MT3G + ROM - FEATURES = Battery Life - myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development

WELCOME to, what I hope will be, THE BATTERY CENTER...
I am tired of searching every Forum, Google, and reading hundreds of posts to find one specific piece of information. WHAT IS THE BATTERY LIFE?
Like many of you, I love this sight and enjoy the work of all of our GREAT DEVs out there. Thanks to XDA-DEVELOPERS and the endless string of names that make this sight...and my phone all that it can be! I attempt new ROMs on a weekly basis, always with 3 things in mind.
1) I want BATTERY LIFE
2) I want Hero(esc) widgets
3) I want Cyanogen stability
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[ROM]Super D 1.6 1.10.3 Black Nexus [STABLE] 4/17/2010
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Rom: NexusSuperD16-blk (I am loving Super D.)
Widgets: <Heavy> Pure Mess...Cal...Grid Cal, Facebook, Weather Widget, music, Power Settings, search
Battery: Average 19-20 hours
Type of User: I am a POWER user.
Anything Worth Mentioning:No adjustments to save battery life. This Rom gives me "Bettery" Life <- coined by...feel free to use(;
Out Of The Box: 10
Over All: 10
DON'T THINK...FLASH
As we all know...we do not always get what we want and so each ROM offers us a little bit of one or the other. I respect this fact but still I believe that if we, as a community, pull together and begin to post useful information on these ROMs, we can begin to educate each other on our experiences. I am sure we have all found ourselves reading the 100 -200 posts on all of our developers threads attempting to find 1 or 2 pieces of information. If you are READING THIS you have likely stumbled upon us searching for the same info. if this is the case...JOIN IN. Let's help each other find the ROM that fits us best. What may not be what you are wanting, may be perfect for someone else. I personally want to find a Hero(esc) ROM with a good battery life. This is not a thread to post questions in. Instead, let's post FACTS. Let's let the info direct people, leave the questions to the professional devs and their own threads. Here is my thought/challenge...Try a ROM. Give it at least a day. Post the following:
Request For an additional Rating: Out of the Box Usability and appeal & Over all thoughts. Let's rank these 1-10 and feel free to comment.
Rom: Trojan_Final Hero ROM
Widgets: <Heavy> Mail, Messenger, Facebook, music, Power Settings
Battery: Average 4 hours
Type of User: I am a POWER user.
Anything Worth Mentioning:Turned off location features, turned off wifi when it is not in use, set to manually sync mail and the like, kept screen low.
Out Of The Box: 7
Over All:6
Rom: Cyanogen Mod 4.2.12 (or any Cyan Mod Rom for the most Part)
Widgets: <Heavy> Mail, Messenger, Facebook, Better Home, Pure Grid Cal, music, Power Settings
Battery: Average 14-18 hours
Type of User: I am a POWER user.
Anything Worth Mentioning:No adjustments to save battery life. This Rom gives me "Bettery" Life <- coined by...feel free to use(;
Out Of The Box: 7
Over All:8
Rom: eViL HeRo v3s ReMiX
Widgets: <Heavy> Mail, Messenger, Facebook, Clock, Grid Cal, music, Power Settings, Bookmarks, Photo
Battery: Average 5- 6 hours
Type of User: I am a POWER user.
Anything Worth Mentioning:Turned off Location functions, and changed email to sync manually.
Out Of The Box: 8
Over All:5
Rom: RZR v1.2 and SuperLite Series
Widgets: <Heavy> No Mail, Messenger, Facebook, Clock, Grid Cal, music, Power Settings, Bookmarks,
Battery: Average 4-7 hours
Type of User: I am a POWER user.
Anything Worth Mentioning:Turned off Location functions, and changed email to sync manually, setCpu.
Out Of The Box:6
Over All:6
Rom: Eclair v2.2 w/ edit by Me & Twisted & Manup
Widgets: <Heavy> Mail, Messenger, Facebook, Clock, music, Power Settings, Lind Agenda
Battery: Average 8 hours
Type of User: I am a POWER user.
Anything Worth Mentioning: setCpu, still no camera.
Out Of The Box: 8
Over All:7
To name a few...
If this seems like a good idea to you, or you found this post while searching this information, PLEASE be a part of this post! Also, Please try to keep thread on topic and specific to the info I listed above. This is not a great spot for questions...instead this is for information.

