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[Discussion] Is a nintendo 64 emulator possible for this phone?

Hey,
Before I get started, I just want to stop all flamers - I have searched and I couldn't find anything for this specific phone.
The specs for the nintendo 64 is a 93.75mhz processor and a 62.5mhz GPU -and people who like to call themselves "educated" in this area say that you need 10x the power to emulate something - and I reckon the HD2 has the power to do it. What do you think?
I think it would be great if this was possible, and just like the fpsece - people would donate to have this ability as we all love the goldeneye on the n64, and to be able to play that on the go would be amazing.
Thanks,

kasher9 said:
Hey,
Before I get started, I just want to stop all flamers - I have searched and I couldn't find anything for this specific phone.
The specs for the nintendo 64 is a 93.75mhz processor and a 62.5mhz GPU -and people who like to call themselves "educated" in this area say that you need 10x the power to emulate something - and I reckon the HD2 has the power to do it. What do you think?
I think it would be great if this was possible, and just like the fpsece - people would donate to have this ability as we all love the goldeneye on the n64, and to be able to play that on the go would be amazing.
Thanks,
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OMG good idea zelda - Ocarina of time all over again..
Love the idea and hope there is a supreme programmer around who loves the idea too..

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it is a really nice idea, but after all a dream i guess...
remember there where some N64 emulators out, but most of them took years until the could
emulate the standard games like mario kart,mario 64 and some others, there are still many games wich dont run on the emus.The next Problem is the controller...

Perfect 64 is a great N64 emu for PCs, so it has been done well already on other platforms...

I'm going to bump this thread up a bit so it gets some attention. I would also love a n64 emulator for the htc hd2! Would be so awesome to play zelda on my phone! And I agree , I and many others would donate for such a thing.
I know some people have been working on an emulator for the iphone and this phone is much more powerful than the iphone.

You read my mind... N64 on this phone would look awesome!!! we got some genius developers out there. crossing my fingers and praying they listen...

I'd happily part cash for it!
And a FinalBurn emulator, damn my lack of programming knowledge! Where does one begin to learn such technical wizardry?!

Even if we have an emulator for N64, it will be very difficult to play games due to too many buttons for control in N64. And HD2 is not really multitouch, am I right?

fantasytozi said:
Even if we have an emulator for N64, it will be very difficult to play games due to too many buttons for control in N64. And HD2 is not really multitouch, am I right?
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Um no you are wrong . Hd2 got multitouch. And a nice button layout combined with the big screen would make it possible to play games pretty good. Atleast slow-paced games would be possible to play without much problem.

Goldeneye oder Perfect Dark on the HD2 would be magnificent!!!

the source code for project 64 is available,
http://www.pj64-emu.com/downloads/
so in theory it is possible.

Ye there are also other open-source n64 emulators out there.
Like:
1964: 1964emu.emulation64.com
Another emulator for the PC
Daedalus: sourceforge.net/projects/daedalus-n64/
Which was the first emulator to emulate n64 on the psp.
DaedalusX64: sourceforge.net/projects/daedalusx64/
Which is a continuation of the original daedalus on the psp. This is the one that currently is the best for n64 emulation on psp.
And all these are open-source. So it should be very possible, I think, to use one of these codes to write an emulator for the HTC HD2. Don't shoot me down now if I'm wrong, I'm just a noob when it comes to programing.
I wish I myself could help getting a project like this started but I know nothing about programing.
What we need are some good and dedicated programmers willing to give this a go.

mcfred_n said:
Um no you are wrong . Hd2 got multitouch. And a nice button layout combined with the big screen would make it possible to play games pretty good. Atleast slow-paced games would be possible to play without much problem.
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I think Im not.
Multitouch on HD2 is not like iphone. HD2 only support multitouch for a couple of programs. It will be really difficult to build a n64 emulator, for action games like Zelda play smoothly with multitouch. I completed Zelda by Project64 on PC before.
Did u try emulator like Morphgear, or FpseCE? I had the supporter version of these two, multitouch really does not working so well, still some bugs and problems

