Quick question: Is the Eten Glofiish M 800 a HTC rebrand or totally thier own.
MercuryTyTN said:
Quick question: Is the Eten Glofiish M 800 a HTC rebrand or totally thier own.
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Their own; see http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=878
However, I'd wait for the V900 instead if you definitely want to go for E-TEN See http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1080
Menneisyys said:
Their own; see http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=878
However, I'd wait for the V900 instead if you definitely want to go for E-TEN See http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1080
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Thanks for the quick reply. I'll pass on the V 900, I need my slide out keyboard. May wait if they announce a sliding keyboard version of the 900.
They are completely different. O2 sometimes uses HTC for manufacturing devices but Eten is not like that. And the hardest part is, there are no much Eten users here in xda and so don't expect any custom ROMs.
PS: But as far as Ive experienced with Eten, unlike HTC, they themselves provide a heavily customized ROM which will definitely be faster than HTC! And call recording works clearly on both ends!
Regards,
Carty..
Forgot to mention that providing VGA resolution in qVGA size is Eten and no HTC has it!
Regards,
Carty..
Does Eten provide drivers optimized for hardware video acceleration? Seeing the limitations of recent HTC phones, and having in mind a VGA resolution requires 4x the processing power of QVGA, I would say that's a must.
And, do they offer ROM updates too? HTC gave free updates from WM 5 to WM 6 for many of their phones.
Carty said:
They are completely different. O2 sometimes uses HTC for manufacturing devices but Eten is not like that. And the hardest part is, there are no much Eten users here in xda and so don't expect any custom ROMs.
PS: But as far as Ive experienced with Eten, unlike HTC, they themselves provide a heavily customized ROM which will definitely be faster than HTC! And call recording works clearly on both ends!
Regards,
Carty..
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Yeah well if HTC keeps treating its customers like crap maybe there will be support for Eten in here(crappy phones, crappy customer support, bad or wroong drivers)
M810
MercuryTyTN said:
Thanks for the quick reply. I'll pass on the V 900, I need my slide out keyboard. May wait if they announce a sliding keyboard version of the 900.
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if you really need a keyboard you might wanna wait for the Eten M810, the sucessor to the M800, it looks really good with good specs, from personnal experience, the devices are good quality and the roms have plenty of OEM customazation from Eten.
Carty said:
PS: But as far as Ive experienced with Eten, unlike HTC, they themselves provide a heavily customized ROM which will definitely be faster than HTC! And call recording works clearly on both ends!
Regards,
Carty..
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Hi, I had from many years a HTC Himalaya and I loved it... but now I have bought an ETEN Glofiish M800... about the Customizable ROM here u can find a recently customized Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM for the Glofiish: http://eten-users.eu/index.php?showtopic=13538
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Cristian (aka tesKing)
i dont know for these new devices but for the x500/m700 ive read in many forums that eten devices with vga screens were "slow"
but ive tested none by myself
I have a TYTNII and bought the Eten M800 due to the VGA screen. The speed is more or less the same as for the HTC, i.e. slow but still useable. However you get VGA resolution in a very good quality screen. Apart form that, the M800 is almost inusable, it has touch sensitive buttons that make the everyday use a real PAIN. The WM6 is very unstable in this device probably due to the amount of (useless) applicattions that ETEN has preloaded. I found a workaround to the problem of the buttons:
1) Disable the touch buttons using the registry (leave "OK" and the Windows logo only)
2) Change the voice comnmander by the Cyberon Voice Speed dial
Then there is the problem of the paint....mine looks like 5 years old and has les than one month. Unfortunately I sold the TYTNII... too early.
I use the M800 and I am quite satisfied so far.
Sold my Touch Dual and apart from the weird touch buttons and the small RAM its a very nice device.
There are cooked roms available and you don't need to unlock anything. just put the ROM files on a FAT16 SD card, boot, hold a few buttons and 8 mins later its done.
GPSSlovakias WM 6.1 ROM for the M800 is stable and fast, much faster than the stock ROM.
i also disabled the buttons on the front. unfortunately they are not really usable.
the M810 is nice for sure, but only QVGA!
once you get used to a VGA screen you really cant go back anymore. the difference is huge. especially with apps that take full use of it, like the excellent Netfront 3.5 browser and PocketXpdf.
also it just looks that much cleaner. on TodayAgenda I can show much more info, the SPB Plus and Phone icons looks superb, etc...
