Database Info

'Not enough storage is available to complete this operation.' <-- Lies :/

OK im annoyed now - i flashed a new rom last month and it was beautiful up until last week ish when all my streaming apps just stopped working claiming that 'Not enough storage is available to complete this operation.' - i get this error message (or variations) in rss hub, windows media player, TCPMP, the streaming media app, youtube video just fails, and others. really starting to p*** me off now as i cant do anything with my phone
i have over a gig free on the storage card and over 200mb free of internal flash - what the hell is going on!?
if anyone can shed some light on this i would be most grateful
cheers
fusi

ok well i give up forum searches have suggested the only 'fix' is to hard reset. lol that totally sucks i havent figured out whats causing it - one day it was working - the next it wasnt im gonna flash genesis tonight sod it so im banking on that clearing it out - hope this doesnt happen again

Edit - nevermind.

Dunno what's going on, but maybe you needed to check your temp folders. I've found big files in \windows\temp before after streaming hulu and other videos.

Get a memory management software like Memaid or Advacnced Config. and be sure everything except for PIE cahes to your storage card.
Then clean your system.

Thanks for the suggestions guys - i re-flashed in the end but if it happens again ill do as you suggest - though im pretty sure i had loads of space free on the flash and sd as well as ram
cheers!

Are you sure the message was for storage memory and not just memory? You can run out of virtual program memory pretty easily on a lot of roms (just read the 6.5 thread in hacking), even if you have plenty of free ram.

the message i got was exactly as is displayed in the topic of this thread - nice and vague isnt it ^^;
im pretty sure there were no memory issues of any kind on the device at the time of the problem - everything worked apart from streaming - pretty sure the OS got itself confused somehow - hohum!

Try creating a folder in \windows called "cache". Then see if junk appears there (it may require a reset to work). In sk tools, it shows \windows\cache as a junk directory, but I think you have to create the folder to see it.

thats quite an ingenious suggestion - if it happens again ill have a look and report the findings ^^;
cheers
fusi

Don't get too excited yet, lol. Yesterday, I downloaded some youtube vids to main memory and then cut and paste them to my sd card. But the memory wasn't released for whatever reason, even though the files weren't showing up anymore. I deleted them with sk tools, but didn't think of making the cache folder til later. I haven't been able to replicate the un-released memory since then.

Ok, so I was messing around with youtube (watching Danger Island, lol). I found that if I opened total commander w/o closing youtube (used voice command), there are a bunch of temp files in the windows\youtube folder. There was a 3 MB .dat file and a 10 MB temp.3GP file. The latter was clearly the video. When I closed youtube, all the temp files disappeared. I suspect that something is going wonky with your temp files clearing out, or that watching big streaming vids dumps a massive file into main memory that gives the errors. The only way to find them is to look while the streaming app is running. (You can pause it, I'm sure).

apps not showing up?

I flashed Fresh 1.1 and MCK 1.2. Now I can't back up my apps using Titanium.. they just don't show up. I have tried reinstalling it, still nothing. Any ideas were they are? I have Root explorer and I can't find them with that either. Thanks every body for putting up with the newbs.

feefeeboomboom said:
I flashed Fresh 1.1 and MCK 1.2. Now I can't back up my apps using Titanium.. they just don't show up. I have tried reinstalling it, still nothing. Any ideas were they are? I have Root explorer and I can't find them with that either. Thanks every body for putting up with the newbs.
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How familiar are you with using ADB?
You can follow this thread to figure out how to see what APKs are listed under /system/app
See if you can find the APKs in these places with shell. I think most apps are installed to /data some where. I always have to ls to remember folder names lol.
Also do the programs Run? Are you using A2SD?

I have not installed APPS2SD. All the apps are in /data and they run. Even new apps I have installed don't show up. I also don't have any ext. on my sd card. This wasn't a problem intill I flashed fresh.
I also used that thread last month remove stock apps and all the ones I removed just force closed. I removed apk and odex.

Same issue here, but with just certain apps such as Teeter and HTC Ringtone Trimmer. I can install multiple times, but it won't work.
Also, if I go to settings and then manage apps, I see apps listed that were removed in Fresh 1.1 such as IM, Sprint IM, Amazon MP3, etc..
Net result, I am having issues with getting some apps to show up, cannot remove app links that are not on the phone and cannot get my phone to make any calls. When I call it I get an error message about google.com.phone not working. I tried unstilling some apps (only have about 49 installed by myself), kill tasks one by one and yet the phone will still not make or recieve calls.
Something strange going on here.
Ceger

This has to be an issue with Titanium, I can't see the ROM causing any type of issue like this. All that program should be doing is reading the app directory and listing whats available. I would track down the Dev and see if they are able to resolve.