No I haven't tried those emulators yet. But even though the multitouch isn't perfect it's playable, from what I understand, and they are both works in progress aren't they? You can at least play it fine if you use a bluethooth controller.
And I can't say anything about how difficult it is to build a program that supports multitouch , since I know nothing about it, but didn't the multitouch version of these emulators come out rather quickly after the hd2 was released? At least it isn't impossible to build a emulator with decent multitouch support.
We just need to get the ball rolling!

fantasytozi said:
I think Im not.
Multitouch on HD2 is not like iphone. HD2 only support multitouch for a couple of programs. It will be really difficult to build a n64 emulator, for action games like Zelda play smoothly with multitouch. I completed Zelda by Project64 on PC before.
Did u try emulator like Morphgear, or FpseCE? I had the supporter version of these two, multitouch really does not working so well, still some bugs and problems
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Multitouch works very well on both FPSECE and MorphGear. The only reason it isn't very good on MorphGear from the beginning, is because the standard pad sucks HD2 has a capacitive screen, and therefore it is able to use multitouch just like any other multitouch phone (iphone etc), it just requires the programmer to write the program with multitouch support, by using the code from HTC
And a N64 emulator would be awesome

What about games like Ogre Battle though? Underlying point being there are still some worthwhile games that will work well despite the lack of hardware controls and/or multitouch support...

I was searching for this!
I love the idea and would pay (just i have for FpseCE) to get this, i would love zelda on my phone

Seriosly, this is the idea of the century!
Maybe not, but it is a very good idea i would sertainly donate to whomever creates this very much appreciated emulation program!
And as someone else sad before me the multitouch works well if you just put some effort into it and program it right, i have Supporter Version of FpseCE and multitouch works well there!

fantasytozi: *Flame, flame you* Multitouch works perfectly inf FPSEce. ONly thing holding back is y-alignement problem. But multitouch works great.
All: This wont really happen. Who would start work that would take years to program on dying OS? IF there will be some emulators in future, it will be for WP7 (as emulators are best with strong HW and strong HW devices will come only for WP7. So add two years (if there is genius team of programmers) to WP7 release and you have date where first emulator could exist =)

KowboyBebop said:
fantasytozi: *Flame, flame you* Multitouch works perfectly inf FPSEce. ONly thing holding back is y-alignement problem. But multitouch works great.
All: This wont really happen. Who would start work that would take years to program on dying OS? IF there will be some emulators in future, it will be for WP7 (as emulators are best with strong HW and strong HW devices will come only for WP7. So add two years (if there is genius team of programmers) to WP7 release and you have date where first emulator could exist =)
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Easy man, that post was when I hadnt tried ur optimized package yet
But honestly, it's been a long time I havent played fpsece. It's great for like rpg games, some action games. But, for action games when u have to hold and charge like Megaman, it's really difficult

Can we have the Tmobile HD2 supplied games please :)

Can a TMobile US user please kindly extract the cabs for the new games you have preinstalled on your phone to make up for us non US owners who have less memory than you.

What games do they get?

http://pocketnow.com/software-1/t-mobile-htc-hd2-comes-with-premium-games

tboy2000 said:
http://pocketnow.com/software-1/t-mobile-htc-hd2-comes-with-premium-games
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These are avaliable on the marketplace.

yehh, i'm looking for these too.

can someone... supply the contents of the sd card from tmobile... it's all in there!!!

kurniawan77 said:
can someone... supply the contents of the sd card from tmobile... it's all in there!!!
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ill try tonight. it comes out to 2.5gb. Prince of persia and the racing games are both demos with a timelimit. Guitar hero is the only one that seems like a full version. as

qben88 said:
ill try tonight. it comes out to 2.5gb. Prince of persia and the racing games are both demos with a timelimit. Guitar hero is the only one that seems like a full version. as
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Grrreat... pm me if u like... i'm going to get some sleep now...

