When in a music/video application and you press the volume button, you are greeted with a smaller much prettier version of a volume control, that also increases/decreases less per volume button press.
Is it possible to make this control work all the time?
i like that pop-up!
Related to the above; has any1 found out wtf happens between it beeing volume control and it beeing prev/next song? it seems to randomly happen, and i keep having to 'reboot' my hd2 to get normal volume in the music tab again, way annoying.
Before some1 asks me what cabs i installed (since the above happens after some installs, at least thats what i read on these forums) i experienced it maybe 5 minutes after unboxing my new phone, so before i modified anything.
Any help/idea/pointing-to-topic appreciated
I used to have that problem, not had it in 1.61 though
I have 1.43, dunno how to change roms, and kinda 'playing on safe' since i had to pay 'way to much' (€250+) for this phone to break it already
Do feel free to point me to rom topics though cant hurt to look, but id most like to just have some installer exe from htc, so i can blame them if it breaks hehe
loomx said:
I used to have that problem, not had it in 1.61 though
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Sounds like they fixed it! Let's hope that is the case!
lol, I was playing it safe as well. Then just though ah feck it.
Iv just had a look in the registry, I can see which bit makes it pop up in certain applications. So I think i know how I could make it work in other applications of your choice, but I dont know about everwhere.
I search for that too and found a registry entry too that seems to activate that in other application but it doesnt work.
Its possible to add them manually.
HKLM\Software\HTC\VolumeOverlay\InhouseAPClass there add a key with any name and in this key u create a string value "ClassName" with the correct class name as value (I find them with BsB Tweaks).
HKLM\Software\HTC\VolumeOverlay\InhouseEnable2ndUI there add a key with the class name and in there a string value with the name Enable2ndOverlay and the value 1.
e.g. Resco Explorer:
"HKLM\Software\HTC\VolumeOverlay\InhouseAPClass\XYZ\ClassName" with the value "RESCO_EXPLORER_CLASS"
and
"HKLM\Software\HTC\VolumeOverlay\InhouseEnable2ndUI\RESCO_EXPLORER_CLASS\Enable2ndOverlay" with the value "1"
Yes but no landscape support for this function..(only on tab music and some video app that rely on the class-->FullScreenPlayer)..any solution?
Works perfect for me, but maybe if u set the Enable2ndOverlay to 2 instead of 1 it will work, cause the AlbumPlayer also use the 2.
But I really dunno how to set the VolumeOverlay in the ConfettiLockScreen (the ClassName of the LockScreen). An alternative would be to set the volume steps to 1/15 like in the overlay.
Any progress on this front? =) I would love to use the volume as it uses in music tab all over my phone!
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Yes but no landscape support for this function..(only on tab music and some video app that rely on the class-->FullScreenPlayer)..any solution?
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add the desired player to rotation with bsb tweaks 1.6 and when tilted the volume overlay is tilted as whell.
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Hi,
I'm currently using your latest rom, and its great in terms of stability and overall features it contains. I had a small request which i thought i'd post, and decided to make a separate thread so that ppl can drop all their requests too, so here goes!
And now for my request -
It would be great if you could add PQz II into the default rom. Its a small app to enable control/alt key combos with a lot of other features for phone shortcuts, button shortcuts etc. Its freeware too! You can find it at www.nicque.com/pqz
if you could make the following customizations so that pqz starts this way by default, thats an added bonus -
1. Has the path to the "icon" bitmap (by default, its just a white blotch until you specify an icon in the default installation. the icon comes within the package though)
2. Set default keys to the SYM key for control and alt.
3. Make PQz start at windows bootup by default by adding a link in the registry
Cheers and I appreciate the great work!
San
PQZ
Hi,
I will see what it does and try today
Cheers,
Leo
Laurentius26 said:
Hi,
I will see what it does and try today
Cheers,
Leo
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Nice.
I tried it already because sometimes I miss ctrl and alt.
Cheers
Hi,
Which keys do you set for ctrl and alt, cause they aren't on keyboard?
Fn + Tab maybe?
Also how to set a icon for the today I don't know?