This shd be in general Thread >> I think!!!!!

Let me knwo if this seems liek a wasted idea
Will begin to Update as I start testing ROMs again, give it a week or so.

ROM:in sig...
Widgets:Facebook, Pandora, Power control, Weather FlipClock, Audio Manager
Battery Life about 6 hours before reaching 15%
Type of user:Power user...heavy messaging, browsing, etc...
Side note: Screen is usually at 40% brightness, GPS off, no wifi use, no bluetooth, no auto sync

Good topic
I did batery tests and i had similiar results... Thats why i keep using Cyanogen

ROM : CursorSense 1.0 RC1
Widgets: flip clock, htc battery, taskiller, people, gps on/off, mobile on/off, wifi on/off, bt ob/off, photo frame, bookmarks, calendar, htc.search
Battery life : 12+ hrs, i always plug it in during the night
Type of user: power user. Lots of messaging, browsing, at least 1h a2dp Music daily
Side note : wifi and gps always off, brightness 50%
P.S the rom is faster and more stable than cyanogen. Downside -> specific radio/spl + cupcake
EDIT: and 32A only :-/

Good To See
I just wanted to thank you all for hoping on board. I hope we continue to Build this thread. Keep Testing...Keeping Posting!

I understand and appreciate what you are doing here, don't get me wrong.. But I think this should be moved to the General section.

Rom:[32B/Dream][Dec23][Dwang][Donut][Speed and Stability][v1.17.1]
Widgets: Facebook, Clock, music, Power Settings,
Battery: Average 21 hours
Type of User:Normal user
Anything Worth Mentioning: Only 2g , brightness defaut

Rom: [32B/Dream][Dec23][Dwang][Donut][Speed and Stability][v1.17.1]
Widgets: SportsTap, Beautiful Widgets Flip Clock, Cachemate, Power Settings,
Battery: Average 18-20 hours
Type of User: Normal user
Anything Worth Mentioning: Auto sync on, WiFi/GPS usually off, Brightness @ 41%, Use Advanced Task Mgr to end apps every hour

I would love to have also like a satisfaction Rate or personal opinion whateverthingi. (runs smooth? looks good out of the box? comment)
After all, battery live is not the only thing that matters.
(Yeah, I know this thread is about battery life, but why not?)
(or is it possible to rate single posts somehow? so we could do it that way)
just asking
And thanks for the thread (ok im already messing it up by posting something else... )

Battrey Life
It is begining to llok as if Super D mixed with Pure Widgets, and MXPlayer is the best way to make your MT3G (myTouch) into a stable version of HERO.

Good stuff, maybe some speed test results would be awesome, you should talk to @AndroidSpin and get it added to the ROM database.

SuperD vs CSDI
Do not get caught up in the hype!!!!! The numbers read faster with CSDI but SuperD is more stable, and innovative! Take a look at the latest. SuperD Roms are continually doing what others aren't! Now with the BEST MUSIC WIDGET IN EXISTENCE!!!

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Why is multitasking good?