Those games aren't free and they're not fantastic either.
Ferrari Evolution is too fast on the HD2, can hardly control it...graphics aren't WVGA either so it's not fantastic.
GH5 is OK but it's slow and jerky...At first i thought it was my phone but after watching videos of it on youtube, alomost every OS it was made for is jerky and hard to play...only the Android one was smooth....DATA is also a requirement to play it...i never played it again...it came with my HD2 also...but it's too horrible to play...

Thanks for the info peaceboy. Good to know.

tmobile hd2 is as smooth as silk
peaceboy said:
Those games aren't free and they're not fantastic either.
Ferrari Evolution is too fast on the HD2, can hardly control it...graphics aren't WVGA either so it's not fantastic.
GH5 is OK but it's slow and jerky...At first i thought it was my phone but after watching videos of it on youtube, alomost every OS it was made for is jerky and hard to play...only the Android one was smooth....DATA is also a requirement to play it...i never played it again...it came with my HD2 also...but it's too horrible to play...
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tmo hd2 with its supersized rom and expanded ram is the best phone out there. it kills all the iphones they cant even multitask.android runs programs without your permission so your phones ram is full after just an hour or so without you even using it and the android email sucks compared to windows mobile--android cant run but a few video formats--winmo can play anything.
guitar hero 5played smooth all the way on the hd2. my cliq(android) hangs up if you try to do anything. i hope motorola ends up upgrading it to android 2.1 so i can at least get turn by turn. motorola has really let people down.
hd2 is windows mobile at its best. you can make it just right for you.

I wouldnt post guitar hero here if it is the full game, that might cound as Warez

Games and Apps
You can get most of these and other games and apps here

Please send Ferrari GT evolution v2.4.0

More nice games please... Thank you.

still searching for the tetris game on the US HD2... or a link to the manufacturers site would be nice too

Request: Best Game(s) that take the most advantage of HD2 hardware...?

I will be getting an HD2 tomorrow (hopefully) and have been doing research about alot of different things for it... one thing is games - I have seen alot of games and none of them seem to be using the specs of the HD2 very well.... I would expect a phone like this to be able to have some very nice games, I understand it is quite new and maybe there aren't any out yet...but could you please let me know what is out there so far? I have only seen things like xtkart (I believe that is how it is spelled) and the ps1 emulator... so I was wondering what you guys have or what else is out there that is in accordance with my recommendation ?
Thanks in advance!

XTRAKT, Experiment 13 and Electopia demo are by far the best games for hd2! avatar, asphalt 4 and nfs undercover are great too!

man.. its just that i'm not interested in racing games...
i wouldn't mind some good ol tetris.. but with nice visuals that take advantage of the hd2 specs...

ProjektFuze said:
..with nice visuals that take advantage of the hd2 specs...
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this is the part I agree on 110%

You might want to check FPSEce out, a PSX emulator for the HD2 which works very well...

dagrim1 said:
You might want to check FPSEce out, a PSX emulator for the HD2 which works very well...
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that is what I was referring to in the OP... any others ?...

Shooting Game
Dear all smart guys,
I am also wondering whether we can have those shooting game.. displaying in gameloft.com..............and which can be played in our super machine HD2...

games for HD2
Search for freewarepoketpc, and look for experiment 13

Ferrari GT2 Revolution looks BOMB on HD2. MiniGolf Wacky World looks also nice

the ferrari game runs 'terribly' on the US HD2.....they should be embarrassed....constant lag and slowdown. :O(

so basically to answer your question... there are none....... yet... don't lose hope... things will turn as soon as 7 comes out

yeah im not sure there are any games that fully take advantage of the hd2 hardware.
thats not to say that there arent any good games because there are PLENTY!

