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SD Card Wiped!

Hey All-
I thought the issue with SD card would have been fixed with the T-mobile WM2003 ROM update (4.01.16). Although I am not sure if that is what did it. I did not have the problem until I updated ActiveSync (v3.7.1 - Build 4034) when it came out about a week ago. I have an ActiveSync backup file (backup.stg) from BEFORE I upgraded all of this (a different partnership as well). Is there a way to extract the data from that file to restore my SD card?
Many Thanks

Out of curiosity, what brand of SD card are you using? I'm using a Kingston 512 mB but have read on a few forums problems with the Kingston loosing content in the XDA II. I have not experienced the problem.
Ed

No this problem still persists, I've used a PNY,Sandisk & Panasonic SD card in my XDA I running WM2003 4.01.16 and it blows them all away. I've tried everything and all the ROM from's YORCH'S Kitchen. They obviously only tested the XDA ROM'[email protected] T-Mobile without any SD memory attached at all, and couldn't have cared for customer feedback. However, saying that it's suprising the amount of PDA users I know, whom don't have additional memory attached. I hope there's a resolution soon, in which ever form, upgrade, reg-keys anything to stop this annoyance.
Cheers.

I am using a San Disk 128Mb card. Any info on how to get into that Backup.stg file? Thanks

Yes, I do believe it is a bug that most bug testers missed to point out with the WM2003 4.01.16. I've encountered the same problem and lost all the files saved on my SD card (San Disk SD Card). The sad part about this bug is that your lost files are unrecoverable!

scottyjchef said:
I am using a San Disk 128Mb card. Any info on how to get into that Backup.stg file? Thanks
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Hey scottychef, for that just go do the following on your PC:
First you need to go to "My Computer" in flile explorer then you select Tools menu and then "Fonder Options" and under the "View" tab check "Show Hidden Files and Folders" and then find the following folder:
C:\Documents and Settings\"YourUserName"\Application Data\Microsoft\ActiveSync\Profiles\"YourOldProfile"
And copy the .bak file into your current profile directory.
Best Regards,
Rayan

Some people came to the conclusion that the sd card erasure was something to do with the Today configuration and that when they chose the default screen etc the problem went away.

After going around the bend with my SD Card being erased/corrupted on nearly daily basis, and being fortunate enough to have friends with both XDA I’s & II’s running both PPC 2002 & 2003 I thought I’d set out and scour the registry to see if anything was missing that could be causing the problem, and I instantly noticed a one thing. On my version of 2003 (4.01.16 T-mobile) there is no key referring to FAT file system for the SD Card, which both the XDA I (PPC 2002-O2) & XDA II (PPC 2003-O2) have.
Also the FATFS.DLL which exists under the \Windows folder (Hidden of course) on both PPC2002(O2) & PPC2003(O2) is not present on the T-Mobile (4.01.16) ROM, However there is a FATFSD.DLL referenced in \HKLM\System\StorageManager\FATFS but not linked to the Storage Card
So I've simply made substitute keys from the ones missing.
Since I’ve entered the following Keys, I’ve nearly gone a week without a single hiccup. Now it may be too early to tell, but if a few of you guys with this problem should try it and it works for you, then problem solved.
Here’s what to do.
Install the PMH Registry Editor (freeware) to your XDA then navigate to
\\HKLM\Drivers\PCMCIA\SDCard
Add the following REG_SZ key:
Value name: FSD
Value data: FATFSD.DLL
Also, I’m not quite sure if the next key adds any performance/stability but was present on the XDA II and not the XDA I, but I added it anyway
Add the following REG_DWORD key:
Value name: BlockTransferSize
Value data: 64
Could be a combination of either key or one or the other, or neither, but I haven’t the time to try each permutation. Or maybe I've just been lucky this week and It'll get wiped over the weekend, I'll keep you posted.
Now reset the device and good luck, plus please post your findings as I could be barking completely up the wrong tree!!

