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HTC PHONE
i think i seen that phone on Easydevices website, called the Advantage, although i think it runs Mobile 5 rather than Vista,
all i know is, ive got mine preordered
http://www.easydevices.co.uk/pp/PDA/HTC/HTC_Advantage_X7500.html

What I dont get is why they are releasing the Advantage with Windows Mobile 5 instead of 6. Easydevices also have the HTC S710 which has Mobile 6.
They should be using Mobile 6.

HTC P9500 (Shangri-La)

I'm not sure who to blame, you guys who didn't notice the title, or insider666 who seems to be .. weird on this introduction with almost nothing to say about it. Anyway if you look at those photos, the unit runs on Windows Vista. Yes, Vista the full PC-class OS, not the strip down mobile Windows Mobile. Also note the Windows key on the keyboard.
Anyway, I'm not sure where did this news come from, but I'm not having luck on google on this. However, both the pics above may have been photoshopped, you never know, until we get a more reliable source

it does look like the HTC advantage, and it does look like its been photoshopped, cause the windows key looks awful bright.
but hey, if it runs vista i'll be impressed but i think it'l be mobile 5 if not 6

here is the rough spec for P9500:
It is a Vista Plus WM 6
7" Screen
40GB HD
VGA for VT
WIFI
HSDAPA,UMTS
GPS
Fingerprint Recognition
Semi-auto Sliding.

insider666 said:
It is a Vista Plus WM 6
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What would the point in that be?
www.seehtc.com
Thats the official Advantage page.
I just hope that the T-Mobile version (T-Mobile Ameo) will be upgradable to WM6, otherwise it will be made obsolete within 3 months of hitting the market.
Oh and the second pic just looks like an early mock up of the I-mate Ultimate 7150.

This is not an HTC advantage, please bear in mind.
It will be out in Q4 2007.
Here is another one, HTC P6550 Sedna (Not P6500 Sirius)
3.5" Screen
3.0 Mega pixel autofocus camera,
fingerprint recognition
credit/smart card reder
support GPS and A-GPS.

insider666 said:
This is not an HTC advantage, please bear in mind.
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That doesnt explain why it will use both Vista and WM6, please explain what the point in using Dual OS's would be along with how these will be partitioned.

i doubt very much it will use both
vista is not likely to be compiled for more platforms then x86-32 and 64
and wm6 is arm based
if it's running vista is will have a pc cpu
and if it have that kinda power it would be easier to emulate wm6 then to put in a arm cpu in the device too

My guess: virtualization of WM to operate HSPDA and GSM phone and data services; that way they don't have to write a phone program for Vista (or maybe MS wants it that way).
This is a space HTC can't ignore considering the popularity of the Sony UX models and the growing buzz around the OQO 02 and its WWAN EV-DO.

I expect the reason for 2 OSes on the one device will be
WM6 for low power requirements & day long operation of Push mail as in the manner that current devices can manage.
Vista for the times that a standard PC app is required at the expense of only being able to run for 3 - 5 hours.
The base Windows CE is available for x86 machines but I expect a dual processor setup to support the low power requirements of WM6 compared to Vista.

IMHO, this super dude is a smart-ass. He seems to be photoshopping the images leaked/released by HTC in this PDF doc.
Folks, take a look at this

Does this mean that HTC is slowly venturing in laptop market?

AT&T 750 WM6, bluetooth, and Vista

i was able to get my macbook pro running vista business to connect to the treo 750 running wm6 via bluetooth in a hsdpa area without much stress. dont want to explain if no one cares so respond if u do. I ran a speed test at dslreports.com and got 200kb down and up. i suppose thats becasue its limited to the BT bandwidth.

You are running Vista on a Mac?

yea i need to have a windows and a mac os for work for testing so they bought me a new macbook pro with the intel dual core 2 so i could have one laptop that does it all.

Pretty cool! I didn't know that was possible . . .