Can the icon in upper tray moved to bottum tray?
2 many questions haha...
Cheers,
Leo
ultravox said:
Nice.
I tried it already because sometimes I miss ctrl and alt.
Cheers
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Laurentius26 said:
Hi,
Which keys do you set for ctrl and alt, cause they aren't on keyboard?
Fn + Tab maybe?
Also how to set a icon for the today I don't know?
Can the icon in upper tray moved to bottum tray?
2 many questions haha...
Cheers,
Leo
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He he, nice questions.
I tried the app but quited after some minutes because I couldn't find a way to get it working, lol
Nevertheless if working, it could be a good improvement.
Luis
with all do respect, PQz suck.
it really messes up the keyboard control for other programs, such as games for example...
if you really need it, install it. it only takes a couple of seconds and a couple of lousy KBs, if i remember correctly.
Rom devs can't include apps everytime users have a spacial request. That's what kitchens are for...
Laurentius26 said:
Hi,
Which keys do you set for ctrl and alt, cause they aren't on keyboard?
Fn + Tab maybe?
Also how to set a icon for the today I don't know?
Can the icon in upper tray moved to bottum tray?
2 many questions haha...
Cheers,
Leo
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Normally, we set the "SYM" key for both Control & alt. This way, you press sym once, its control (shows on the icon, once set!), press it again it becomes alt. Its soooooo useful, i cant tell you.....you must try it!
i use it extensively, to do control+c, cntrl+v, blah!
The icon should be on top, so that it shows what you've pressed (control or alt).
The cooler part is the other sub-modules it has such as phone shortcuts, app shortcuts, system shortcuts etc. For example, i can set shortcuts such as alt+Alphabet for speed dials for all my contacts. No matter what application you're currently using, just hit Alt+S to dial a contact for instance, or even fire an application!
I also use, Alt+X to close current app, alt+0 to close all apps....really useful!
Try it out for a while, you cant live without it!
Cheers!
San
Can you add these files to Windows\ directory?
If you could add these to \Windows directory, it would be great! It changes the basic "Open/select file" dialog to browse through folders in a standard windows way rather than scanning through all folders and showing it as one single list!
It overrides this dialog at all places. For instance, when you try and add an attachment to your email, it shows standard folders for you to navigate and pick the right file, rather than making one giant list of all files on all folders!
San
EDIT: There's a small bug in wm6, the softkey labels are not shown though (not a big deal as long as you know what they are!) . The left softkey is "Up" one folder, and right softkey is for "Menu" when the open file dialog is active. Make sure you activate it under Settings->System->FileDialog and check the option in there!
shlomki said:
with all do respect, PQz suck.
it really messes up the keyboard control for other programs, such as games for example...
if you really need it, install it. it only takes a couple of seconds and a couple of lousy KBs, if i remember correctly.
Rom devs can't include apps everytime users have a spacial request. That's what kitchens are for...
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thanks mr.arrogant. i feel much wiser now!
PQZ
Hi San,
I will have another look and tell you what I think of it later.
Greetings,
Leo
how about the ability to call the last dialled number? can that be added? and maybe not including the latest task manager 2.0 as that has problems with the closing of apps.... maybe the earlier version 1.5?
PQZ
Well... I tested a bit.
But it does screw up other functionings.
Also the today icon I don't like, I only see a white square in top bar
Did you try HandyMenu or AEButton, they have same function's but much easier. For copy\paste I use Pnotepad.
Sorry...
Regards,
Leo
rnzk8 said:
how about the ability to call the last dialled number? can that be added? and maybe not including the latest task manager 2.0 as that has problems with the closing of apps.... maybe the earlier version 1.5?
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ooops sorry... asked to early.... hehe!
The WiFi problems are fixed now!
Can you pleeeease solve the Bluetooth Stereo problems ASAP.
I think I already flash my Universal with all existing ROMs, but I believe none as A2DP and WiFi WPA fully working.
can i suggest to try rlToday? It's a very nice Home/today plugin. Working with VGA and completely skinnable.
this tweak will reduce the amount of pressure it takes to use the cube gestures
1 open reg editing software
2 navigate to HKEY_LOCAL MACHINE\software\OEM\TFLOSettings
3. in HKEY_LOCAL MACHINE\software\OEM\TFLOSettings find DWORD fingerpressure...