It happened to me also!! I've bought a new MMC card, 256 MB,, and 3 days ago, I woke up & found my card wiped out!
I've used a software called Easy Recovery Pro, and I've recovered all my lost file on the card
I used a digital camera to create a new drive ( I: ) for the card, so that I can recover the files!! Is there any other mean to map the MMC or SD card to a drive??
anyway, I just read some notes on this forum, and I've found that its a bug in windows 2003, but to solve the problem, always format your card using FAT32, and before formating it, just switch the today screen to DEFAULT, then format, and after the format completes just put your favourite theme :? (you could say its crap, but beleive me, it worked, am using my card now without any problems no more)
Micro$oft is weird

I'm bumping this. Is it still working, spadb? Did anyone else try this procedure?
spadb said:
After going around the bend with my SD Card being erased/corrupted on nearly daily basis, and being fortunate enough to have friends with both XDA I’s & II’s running both PPC 2002 & 2003 I thought I’d set out and scour the registry to see if anything was missing that could be causing the problem, and I instantly noticed a one thing. On my version of 2003 (4.01.16 T-mobile) there is no key referring to FAT file system for the SD Card, which both the XDA I (PPC 2002-O2) & XDA II (PPC 2003-O2) have.
Also the FATFS.DLL which exists under the \Windows folder (Hidden of course) on both PPC2002(O2) & PPC2003(O2) is not present on the T-Mobile (4.01.16) ROM, However there is a FATFSD.DLL referenced in \HKLM\System\StorageManager\FATFS but not linked to the Storage Card
So I've simply made substitute keys from the ones missing.
Since I’ve entered the following Keys, I’ve nearly gone a week without a single hiccup. Now it may be too early to tell, but if a few of you guys with this problem should try it and it works for you, then problem solved.
Here’s what to do.
Install the PMH Registry Editor (freeware) to your XDA then navigate to
\\HKLM\Drivers\PCMCIA\SDCard
Add the following REG_SZ key:
Value name: FSD
Value data: FATFSD.DLL
Also, I’m not quite sure if the next key adds any performance/stability but was present on the XDA II and not the XDA I, but I added it anyway
Add the following REG_DWORD key:
Value name: BlockTransferSize
Value data: 64
Could be a combination of either key or one or the other, or neither, but I haven’t the time to try each permutation. Or maybe I've just been lucky this week and It'll get wiped over the weekend, I'll keep you posted.
Now reset the device and good luck, plus please post your findings as I could be barking completely up the wrong tree!!
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Well maybe, but i don't think so, becuase when my MMC was wiped, I noticed that Windows has changed the file system to FAT32, although it was FAT16 before!!
So all what I think is that Windows needs the storage card to be formatted as FAT32 and not anything else!
I did formatted my MMC using FAT32, and now its working so fine, no wippings no data loss, it works like a charm
Am still using my MMC card without fear of getting wipped!

spadb thats a interesting fix, you might also wants to label your card (
as in reformat and then give it a name, that solved it for me and its been
months since my last erase).
HTH

Got the same problem
I tried most of the T mobile Roms they have the same bug which is painfull to restore data to the Storage :S and relocate the shortcuts..anyway if u just wanna try how this could be deleted try to pull off the sd out then put it in do it several times it will be wiped I tried that on purpose with the newest Tmobile rom and today wiped again by itself with an old Tmobile Rom 4.01.00 and the SD is on the FAT32. I just can't tell what should we do in this case nor the Tmobile wm2003 are good neither the ATT with the sound clipping, If there's some1 could get us the best Rom ever tested or a way to fix all this bug we'd appreciate the help.. P.S my SD is 256M.B

GOD DAMN IT!!!!!!! My 256 MMC card got wipped again!!!!! :twisted:
I hate this!!!!! I hate it I hate it I hate it
I wanna know if the SD card registry solution posted by "spadb" works with MMC cards as well!
I will recover my files & format the card again..
I hope this time it won't be wipped again!
by the way, is there any software which can map the SD / MMC card to a logical drive under windows, while the device is on the cradle (without using card readers)?