I have an argue with my friend who can't accept that multitasking is something which people need. He has an iPhone and I have a HTC TD2, I told him there are 100 reasons why multitasking is better and that iPhone is far behind because it can only run 1 process at the time.
Could you guys provide me with some reason WHY multitasking is good or better than just running 1 process at the time?
Enjoying music when navigating.
Push mail
Apps running in background open faster
online sync while playing games for example.
That sort of thing.
[ElCondor] said:
Enjoying music when navigating.
Push mail
Apps running in background open faster
online sync while playing games for example.
That sort of thing.
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I actually took up most of these things and also the fact that you can talk to someone on the phone and go OUTSIDE the dialer and navigate to like email, messages and notes (very important for me) but what he says is this:
You can run music in background and use other programs at the same time.
Who the **** needs to go out of the dialer? Are you retarded? You can just say to the guy you're talking to that you will call him in 2 secs.
But that's exactly what you don't wanna do..
ArtieQ said:
I actually took up most of these things and also the fact that you can talk to someone on the phone and go OUTSIDE the dialer and navigate to like email, messages and notes (very important for me) but what he says is this:
You can run music in background and use other programs at the same time.
Who the **** needs to go out of the dialer? Are you retarded? You can just say to the guy you're talking to that you will call him in 2 secs.
But that's exactly what you don't wanna do..
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holy...
is that déjà-vu? exactly led this kind of kind of discussion with a collegue (quite bright otherwise) and listened to it between him and another of my colleagues
believe me, it's absolutely useless to discuss: any argument you lead will be smashed irrelevant of how reasonable it is
my personal opinion changed after that: it's got to be something like a general attitude in certain people who are at the same time (or for this reason?) mysteriously attracted to the iphone
spare your energy and leave them alone in their tiny little linear world, it's self inflicted imprisonment anyway; if they don't want to see the light, leave them in the dark
DrakenKorin said:
holy...
is that déjà-vu? exactly led this kind of kind of discussion with a collegue (quite bright otherwise) and listened to it between him and another of my colleagues
believe me, it's absolutely useless to discuss: any argument you lead will be smashed irrelevant of how reasonable it is
my personal opinion changed after that: it's got to be something like a general attitude in certain people who are at the same time (or for this reason?) mysteriously attracted to the iphone
spare your energy and leave them alone in their tiny little linear world, it's self inflicted imprisonment anyway; if they don't want to see the light, leave them in the dark
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Haha, that's amazing But you're right, it's useless to argue because it could go on forever and they will never realise the truth.
Ask him to listen to Internet radio and surf the Internet at the same time.
Ask him to listen to the Internet and use a music identifier program to find out the name and singer if that nice song.
Ask him to download a movie then while waiting for it to complete listen to his iPod music.
BTW iPod can and does multitasking the stock programs. It also run the stock program in the background and one third party program in the foreground. It just does not allow third party program to run in the background. Unless he jailbreaks or use OS 4.0.
eaglesteve said:
Ask him to listen to Internet radio and surf the Internet at the same time.
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it's not impossible with a lot of radio stations on the iPhone w/o jailbreaking - see section "1.2.1 Playing in the background" in my dedicated article at http://www.iphonelife.com/blog/87/e...need-know-about-listening-radio-iphone-part-i .
Note that both ooTunes and Pocket Tunes have received background playback capabilities in the meantime.
Tell him that multitasking is good because Steve Job's has added it to iPhone OS 4 (don't bother trying to explain the limits and conditions that come with it, you might give me a brain tumor).
That ought to change his world view real quick.
Menneisyys; said:
it's not impossible with a lot of radio stations on the iPhone w/o jailbreaking - see section "1.2.1 Playing in the background" in my dedicated article at http://www.iphonelife.com/blog/87/e...need-know-about-listening-radio-iphone-part-i .
Note that both ooTunes and Pocket Tunes have received background playback capabilities in the meantime.
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Strictly speaking you're right. I was just saying that in general it is the case. My own Internet radio has this feature too without jailbreak, but most of them can't do it without jailbreak.
Great article you've written there.
The human brain can in general only focus on two tasks at a time.
Same would go for the device.
