How should I format my microsd card???? - General Questions and Answers

First off, In advance, I GREATLY appreciate your time and efforts.
I had an AT&T Tilt with an 8gb microsd card formatted with a FAT32 file system, 512 byte sector size, a 4kb cluster size, and NO Backup Fat. For some reason with this formatting, I was unable to add very large files (over 100mb) to the card using activesync. The only way I was able to do this was to download the file from the internet, and to the phone/storage card.
Now, I just bought a brand new AT&T Tilt 2, and have an 8gb microsd card waiting for me at the post office. How should I format this new card so I can add large files (for TOM TOM 7).. Im assuming the problem im having falls with the "cluster size"?? Thanks very much for your help. Happy holidays.

I don't think WinMo will do NTFS anyways, so that's out of the question. Might be best to leave the formatting settings on default.
I usually use the disk drive mode to transfer files though, rather than activesync.

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Is there A-B file copy utility?

Looking for a program to copy files from one flash card to another one.
Just like on a PC with only one floppy disk drive: if you copy a file from A to B, it asks you to insert the source, then the target disk etc. many times depending on the file(s) size(s) and available RAM.
Multiple files handling with subdirectory trees is much appreciated!
If you're going to be re-inserting a new flash card anyway, you might as well temporarily drop the files to your desktop and then copy them back over to the B card. That's all the PC will do anyway, make a temp cache of the files.
Otherwise, get yourself another flash drive or one with two slots.
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First of all, I mean such a software on my HTC TyTN, or, widely speaking, under WM5.
Then, because it should work on a phone, with limited internal storage space, and for the sake of useability, copying via the internal storage does not work.
I intentionally mentiones how DOS copy/xcopy/diskcopy commands worked between virtual drives: they were reading portions into RAM. You see, it also worked on PCs without a hard drive... you know, there were some...
Ahhm, I am just wondering how do you expect such program to work on your TyTN?
The smallest SD card sold today is 32MB (who buys that any way) and most people use 1 - 2 GB cards. No PPC device available today has enough RAM to hold that much data. In fact RAM is usually even more precious then internal storage.
Theoretically you could do it in portions, but do you really want to copy 2GB worth of data 10 - 20 MB at a time constantly switching between cards?
Floppies are not a good analogy in this case as they are usually about 1.3MB and even computers from 10 years ago had enough RAM to accomodate that.

