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Cupcake US Release Date: May 11

I received an official notification that cupcakes US release will start around may 11 and be rolled out in waves.
More info can be found: http://droiddeveloper.com/

so late :-(

From what i have heard they wanted to put some last minute tweaks into it to make sure that it was more user friendly.

wyinsz said:
so late :-(
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i agree....we get everything last

I believe it was to give developers time to get their stuff compatible, so that t-mobile service wasn't swamped with calls from people having problems which stem from incompatible apps.

how are updates going to work if i have a modded rc33? w/root

mikedmeyer said:
I believe it was to give developers time to get their stuff compatible, so that t-mobile service wasn't swamped with calls from people having problems which stem from incompatible apps.
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yes i agree but why did UK and Germany get it b4 the US when the g1 hit the US 1st

chrisag92 said:
yes i agree but why did UK and Germany get it b4 the US when the g1 hit the US 1st
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- Because they didn't have to make sure Amazon Marketplace, MyFaves, Yahoo IM, MSN IM, & AIM would work on it.
- Because a different management team controls Europe than the one that controls the US, and they made different decisions about how long to wait before releasing it.
Pick one.

trevordbs said:
how are updates going to work if i have a modded rc33? w/root
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You will not receive normal OTA updates from T-mobile. You can either upgrade manually or download the JF Updater from the market.

chrisag92 said:
i agree....we get everything last
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I beg to differ
What about games, movies, consoles etc etc
Europe always get them last lol

lithrin said:
I beg to differ
What about games, movies, consoles etc etc
Europe always get them last lol
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i didn't know we got games and all that first lol
but im talking about this OTA stuff lol i need it 1 more week is to long

will it have any differences from the official update and the one on HTC page??

sandrosilva said:
will it have any differences from the official update and the one on HTC page??
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i think so because the one on htc was also for developers
so there should be a little more stability i think and that's about it

sandrosilva said:
will it have any differences from the official update and the one on HTC page??
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Of course it will. The one on the HTC page is for the Android Developer Phone, not the US G1. The US G1 version will take away root and add MyFaves, Amazon Market, and Yahoo, MSN, and AOL IM.

i find the htc's 1.5 still really choppy and laggy.. kinda dissapointed with it

I wonder how much of a difference there will be other than Tmobile apps of course.

I got tired of waiting and upgraded myself last night,I also got root access.Tmobile and HTC can shove it up their ass.....we US users pay the highest prices,get the phone first and we have to wait.
The new 1.5 cupcake comes with some nice new features but still kinda laggy,but it´s worth it.

I also see absolutely no reason to wait. JF1.5 ftw.

chrisag92 said:
yes i agree but why did UK and Germany get it b4 the US when the g1 hit the US 1st
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Having the update coming out first doesn't mean its good, the US may want to modify its update by looking at the other updates to make it perfect

Something that a really like on the 1.5 is the option to select high quality on youtube.
The on-screen keyboard is nice too for quick texting but the buttons are quite small.. since g1 screen is smaller than the iphone.. other than that scrolling is still choppy.. battery still need A LOT of improvements.. btw i dont really know why g1's battery sux so hard since the cpu is clocked at mediocres ~240mhz - ~380mhz max instead of 528mhz.. oh yeah gps is better now.. works even inside buildings for the most part.

copilot 8

Has any one tried Copilot 8 yet, I have tried several times to buy it via download but always get an error message.

wulls said:
Has any one tried Copilot 8 yet, I have tried several times to buy it via download but always get an error message.
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I had problems installing CoPilot from the danish website, and tried contacting their help-line...
Apparently, again I can only speak for the danish variant, the version on their website doesn't work for TD2. But HTC.com has a version under "support" that works beautifully with the TD2, and that's the one CoPilot's supporter told me to download.
So try and download that, and see if it works for you.
*fingers crossed*

Wulls,
I considered upgrading and checked it out on CoPilot's website only to discover that CP Live 8 is not compatible (either as a new download, or an upgrade) for TD2s or TP2s that came with the original 15-day trial version, even though the general compatibility chart states both handsets are compatible with CPL8.
So if yours, like mine, came with that trial version, then you will not be able to upgrade, which seems absolutely stupid to me.
I wonder however if you flashed a new ROM (most if not all of which wouldn't include to CP7 trial), then you be able to download it (CPL8) as a new instal (which costs just 3GBP more).
My first venture away from Tomtom (and I've regretted it for the most part)!