Beta testers wanted: NES, tool to manage data partition

Update 03/08/11
NotEnoughSpace has finally graduated to the Android Marketplace!
Beta testers can currently get it at its "thank you" price of $0.99.
I will set the regular price in a week so hurry
*** *** *** ***
Note #1: your phone needs to be ROOTED to use this application.
Note #2: so far, only tested on Droid Incredible and HTC Desire.
From the built-in help:
About this application
This application's goal is to help you understand and possibly work around a common vexation of using Android; i.e. these messages:
"not enough space"
"Low on space. Application data space is low."
What is happening?
You've checked your phone's vitals and it appears that it has plenty of space left, both internal storage and SD Card storage. So, what's happening?
Android allows your applications to store their data, primarily, in a dedicated partition whose size happens to be much smaller than even the phone's internal storage space. Generally south of 150 MBs.
This is the partition that fills up so quickly and that Android has been complaining about.
And the help goes on and on so I'll stop here.
The short version
Using this application, you can see which applications use up most of your phone's data space and decide what to do with them.
You can also move the biggest directories to the phone's SD Card.
Additionally, you can use the app to cleanup the Dalvik cache but it's not the app's primary function.
Please, help test it!
I will gladly welcome any constructive criticism; I expect most of it to be along the lines of "The tool is not quite accurate" and that's what I wish to address first.
To create a debug report (these are very important):
Simply select the "Debug" menu and follow the on-screen instructions.
The whole email business is so that you can copy/paste from a desktop client.
The .apk can be downloaded from nexus.zteo.com/projects/beta/
Update 12/04/10
The application should now display correct stats for phones/ROMs that use Busybox. If you have already tested it and it said "NaN" please try it again.

This should be interesting, maybe kinda Android GpartED?

cyansmoker said:
Using this application, you can see which applications use up most of your phone's data space and decide what to do with them.
You can also move the biggest directories to the phone's SD Card.
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Curious, does this mean you can move and symlink data, or are you talking about Froyo Apps2SD?
teorouge said:
This should be interesting, maybe kinda Android GpartED?
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Obviously not, he's managing what's there, he's not partitioning anything.. Did you read?

khaytsus said:
Obviously not, he's managing what's there, he's not partitioning anything.. Did you read?
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Come on, what's the matter dude? I did read, and from what I read I thought whole partition handling was the only thing this app would be missing. Single files is a good start, but making that "kinda GpartED" would be killer. Though I fear you should be in bootloader/recovery to work on those, don't know how Android deals with them (i.e. in Windows you have programs you can change partitions size "on the fly" with). Now that I elaborated more, are you still angry?

This application would be genius. I'm wondering however, will the phone still be able to access that data once it is moved off of the system memory and onto the SD Card? And is it possible to actually partition the /data/data section so that it will use more than the allowed 150mb that it has, like open it up so that instead of it being partitioned to a small amount, it just roams free with the rest of the 748mb or whatever that is in the system memory.

A promising app, thanks.
Navigon, however, doesn't like its data to be moved to SD card. Even after moving it back with the app, it FCs (Android 2.1). I think I have to reinstall. So be careful if you're trying to do the same.
Edit: After reinstalling the .apk (without doing anything with the maps), Navigon works again. The packet installer didn't ask me if I wanted to replace the existing installation (as is otherwise usual in such a case).
Edit2: There seems to be a general problem. The next app I tried was mediaU. It has a large database which I moved (using NES) to the SD card. It also FCed after having moved its database, and restoring to the old location (again using NES) also didn't succeed. No error message during restore, but app still won't run.
Phone: Galaxy 3, Android 2.1 (original ROM).

mizch said:
A promising app, thanks.
Navigon, however, doesn't like its data to be moved to SD card. Even after moving it back with the app, it FCs (Android 2.1). I think I have to reinstall. So be careful if you're trying to do the same.
Edit: After reinstalling the .apk (without doing anything with the maps), Navigon works again. The packet installer didn't ask me if I wanted to replace the existing installation (as is otherwise usual in such a case).
Edit2: There seems to be a general problem. The next app I tried was mediaU. It has a large database which I moved (using NES) to the SD card. It also FCed after having moved its database, and restoring to the old location (again using NES) also didn't succeed. No error message during restore, but app still won't run.
Phone: Galaxy 3, Android 2.1 (original ROM).
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Tonight I'm gonna try for sure and report back, this does look promising! Did you succeed with some apps?

teorouge said:
Did you succeed with some apps?
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K9 seemed to work. However, I had to reflash for another reason, and now K9 reports its lib as being in the standard location (reported by NES). For now, I have stopped testing NotEnoughSpace so I can not say more.

mizch said:
K9 seemed to work. However, I had to reflash for another reason, and now K9 reports its lib as being in the standard location (reported by NES). For now, I have stopped testing NotEnoughSpace so I can not say more.
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eh? K9 has native use of the SD card if you enable it... Why would you use this on it?