4. enter in to edit mode then either double or quadruple your oem setting which is 3760
5. !!!!!!!!!*******DO NOT decrease the OEM value only increase IT WILL ACTUALLY TAKE MORE PRESSURE********!!!!!!!!
6. soft reset then enjoy reduced pressure gestures!!
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also figure out this could lessen normal wear and tear(scratching of protectors/PDA screens) since lesser pressure is applied to Tap the screen
here's what i did..
thru the PHM registry editor(or any PPC registry editor)
go to..
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Drivers\TouchPanel
then find DWORD PressureThreshold'
Change the value of PressureThreshold.(INCREASE value ONLY!!!)
i tried doubling the default value. until i have reached my desired setting.
now,its like tapping soflty without having a feeling that i have screen protector. Also less stress on the stylus and screen and faster tapping.
WARNING: Only INCREASE THE VALUE BUT NEVER THE DECREASE THE DEFAULT VALUE.
Lowering the value of Pressure Threshold means you need to apply more pressure in tapping than you normally do.
wow!! tks for the info. i've change the settings by jz double up frm OEM setting. It works & i'm so enjoying wif very soft tapping on the screen now
there are more reg hacks im working on like im speeding up the movement of the cube and other things like speaker phone volume ill be posting all of them here i try them first and make sure they work before telling them to everyone
Hmm there was no folder called TouchPanel in my drivers folder
Seed123 said:
Hmm there was no folder called TouchPanel in my drivers folder
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Same for me...
Instead of HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Drivers\TouchPanel
I searched the DWORD PressureTreshold and found it at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\TouchPanel
maybe there are different Versions and other Destinations of the Key TouchPanel.
Very nice tweak! I always thought I had to apply to much pressure to the screen even before I was using the screenprotector.
Thanks for this!
Edit: it is also much nicer to work with the PCM keyboard now! Typing goes smoother.
Holy ****, this is great! It's much easier now to write on the screen with a touchpad.
Thanxxxx main!!
So what you people use for the value under PressureTreshold for TouchPanel?
I doubled them both
Great Tweaks!!!!!
hey man these are great tweaks. I jus added these tweaks to the Touch Wiki, keep em' coming man
and yeah as some members suggested it is:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\TouchPanel
can u verify this bereda, so as to reduce the posts which doubts the location of the registry key
I just will add this tweak also on my elf with Blue Touch 4.0 ROM and my value is already 9518. So Swiftblade ROM users dont have to add this tweak i guess
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I just will add this tweak also on my elf with Blue Touch 4.0 ROM and my value is already 9518. So Swiftblade ROM users dont have to add this tweak i guess
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Are you talking about HKEY_LOCAL MACHINE\software\OEM\TFLOSettings\fingerpressure or HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Drivers\TouchPanel\pressurethreshold. My first value was 3681 instead of 3761 and my second one was 9350. I just doubled them both.
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Are you talking about HKEY_LOCAL MACHINE\software\OEM\TFLOSettings\fingerpressure or HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Drivers\TouchPanel\pressurethreshold. My first value was 3681 instead of 3761 and my second one was 9350. I just doubled them both.
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Im talking about HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\Drivers\TouchPanel\ pressurethreshold
Like I said, I doubled that one anyway. There is nothing being said about a default value for that one in the first post. I think doubling that variable is why pressing keys on my PCM keyboard and the overall "touchscreen experience" is going better.
Its wierd.. I change the first one but the second tells me access denied.. even restarted the phone and tried connecting again.. I can change the first one.. but I can't change the one inside the TouchPanel directory..
Im using Mobile Registry Editor.. its pretty simple.. can't even search in it so I want to try something else.. Im going to search around for one but if someone wants to let me know what they prefer that would be awesome..
nevermind.. this article from the developer here helped me..
http://www.breaksoft.com/Blog/Posts/2005/8/Mobile_Registry_Editor_FAQ.aspx
mrtical said:
Instead of HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Drivers\TouchPanel
I searched the DWORD PressureTreshold and found it at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\TouchPanel
maybe there are different Versions and other Destinations of the Key TouchPanel.