4MB SD memory card

My Qtek 9000 cannot recognize 4GB SD card (DANE-ELETC)
Your help much appreciated.
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I guess you mean 4Gb SD Card.
Is it SDHC?
If so, then it would be worth looking in the Universal accessories board at what people have to say, which is 'no' for the sdhc cards.
I bought a 4 Gb card but it is a non-sdhc type so that it would work.
Cheers
Fish
I can't seem to find the manufacturer's website. Can you post the the spec sheet of the model you have got?
fishtastic said:
I guess you mean 4Gb SD Card.
Is it SDHC?
If so, then it would be worth looking in the Universal accessories board at what people have to say, which is 'no' for the sdhc cards.
I bought a 4 Gb card but it is a non-sdhc type so that it would work.
Cheers
Fish
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Yes is a SDHC, So the qtek 9000 need a non=sdhc type 4Gb Card.
Thank you
jose
josedias said:
Yes is a SDHC, So the qtek 9000 need a non=sdhc type 4Gb Card.
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Exactly...I'm using a 4Gb transcend non-HC and it's works find ...!! I heard about problems concerning the SDHC for the universal... Maybe you should change your SD
Transcend 4GB 'SD' card getting corrupted repeatedly
I have one annoying problem,It is the third time that my Transcend 4GB SD card got corrupted without any reason ( as far as I know ).
It goes like this --I just moved one .jpg image ( clicked with my Universal ) from main memory to card -- a my document--my pictures folder,then I checked it ,the entire my document folder is empty..around 150 MB.No data recovery tool can retrieve it.
The default file explorer and Resco explore read the card differently --950 Mb and 1100 MB respectively.The data is gone,the space 150 MB is gone.On previous two occasions,there was not any transfer of any data from device to card yet it happened .I had the card replaced,but it is very annoying to live in this impending possibility of losing the data.
What is the cause of this problem?WM6?Universal?ROM?4GB?Transcend?
I never had this problem with 1 GB cards.What is the solution?Please suggest something,anything.
There are a couple of WM6 roms which can corrupt your SD card.
But it shouldn't make a difference if you have a 512 mb card or 4 gb.
Did you upgrade to WM6 and then got the 4gb card?
You could try to flash back to the original wm5 rom from your manufacturer, good change the problem's gone then.
ROM change?
No Sir,
I did have this problem with WM5 and to get rid of it I shifted to WM6,but the problem persists.Other people with WM5/6 with 'NCP' 4GB are doing fine,I am also going to try it.Like I said I never had any problems with 1GB.
I like the HTML mail support in WM6 and I need it for the attachments so I'd rather keep WM6.
One more thing, the file explorer SOMETIMES shows two separate folders viz. storage card 1 & storage card 2, and in storage card 1 there are only files called mail attachments.At the same time all the today shortcuts and programmes on the card are 'uninstalled',Then I have to hard reset and install the back-up file and everything comes to normal.What does it mean?Please clarify.
kalya said:
One more thing, the file explorer SOMETIMES shows two separate folders viz. storage card 1 & storage card 2, and in storage card 1 there are only files called mail attachments.At the same time all the today shortcuts and programmes on the card are 'uninstalled',Then I have to hard reset and install the back-up file and everything comes to normal.What does it mean?Please clarify.
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This is a known issue. Sometimes the system forgets about the exixstence of SD card. You can brows here for such cases. People claim that it happens while the battery goes low or for some other reason.
However, if this happens, and some of your apps are set up for using Storage Card for saving it's data, then the system creates a folder named "Storage Card" in the main memory. Then if you softreset or recharge your device, the system finds again your SD card and tries to give it a name "Storadge Card", but this already exists, so it names it as "Storadge Card1", and so on.
Solution:
Ither delete the "Storage Card" folder from main memory or rename it as you wish, and then rename your card as "Storage Card" and softreset your device. It should help.
okay
Tadeusz said:
This is a known issue. Sometimes the system forgets about the exixstence of SD card. You can brows here for such cases. People claim that it happens while the battery goes low or for some other reason.
However, if this happens, and some of your apps are set up for using Storage Card for saving it's data, then the system creates a folder named "Storage Card" in the main memory. Then if you softreset or recharge your device, the system finds again your SD card and tries to give it a name "Storadge Card", but this already exists, so it names it as "Storadge Card1", and so on.
Solution:
Ither delete the "Storage Card" folder from main memory or rename it as you wish, and then rename your card as "Storage Card" and softreset your device. It should help.
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Okay,
Thanks for explaining and the simple solution.
But a soft reset doesn't solve it,reinstalling the backup(I use SPB)does.
But what about the card getting corrupted,losing data and vanishing folders?Is there any cause and solution for it? Or should I go for another card manufacturer as decided?
i have tested 1 gig sdhc
i have tested 1 gig sdhc toshiba class4 and it worked on universal
onlineemails said:
i have tested 1 gig sdhc toshiba class4 and it worked on universal
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SDHC start at 2gb, you have a normal SD.
Native universal SD driver does not support SDHC, the driver ignores CMD8 that is required for SDHC to work. I've purchased 8Gb card and can tell that after patching - Uni started to recognize it. But testing is required before publishing a patch.
mamaich said:
SDHC start at 2gb, you have a normal SD.
Native universal SD driver does not support SDHC, the driver ignores CMD8 that is required for SDHC to work. I've purchased 8Gb card and can tell that after patching - Uni started to recognize it. But testing is required before publishing a patch.
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mamaich, you are wonderful.
mamaich said:
SDHC start at 2gb, you have a normal SD.
Native universal SD driver does not support SDHC, the driver ignores CMD8 that is required for SDHC to work. I've purchased 8Gb card and can tell that after patching - Uni started to recognize it. But testing is required before publishing a patch.
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Does this patch involve physically deforming the SD Card such that its lifetime warranty (lifetime warranty is applicable to some SD cards only) becomes void?
Does this patch involve physically deforming the SD Card such that its lifetime warranty (lifetime warranty is applicable to some SD cards only) becomes void?
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LOL
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"Native universal SD driver does not support SDHC, the driver ignores CMD8 that is required for SDHC to work. I've purchased 8Gb card and can tell that after patching - Uni started to recognize it. But testing is required before publishing a patch"
Can it work with the Universal running WM5?
Thanks
FOSA said:
Can it work with the Universal running WM5?
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Very curious to hear the answer to this as well!!
FOSA said:
Can it work with the Universal running WM5?
Thanks
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no. WM6 aku 0.2 and later are required.
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LOL
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I always wished a scenario would come up where I could ask such a question and make it seem valid at the same time
How about 4GB SDHC?
If 8GB SDHC can be used then how about using a 4GB SDHC card?
And please make it possible,soon,Mamaich.Thanks.