Thanks for doing this testing, guys.
I will install these apps and test them myself.
teorouge: you moved the database/ directory, is that it?
mizch: so, you re-installed K9 after reflashing, right?
Everybody: what about the "free space" numbers reported by the app? Do they seem correct to you? I had to use a dedicated algo to compute them, taking block size in account, and I've had reports of fairly surprising discrepancies.

Free space doesn't seem to update after moving, though I see the difference in the Titanium Backup count: tried for a couple of apps (G Earth and well... don't remember!) and it did move everything, free up space on /data and I can still use those apps. Still afraid to move many apps, just moving one at the time and test.

I just tested it out on my Droid 1, which is running CM6.1RC5 (Not sure if thats relevant or not), and it doesnt seem to work very well on my phone. All apps came back as 4KB, at the top it showed this... Total:261.8MB Used:NaNKB Free: 259.1MB Database NaNKB Files: NaNKB Preferences:NaNKB Cache:NaNKB.
Heres the debug report: 1:/dev/block/mtdblock6 268032 224572 43460 84% /data
2:62855 /data/data
3:4096/0/265352

Sorry - never mind; found the info in FAQ.txt after downloading
cyansmoker said:
Note #1: your phone needs to be ROOTED to use this application.
Note #2: so far, only tested on Droid Incredible and HTC Desire.
From the built-in help:
About this application
This application's goal is to help you understand and possibly work around a common vexation of using Android; i.e. these messages:
"not enough space"
"Low on space. Application data space is low."
What is happening?
You've checked your phone's vitals and it appears that it has plenty of space left, both internal storage and SD Card storage. So, what's happening?
Android allows your applications to store their data, primarily, in a dedicated partition whose size happens to be much smaller than even the phone's internal storage space. Generally south of 150 MBs.
This is the partition that fills up so quickly and that Android has been complaining about.
And the help goes on and on so I'll stop here.
The short version
Using this application, you can see which applications use up most of your phone's data space and decide what to do with them.
You can also move the biggest directories to the phone's SD Card.
Additionally, you can use the app to cleanup the Dalvik cache but it's not the app's primary function.
Please, help test it!
I will gladly welcome any constructive criticism; I expect most of it to be along the lines of "The tool is not quite accurate" and that's what I wish to address first.
To create a debug report:
Simply select the "Debug" menu and follow the on-screen instructions.
The whole email business is so that you can copy/paste from a desktop client.
The .apk can be downloaded from nexus.zteo.com/projects/beta/
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Do you have more details about this program anywhere? I went to the download page but see no further info...

Help Section Typo
Under A Quick user guide in your user guide(?) that prompts when you run the apk for the first time there is a typo in the last sentence:
You can touch any application to explore its content and figure out what is taking up some much space.
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So far I havent run into any issues with the apk...

Not to burst anyones bubble, but Choose Install Location has been doing this in a comprehensive way for weeks. http://www.appbrain.com/app/choose-install-location-free/com.beidl.chooseloc

Free Memory?
bdt1995 said:
I just tested it out on my Droid 1, which is running CM6.1RC5 (Not sure if thats relevant or not), and it doesnt seem to work very well on my phone. All apps came back as 4KB, at the top it showed this... Total:261.8MB Used:NaNKB Free: 259.1MB Database NaNKB Files: NaNKB Preferences:NaNKB Cache:NaNKB.
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I'm having the same problem as bdt1995. Running CM 6.1 RC1.. the only difference is the total memory is 196.2 and the free is:194.3 MB cuz I'm using a Nexus.. CM6 might be the problem?

bdt1995 said:
I just tested it out on my Droid 1, which is running CM6.1RC5 (Not sure if thats relevant or not), and it doesnt seem to work very well on my phone. All apps came back as 4KB, at the top it showed this... Total:261.8MB Used:NaNKB Free: 259.1MB Database NaNKB Files: NaNKB Preferences:NaNKB Cache:NaNKB.
Heres the debug report: 1:/dev/block/mtdblock6 268032 224572 43460 84% /data
2:62855 /data/data
3:4096/0/265352
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Same here (total 196.2MB, Free 194.3MB, all apps 4KB), system details in my sig. Using apps2sdext, over 200 apps.
Debug info:
Code:
1:/dev/block/mtdblock5 200960 112144 88816 56% /data
2:96070 /data/data
3:4096/0/198951