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hey guys sorry for the delay the you are correct this is where the registery is located as listed above!!!!
my settings are actually quadrupled but its amazing im actually working on speeding up the cubes spins andhow fast it reacts!!!
my touchpanel threshold is at 38372
and my touchflo is at 15040
its great for me
For the TouchFlo, I found that it did have an effect.. however, I tried adjusting the PressureThreshold and didn't notice much difference...
Thanks for the tweak!
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Its wierd.. I change the first one but the second tells me access denied.. even restarted the phone and tried connecting again.. I can change the first one.. but I can't change the one inside the TouchPanel directory..
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Same here. "access denied".
Any way to go around this, to change the pressurethreshold value?
Hi
I was wondering if its possible to change the settings of the volumebuttons so that you can go to the next or previous song when you hold them down? Just like sony ericsson phones do?
Anyone??????
of course it is.
oh, you want more, you can for instance use a key settings customizer that grabs all the keys before the actual windows settings do and allows settings for press and "press & hold" or you can just go in the player settings, like in tcpmp, allow the player to capture all buttons (like games) and assign the volume slider to skipping tracks. and next time post in the right section.
AE Button Plus maybe????
Chef_Tony said:
of course it is.
oh, you want more, you can for instance use a key settings customizer that grabs all the keys before the actual windows settings do and allows settings for press and "press & hold" or you can just go in the player settings, like in tcpmp, allow the player to capture all buttons (like games) and assign the volume slider to skipping tracks. and next time post in the right section.
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Do you know any? I want to try a few to see which one works best.
And TCPMP doesn't work on my phone
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AE Button Plus maybe????
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Thank you, will try that one out
yeah, maybe you should give a little more information, like your device, your rom, your country, how much you are willing to spend on such a program...
and why wouldn't tcpmp work on your device, i thought it ran on about every device out there. i saw it on coffee makers and atm machines
but yeah, in general ae button plus is very nice and gets the job done, or spb pocketplus, but that has a lot of baggage and is only really useful if you want all of the features.
first link would be:
http://tinyurl.com/ndmgvs
then http://hbutton.dyndns.org/
http://www.mobilecastle.biz/mobiles/pocket-pc-applications/28364-vito-button-map-4-0-a.html
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/System-Utilities/Enhancements/Button-mapper-13745.shtml
just a few of the many results, google gives you for this.
I like the VolumeOverlay cause it's prettier, it doesn't interupt your current task and u can set 15 steps instead of only 5. Here's an instruction how to enable it.
Easy way with registry:
In HKLM\Software\HTC\VolumeOverlay\3rdPartyAPClass\ create a key with any name and in there create a string value with the name: ClassName and the value is the name of the window class (I use BSB->rotation settings to find that out).
That works quite fine with the most application and especially for standby if u use the windows lockscreen u only have to set the value of the string value to ConfettiLockScreen and you dont have to reboot. (It only works if u play some kind of sound otherwise u dont see anything ).
In some applications it's more useful to have a tilted VolumeOverlay although the portrait version is quite nice and sufficient.
The harder way:
In HKLM\Software\HTC\VolumeOverlay\InhouseAPClass\ set a key with any name and a string value with the name: ClassName and the value is again the window class name. In addition u need to set in HKLM\Software\HTC\VolumeOverlay\InhouseEnable2ndUI\ a key with the name of the window class and and in there a string value with the name: Enable2ndOverlay with the value: 2.
Example: LockScreen/Standby
1. I look at the window class name with BSB->rotation->add application->shake in lockscreen. Result: ConfettiLockScreen
2. Create a key in HKLM\Software\HTC\VolumeOverlay\3rdPartyAPClass\ with the name Lockscreen (or any name)
3. In HKLM\Software\HTC\VolumeOverlay\3rdPartyAPClass\Lockscreen\ I create a string value: ClassName->ConfettiLockScreen
I hope I could help you and I hope it will be implemented in the BSB tweaks in the future. I would advise to combine all this settings (P2Z, rotation and VolumeOverlay) cause it's easier to add an application once and than tick what u want to have.