IMHO its a great device but has a few shortcommings.
what i would love in the next eten:
128MB ram
flush screen
real front buttons
better keyboard
i would not say that the M800 is unusable. not for me, at least.
it was a great upgrade to my touch dual and as the dual has basically no hardware buttons, it doesnt make much difference that the M800 ones are unusable
btw, I used AE Button Plus for disabling the buttons as its more comfortable that way
the speed of the device is very good with the newest WM 6.1 ROM, really. and there is a new touch screen driver that resolves the 80% CPU bug when pressing the screen.
ROMs for ETEN M800
I agree that once you disable the buttons the device is just OK, specially the screen pays for the rest of the troubles (shared in part by HTC devices). However, I miss the nice send and end buttons of the TYTNII. Where do you get the cooked ROMs? Do you know if there is any available in spanish? I had to buy the WME version because apparently they don't market the device in Spain or any spanish speaking country or I haven't located any dealer selling a spanish version... Maybe it still does not exsist.
I've been able to enter in bootlader mode by pressing power+record+hw reset, then a terminal screen prompts for a USB loader and then for a SD card image file, however I haven't found any rom so far.
here:
WM 6.1 thread
but if you can wait, a new rom version will be upped, according to the thread starter.
I have the WWE version too, as they dont make them in German
no idea if there is a spanish rom.
of course good buttons would be nice, but i disabled the lower row and use the win, ok, left, right buttons and it works well that way.
btw if you click the record button twice, the touchbuttons get locked. if you click twice again, they get unlocked. maybe this is helpful for you
I see a lot of people complaining about the touch buttons but I am having a good experience with them. I found M800 really nice and usable.
Carty said:
They are completely different. O2 sometimes uses HTC for manufacturing devices but Eten is not like that. And the hardest part is, there are no much Eten users here in xda and so don't expect any custom ROMs.
PS: But as far as Ive experienced with Eten, unlike HTC, they themselves provide a heavily customized ROM which will definitely be faster than HTC! And call recording works clearly on both ends!
Regards,
Carty..
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What program do you use to record calls?
Thank you
Carty said:
They are completely different. O2 sometimes uses HTC for manufacturing devices but Eten is not like that. And the hardest part is, there are no much Eten users here in xda and so don't expect any custom ROMs.
PS: But as far as Ive experienced with Eten, unlike HTC, they themselves provide a heavily customized ROM which will definitely be faster than HTC! And call recording works clearly on both ends!
Regards,
Carty..
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Hi,
Could you tell, please, what program do you use to record on both ways with an E-ten?
Thank you
hi there....
should i buy this fone for 250€ ?
i got an HTC Wizard for 3 years.
The m800 is the worst phone I ever had..
Bad paint, flimsy battery cover, 64MB RAM (too low for the VGA screen).
Even my ancient universal is faster (also with 64 MB) then the m800..
Glad to have a diamond now.
My advice: it's not worth the money.
For 250 you can probably buy yourself a second hand Diamond..
I thank everybody whom helped us in getting this done, Really thankful to all whom brought the light on the much better x7510.
I was so afraid that it will be overlooked like the days at which the PDA 2 (Alpine) was neglected as to develop ROMs and fixes, and the Himalaya Took over the complete focus.
btw, I still have my Himalaya, going WM 6.1 all the way from WM2003.
That's why I Like to see the x7510 moves with me through time, without getting old.
1 Last thing, I know that this is a little rushing, but I want the x7510 to GET Windows Mobile 7.0 and 8.0 once they are released.
Again, Thanks to all whom brought the x7510 SECTION to Life.
Will
wm 7 and 8 will very likely not be ported to this device
1. no capacitive touchscreen which is a major stumbling block
2. very few developers so far for it
3. 7 is ages away, and 8... wtf?
plus, the nardware required for wm2003->wm6.1 is barely changed wm7 will bring multi touch and therefore the need for capacitive touchscreens.
communities with massive development sections (diamond,kaiser etc) from what ive read are sceptical about running wm7 on their devices...
you should probably concentrate on running a cooked rom before you think about wm7
Yep! I will focus and Dig down and up to get a ROM Cooked especially for my beloved x7510, Man its Magic... I love the device its just :
Like.Nther
Will
Hola Hola, I'm Lovin it!