Same problem as above with Cyanogen 6.02, However it looks promising.
I Think that moving data to standard SD can leads to security issue, because SD can be readed and written by any apps. Should be better if the app recognize /EXT partition, if exist, and move data here.

i'd like to try it and i get my lil sis to try it also she gets this problem a lot i have the droid incredible and my sis has the droid eris.

bdt1995, rnh16, britoso, mmorselli:
Thanks for the debug info. Indeed Cyanogen is a tad "exotic" for NES at this point.
Please download the latest version of NES -- I just uploaded it. It contains an extra debug line which should allow me to make it work so please paste your debug output here one more time.
JerseyFF:
Oops, thanks.
lhinsz:
Because it is a beta version, it hasn't been released yet and all the information you may need is contained in the Help screen. I tried to make it comprehensive.
BigNate:
Should work with HTC devices, yes. Could you or you sister paste her phone's debug screen here?
Zandog:
I do not think that both apps share the same goal so no lives should be lost (Seriously, not much of a bubble to burst?)

Odd file explorer/file association problem

Hi.
So, this is what happened.
Was watching an avi movie on Rockplayer, and I paused it and turned the screen off and forgot about it till this morning when I tried to turn it on and the battery was completely dead and it was off.
I charged it up and left it.
This afternoon when I tried out the new Micro SD card, I navigated to the folder to play a video off it with ES explorer and when I clicked on the file. the screen went greyed and nothing happened.
The file was an mp4, so it should have at least launched and asked if I wanted to play in stock or rock player or whatever, but nothing.
I tried file explorer HD, IO explorer and from the gallery and it just wouldn't play and of the mp4's from internal or external memory, just the same thing... greyed out screen and nothing.
AVI's play fine from the explorers, booting straight into rockplayer and playing, but it seems that files that would normally ask me which app to use, no longer work, including docx files.
If I go to rock player, it seems to work fine, just not from the explorers. Also the stock video app won't play them either when I navigate through it to them.
Quick office pro will open docx files from within as well.
So, to try fix this I went into the app settings and force stopped and cleared cache of everything that might be even remotely related, recking my layout in the process.
Still no joy.
So, I'm guessing it has something to do with the file associations or something.
Any ideas?
If not, how I do I safely wipe to default. It is stock US wifi with 3.2.
Or is it time for me to finally give in and root and try a kernel that actually works with the Micro SD?
If so can anyone point me in the right direction, if I do pick one, it must be really stable!
I'm not particularly attached to any of the data on the Xoom, I have backed up and can get it all again.
Thanks in advance
Cheers
Jayd

SnakeManJayd said:
Hi.
So, this is what happened....
This afternoon when I tried out the new Micro SD card, I navigated to the folder to play a video off it with ES explorer and when I clicked on the file. the screen went greyed and nothing happened.
...
AVI's play fine from the explorers, booting straight into rockplayer and playing, but it seems that files that would normally ask me which app to use, no longer work, including docx files...
Cheers
Jayd
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Try this: when the screen goes grey (at the time when you should have a dialog box popup asking which application you want to use) just rotate the Xoom, making it redraw the dialog box. It is said that once this is done, the problem won't appear again with that app.
let us know if it works.

Thanks for the quick reply.
That is great advice
Unfortunately, I was hasty to get it working and I unlocked and rooted my Xoom.
Ya, that was dumb, I know, since I now made this whole thread pointless. Although now at least other people might find your advice and be able to try it.
Sorry about that. And yes, as expected, unlocking did fix it since it wiped the data.
Thanks

Although, now that I have joined the rooting ranks, what is the Tiamat Xoom Rom 2.1 "Hammerhead" like?
Is it stable? Does it still have all the Xoom functionality? Does it work with the SD nicely?
What motivated you to go to it?
Ya, I know they have the Dev section, but it is way too much information everywhere.

Got bored again and also installed the Tiamat Xoom Rom 2.1 "Hammerhead" ROM. It's really cool. I like that the things that were supposed to be fixed by moto-goog are now fixed. Thanks devs

SnakeManJayd said:
Got bored again and also installed the Tiamat Xoom Rom 2.1 "Hammerhead" ROM. It's really cool. I like that the things that were supposed to be fixed by moto-goog are now fixed. Thanks devs
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Great! You know you would have rooted eventually, this problem just gave you the justification.
Keep the screen rotate fix in mind...the problem you encountered seems to be from the HC3.2 update, and it may happen again.