I forgot to mention I already purchased Copilot Live 7 for my Diamond 2 in May as no nav software came with it. Here is the reply from Alk when I explained this to them.
Thank you for contacting CoPilot Technical Support.
"I am confirming that indeed that the HTC Touch Diamond 2 without pre-installed copilot(trial version) will be able to upgrade copilot 8"
When I contacted them about not being able to download the upgrade They "think" that there is a problem with their server this is why I cannot download it, have been waiting two days for a reply

I dont have co-pilot7 pre installed and ive just brought co-pilot8 trying to install now.....

WORKING
Ive just got it working, no problems what so ever, guess u need to have a devise which didnt orginally have copilot pre installed

Lamsebamsen said:
I had problems installing CoPilot from the danish website, and tried contacting their help-line...
Apparently, again I can only speak for the danish variant, the version on their website doesn't work for TD2. But HTC.com has a version under "support" that works beautifully with the TD2, and that's the one CoPilot's supporter told me to download.
So try and download that, and see if it works for you.
*fingers crossed*
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is that V8 you got from there or V7 ?
i have writting to the danish support to get an answer if i have to pay or if i can update my V7 for free, havent got any answer yet.

wulls said:
I forgot to mention I already purchased Copilot Live 7 for my Diamond 2 in May as no nav software came with it. Here is the reply from Alk when I explained this to them.
Thank you for contacting CoPilot Technical Support.
"I am confirming that indeed that the HTC Touch Diamond 2 without pre-installed copilot(trial version) will be able to upgrade copilot 8"
When I contacted them about not being able to download the upgrade They "think" that there is a problem with their server this is why I cannot download it, have been waiting two days for a reply
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I can't download it either! Anyone managed to get the download working?

CerB said:
is that V8 you got from there or V7 ?
i have writting to the danish support to get an answer if i have to pay or if i can update my V7 for free, havent got any answer yet.
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It would have been version 8...
But I ended up finding a different sollution, since their support took ages to answer even the simplest of questions.
I had contact with them both by email and by phone...
It took almost 2½ weeks for me to get an answer on what to do, and that was after calling them.
I rarely use support/helplines, but when I do I expect to get a quick reply...

that got to be the dummest firm i ever did buy something from, my TD2 came with a CD with 15 days trial. i quickly buy the europe maps, now i cant upgrade to the newest V8, it says my product cant be upgraded. **** thats lame.
i will wait and see what their support says about that.
or els i have to move on to TOMTOM or something like that.
to bad my licens is only 3 months old........

I downloaded v8 from the UK website (I live in Germany and the German site doesn't as yet have v8 on offer). It took ages to download as the transfere speed never exceeded 42kb/sec, even though I have a DSL6000 line. But once I had all the files on the desktop it only took a minute or two to transfere to my SD card.
I have used it a few times to test on routes that I normally use for work and it works great. GPS aquisition is much faster than with my old TT6, and route planning is also very fast. Also, if you don't follow the turns that Co-Pilot suggests, it will very quickly re-plan a route for you.
Co-Pilot Live8 cost me €29.99 (£25) from the UK Co-Pilot site, which is amazingly cheap. For Co-Pilot 7 from the Germany site it would have cost me €70!! So if you are looking for a good, working, legal (NOT WAREZ!!) navi software then it would be worth taking a look at http://www.alk.eu.com/copilot/
I have this running on my Diamond 2. Works in Portrait and Landscape modes. I am very happy with it and would recommend anyone to at least have a look at the website I mentioned above. Sadly there is no trial version, which is offered by some other navi firms, such as Navigon (30 day trial of their latest software!!).

[email protected] said:
I downloaded v8 from the UK website (I live in Germany and the German site doesn't as yet have v8 on offer). It took ages to download as the transfere speed never exceeded 42kb/sec, even though I have a DSL6000 line. But once I had all the files on the desktop it only took a minute or two to transfere to my SD card.
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Yes but how did you download it? I got sent the link to the site, but when I put the required details in it just keeps bouncing saying incorrect information - even though I'm using the exact same details they sent to me in their order confirmation!
Do you have a different URL to the one they sent in the email?

Guys, the version 7 software for the TD2 is the same in data and functionality as the new version 8

Darrenives said:
Yes but how did you download it? I got sent the link to the site, but when I put the required details in it just keeps bouncing saying incorrect information - even though I'm using the exact same details they sent to me in their order confirmation!
Do you have a different URL to the one they sent in the email?
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You must be entering it in wrong, i did the same a few time dont copy and paste it type it in as its case sensitive

BigKuri said:
Guys, the version 7 software for the TD2 is the same in data and functionality as the new version 8
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I download 7 and now ive got 8, theres loads of improvements....see there site.