You do not want a phone that while you are talking to somebody
1. also plays music
2. and is also providing turn-by-turn voice navigation
3. is reading your incoming text messages
4. announcing your appointments
Multi tasking only makes sense when the task themselves make sense to be done together.
Instant Messenger Programs
some program just end the connections when switch to other apps, causing you to log off from the server.
chikoo said:
The human brain can in general only focus on two tasks at a time.
Same would go for the device.
You do not want a phone that while you are talking to somebody
1. also plays music
2. and is also providing turn-by-turn voice navigation
3. is reading your incoming text messages
4. announcing your appointments
Multi tasking only makes sense when the task themselves make sense to be done together.
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I would say that the human brain can only really focus on one task at a time. We are terrible at multitasking despite protests to the contrary by some.
If I am reading a web page while listening to music, it is very unlikely that I am actually paying attention to the song or its lyrics. The same goes vice versa.
There is what we are currently focused on, and then there is background noise. If we try to split our attention, we usually end up doing both tasks less well.
Thus multitasking on computers is not usually about allowing us to do two things at once, it is about not shutting down or halting one task when we briefly switch our attention to another.
For many situations, simply suspending the operation of of a program until it regains focus is sufficient. But there are always, always exceptions where having the option of true multitasking will save a lot of headaches and frustrations. Usually this involves cases where the computer needs to maintain a persistent connection to a server such as for IM, SSH, etc.
The scenarios you mentioned all involve background apps interfering with the in-call speaker. This is easily solved by simply giving the phone "app" exclusive use of the external audio while a call is in session.
chikoo said:
The human brain can in general only focus on two tasks at a time.
Same would go for the device.
You do not want a phone that while you are talking to somebody
1. also plays music
2. and is also providing turn-by-turn voice navigation
3. is reading your incoming text messages
4. announcing your appointments
Multi tasking only makes sense when the task themselves make sense to be done together.
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Actually I'd find that very useful.
If I'm going for a long journey to somewhere new, I'll have my blackstone bluetoothed to my radio, giving directions from tomtom while either playing music from the storage card or internet radio. It's also recieving emails in the background. Reading out texts would be a boon as it would mean I'd not have to hit the home button, then read the text, then drop back to tomtom (which was merrily running in the background).
Similarly if I need to pull over and take a call, look up information in one of the notes and send an email after cutting and pasting that information, then drop back to tomtom without having to wait for it to find the gps signal again.
Today I had to phone the tax office, so switched from the dialer to notes to give them the reference number and take down any info they gave me. If I couldn't do that, I'd have to write the information on my hand or carry around a notebook and pen all the time.
chikoo; said:
The human brain can in general only focus on two tasks at a time.
Same would go for the device.
You do not want a phone that while you are talking to somebody
1. also plays music
2. and is also providing turn-by-turn voice navigation
3. is reading your incoming text messages
4. announcing your appointments
Multi tasking only makes sense when the task themselves make sense to be done together.
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Not disputing that at all. Users can't watch a video and use TomTom at the same time.
It makes sense that VOIP could continue to receive call in the background. Or download to continue in the background. Or GPS position tracking to continue if you havev to receive that call and when the call is finished your gps should be showing you at where you are without having to start it all over again. Or music, radio, podcast must be allowed to continue while reading an ebook or surf the net. These activities could go together for most users without distractions.
ArtieQ said:
I have an argue with my friend who can't accept that multitasking is something which people need. He has an iPhone and I have a HTC TD2, I told him there are 100 reasons why multitasking is better and that iPhone is far behind because it can only run 1 process at the time.
Could you guys provide me with some reason WHY multitasking is good or better than just running 1 process at the time?
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I have a good one, tell him to tell his boss that multitasking is bad...
Let the boss enlighten him... LoLz..
I have been talking to iphone users n have given up a loooooong time ago.. To them iphone is "God", so when u threaten or question their God... U know what happens next,haha...