I'm getting this problem too. I've had my XDA II for less than a week and its wiped my SD card twice. Looking around other pocketpc forums on the web it appears that other people are experiencing this too. I wonder if this is a bug in the latest Windows Mobile 2003 update?
I've tried using the repair option in an evaluation copy of storage tools and it appears to be able to restore the data. It's almost as if the FAT is getting corrupted including the backup FAT.
I'm using FAT32 for the filesystem. I know my SD card is ok because it has worked 100% on my Orange SPV phone previously.
Going to phone O2 tomorrow because this is getting beyond a joke.
Cheers,
Richard.

name ur SD card storage or somthing and make it fat 32 ive never had a sd erase yet (touch wood) that was using a sandisk 256mb card, soon to get a simpletech 256mb (speedy )

What tool can I use to label the SD card? Storage tools doesn't appear to have that option.
Cheers,
Richard.

a pc :roll:

http://www.pocketgear.com/ppcw/software_detail.asp?id=8392
and posible pocket mecahics

For all of you guys who lost their data from their SD cards, you can ALWAYS get your data back using any SD Card Reader or Digital Camera.
Just put your SD card in the card reader or the cam & run any file recovery software on the removable disk which appears whenever you connect the card reader / cam to your PC, and you will restore all of your files.
I've restored all of my files using this simple way of recovery. 8)

Activesync how to load a huge file straight to MMC card

I have just bought a 512MB card & wish to transfer a 133mb film to it how do I send straight to the card using activesync
Thanks Graham

sd card reader is the only way i know of.

If you want to start transferring large files, you 'must' get a card reader. They're dirt cheap now and will transfer your files in a whiz. It will take what seems like a lifetime doing it through AS.

If you must se AS, right click on the green AS symbol in the systray and select explore, from there you can navigate to the memory card and just drag/dropv the file as always in windows.
Heed the previous warnings though, it will take a long time; a card reader is about £6 and will speed the transfer up by orders of multitude.
Also, if you are going to be transferring a lot of big files you could try my new software which is underdevelopment, it sunchronises any files on the PPC to the desktop including memory cards, and will very soon have the capability to do the sync over a card reader to the memory card.
find it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=12574&highlight=

Thanks all
Unsure if it is the done thing here but I'd like to thank all those who have helped - I used the Explore feature as I didn't have a card reader & you were spot on as it took ages.
The 1st time I tried it crashed half way through I then had to reinstall Activesync which then interfered with my cordless mouse so I had to reinstall that.
On the 3rd attempt I finally got it done so I shall be buying a £ 6 card reader ASAP as it took 2 hours to sort LOL..
cheers again Graham

large file ( movie ) FAST file transfer

Hi All
I have a xda IIs ( previously owned XDA 1 & 2 ). I have started encoding movies/tv shows which I watch on my phone and I was wondering if anyone knew of some software that would speed up the process of copying the .avi file to the memory card on the PPC ? Activesync is really *slow* so I've starting using a card reader ... but this is something else to carry around so I'm thinking there must be something that would let me write directly to the SD card at a higher speed.
Thanks in advance
Jeff

Hi wertert!
You should check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=17514
They discuss a couple of programs that bypass ActiveSync and let you use your device as USB mass storage device. (you don't have to install anything on the pc)
I also noticed that the transfer speed depends on the SD itself. Older cards seem to be slower.
Anyway, hope this helps. Good luck!

Is there a way to read the CID of a micro-SD card

I have an application for my Hermes (Cingular 8525) that came on a 1-Gb micro-SD card. I have backed up the application in a RAR file and unRARed it to a larger (2-Gb) micro-SD card. When I try to run it, I get a hardware ID error. It seems that there is a file that likely contains the CID identifier of the micro-SD card, which is unique to the card and is not affected by formatting. What I would like to know is if there is any application which will run on either my Hermes or my PC which will read out and display the CID identifier of an SD or micro-SD card.

The S in SD means Secure, the application you have is locked to the memory card so there is little you can do, would this be iGO 8 per chance on its rather small capacity card?? - Mike

The app is i-Go which I purchased in February. What I am hoping to do is to get a new 8Gb micro-SD and put that plus Tom-Tom (for North America) on it so that I don't find myself having to swap cards when I travel. Currently I have some music along with Tom-Tom on a 2Gb micro-SD. My goal is to only have to swap the SIM cards when I travel, not the micro-SD.