B1CEP said:
I download 7 and now ive got 8, theres loads of improvements....see there site.
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I have both the TD2-specific flavour of v7 CoPilot as well as version 8 in front of me.
Sure they have changed the menu slightly on v8, but TD2-version7 has all the same functions - local search, live weather, etc.. Also the TD2v7 maps I downloaded are same as the v8 maps.
Unless different country versions are different?... Who knows.

can someone upload the cab file from the 2577 folder ? would be fun to see what happens if i installed it.

B1CEP said:
You must be entering it in wrong, i did the same a few time dont copy and paste it type it in as its case sensitive
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Finally got it. Wasn't entering the wrong info, just that their server was knackered / slow / down. After 20 mins of going in and trying again every couple of minutes, hey presto it actually connected and allowed the download!

Was talking to my friend at ALK who said they have been caught a bit short due to the shear popularity of their iPhone and Android releases - proving hugely popular, especially at the current price.

Co-Pilot 8
Abosolute bargain, just got it for my TD2 £25.99 off ALK website, works great and is slightly better than V7.

[Q] Someone please post the manual when it's available

Since different European carriers might release this phone in the next week or so I decided to post this.
Supposedly the tmous version won't be out til the 8th of next month so if any of you European readers out there get a hold of the phone soon, please post a link to where I can download the manual for the phone. I'd love to read through it.
Thanks

Same here ! I would also like to read it.

any update on this from the UK users?

Here's the manual from the UK. Enjoy!

awesome. where was this stored online at?

It was on the SD-Card of my HTC Sensation which I got yesterday!

Thanks. I've perused it all (and actually read carefully the parts that interested me). I think I will definitely enjoy upgrading

sjgore said:
It was on the SD-Card of my HTC Sensation which I got yesterday!
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that's a pretty awesome way to give you the manual. I forgot what they did for the HD2 & TP2

great Keep it up
Sjgore Nice and great post bro. Thx for the manual.

thanks again. htc now has it on their site & it has a different file name (newer date of 20110506) but they are practically the same. Only 1 thing was changed. read it all & I'm excited!

xnifex said:
thanks again. htc now has it on their site & it has a different file name (newer date of 20110506) but they are practically the same. Only 1 thing was changed. read it all & I'm excited!
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What was changed? I skimmed the original one and don't feel like skimming the new one if I can help it

iirc, the recommend button info on the music app was taken out & the amazon part is missing in the screenshot. i forgot what the second thing that was taken out and/or added was.

xnifex said:
iirc, the recommend button info on the music app was taken out & the amazon part is missing in the screenshot. i forgot what the second thing that was taken out and/or added was.
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Thanks. When I said I skimmed it I meant skimmed the words but looked at aaaaall the pages. You saved me a great effort.

ha i actually had both up to find out what was different. yay win7 & their pin to left/right of the screen. the spacing is different on a few pages & there are only 2 differences: the one I listed & I forgot the other.
*edit*
on the newer on page 29 is not in the one posted above

Anyone that may have the Tmobile US version already want to upload the manual that's loaded on their storage card please? thanks

Anyone who got the US version want to upload the manual from their microSD card? I wanna see if anything has changed.
thanks

Just got the tmous version. odd that it doesn't have the manual on the storage card. :-(

T-Mobile HTC Sensation manual
T-Mobile HTC Sensation manual
http://support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm30413.pdf

onxda said:
T-Mobile HTC Sensation manual
http://support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm30413.pdf
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even better, if you want it straight from HTC:
http://www.htc.com/us/support/sensation4g-tmobile/downloads/
I find it weird that tmous didn't include it on the storage card like all of the EU carriers did. It's not like your average user is going to go to tmobile's web site to download it.

[OTA]Vodafone UK OTA is now available 1.35.161.2

Just recieved a notification and the the OTA for Vodafone UK users is now available for download
update 1.35.161.2 Android 2.3 which is 27.32MB is size.
-application and system enhancements
- UK only: Vodafone Rescue application update.

Kurisu87 said:
Just recieved a notification and the the OTA for Vodafone UK users is now available for download
update 1.35.161.2 Android 2.3 which is 27.32MB is size.
-application and system enhancements
- UK only: Vodafone Rescue application update.
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any change after update ???
speed
lag
touch sensetivity
apps
????????

Im on voda UK and still not getting this... Says no update available. am i doing somthing wrong?!