Battery Monitor Widget result sharing

I love Battery Monitor Widget it give me detail battery usage info of my N1. However I would like to compare with other N1 and Desire user of their battery performance.
I am not intend to conduct a systemic research but only a end user point of view and feel of our own battery states.
I would like to invite the other to provide the following simple info of your phone:
- Model
- ROM, version, kernel (if not bundle from the ROM itself)
- any apps using to control battery, eg: setCPU, toggle2G etc
- the min current consumption from your observation. (probable at night, someone may say some will disable the APN/Wifi and even in plane mode, I don't want to complicate this "simple" experience sharing, since data will tell the story)
- upload the History file to Paste Bin
I will going to upload mine one in short while and hope we can share our usage experience.
N1 Battery Monitor Widget result sharing
- N1
- CM7 nightly, [.37.3] intersectRaven's Kernel
- setCPU, toggle2G
- -20-30mA when sleep, usually with APN/Wifi off
- battery history file: http://pastebin.com/CVzbkE46

What do you use your phone for?

What are the purposes of your smaetphone, what do you use it MOST for, don't list all the apps you have, just why for you have a smartphone, and why do you have it over other phones??
I use my P500 the most on:
- surfing (fast network, it makes me homework sometimes...)
- music (I just love that Android can let you listen to music while doing absolutely ANYTHING! Except games and videos of course
- games!!! 99% of the apps are free, and the others have demos, then alternative markets so why not use the market???
- I also love that most apps are a better alternative to desktop website, which are too complex on PC... simplified UI on Android
So, what do YOU use your smartphone for??
My phone has literally replaced my computer/camera/books/cds/90% of the crap I used to carry in my wallet, and most of the time, reality.
every now and then I get a phone call.
*why even eat corn?
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Failure to comply with forum rules will result in an infraction and/or ban depending on severity of rule break.
I mainly use if for internet surfing (looking up quick facts about movies, actors, and tv shows) and for checking my email.
I downloaded several games, but I find I tend not to play them.
I mainly use it for calling . However, not all the time calling. In most of the time is used for listening to music, and in smaller-scale games.
reason why i have my phone?
- playing games
- calling to someone
- writting letters to friends (lol sms )
- checking emails
- do a crazy photos
and many more
RE: [Q] What do you use your phone for?
Here are the 5 main things I use my phone for:
1. Work
- Remote into other devices
- Testing mobile website
- Surfing the web
- Sending work e-mails
- Taking tech. calls
- Scheduling meetings
2. Facebook/G+/Twitter, Social Messaging
3. Non-work E-mails & Surfing
4. Google Voice / Skype / SMS
5. Games / Emulating SNES / NES
I used to always have a physical keyboard, but since I wanted something fast I am now on a SGS2 but still have a bluetooth fold-out kb.
Music, internet, mostly tether
Sent from my HTC_A510c using XDA App
Galaxy Nexus:
-E-mail/SMS/Music/Web
-Privacy apps
Nokia N900 (Once I get a new one)
Pentesting with neopwn =)
I use it to ease my school work
Calculations
Tables
review sheets
unit conventions
etcetera
music at school/calling
DarkLP said:
music at school/calling
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wait.. Someone actually uses there phone for calling???!!! WHAT HAS THE WORLD COME TO!!! ;P
playing games,
calling,
sms,
mail
Everything! Lol...
sms, mail, browsing on wikipedia when in a discussion comes out a big doubt xD
oh, yes, and calling
well let me see.
internet (a lot)
gaming a bit
SMS and calls ofcourse
and most importante, watch movies and series on my way home
Let's see...
- Music
- Internet stuff
- Social Networking (Facebook, twitter)
- Some games
- Emails
- Note taking (which is especially important for me being a student)
- I'm also starting to use Skype
- and the favorite... SMS and Calling. (And it just occurred to me that I can use my phone to call others! )
Phone
SMS
SoundHound for songs to add to my IPod (never while driving )
light web
voice recorder for notes/reminders
appointment book
weather radar
Email from a select few
finding and getting to places (GPS)
My Tracks to map and track our location when off-road riding. FYI, GPS works even without service. You may not have a satellite view tho. WARNING! High battery use!
With my low end device I have now, in order:
Internet
Music
Tools (Calc, Notes, timetable for school)
Calls/SMS
Youtube
Games
Camera (The CM7 camera isn't the best)
But when I get the Xperia S, Calls and SMS probably will be in last.
Sent for my X10 Mini Pro, running 2.3.7
If I helped, please press Thanks.
umm... Phone calls?
My Nexus S is my only phone, so phone calls even at home.
xda-dev of course,
PocketManga for when I'm waiting... I'm always waiting it seems.
Podcasts, CBC mostly.
Pimlical, the ultimate calendar/planner, I'd be lost without this, its my backup brain cell.
Reading in bed, my laptop has a 17.3in screen and weights in at 8lbs, smartphone is much lighter.
Music, bluetooth ear buds, no wire.