Hi there
This seems to be exactly what i need but fail at implementing it.
I am trying to enable this for CorePlayer.
The window clasname seems to be 'wCorePlayer'
I created HKLM\Software\HTC\VolumeOverlay\3rdPartyAPClass\CorePlayer\
In there i create a string value with the name (REG_SZ?) ClassName and the string value wCorePlayer
It's the first time I edit the registry. Am I doing something wrong?
Thanks
A
Okay it works now. With CorePlayer you have to go the 'hard way'.
Thanks!
A
ill add this when i have some free time
Works well here, tested it with the RemoteDesktop (Portrait+Landscape).
But is there an easier way to enable it for all programs?
It's a little bit annoying creating a key for every programm.
thx
Thanks a lot, it's really a great thing !!
i've already add this like you to the lockscreen and it works well
If there are a solution to add this to all applications, i'm in !!
Would be nice if this could be implemented into BSB?!
can someone show us a screenshot what is the pretty VolumeOverlay
vua777 said:
can someone show us a screenshot what is the pretty VolumeOverlay
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Yes please.
omershahab said:
Yes please.
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go to music tab, play a song, while the song is played, press your volume hardware button.
vua777 said:
can someone show us a screenshot what is the pretty VolumeOverlay
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It seems that it's not so easy to make a screenshot of it, but as already mentioned u can see in the music tab while tapping the volume rocker.
makeveral said:
ill add this when i have some free time
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Good man!
Is there a way to get this all the time in all applications, without adding them one by one in the registry?
VolumeOverlay is not showed properly
I don't know why but VolumeOverlay is not showed properly.... it's showed only a black line... don't appear nothing more when I click in Volume buttoms..
May be is because I have installed MaxManila??? or because I have installed a taskbar icons (Brians Taskbar_6.5)???
Any one more with same problem??? or some one know how to fix it???
thanks in advance.
Azazel8 said:
I don't know why but VolumeOverlay is not showed properly.... it's showed only a black line... don't appear nothing more when I click in Volume buttoms..
May be is because I have installed MaxManila??? or because I have installed a taskbar icons (Brians Taskbar_6.5)???
Any one more with same problem??? or some one know how to fix it???
thanks in advance.
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I resolved uninstalling brians taskbar icons, they was not compatible with the manila version of 1.61 rom.
Removed the icons and the volume overlay come back to work.
Is there an easy way to change the steps for the volume? Maybe somewhere a value in the reg?
tomylee
Nice, thanks NetDwarf for the tip, I've used it for CorePlayer (in the hard way) and the lockscreen, and it's much better now!
Roupette said:
Nice, thanks NetDwarf for the tip, I've used it for CorePlayer (in the hard way) and the lockscreen, and it's much better now!
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Dude can you post how what exactly you did with the registry re: CorePlayer? I'm not so sure how to do it even after reading first post. Thanks!
are there any custom color taskbars present that doesn't cripple the volume overlay?
Could some one make this option in a cab? For people not so geekish?
I know there have been a couple of posts dotted around asking about the keyboard dock but I've seen nothing definitive.
I have the dock and it worked great with Honeycomb. I neglected to think about how it would work with a custom ROM before flashing one.
I've gone for the CM9 ROM and although generally typing on the keyboard works it is far less functional. The majority of the (very useful) hotkeys don't work.
Including:
Home
On screen KB up/down
Menu
Play/Pause Media
Makes the whole thing far less useful :-(
I'm interested in if anyone knows anything I can do to make this better on CM9 or even if it's likely to work better with any different ICS ROM?
Yes, the keyboard dock hotkeys don't work, all except the back key. But even more annoying it is that the software keyboard shows up and it shouldn't.
karnka said:
I know there have been a couple of posts dotted around asking about the keyboard dock but I've seen nothing definitive.