Updates tend to be staggered so keep trying. This is, of course, assuming you're on 1.27.161.1 at present

Yay!!
I'm downloading now
About time! Though having said that, the unbranded one was only rolled out last week, so not too long after I guess?
Umm... it's only 27.32 Mb???

xdafun4all said:
any change after update ???
speed
lag
touch sensetivity
apps
????????
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I have not yet installed the updade due to being at work (For some reason I cant bum off their wifi network) Hopfully some of the other users who have had a chance to update would be able to answer this question

charmz2k2 said:
Yay!!
I'm downloading now
About time! Though having said that, the unbranded one was only rolled out last week, so not too long after I guess?
Umm... it's only 27.32 Mb???
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It's only a small update, some bug fixes and the like. It's normal

Ah I see -
I'm not sure where I read, but for some reason I thought it was about 330 Mb!?
hmm...
Ok, well it's installed and now loading up
Will give you feedback in a few mins

Hmm....
Nothing spectacular at the moment...
Scrolling is smooth (it was smooth initially anyways though)...
Got a score of 1900 on Quadrant, whereas I was getting 1800 up till now...
Something is synchronising constantly for the last few minutes (the two arrows in a circle), that's about it at the moment
Really need to test this at home - hopefully the signal issue is fixed! (Kept dropping randomly)

charmz2k2 said:
Ah I see -
I'm not sure where I read, but for some reason I thought it was about 330 Mb!?
hmm...
Ok, well it's installed and now loading up
Will give you feedback in a few mins
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The full RUU is about 400MB but the OTA is small. The article was for a test OTA and was quite large though

Since update
360 voda music tab in music player. Can't remove it
Video player sound is fixed after testing avi file.
Feels more smother.
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360 voda music tab in music player
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Can this not be removed via root or editing the music apk?
vodafone are cheaky bast**ds

That signature looks strangely familiar
Does seem Operators are getting more involved with FW again - really wish they wouldn't!!

EddyOS said:
That signature looks strangely familiar
Does seem Operators are getting more involved with FW again - really wish they wouldn't!!
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You caught me Hope you don't mind , I though my sig looked a buit Naff with nothing in it, lol
but yea, I wish voda would let the OS be, yea ok maybe add an app thats of use, but messing about with stock apps, thats not what I am paying for. I am hoping that rooting s-off will get rid of this vodafone restriction.
I a ( and have asked in the QA section) if it was possible to do what you could do with the old nokias, and thats edit the phones product code so that it would install the offical OTA update (i.e the Eu standard) rather than the branded one.

Also for Ireland
Also now available for Vodafone Ireland. They're possibly the same version of firmware though.

Kurisu87 said:
You caught me Hope you don't mind , I though my sig looked a buit Naff with nothing in it, lol
but yea, I wish voda would let the OS be, yea ok maybe add an app thats of use, but messing about with stock apps, thats not what I am paying for. I am hoping that rooting s-off will get rid of this vodafone restriction.
I a ( and have asked in the QA section) if it was possible to do what you could do with the old nokias, and thats edit the phones product code so that it would install the offical OTA update (i.e the Eu standard) rather than the branded one.
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I don't mind at all mate!!
The gold card that worked on previous HTC handsets would've done the job here too but seems it doesn't with the Sensation at present (which worked in much the same way as old Nokia handsets in that it hid the phone real product code)

hopfully they are working on the gold card, I have seens ome threads regarding development and testing of the gold card, but I assume this is more likly to work when s-off has been achieved.

Once we have S-OFF we can go custom so stock RUUs will be pointless. Just use a custom ROM based on the stock ROM!

Have they done anything sneaky in it that will effect s-off later or is the H-Boot the same? I know the last update for the Legend from Vodafone made it a lot more awkward to root it and at the moment neither Htc nor Vodafone have said if Vodafone will allow s-off. Just a bit scared to update and be ****ed later.

well i asked this on the vodafone forum and the mods replied stating that they don't see why Vodafone would not allow the s-off update to go through. I guess its a good sign when you dont just get the generic 'We don't know at this time'
also I am guessing with a modded rom, this would be better than a stock rom, yet how would you go about getting updates for a modded rom? Just wait for a modder to release an update, also with a modded rom, do they just use the base rom i.e euro standard.