[IDEA]xda-forum stats-projector

I have an idea for an app, hereby going under the name of "stats-projector", but I'm no developer and do not wish to be either. I'll just throw the ball in and hope someone runs with it.
To explain the idea I'll start with explaining my inspiration for it:
Some years ago i played battlefield. In the bf-forums you could dl an app that synced your bf-stats to your forums profile. The basic stats were displayed below your avatar. If you clicked the stats you would go to a page showing more stats.
My idea is an add-on to the tapatalk xda-app that acesses your stats and sync them to your xda profile in the same manner as the bf-stats. Stats to show could be rom, kernel, bootloader, battery stats, uptime, usage monitor's output, running services and all other easy accessible stats. Such stats you'd monitor with a simple monitoring program dl:ed from market.
Why?
-Ppl like to brag with their setup and stats (me included)
-In dev's threads you'd be able to skip over much trivial exhange of info and save LOTS of time.
-Your reason added here
Why an add-on to tapatalk xda-app?
-Because to me it seems illogical for the stats-app to sync when a member isn't online.
-Privacy issues. You'd not wanna flaunt as to currently be running the service of xhamster.com webplayer (if any exists, just an example).
-I'd like the stats-projector to sync only when refreshing xda-app, or even more seldom (customizable), to reduce battery drain.
-In a future it would be possible to use the stats-projector with other forums that use tapatalk. Why stay with xda when we can have the entire Android commynity?
Misc:
*I want the stats-projector to be highly customizable, for privacy reasons and for reasons of battery drainage and data usage. These matters shouldn't be allowed to scare users away.
*I want the stats-projector to be skinnable and themeable, because ppl like that ****.
*I want much more, which I'll add when I come up with it.
*I want all the above because it will make the stats-projector a given add-on that most ppl use out of pure instinct.
I've tried this idea on a couple of ppl and posted this thread to try it on a larger crowd. Discuss and tell me in the thread if I should alter or add anything.
Also, plz help me find a snappier name for the app.
Almost 500 views and not a comment. Can anyone at least tell me it's a bad idea?
tihimasmo said:
I have an idea for an app, hereby going under the name of "stats-projector", but I'm no developer and do not wish to be either. I'll just throw the ball in and hope someone runs with it.
To explain the idea I'll start with explaining my inspiration for it:
Some years ago i played battlefield. In the bf-forums you could dl an app that synced your bf-stats to your forums profile. The basic stats were displayed below your avatar. If you clicked the stats you would go to a page showing more stats.
My idea is an add-on to the tapatalk xda-app that acesses your stats and sync them to your xda profile in the same manner as the bf-stats. Stats to show could be rom, kernel, bootloader, battery stats, uptime, usage monitor's output, running services and all other easy accessible stats. Such stats you'd monitor with a simple monitoring program dl:ed from market.
Why?
-Ppl like to brag with their setup and stats (me included)
-In dev's threads you'd be able to skip over much trivial exhange of info and save LOTS of time.
-Your reason added here
Why an add-on to tapatalk xda-app?
-Because to me it seems illogical for the stats-app to sync when a member isn't online.
-Privacy issues. You'd not wanna flaunt as to currently be running the service of xhamster.com webplayer (if any exists, just an example).
-I'd like the stats-projector to sync only when refreshing xda-app, or even more seldom (customizable), to reduce battery drain.
-In a future it would be possible to use the stats-projector with other forums that use tapatalk. Why stay with xda when we can have the entire Android commynity?
Misc:
*I want the stats-projector to be highly customizable, for privacy reasons and for reasons of battery drainage and data usage. These matters shouldn't be allowed to scare users away.
*I want the stats-projector to be skinnable and themeable, because ppl like that ****.
*I want much more, which I'll add when I come up with it.
*I want all the above because it will make the stats-projector a given add-on that most ppl use out of pure instinct.
I've tried this idea on a couple of ppl and posted this thread to try it on a larger crowd. Discuss and tell me in the thread if I should alter or add anything.
Also, plz help me find a snappier name for the app.
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I have android app development experience. Developing the app shouldn't be hard.
But I think an individual app will be easier. I am not sure (technically) how to access the resource of the tapatalk app. tapatalk must expose a intent service which can be called from the addon.
Tik hai, you're right. That's easier. There must also be cooperation on the part of xda-forum who must incorporate the projected stats in webpage for it to work.
I'll list stats I find relevant to include:
Kernel
ROM
Uptime
Battery use graph
Baseband
Storage overview
Time
Ringtone
Location?
Hboot
tihimasmo said:
Tik hai, you're right. That's easier. There must also be cooperation on the part of xda-forum who must incorporate the projected stats in webpage for it to work.
I'll list stats I find relevant to include:
Kernel
ROM
Uptime
Battery use graph
Baseband
Storage overview
Time
Ringtone
Location?
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I will get back to you once I am at home. On a vacation right now
Happy holidays
Bummppetty
I think this is a great idea, and might put an end to all the favorite ROM threads if you can have it poll the server and generate a list of who uses what.
Unfortunately I have no experience with programming and can't help with actual development.
Sent from my SGH-I777 using Tapatalk
the main problem with this is that people change roms and kernels sometimes up to 5 times a day. So keeping these stats are not really gonna be reliable.
Users can set poll frequency.
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The Downfall of Android OS (or What Happened after 4.4.x?)