gerelee said:
the ferrari game runs 'terribly' on the US HD2.....they should be embarrassed....constant lag and slowdown. :O(
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On my German HD2 with stock ROM it works brilliantly without any freezes etc.
@ Topic: You have to keep in mind that it is a Windows Phone. If you wanna have a phone for playing only then you have to buy an iPhone or sth. like that. Nevertheless I got more than 20 brilliant HD2 games that brought me hours of fun during long train trips.

wow, i wonder why the one on the us hd2 runs so poorly.........it stutters sooooo badly that it's barely playable......i didn't buy this phone to play games but since they were included i certainly checked them out, that's why i'm so shocked that they included a game that runs like crap, lol, not a good advertisement!

the graphics suck on that game too, not up to the HD2 par in my opinion...the game market for this phone is disappointing! =\..
By the time Windows 7 comes out you said ? Yeah, but the HD2 would still be stuck on windows 6, remember ?....I wonder if the games will be comaptible though? or If someone will come up with a perfected windows 7 rom for the HD2 ? Or at least a perfected android rom... then maybe we will have some decent games ? Otherwise I hope the developers are working on some great games otherwise the hardware will be going to waste for the most part...

I would take a look over at pda4you.org, if i was you guys..

Heavy graphics games for HD2

Recently I bought HD2. I have searched most of the top gaming sites and forums, but still not able to find games of a quality offered for iPhone. The hardware and graphic card quality of the phone is the best in its class but still games available in the market are way out dated .
If you people really have some thoughts, please share them.
Thanks,
Yash

Play station emulated games > iPhone short minigames

experiment13
xtrakt
electopedia
iwi the kiwi
flight commander / space commander
tiki towers
also, psx emulator.
nuff said.

I tried this option also Kowboy, but still the games are pretty old. Checkout the games available for iPhone and the quality. We are now into the world of God Of War 3, still you want to play Mortal Combat? Strange!!!!!

FPsece0.10 working with CHT Editor ??
Hello!
I have read all the informations about FPsece. But it doesn't work on my HTC HD2. I install it like the support say it to me. When I start the Emu,I only see the "LOAD CD-Rom File" Screen(grey). And I see the games in .iso . If I select a game the only thing it happen is, a short time black sceen and then the screen turns back to Home screen. But the top of the Home screen(the bar which shows "Start", "Network", "Sound", "Accu") stays BLACK.
What's wrong??
This Emu works with .iso, .bin, correct?
Is CHT Editor a problem for working FPsece?
Data of my HTC HD2:
BS: Windows Mo 5.2.21869
Manlia: 2.5.20121429
ROM : 1.72.207.0
ROM- Date : 02/23/10
MBP
Regards Hällboi

yashgarg17 said:
I tried this option also Kowboy, but still the games are pretty old. Checkout the games available for iPhone and the quality. We are now into the world of God Of War 3, still you want to play Mortal Combat? Strange!!!!!
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Are you saying that God of War 3 is available on the iPhone, or are you now comparing the HD2 to a PS3?
Yes, PSX games are pretty old, but that has nothing to do with their quality and blatant superiority to anything the iPhone has to offer. The PSX was a dedicated games console, and is obviously therefore better than any phone on the market today, for games. Show me any fighting game on the iPhone that comes close to Tekken 3.
Hällboi said:
Hello!
I have read all the informations about FPsece. But it doesn't work on my HTC HD2. I install it like the support say it to me. When I start the Emu,I only see the "LOAD CD-Rom File" Screen(grey). And I see the games in .iso . If I select a game the only thing it happen is, a short time black sceen and then the screen turns back to Home screen. But the top of the Home screen(the bar which shows "Start", "Network", "Sound", "Accu") stays BLACK.
What's wrong??
This Emu works with .iso, .bin, correct?
Is CHT Editor a problem for working FPsece?
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I have no idea why you would think that, since the CHTEditor has absolutely nothing to do with the emulator, but I will tell you now, 100% guaranteed, that your problem has nothing whatsoever to do with the CHTEditor.
I suspect your problem is that you've downloaded the game images, rather than ripped them yourself. If you have ripped them yourself, rip them again, but at the slowest speed available.

yashgarg17 said:
Checkout the games available for iPhone and the quality.
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Im sorry but most of the games on the iPhone as far as i can see are a complete joke. Some are absolutely brilliant but very very few.
Take a look at Street Fighter 4 on iPhone as a perfect example... 1 button for punch, 1 button for kick and the other buttons do the special moves for you... talk about dumbing down your game for your target audience.
There is no mobile device in the world that has as many quality games available as the original Playstation One library. Yes they are old but that doesnt mean they arent better then anything that is new. Most of them in fact are MUCH better then the newest mobile games on any platform.