Is this malware?

I randomly started getting 2 notifications; one saying I had low memory, a second that I was running out of space. When I clicked on the notification, I get 'attached image' screen. (I have never clicked on the start test button, it's big, and red... It scares me!)
I've done a fair bit of searching but can't find any topics/posts (searching "speed up your Android" is a bit of a nightmare...)
So, yeah. Has anyone seen this before? I have removed the last 3-4 apps I installed, but no change. I was using L launcher until it started overriding my screen with ads for a couple of apps. This would occur when I had installed a new app via playstore. After uninstalling, those ads have gone..
Any thoughts or help will be appreciated.
Cheers,

Franklee99 said:
I randomly started getting 2 notifications; one saying I had low memory, a second that I was running out of space. When I clicked on the notification, I get 'attached image' screen. (I have never clicked on the start test button, it's big, and red... It scares me!)
I've done a fair bit of searching but can't find any topics/posts (searching "speed up your Android" is a bit of a nightmare...)
So, yeah. Has anyone seen this before? I have removed the last 3-4 apps I installed, but no change. I was using L launcher until it started overriding my screen with ads for a couple of apps. This would occur when I had installed a new app via playstore. After uninstalling, those ads have gone..
Any thoughts or help will be appreciated.
Cheers,
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That picture tells me you don't own your device, someone else does. For starters, reinstall your current rom with the complete wipe and I mean wiping internal sd too. Remove your simcard before rebooting. Then get root, because if you don't, that would mean that Android system owns your phone. Just because you don't have root does not mean that system apps don't: They do (and you don't). So, get root, set it up for prompt and deselect "trust system user". You don't want to trust anything. Second, get Afwall from F-Droid and allow internet only for apps you use: browser, messaging etc. Don't allow system apps to connect to the internet. I mean none. Second, don't get any app that has ads. Period. If you do, you will always end up in a situation shown on your photo. There are many more things you can do: just read this forum, but these limited steps should protect you from major threats.

Ah, bugger. Thought that may be the response...
When do I reinsert sim card? And I'm guessing I can't use the .zip of the ROM currently stored in my internal storage?
Thanks for your reply.

Franklee99 said:
Ah, bugger. Thought that may be the response...
When do I reinsert sim card? And I'm guessing I can't use the .zip of the ROM currently stored in my internal storage?
Thanks for your reply.
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You can reinsert the sim card once you setup the firewall and whitelist the apps that are allowed internet access (all others - denied). You can still use zip files that contain a good rom. You can flash that rom and then format SD card before rebooting (you can also transfer known good apps to your external SD or PC and later put them back).

optimumpro said:
You can reinsert the sim card once you setup the firewall and whitelist the apps that are allowed internet access (all others - denied). You can still use zip files that contain a good rom. You can flash that rom and then format SD card before rebooting (you can also transfer known good apps to your external SD or PC and later put them back).
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Okay, cool. So to confirm, you don't believe any .zip or .apk that I'm 100% sure were safe downloads (roms, gapps, playstore backup apks etc), might be infected? (They are stored in internal storage (HTC M7)). I was going to clear everything but if you believe them to be safe I'll keep some of my backed-up apps etc to save redownloading again.. (My current rom and gapps files too for that matter...)
Thanks for taking the time to help me out. :good:

Also, is there a windose virus scanner that's any good at scanning .apks etc for Android nasties??
Thanks.

Franklee99 said:
Okay, cool. So to confirm, you don't believe any .zip or .apk that I'm 100% sure were safe downloads (roms, gapps, playstore backup apks etc), might be infected? (They are stored in internal storage (HTC M7)). I was going to clear everything but if you believe them to be safe I'll keep some of my backed-up apps etc to save redownloading again.. (My current rom and gapps files too for that matter...)
Thanks for taking the time to help me out. :good:
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There is no way I can tell you that the apps or roms you have (which are unknown to me) are safe. It is your call. There is plenty of garbage in playstore. I, for example, don't use gapps or anything Google. I have no google services framework, so there is no way for Google to know what is on my device. Google even does not know I have android: when I login to my gmail (using web browser), I get an e-mail saying someone using Linux just logged in the account). So, I would transfer internal SD somewhere else and then examine each app (you can do it in store) to see if there are any ads. Apps that have ads are no go...
Good luck.