I have the dock and it worked great with Honeycomb. I neglected to think about how it would work with a custom ROM before flashing one.
I've gone for the CM9 ROM and although generally typing on the keyboard works it is far less functional. The majority of the (very useful) hotkeys don't work.
Including:
Home
On screen KB up/down
Menu
Play/Pause Media
Makes the whole thing far less useful :-(
I'm interested in if anyone knows anything I can do to make this better on CM9 or even if it's likely to work better with any different ICS ROM?
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I do not have a genuine Samsung keyboard (yet) but you should be able to map home, menu and the media buttons with my app: http://www.apedroid.com/android-applications/external-keyboard-helper
You can also specify up to 16 apps and create shortcuts for them. For example you could start the browser with Alt+B and Gmail with Alt+G if you want to.
Yep
I remember that happening occasionally before but it's constant now and even more inconvenient without the convenient hotkey to hide it.
Can I assume this is pretty constant regardless of the ROM used?
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Yep
I remember that happening occasionally before but it's constant now and even more inconvenient without the convenient hotkey to hide it.
Can I assume this is pretty constant regardless of the ROM used?
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Yes I think so unless it is a HC rom based on a stock ROM.
I'll fix some of it in the CM9 port once I recieve my BT keyboad case and have something to test with. If you just want to get rid of the on-screen keyboard you can use my free app that does that and nothing more: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apedroid.hwkeyboardhelperfree
If you want full control you need my paid app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apedroid.hwkeyboardhelper
Free demo: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apedroid.hwkeyboardhelperdemo
Thanks for the advice. Your app looks really helpful.
I've no problem buying the pro version but want to have a play with the demo one a little more first.
I'm having slight issues trying to map a few things:
App switching: can map keys to this but doesn't seem to do anything
"Internet" / "Mail" - these two keys aren't picked up by the mapping config as they immediately jump away launching the browser (I'd love to remap to chrome) or asking me whether i want Gmail or Mail (and not remembering my selection)
I've mapped home (hooray!) but although it takes you back to the launcher it doesn't necessarily take you back to the default screen as the onscreen home button does (that's a really small issue!)
Any thoughts about those?
On the subject of the demo version of the app... Is the only thing that's different between that and the pro version that the spacebar is mapped to: _This_is_a_demo_version!_?
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Thanks for the advice. Your app looks really helpful.
I've no problem buying the pro version but want to have a play with the demo one a little more first.
I'm having slight issues trying to map a few things:
App switching: can map keys to this but doesn't seem to do anything
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The problem with keycodes is that some are handled erlier in the input queue before I can process it in my app. App switcher and Home is two examples. I managed to do a workaround for Home but I have not yet found a way to bring up the app appswitcher programatically.
"Internet" / "Mail" - these two keys aren't picked up by the mapping config as they immediately jump away launching the browser (I'd love to remap to chrome) or asking me whether i want Gmail or Mail (and not remembering my selection)
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Same reason here. Android propably picks up and processes these before the app get a chance and therefor the scancode is never passed on. However, when I get my BT keyboard dock I can investigate this more.
I've mapped home (hooray!) but although it takes you back to the launcher it doesn't necessarily take you back to the default screen as the onscreen home button does (that's a really small issue!)
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This is due to the nature of the workaround. I just launch the launcher which gives almost the same effect as when the system processes the Home keycode (apart for the difference you noticed)
Any thoughts about those?
On the subject of the demo version of the app... Is the only thing that's different between that and the pro version that the spacebar is mapped to: _This_is_a_demo_version!_?
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The versions are identical apart from the space button and some strings (demo vs pro, buy vs rate) so you can test out everything before buying.
You really should try the application shortcuts. Choose apps for A0 to AF and enter A0 to AF instead of characters when doing a custom layout. You could put the Email app on Alt+E and Gmail on Alt+G etc... Setting it up could be bit more userfriendly but once you figure it out it is not that hard to do.
Have got the pro version now and the overall effect is not much worse than the keyboard was under honeycomb so thanks very much.
Have setup a few short cuts (chrome and Gmail) and mapped them to some of the otherwise non-working function keys so that's great too.