First off - I'm a hater, okay? And this topic is complete hatred against what's called 'upgrade/development' of Android OS.
Second - I don't care at all if you disagree with me. I express my personal opinion and whoever feels the same – you’re welcome! For the rest - I just disagree with you! Totally, full, absolutely disagree and insist my opinion is right from my standpoint. Also I need to express what I think as this just helps me dissipate my anger which is a lot nowadays.
I'm going start like this: something wrong happened between Android OS ver. 4.4.x and 5.0.x and on... something terribly wrong! Why? -A 100 reasons... I'll give a few:
The total change of the background color from dark to light in App Menu/Settings, most stock applications: Dialer, Messages, etc. I simply don't get it! How on earth is it possible to completely transform the outlook of a system from one spectrum of the color to the other without giving a chance to choose between just two options, making my eyes hurt facing this bright display each time I turn it on, especially at night; and -please pay attention - almost all high-end Samsung device is equipped with AMOLED Display, and everybody knows, that this type of display consume power for emitting light for every pixel light up. It is a battery killer sentence!
Basically this change does only two things:
- Hurts my eyes
- Kills the battery
Why should it be necessary to spend time on unlocking bootloader, rooting phone and installing third-party applications just to be able to change the background color of the menus? This is complete non-sense to me!!! Seriously, guys, I'm not a programmer, but as far as I know, it's just a differences from #ffffff to #000000 - should it be that damn difficult? Really?
Recent Application List - Now if you compare the two designs on 4.4.x and 5.0.x you'll notice how neat and easy is to navigate on 4.4.x and how hard it is to distinguish between apps on 5.0.x. Simply by making a space between the apps, the mind can easily separate the information and quickly choose. Making an animated rolling stack of screens on 5.0.x is really confusing and not practical for me, period.
Melting the Wi-Fi and Network Signal bars as one - there used to be a distinguishable number of bars on both Wi-Fi and Network Signal on 4.4.x. It was very easy to tell if you have 2, 3 or 4 bars coverage. On 5.0.x they are just 'more' or 'less' - total stupidity. Moreover, the Wi-Fi had two arrows under the bars, which showed whether there is Download/Upload activity - very clever, very useful! Again - no (easy) option to choose between what I am used to; what worked well for me, and what the new design is.
Battery percentage - almost invisible - on 4.4.x. there was an option to choose between Battery in Bars or as Percentage. As I have never ever in my life thought I could use Bars for this purpose, the size of the text showing the Percentage was big enough, readable and clear. Now, on the 5.0.x the text is inside the battery icon, making it so tiny, I have to gaze in the screen. And since I'm using a phone with e-ink display as secondary display, it is almost impossible to read from it, making the presence of the e-ink display practically pointless in this regard. Again - I am forced to install third party app to have a regular size text, thus giving the phone's resources away!
Trend in Stock Applications Development - beside the white backgrounds, basic Google apps like Calendar, Clock, Maps, YouTube, Chrome, Drive, Gmail and so on, are ever more heavier, complicated, less responsive, more resource-consuming, more ads-annoying.
-The Calendar is totally messed-up.
-YouTube is full of sh't.
-So is Maps - should I drive or should I response to the hundred questions I've been constantly asked, Google Maps?
-Clock/Alarm has a funny colors, disproportionally big digits – total design flaw! (I actually had to pretend to be a programmer as I did decompile of the Clock 5.2, edited the code and recompile, using Apktool 2.3.0 (credits to iBotPeaches))
-And, guess what - I still use the Calculator, but I had to install ver. 1.0.6, because I simply can't stand how the buttons are melted together on ver. 6.0.1, so the fingers don't know where is the end of one button and the beginning of the other. And the History option is omitted (ARE YOU KIDDING ME?)! Total insanity!
-Google Search bar has a persistent presence on 5.0.1, so I was forced to Destroy it using gsb destroyer within Xposed Module Repository - why should I have to do that anyway, damn it!?
-Every update of Google Play services requires more space and RAM.
-Location, Wi-Fi usage and Statistical information send to the Google Servers are ever more hidden in the background, less accessible - total control of the Giant.
The list goes on and on and on…