Yes abs99,
that is very possible. where have you been living? planet pluto?
you can either use apple's boot camp or better still use parallels workstation.

Windows Mobile on a Blackberry?

Is it possible to flash a Blackberry and change its crappy OS for a nice Windows Mobile ROM? I mean, the Blackberry Bold is a great piece of hardware and it could be a great device if it would be possible to run Windows Mobile on it.
Any brilliant ROM cooker from XDA tried this already or thinking about trying it?
Thank you.

No, it's about impossible to do that. If WinMo were open source, maybe, but it's so complicated and device specific that you would have to make the bootloader and many other complex and low level portions of the OS from scratch. I've never ever heard of anyone porting Windows Mobile to an existing device that didn't come with it. Sorry, but it looks like you're stuck with Blackberry's OS.

And what about Android, or Maemo? There was a rumor about Android for BB...

hgrimberg said:
And what about Android, or Maemo? There was a rumor about Android for BB...
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Hypothetically it would be possible, but you'd need a large enough demand for the devs to get involved. First, they'd need to reverse engineer the device as to know what internal hardware it uses and if that can be compatible with Android/Maemo. Then, they'd need to modify the kernel to support the device. All the while, they'd need a Linux bootloader, like HaRET for Windows Mobile, so they could test and make adjustments accordingly.

Thank you Dave. Hard to believe nobody did it already...
And by the way, would you prefer a Nokia N900 with Maemo over a Tilt 2 with WinMo 6.5?
Maybe Maemo is more stable...

hgrimberg said:
Thank you Dave. Hard to believe nobody did it already...
And by the way, would you prefer a Nokia N900 with Maemo over a Tilt 2 with WinMo 6.5?
Maybe Maemo is more stable...
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While Maemo looks very promising, and I'd love to one day get my hands on something comprable (maybe N900, or even xpPhone), I'm a pretty hardcore Windows Mobile fan. Plus, XDA-Developers is great, so I'd probably pick the Tilt2 simply because I like hacking these devices to their very limits, an area where Windows Mobile never fails me. However, I'd say that a person's smartphone preferences are extremely personal, so what may work for me may be disappointing to others. If you can play around with either in a store, I'd highly recommend doing so before purchasing either device.

After having 2 phones with Windows Mobile, I ended up with the conclusion that WM is very unstable, very slow and it crashes too much. Sometimes you don't get a call simply because the system crashed without you noticing. Maybe the processor has to be like 1000 MHZ+ to handle this very heavy OS.
I would suggest you to wait for the Omnia Pro with the sliding keyboard that comes with a 800 mhz processor instead of Tilt 2 with a 528 mhz which is a bit old now.
Maemo seems like a more stable OS and it can also handle VOIP. The only 2 OS that have a native skype client are the WM phones and the Nokia N series like the N900 with Maemo.

hgrimberg said:
The only 2 OS that have a native skype client are the WM phones and the Nokia N series like the N900 with Maemo.
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... and the iPhone....

Menneisyys said:
... and the iPhone....
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No, the iphone has a native skype client that only works over wifi, not over 3G, so its worthless. You can use skype over 3G only if you use Fring.

hgrimberg said:
No, the iphone has a native skype client that only works over wifi, not over 3G, so its worthless. You can use skype over 3G only if you use Fring.
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It's working just great with 3G Unrestrictor. I always conduct a lot of Skype calls over 3G.
All you need is jailbreak your phone and purchase 3G Unrestrictor.

Menneisyys said:
It's working just great with 3G Unrestrictor. I always conduct a lot of Skype calls over 3G.
All you need is jailbreak your phone and purchase 3G Unrestrictor.
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Is there a way to do the same with a Blackberry Bold and make skype possible over 3G as a VOIP call?