Complain to iGO, their insistance on supplying this package on too smaller memory card is the sort of practice that will generate illegal copies of their software. They should offer the package on far larger cards in this day and age, it is a real shame they elected to lock down the application to an undersize card - Users such as yourself who want to purchase software correctly should not have to put up with this sort of draconian measure - Mike

Actually when I bought iGo, I asked for a 2Gb micro-Sd and they told me that they only supplied it on a 1Gb card. On top of that, they charged an extra amount because it was on a micro-SD card instead of a regular SD card. The price was really quite exorbitant - $300 including shipping just for the map of Israel. TomTom maps are $100 for all of North America (and only $50 if you do an annual upgrade). However, for some insane reason, iGO is the only GPS map software for Israel - Garmin and TomTom don't have it.
In looking over the supplied software from iGO, I noticed that there is one file called license.db which seems to contain the CID number of the card. I thought I would experiment with putting their app on a larger card and hacking that file to change the number to the CID of the larger card - except that I can't find any utility that will read out the CID. Hence my post.

I also would like to know the ID of my SD Card.... any idea how to do that?

I can't experiment with this right now, but you might try popping the card into a USB reader attached to a laptop or PC. Then, on that machine, open a CMD (DOS) window, browse to the root of the card, and type DIR and press enter. The resulting screen should show you a list of all the files in the root directory of the card. The second line in that list should tell you the "Volume Serial Number".
Is THAT what you're looking for? If so, you should also be able to edit it, using a program like WinHex. Simply make the large (2GB) card have the same VSN as the one the software was delivered on.
Hope this helps,
-pvs

pvs said:
I can't experiment with this right now, but you might try popping the card into a USB reader attached to a laptop or PC. Then, on that machine, open a CMD (DOS) window, browse to the root of the card, and type DIR and press enter. The resulting screen should show you a list of all the files in the root directory of the card. The second line in that list should tell you the "Volume Serial Number".
Is THAT what you're looking for? If so, you should also be able to edit it, using a program like WinHex. Simply make the large (2GB) card have the same VSN as the one the software was delivered on.
Hope this helps,
-pvs
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That will give you the Partition-ID in form XXXX-XXXX
what he and me would need is the "PSN" which is written in the CID Register of a microSD-Card; the Product serial number PSN (32bits binary integer).
Does anyone has an idea, how you can read this, i think some programs do read this Number during the registration of the card to the System, i am a noob and haven't an idea how to get to this information
i dont want to change it, i just need to know it.

I've got the CID in C# in Windows XP/Vista. No luck with Windows Mobile 2003 SE (I haven't got anything newer to try it with).
http://jdmcf.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!862DEE3EC267CB5C!279.entry
http://jdmcf.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!862DEE3EC267CB5C!292.entry
You send IOCTL_SFFDISK_DEVICE_COMMAND with deviceIOControl.
Works only with SD cards plugged into a reader attached directly to the pci bus, it doesn't work with usb readers, you need admin rights for the call, it needs to be compiled for x86 instead of AnyCPU, it's flaky...
My pocket pc experiments have ended in misery. I think the driver for the SD Bus Host must be programmed to deal with the calls or something. It's too low level for me, my understanding is minimal...

Hi ,
im searching too for a way to copy igo license card
i think this tool is probably the first step to success
copy the file to your PPC insert the card you want to now the id and run (works only on PPC)
The license.db works together with the card id i found a field by opening
the license.db with normal hexeditor where the id is stored ( field called "secid" ) but no way to change it because the file gets unreadable for igo
we need a way to change the id in the license.db
sorry for my bad english

But is there a way to change or fake a card ID for new cards?

is there a solution yet?