//Slight off-topic: I have to admit that years ago I was freaking mad on having the latest version of every piece of software I got on my computer or on my smartphone. At one point I realized it's just pointless to 'repair something that works' and it is more or less like this with the current updates. So now I don't update something which serves its function.//
I believe the following philosophy applies to any business - if you sell a product on the market, which people like and are used to, a sudden change; a complete change overnight, will let many people down. Those who used to buy your product will be disappointed and might as well reorientate their interest to another brand. Constant supply and steady quality is vital!
If we have a look in the Nature - the changes/mutations aren't happening too fast; everything evolves step-by-step! Using the successful features of the predecessors, adapting and evolving gradually.
Google has a different approach - in my opinion they shoot in random directions, regardless of what has been achieved so far; regardless of the successful features; changing everything overnight. Well, I don't like that! It simply doesn't fit my needs. And I don't understand why should I change from soothing dark background to hurtful to my eyes light.
What I embrace and need is OPTIONS! I need to be able to choose what and how I want my device to look and act like. This gives me freedom to satisfy my preferences and be happy with MY choices. But this should not come with the price of countless hours of modifying and customizing by tedious programming. I'm not a developer, I'm not intending to become one, but that doesn't mean customization shouldn't be available for me. It's simple as that!
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There's probably a lot more to share on the topic, but I feel what I've said so far is giving me some sort of relief, so I'll stop here.
absolutely agree ; KK ftw.:good:
fear a life unlived , not death
I think some things are changed for the sake of changing. Development has somewhat become stale as new versions of Android continue to roll out with no earth shattering changes.
Brands are chasing each other and as a result we're getting bigger screens and better cameras. But software development isn't what it once was. ?
You have a Yota phone??¿????????????
shanegarm said:
You have a Yotaphone??¿????¿????¿??
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Is that a question and how is it related to the topic?
I've got several devices and I've had many others before - like most of the people in this forum. What I'm talking about here is software, which has little to do with hardware. That's another story; another topic.
tashev2078 said:
Is that a question and how is it related to the topic?
I've got several devices and I've had many others before - like most of the people in this forum. What I'm talking about here is software, which has little to do with hardware. That's another story; another topic.
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I was merely impressed with the fact that you had said device...
Well it's true that Android updates are hit/miss at the same time. However, the updates usually offer better battery management and performance so you end up getting them. I still use custom roms to get functionality that has been lost/changed such as the recents panel, the colors and so on...
ZareliMan said:
Well it's true that Android updates are hit/miss at the same time. However, the updates usually offer better battery management and performance so you end up getting them. I still use custom roms to get functionality that has been lost/changed such as the recents panel, the colors and so on...
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Is that really the reason most people want updates?
For me the improvements in battery and performance would have to be quite significant to would want to risk a stable and familiar system for it. My main reasons for sometimes regretting being stuck on 4.4.2 are security issues and compatibility problems with newer apps. The latter more than the former tbh - nowadays so many apps require at least LP
To add to the OP's list of things that were(/are) nice on KK, but seem to have been abolished on newer Androids: Lockscreen Widgets
Damn... Your life must be terrible without the option of choosing between two colors. I think whole life is messed up. So why not Android? You need to make the best off by yourself in life. So with Android too. Android gets bigger and bigger and has at least the option to make it yours. My opinion said xda becomes bigger and bigger about that. And we all got our own personalized phone. Or you have an iPhone? How easy life can be with options. My decision is without.

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