Very slow copying to SD card

I have a new 8 GB Ultra SD card on my TP.
Copying 5-10MB file to SD card is very fast, but when I tried to copy 100MB file transfer is very very slow.
First I tried to copy a file from PC to SD card, than also from device internal memory to SD card. Exactly the same behaivor. At the beginning transfer data rate is about 1MB/s. After about 35% it drops to about 70KB/s. At the end is about 25KB/s only (very very slow).
SD card is formatted FAT32/512. It was formatted with two different programs.
Any hint?
Thanks for help in advance!
are you transferiing the file through active sync or disk drive mode
USb transfer is always slow, it if fastest for me to simply remove the card and use it directly on the PC. I know others do to.
get a better SD card? eg. Class 6?
Try tnyynt SD TuneUp (cab below). See this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=451983&page=2
I used this when I 1'st got my Micro SDHC Class 6 card:
http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/sd/download/sd_formatter.html
Just a comment.
When I copy 250MB file from PC to SD card via Card Reader transfer is finished in 10 seconds. So I think that a card is not a problem (file system included).
I will try SD TuneUP.cab!
Also note the question from puddle22 above. Transfer via Activesync is always slower, primarily because it's a connection geared toward the entire pda system. If you connect as a usb drive, then it's just reading your SD card and should be much faster.
I understand that transfer rate on activesync is much slower, but with the rate of 50KB/s it is extremelly slow. On my HERMES with my old 2GB SD card is much much faster on big files (>100MB).
It is also strange that transfer from TP to SD card is very slow too.
That is odd. Just a shot in the dark here, but have you tried a different cable?

