 resistive. My fingers thumbs don't seem to slip as much on iPod but maybe that's cus iPod keys are a bit wider which of course they are I think.
The hardware keyboard on the tp2 I use the tip of fingers/thumbs a bit more for sure. They're way to clse and flat otherwise when using the fatter middle part of my thumbs.
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I just hate it when someone asks for help and then people go suggesting other stuff. eg iphone.
Thanks for the suggestion for the sbp. I still think its keys are way too small. Look how skinny they are. Way smaller then my thumbs.
The hardware keyboard on the tp2 is yes, the best I have seen, but still too close together by far. You look at yer thumb and how wide it is and I need a bigger onscreen keyboard.
The sbp I tried and I think it is slightly better then the default onscreen keyboard. Only thing is it doesn't stick to that when I reboot the phone etc. At least mine went back to the default.
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I don't use the very tip of my thumbs or fingers but just below that with fingers or the middle/fatter part on the thumb because of how you hold the phone. But even if I use closer to the tip that doesn't help much on tp2.
I really have towonder if a big thing here is capacitive iPod touch (glass?) vs tp2 resistive. My fingers thumbs don't seem to slip as much on iPod but maybe that's cus iPod keys are a bit wider which of course they are I think.
The hardware keyboard on the tp2 I use the tip of fingers/thumbs a bit more for sure. They're way to clse and flat otherwise when using the fatter middle part of my thumbs.
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I've got pretty big hands and an iPod Touch 32GB (1G) and I have a harder time with the iPod's keyboard vs. the TP2.
I use the TP2's 'full qwerty' on-screen keyboard for texting and the hardware keyboard for emails.. I find it easier to format emails with the hardware keyboard.
Anyway, my suggestion is to use that little nub in the middle of your thumb and teach yourself to type over a few day period.. that's what I did and it only took me a few days to follow the learning curve from my Storm 1 (now THAT'S a HUGE difference)
-mak
Maybe what I'm seeing is iPod is glass and the tp2 is plastic. Much easier to use the iPod onscreen then tp2 for me. With tp2 I think what happens is I slip to the next letter and i have to manually correct it. I get auto correction on iPod but my fingers/thumbs don't slip to the next letters. The hardness of my iPod screen feels so much better then the tp2 screen.
Is what I'm talking about capacitive vs resistive? Is it the iPod glass screen/hardness vs the tp2 softer screen?
And does anyone know how to get the tp2 to auto correct like iPod does?
Perhaps what we really need to know is what all the typing is for? Are these just little SMS messages or are you doing a lot of work on your phone?
The only way you're going to get physically bigger is by going to a full size (more r less) Bluetooth keyboard. Actually quite nice if you are doing a considerable amount of work on your phone. Maybe not so hot if you are only looking for a solution to tap out some SMS messages once in a while.
You can only make each key so big and still fit them all on a certain size screen. Does your iPud have a larger screen? You can look for other software keyboards, but the keys can only get so big & keep them all on screen.
A resistive screen needs to receive pressure. A capacitive screen only needs to register the electrostatic ground you provide. And yes, a capacitive screen is more like glass if not actually made of glass. Perhaps the capacitive screen of your iPud works better for you and the properties of the resistive screen just don't get along with your fingers. There are just now WM phones coming out with capacitive screens, HTC HD2 for instance.
These two are simply things that can't be changed with this phone. They are physical properties. If these are the problems, you need to look at other phones.
If you want the software to do others things like auto-correction, you need to look at other software keyboards.
Wikipedia & internet searching are your friends.
p.s. Please look up the proper usage of the words "then" and "than".
... How is this CMDA specific again?
As an engineer, I usually take notes by hand and make small drawings in Notes app using the stylus in my Pro2.
Will Notes work on HD2 without stylus or will it be possible using the finger? Even to write small letters by hand as I can using stylus?
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I don't think you can do it.
You'll need to find a stylus that works on capacitive screens... It may also be less precise, so you may not be able to take decent notes.
I just tried. The notes app is present, but has not been made finger-friendly. Even selecting a note sometimes result in selecting two...
Making drawings isn't handy as well, as you can't use your fingernails, nor a stylus. The capacitive styluses on the market are not good for taking notes. We'll have to wait until HTC produces their capacitive styluses they recently patented (which do have a small tip).
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Thanks for the answer.
You were the only that anderstood my question.
Your test demonstrate that may be, it's not a good decision to buy HD2 for those that need, in their work, to take notes or make sketckes by hand.
Well, you can buy a mini stylus and take it with the HD2 in your keyring or similar.
It is my option, as I want notes like on my blackstone but on the HD2
I wonder, if someone will bring out a small stylus for capacitive screens?
And also, I wonder, if something conductive would work. How exactly does a capacitive screen work? If we know this, then we can find suitable things to use as a stylus, that gives accuracy and works on the HD2 screen.
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I wonder, if someone will bring out a small stylus for capacitive screens?
And also, I wonder, if something conductive would work. How exactly does a capacitive screen work? If we know this, then we can find suitable things to use as a stylus, that gives accuracy and works on the HD2 screen.
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Thing is that the sensor on the screen itself is lower resolution than resistive, so we're unlikely to get as good precision...
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Thing is that the sensor on the screen itself is lower resolution than resistive, so we're unlikely to get as good precision...
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Ah ok. That's a shame. I was thinking about testing a conventional stylus, but coated in silver conductive paint.