OMG!! finally!!! it was about time.... WOOOOHOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
rorydaredkign said:
wm 7 and 8 will very likely not be ported to this device
1. no capacitive touchscreen which is a major stumbling block
2. very few developers so far for it
3. 7 is ages away, and 8... wtf?
plus, the nardware required for wm2003->wm6.1 is barely changed wm7 will bring multi touch and therefore the need for capacitive touchscreens.
communities with massive development sections (diamond,kaiser etc) from what ive read are sceptical about running wm7 on their devices...
you should probably concentrate on running a cooked rom before you think about wm7
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capacitive touchscreen will not be mandatory
the real problem here is lack of BSP but I'm still interested in getting WM7 onto this... won't be trivial task though
Are there any Windows Mobile or Android phones that have a dual-touch sensor like the iPhone/iPod touch? What I mean is, a phone that can recognize when you touch 2 spots on the screen at once?
The G1 or Htc dream has multi touch ( that's the correct name for that function) but you need to flash a custom rom for that. I'm no sure but i think that htc saphire and hero have multi touch as well
multi touch
htc hd2 but i have read this is only in some applications (Opera Mobile e.t.c)
HTC hero (android, sprint) has mulitouch enabled out of the box and so will the touch hd2 (windows mobile). Multitouch depends on the hardware so through software it can be enabled and older phones with the hardware like the G1
It depends on weather the screen is capacitive or resistive, im pretty sure resistive touch screens cant do multitouch but the benefit is that resistive are much more accurate
kaptix said:
It depends on weather the screen is capacitive or resistive, im pretty sure resistive touch screens cant do multitouch but the benefit is that resistive are much more accurate
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That couldn't be more true. Resistive is more accurate.
You wanna know why other phones are gonna be better than the iPhone. They will support MULTI touch. Not just 2 finger touch. Look at the Zune HD. That can support up to 4 finger touches. Mebe 5. (I gotta go check)
im really hoping they come out with a Zune HD type phone.. that would be amazing
kaptix said:
im really hoping they come out with a Zune HD type phone.. that would be amazing
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+1 to that.
Am I the only person that wants an MP3 player and Cell phone all in one? It's really hard to find a phone with a 3.5mm headphone jack. I hate needing an adapter.
HTC Touch Freak said:
That couldn't be more true. Resistive is more accurate.
You wanna know why other phones are gonna be better than the iPhone. They will support MULTI touch. Not just 2 finger touch. Look at the Zune HD. That can support up to 4 finger touches. Mebe 5. (I gotta go check)
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The iPhone surely supports more than two fingers as my brother's ipod touch has an app that has a 3 finger gesture/press.
JRK-Scope said:
The iPhone surely supports more than two fingers as my brother's ipod touch has an app that has a 3 finger gesture/press.
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That's rather intresting cause I could never get my ipod touch to do more than 2. Might be app dependent. But I can use any amount anywhere no the zune.
kaptix said:
im really hoping they come out with a Zune HD type phone.. that would be amazing
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That would be awesome! I could get blue screen crashes everytime I call work.. Now I have an excuse for not calling in... My phone says "unknown error" lolz microsoft... If they make a zune phone, I will run as far as I can from the store that sells it. good advice to keep close...
Hey all,
I know this is another one of those "can my phone handle WP7" threads that we all HATE to see but, My TP2 broke and Asurion is offering me a LG Fathom. After looking over the specs, I am wondering why it would not be capable of running Windows Phone 7.
It's got a smaller display but, it does have 1ghz snapdragon processor and very compareable to a HD2 (accept a lot smaller), it's newer than the HD2 and from the factory come with 6.5.3.
Has anyone attemped or thought at putting Windows Phone 7 on it ?
In case anyone has a broken TP2 and has the Insurance, they have no more...
We have one of these lying around in the shop as well, and would be nice to have as a WP7 development device. Anyone have any thoughts on the porting?
screen it is not multitouch, disregarding processor capabilities...
Regards!
Could an android device have wp7 ported over to it?
nicromant said:
screen it is not multitouch, disregarding processor capabilities...
Regards!
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That spells it out clearly. Bummer.
AZNSNSAZN said:
Could an android device have wp7 ported over to it?
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In theory it should not be a problem if the device in question has a WVGA screen, Snapgragon chipset and 512 or more MB of RAM. In practice you will need a compatible bootloader and so far only the HD2 has one....created for the occasion.
On the HD2 it's done the following way:
1. The original bootloader is hacked, so you can flash any unsigned stuff you may desire.
2. A second bootloader is flashed that goes in the chain after the original hacked bootloader.
3. For WinMobile 6.5 you use the original bootloader. Android and Windows Phone 7 are flashed and booted by the second bootloader, which is a completely custom creation.
You will need something like MAGLDR on the HD2 for any device in order to get a second OS running as the original bootloader will probably not support the needed partition layouts etc. Other than that every Desire, Nexus One or similar device should be perfectly capable of running WP7.