TMOUSA Update:1.84.531.2 710RD Check-in

Anyone able to grab it yet? Please post your thoughts, and findings!
FYI: http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4262
Android version 4.0.3 / Software version 84.531.2 710RD - Current version
Version
Android version 4.0.3 / Software version 1.84.531.2 710RD
Updated 6/41/2012
Improvements
Resolves goodbye splash not appearing when powering off due to low battery.
Resolves voicemail indicator not appearing while using Wi-Fi calling.
Improvements to Wi-Fi Calling
Improvements to camera stability
Resolves signal fluctuation.
Prerequisites
OTA update
Device is running Android version 4.0.3 / Software version 1.53.531.76 710RD
Device software is not rooted
More than 50% battery life
Data connection
350 MB available memory (File size of update is 24.2 MB)
Android version 4.0.3 / Software version 1.53.531.16 710RD
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Update:You cannot use 'Check for new updates' to force update. You must now wait for the gods to push it to you.....
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/06/t-mobile-updates-support-doc-for-htc-one-s-update-now-ota-only/
Update 2: YES YOU CAN!!!

search before post?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1681977

mannequin said:
search before?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1681977
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That thread was discussing the upcoming ota and being ready for it.
This thread is a post update discussion. Also that thread was cleverly and so descriptively named 'update'. I hope to keep this one uncluttered and on topic.

Plus this one is actually in the proper location. So you should probably go troll somewhere else that doesn't make you look ignorant.
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I tried to do a manual update and it says that no update is available. Device is completely stock. I'll try again later.
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I am on the east coast USA. Tried manually, changing date and time, and rebooting. Still no update
Sent from my HTC One S

So let's say it comes thru for me. Is there a way to pull the location of the update so as to be able to share it?
Sent from my HTC One S

eminembdg said:
So let's say it comes thru for me. Is there a way to pull the location of the update so as to be able to share it?
Sent from my HTC One S
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I think you have to have the phone plugged in and ADB running to watch the verbatim actions on the phone? (someone can chime in)
So ANY success at all? I'm on east coast and checking for update with no luck

Still nothing, and I keep checking. Also got an email reply from htc about source code. I posted the reply in general section
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I have been checking too and nothing so far.
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T-Mobile USA
stock

6370 said:
I have been checking too and nothing so far.
Sent from my HTC One S
T-Mobile USA
stock
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Spoke with TMOBILE customer service and they don't have a clue they said we need to wait... if anyone gets it please Upload it someplace...

6370 said:
I have been checking too and nothing so far.
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T-Mobile USA
stock
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I've been checking all day... :banghead:
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DownloaderZ said:
>> Improvements to camera stability
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I hope improvements to 'camera stability' means improvements for when the camera:
isn't playing nice with multi-tasking,
isn't sleeping properly,
might be the cause of phone over heating,
might be the cause of random reboots,
might be the source of battery drain...
15:00 EST. "There are no updates available for your phone."

Chill out everyone. They have a 2-3 week window to roll out the update. It is Monday morning, and you know how Monday's are. I wouldn't expect to start seeing anything until later today or even tomorrow.

WCCobra said:
Chill out everyone. They have a 2-3 week window to roll out the update. It is Monday morning, and you know how Monday's are. I wouldn't expect to start seeing anything until later today or even tomorrow.
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While I get what you're saying, it's hard for me to remain calm considering how erratic my signal is. Sometimes the phone just decides it has no sim card even though it does. Data hanging? Yep, I got that. Sporadic text notifications or lack thereof? Check. Having my phone function just as a phone would ease my nerves a little bit but as it stands it does it's own thing and it seriously affects my day to day.
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Have you tried the EU update yet? I would suspect this US update is going to be very similar to what is already available in Europe.

WCCobra said:
Have you tried the EU update yet? I would suspect this US update is going to be very similar to what is already available in Europe.
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to be honest I hope it wont be that similar. I am on 1.78, sim free phone, and it reboots sporadicly when switching from hsdpa to wifi.... I am crossing my fingers that the new radio included in 1.84 will solve this.

From another forum post:
craigmjamieson said:
You are all just going to love this. According to the tech I was working with, we are going to have to wait for the OTA update notification before we can download. The wording on the website regarding manual download immediately is incorrect. You can only do that in the case where maybe you accidentally dismissed the OTA notification. He tells me that most notifications are received within 72 hours
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OhToSee said:
From another forum post:
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I thought it was too nice of them to allow the enthusiasts to make a run on their servers.
Do we even have 1 confirmation of this being out yet?

http://www.tmonews.com/2012/05/htc-...l-improve-software-stability-begins-tomorrow/
Update: T-Mobile has altered the support document to reflect a change in the date, now June 4th through July 7th.