A capacitive stylus must be conductive for it to work, so this may be a good idea ^^
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It surely can't just be a matter of the stylus being conductive... otherwise anyone could make one in minutes - eg a metal knitting needle - and the likes of HTC wouldn't need to file patents. I guess the issue is that the capacitive effect must be spread over a wide area of the screen to induce the current beneath...
Maybe some bright engineer could expand...?
maybe get an Acer s200 neoTouch instead.
just 3,8" but also WVGA, 1GHz and is resistive, so you can use a stylus.
PhatNotes and Phatpad both work on HD2.
I started this thread to address the need for resistive touchscreen technology. Some people still like to use their nails, gloves and such to use the touchscreen, which isn't possible with capacitive touchscreens. The problem is that most of the new phones are made with capacitive touchscreens. Here's my requirements:
Resistive touchscreen
Regular PDA size (around 100g, 3-4" screen)
Windows Mobile, Symbian S60, Android 2.2/3.0
No physical keyboard/keypad is prefered
Released 2010 or 2011 (upcoming)
With these requirements there are only a few suitable phones on the market at the moment and from what I've been looking at, even less of the new phones fit these properties. Has anyone been battling with similar problems, found some solutions or good phone models perhaps? Any word on projective capacitive touchscreens? Other possible solutions like films to capacitive touchscreens to support gloves/regular stylus etc.? My not-so-extensive phonelist looks like this:
Nokia C5-03
Sony Ericsson Vivaz
BLU Tango
Acer beTouch E140
Gigabyte GSmart G1317 Rola (Q1/2011)
Resistance is futile
nice thread
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Isotoner makes gloves with conductive thread sewn on to the fingertips, they work great with my capacitive touchscreen. You can also but a spool of conductive thread from various places on the web to sew on to your own gloves if you prefer. As for a stylus, I wonder if you can buy a conductive one? I would think so.
Resistive is clearly on it's way out. Hope this helps.
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Isotoner makes gloves with conductive thread sewn on to the fingertips, they work great with my capacitive touchscreen. You can also but a spool of conductive thread from various places on the web to sew on to your own gloves if you prefer. As for a stylus, I wonder if you can buy a conductive one? I would think so.
Resistive is clearly on it's way out. Hope this helps.
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Very cool, thanks for sharing this
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Isotoner makes gloves with conductive thread sewn on to the fingertips, they work great with my capacitive touchscreen. You can also but a spool of conductive thread from various places on the web to sew on to your own gloves if you prefer. As for a stylus, I wonder if you can buy a conductive one? I would think so.
Resistive is clearly on it's way out. Hope this helps.
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Yeah I've seen some of these, ready for sale and selfmade solutions. The problems is that it's not entirely convienent for all cases and the gloves tend to cost a lot when dealing with more than just one device. Styluses that work on capacitive screens are also being sold so no problem there.
man ive been one of the last standing , but ive turned to capt ... resistive may be more accurate , but day to day use capacitive blows it out the water
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man ive been one of the last standing , but ive turned to capt ... resistive may be more accurate , but day to day use capacitive blows it out the water
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Resistance seems to be futile indeed But still, the keyword here is regular gloves, so rather than searching for options in special gloves or moving to capacitive, I'd like to know more about possibilities in devices (models, existing/available and upcoming) as well as other possible solutions like some sorts of films that are easy to install)
I use a capacitive stylus, which I made on a large from a piece of metal. I can't remember what metal it was though Works fine for me
tis helped me much kthx dude
Need resistive!
Have to agree Cap is best but what do you do if you need signature capture. Have tried Pogo etc but not suitable. Anyone got a soultion for signature capture on Cap screens?
Greatful for any input
This is an interesting thread and I did not realise the major difference untill now.
In reading this I dont think that you can get a signature input unless you use your fingers on the captive screens.
Hate to be negative but you're fighting a losing battle, resistive is by far on it's way out.
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highly doubt any phones will be resistive from here on out. Maybe one or two cheaper phones, but for the most part, no.
There are styli made for capacitive touchscreens -
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=45648&cat=888
The HTC one is pretty t*ts.
As the technology develops there will come a point where the best of both will be used:
i.e. piezoelectric touchscreen
Piezoelectric touch technology leading flagship Ten Smart Devices plate
While such products are popular and there are advantages/disadvantages of one technology over the other, you can be sure that companies are working on the next solution for it.
The Fascinates have Corning Gorilla Glass, which for.me is well worth the trade offs. I don't need to use a screen protector.
Man, I just realized that u put Vivaz on the resistive list, and I just know it!
Thinking to buy one, but not now. I preffered capacitive way over resistive.
AFAIK, most smartphone made in China use resistive since they love to do the handwriting thingy. Even Philips Xenium X806 still use it. You might want to check that out.. But it's a feature phone, no OS in it
As has been said, you can get a stylus for capacitive screens. A friend of mine has one and he says it works great. Any stylus sold for the iPhone or iPad should be able to work on any capacitive screen.
As far as resistive screens go, I say good riddance!
There are things that are way better on resistive touchscreens, like the stylus thing, nails, tip of finger, and so on but resistive touchscreens are loosing the battle, as stated above capacitive tscreens, support (at least easier and better) multitouch, most of them are Scratch resistant or the new gorilla glass technology, and people like how easy it is to use them no stress xD but, I'm using a LG GT540 Optimus, and I like the fact that I'm using a resistive touchscreen i can more easily paint, write, play games and so on maybe one day a we will have capacitive touchscreens supporting fingertips, pen styluses, fingernails and so on
Tried various Styli
Thanks to all who suggested the HTC stylus have tried it for sig capture and it really is not suitable have also tried pogo etc but all you end up with is an illegible scrawl on the screen.