Sorry to be a little off-topic, but does anyone know how to run XTRACT off the momory card?

peejay uk said:
Sorry to be a little off-topic, but does anyone know how to run XTRACT off the momory card?
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A little off topic???
You install it to the storage card. Select "Storage card" when you install it.

operative1 said:
experiment13
xtrakt
electopedia
iwi the kiwi
flight commander / space commander
tiki towers
also, psx emulator.
nuff said.
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add starcraft to that and there you have it best thing ever!

I am not saying that God of War 3 is available on iPhone or trying to compare HD2 with PS3. My emphasis is on the latest technology. Have you ever tried to run Tekken 3 on PS3 (event though it is not compatible)? I hope, the answer is NO.
I have been using iPhone from last couple of months. As far as the gaming experience is concerned, undoubtedly it is much much better than HD2. Just have a look at Hero of Sparta or Blades Of Fury then you will realize how much outdated the games are for HD2 in the market.

johncmolyneux said:
A little off topic???
You install it to the storage card. Select "Storage card" when you install it.
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Thanks. But I think it defaulted to internal memory installation (like most Gameloft titles)... however I will give it another go.
Cheers.

yashgarg17 said:
I am not saying that God of War 3 is available on iPhone or trying to compare HD2 with PS3. My emphasis is on the latest technology. Have you ever tried to run Tekken 3 on PS3 (event though it is not compatible)? I hope, the answer is NO.
I have been using iPhone from last couple of months. As far as the gaming experience is concerned, undoubtedly it is much much better than HD2. Just have a look at Hero of Sparta or Blades Of Fury then you will realize how much outdated the games are for HD2 in the market.
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I have actually played Tekken 3 on a PS3. It is compatible, if you don't have one of the newer PS3s.
My point was that there are a slew of PS1 games that completely wipe the floor with any game currently available on the iPhone. All those games are playable on the HD2.
I have been using FPSEce for many months. As far as the gaming experience is concerned, undoubtedly it is much much better than the iPhone. Just have a look at Tekken 3, Driver, Wipeout or Final Fantasy then you will realize how basic the games for the iPhone are, in the market. After all, they're being blown away by games, some of which are over 12 years old.

peejay uk said:
Thanks. But I think it defaulted to internal memory installation (like most Gameloft titles)... however I will give it another go.
Cheers.
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I've got xtract 2 on mine, installed to the storage card, so it definitely asked me. You could always just copy the folder out of \Program Files\ and then edit the shortcut.

yashgarg17 said:
I have been using iPhone from last couple of months. As far as the gaming experience is concerned, undoubtedly it is much much better than HD2.
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lol... did you even read my previous post?

Hmmm.
OK, so there are no HD2 specific games, but surely had research been done regarding WinMo, that would have been realised before purchase? And disappointment adverted.
There are a few games using Open GLES, but what mobile game can even come close to playing Tekken or Metal Gear Solid (which are full console layer games) on your phone.
Anyway, I have downloaded BIN/CUE files from a particular online resouce , and apart from issues with playing background music and sound effects at the same time, all is great! I really cannot be bothered to purchase a PSX disc and rip them myself, so I will just continue to download them.
Is anyone able to explain why ripping a disc at a slower speed is better from the ROMs and FPSECE?
Thanks.