Thank you for this tread,
I'm looking to read SD CID (32 * bits) using Pc SD/MMC card reader, i have a C# code here.
But this code don't work over my PC card reader, DeviceIoControl return false for a physical device of the SD card.
I have too add the driver or dll API to etablish protocol comunication to send command !!
Thank in advance for any idea and contribution

Yesssssssssss
A quick way to find serial number sd card in the SD card drive letter opdrachpromt example: J: \> dir

blkmagikca said:
Is there a way to read the CID of a micro-SD card.
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Yes there is, see this topic;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530335
PageDown to the 2nd post.
Though if it is for any use of you.. I doubt it,
Senax

Sd card reader reading CID
Yes there is ,see thread id 673064 on this forum, last reply from me.

Does anyone have a working app for this, which can operate over the USB? If the adb.exe of Android can read the CID, other apps should also be able to. The GET CID command exists for cards. Why is it difficult coding it?

One more qn.. Is the CID register same as the Container ID ?

any news!?

What is the situation?

Can not see SD card *SOLVED*

Hello i Have a (HTC clone NT901??). I had to do a Hard reset, and after that i can't access the storage card. I have included some pictures.
As you can see SKtools detect the card, but not Windows 6.1.
I have tried other Sd cards with no results.
Note that i did not have any SD-card in my phone when the picture with expansion slot "Not in use" was taken.
Maybe someone has a bright idea what the problem might be.
Forgive my english, i'm Swedish.
I'm sorry if this is not the right forum for this ,but i don't know where else i would put it.
regards/MickeF
Edit: I have included my registryfile if someone could look through it.
*SOLVED* Bad soldering in SD-SLOT. Now the card work like a charm.

Check if the pins in the card reader are making contact with the SD card. I had the exact same problem with an iPAQ 210. I couldn't find any way to fix it, not hard resets or anything. Eventually the problem went away on its own(after a month or so). Hope yours eventually starts to work, sorry I couldn't be more help.

DisMountSdcard.exe???
I have looked in the windows directory an found a file called DisMountSdcard.exe
What is that? I have googled it but it did not find any answers. Someone?
I have looked in the registry to find if the exe loads but it don't.
It can't be deleted and says it is writeprotected.

Does the card work in another mobile or PC?
Might there be a problem with the partition or filesystem?
In windows desktop version hard drives are sometimes visible by programs but not windows. That suggest that the filesystem is currupt. Not shure how this works with flashcards and winmo.

Yes it works flawless in another original HTC phone and desktop computer.

Can somebody explain too me how it's possible for SKTools to see the card (only in SD information though), but not by WM 6.1.
I think it's the drivers ieg sdbus.dll or sdhc.dll, sdmemory.dll but i have tried to exchange them to others without results.

No one who can help me???

check the SD is well in other Mobile Phones,if well,just use some tool to format it?Really OK?I don`t have any idea,just try

New pictures
I have now tested my card in my son's Touch Viva (yes it works there) and i have attached the picture in SKtools. You can compare and maybe advice me what to do.
The first picture is with card in Viva, and second from card in my phone.

Dead forum??
Seems that no one is interested in this.

I just ran out of ideas.
If the card works in other computers or phones the card is ok.
If your phone can´t read ANY cards then the problem is your phone.
The next step is to find out if its a hardware or software problem.
It would be good to back up your phone and do a reinstall with a known good ROM. If that fails, then there is something wrong with your hardware. Have you tried cleaning the card slot?

I have cleaned the slot. One thing i don't understand is that SKtools detects the card in SD information as you can see here. If it was a hardware fault it wouldn't be detected att all.
[SD information]
Bus driver version 5.2
Slot 0
Host index 0,slot index 0
Inserted card Memory Card
Card type SD Memory
Interface mode 4 bit(s),Clock rate 25000000

have attached photo on the bad soldering at the sd-slot.

So are you 100% sure that´s the issue (ie. the soldering). If so, great news.

Well after i resolded the microsmall contacts it's working perfectly again. No problems att all with my 4gb SD-card.
Annoying though,but if you buy a chinese mobile maybe you can expect this.
Otherwise i love the phone. It has all the features i want and more, and is nice looking. Internal GPS,WIFI,3,2MP Camera etc.