Windows Mobile 7....soon...very soon

Probably everybody already knows that Microsoft was working on totally new Windows mobile version what will have multi touch gestures and fully revamped UI something like Vista style.
The latest news is that it will be shown off at Mobile World Congress next month with expected release date late this year. I hope to see some leeks very soon in these forums
You can read full article here.
Cheers, whitealien

it could be very interesting, get it works on polaris

I'm scared that it'll be too heavy for the Polaris isn't it?
And no multi-touch for us, or am I wrong? Don't know if multitouch is possible with resistive technology :/

polaris cant even touch win7. we might get cooked ROMs with similar UI

Thank you for the news.

what he meant is be prepared to buy a new powerful device ...

Kiiv said:
I'm scared that it'll be too heavy for the Polaris isn't it?
And no multi-touch for us, or am I wrong? Don't know if multitouch is possible with resistive technology :/
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Maybe it works perfect on de Polaris.
See with windows Vista en Windows 7
Windows 7 can easy on a light system with 1 GB memory.
I can't wait to test mobile 7 on my polaris

TLdesign said:
Maybe it works perfect on de Polaris.
See with windows Vista en Windows 7
Windows 7 can easy on a light system with 1 GB memory.
I can't wait to test mobile 7 on my polaris
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i wish...but...good luck at that
from what i know not even HTC LEO is confirmed to run it smoothly as it only meets minimum specs (and all devices below it cant run wm7)...
im gonna be looking for tegra devices...
cheers

sounds pointless, i'm sick of buying phone os's that need a quicker CPU than the average laptop.

Wince

ok do not waste any of your time going down a useless path as i have, but i did learn a few things... a big lightbulb finally turned on for me with the wince on the gtab. i finally realized, which i should have from the start, that wince will not support dual core processors, which is why i am getting specific errors with video start call. i modified the original stock tegra os listing for wince and it is running and working but without the dual core being utilized, android is a lot better of a choice. i am not pursing nor continuing toward any wince version for deployment.

which version of wince were you testing? win7 embedded supports dual-core just not sure which ones. Oh since this is my first post would like to thank everyone for doing a tremendous job. Been using XDA for years. Searching has always answered my questions.no need to post

the version i used is found below:
http://tegradeveloper.nvidia.com/tegra/downloads
however, it is not windows mobile 7; i am still researching that version to see what is possible and if it would work on tegra 2 chip and such.
i am moving my focus back to where i am stumped with my version of android for the gtab.

I doubt people who wanted to run WinCE care about dual processor support. The G's hardware is so far beyond most WinCE devices any apps should already be flying. That said, outside of some very specific cases, I can't see people wanting WinCE over Android. If you could somehow get Phone 7 working on this tablet that would be amazing.

ijustbrickeditithink said:
the version i used is found below:
http://tegradeveloper.nvidia.com/tegra/downloads
however, it is not windows mobile 7; i am still researching that version to see what is possible and if it would work on tegra 2 chip and such.
i am moving my focus back to where i am stumped with my version of android for the gtab.
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Maybe a thought, I do believe the Zune HD is runing WinCE on a tegra chipset.

you are corrcet from what i have read about the zune.
i was messing with wince just to see what was possible, nothing against android, but a full working, minus the phone, of win mobile 7 on the gtab would be very cool.
for me it is
how would i integrate this device with a windows network?

ijustbrickeditithink said:
you are corrcet from what i have read about the zune.
i was messing with wince just to see what was possible, nothing against android, but a full working, minus the phone, of win mobile 7 on the gtab would be very cool.
for me it is
how would i integrate this device with a windows network?
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For me it would be Office and Xbox live...

WinCE 6 does only support single core processors. There was some discussion over in the nVidia forums expressing interest for WinCE 7 and its dual core processor support. I have to wonder if that is what Asus is waiting for before releasing the eePad 10, which is supposed to be running some flavor of CE.
As far as Windows network integration? Office and XBox support. I was mainly interested in having something I could sync handwritten note back to MS Office. My old Samsung Omnia just wasn't big enough to be useful, and I really don’t see anything similar for android on the horizon.