FPsece0.10 working with CHT Editor ??
Do you have an exacty description to install FPsece 0.10?
What could be the problem?
Do you have an idea?
Regards Hällboi

morpheus1982 said:
Is anyone able to explain why ripping a disc at a slower speed is better from the ROMs and FPSECE?
Thanks.
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From my knowledge of ripping disks way back in the day when i first discovered fpsece (about ten years ago!)... its because you get less bit errors when ripping at a slower speed therefore the emulator wont throw a spaz when it finds something out of place.

FPsece0.10 working with CHT Editor ??
My Storage Card is only 2 GB. I this a problem?

Audio Oblivion said:
From my knowledge of ripping disks way back in the day when i first discovered fpsece (about ten years ago!)... its because you get less bit errors when ripping at a slower speed therefore the emulator wont throw a spaz when it finds something out of place.
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Yes mate. And also bear in mind that the discs are lower quality than we're used to today, and many of them will be 10 years old now!
Hällboi said:
My Storage Card is only 2 GB. I this a problem?
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The games on my SD vary from 345MB to 714MB. If you want a lot of games, you'll want to get a bigger card.

What Android Marketplace really needs most: Quality Games

That is the only thing I miss about my iPhone (Android ftw though). The games are so damn good on it.
Look at this upcoming one:
Splinter Cell: Conviction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata&v=dcrHbXe_JRA
I absolutely love my Nexus but the games aren't up to par. I wanna try some of the new Gameloft games but I was told that because of the multitouch limitations that the N1 has they are terrible to play.

The only games I need is pocket empires and what a doodle, I am addicted to both

check this http://www.dvidearts.com/
and this http://www.androidiani.com/applicazioni/crusade-of-destiny-action-rpg-in-3d-per-android-10113#more-10113
and all the com2us games are so good!
http://global.com2us.com/blog/?p=1082
http://global.com2us.com/blog/?p=1074v
and don't forget the upcoming Need For Speed Shift!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfJVqFlVAtE
the problem with gameloft games is the very bad optimization not the multitouch
PS: forgot PolarBit too =) http://www.polarbit.com/
Vandam500 said:
That is the only thing I miss about my iPhone (Android ftw though). The games are so damn good on it.
Look at this upcoming one:
Splinter Cell: Conviction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata&v=dcrHbXe_JRA
I absolutely love my Nexus but the games aren't up to par. I wanna try some of the new Gameloft games but I was told that because of the multitouch limitations that the N1 has they are terrible to play.
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What multitouch limitation??
UPDATE:
i've found some other games incoming:
Xplane
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZOoaHrRTm0&feature=player_embedded
backbraker:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5rx5R5MAW8&feature=player_embedded
??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqTCU-MiIcM&feature=player_embedded

ezangrando said:
What multitouch limitation??
check this http://www.dvidearts.com/
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Does that Crusade of Destiny game support other input methods? Would love to play it with a Wii classic controller pro using the wiimote app

r2001uk said:
Does that Crusade of Destiny game support other input methods? Would love to play it with a Wii classic controller pro using the wiimote app
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may be it has a lot of settings but i don't have a WII to try

its been proven that nexus one has multitouch problems so it doesnt matter what games. Games that have a joystick and action button on the bottom will not work with multitouch on the nexus one. Maybe if one is on the bottom and on at the top they would work

I'm playing at Heavy Gunner 3d actually, it have both controls at bottom of the screen and they work very well togheter on froyo, probably it was a broblem on Eclair. i've never found problems on gameloft games too (excluding optimization)

Asphalt is a money racing game.

with move2SD now activated in Froyo, why aren't the big game company making more quality Android games... so far gameloft, com2us, polarbit, deckeleven have done pretty well with their games, but we need more games...

Scholesville said:
with move2SD now activated in Froyo, why aren't the big game company making more quality Android games... so far gameloft, com2us, polarbit, deckeleven have done pretty well with their games, but we need more games...
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perhaps because it's been only what a week? they need time to develop games for the android.

I'd like to see an MMO on android.