[Q] playing movies from 64gb sd card

I have a Note 10.1 with a 32gb sd card. I put a bunch of mp4 movies on the card and can play them without any problems on my note 10.1. I started running low on space so I got a 64gb sd card. I copied some movies to the card and figured everything would play just like with the 32gb card. However, the movies won't play. They are on the card, the titles show up on my list, but the length of the movie shows as 00:00:00. I know the data is on the card Beca use when I look at what is taking up space on the memory card, the movies are a big chunk of it. Can anyone tell me how I can get them to play? I don't get what the difference is between playing from the 32gb card and the 64gb card.
Thanks, GL
Might just be a copy error, can you use a card reader and play the movies off your PC
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It looks like your microSD is corrupted:
Unplug your microSD from your SGN 10.1
Insert it into a MS Windows PC
Press Win+R then type: chkdsk [your_card_drive_letter]: /x /f /r
Wait until it is finish checking
After finish & if it found some errors open Windows Explorer & in the Address Bar type: [your_card_drive_letter]:\FOUND.[3_digit_number]
Replace [3_digit_number] with (usually) 000 or increment it by 1 if there is no folder by that name.
Inspect the file(s) if there's an important file (look at the content, not the filename)
After everything is done you can try to repeat step 1 again to make sure.
Re-copy the movie you want to watch
Replace [your_card_drive_letter] with the appropriate letter of your microSD card.
Thanks, but I have a mac. I tried formatting the card to FAT32 with disc utility. That may have been what messed the card up. It's strange, because my tablet recognizes the card and shows that it's a 64gb card, other functions work normally as far as saving data to it, but it won't play the movies. I've also tried formatting the card with sdFormatter for mac. It goes through the whole process and says the card has been formatted, yet it ends up the same as before I started. There are still folders on it that should have been erased during the process, and when I load a movie on it and try playing it on the tablet still nothing. I have tried formatting the card in the tablet, but the same thing happens. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, GL
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It looks like your microSD is corrupted:
Unplug your microSD from your SGN 10.1
Insert it into a MS Windows PC
Press Win+R then type: chkdsk [your_card_drive_letter]: /x /f /r
Wait until it is finish checking
After finish & if it found some errors open Windows Explorer & in the Address Bar type: [your_card_drive_letter]:\FOUND.[3_digit_number]
Replace [3_digit_number] with (usually) 000 or increment it by 1 if there is no folder by that name.
Inspect the file(s) if there's an important file (look at the content, not the filename)
After everything is done you can try to repeat step 1 again to make sure.
Re-copy the movie you want to watch
Replace [your_card_drive_letter] with the appropriate letter of your microSD card.
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gl.08chc said:
Thanks, but I have a mac. I tried formatting the card to FAT32 with disc utility. That may have been what messed the card up. It's strange, because my tablet recognizes the card and shows that it's a 64gb card, other functions work normally as far as saving data to it, but it won't play the movies. I've also tried formatting the card with sdFormatter for mac. It goes through the whole process and says the card has been formatted, yet it ends up the same as before I started. There are still folders on it that should have been erased during the process, and when I load a movie on it and try playing it on the tablet still nothing. I have tried formatting the card in the tablet, but the same thing happens. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, GL
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Never ever use FAT32 on 64GB & above storage (any storage)
Filesystem standard for storage nowadays is dominated by Microsoft, so you need Ms Windows to repair any errors without compromising any other data by formatting it (I hate this, but what can I say....).
Luckily, in Linux (Mac long lost sibling ) there's a tool called fsck & it can check & repair any MS filesystem (not recommended but handy if needed)
And also LUCKILY......Android=Linux.....
Back to point 1,AGAIN.....never EVER use FAT32 on 64GB & above storage.
The following limitations exist using the FAT32 file system with Windows operating systems:
Clusters cannot be 64 kilobytes (KB) or larger. If clusters were 64 KB or larger, some programs (such as Setup programs) might calculate disk space incorrectly.
A volume must contain at least 65,527 clusters to use the FAT32 file system. You cannot increase the cluster size on a volume using the FAT32 file system so that it ends up with less than 65,527 clusters.
The maximum possible number of clusters on a volume using the FAT32 file system is 268,435,445. With a maximum of 32 KB per cluster with space for the file allocation table (FAT), this equates to a maximum disk size of approximately 8 terabytes (TB).
The ScanDisk tool included with Microsoft Windows 95 and Microsoft Windows 98 is a 16-bit program. Such programs have a single memory block maximum allocation size of 16 MB less 64 KB. Therefore, The Windows 95 or Windows 98 ScanDisk tool cannot process volumes using the FAT32 file system that have a FAT larger than 16 MB less 64 KB in size. A FAT entry on a volume using the FAT32 file system uses 4 bytes, so ScanDisk cannot process the FAT on a volume using the FAT32 file system that defines more than 4,177,920 clusters (including the two reserved clusters). Including the FATs themselves, this works out, at the maximum of 32 KB per cluster, to a volume size of 127.53 gigabytes (GB).
You cannot decrease the cluster size on a volume using the FAT32 file system so that the FAT ends up larger than 16 MB less 64 KB in size.
You cannot format a volume larger than 32 GB in size using the FAT32 file system in Windows 2000. The Windows 2000 FastFAT driver can mount and support volumes larger than 32 GB that use the FAT32 file system (subject to the other limits), but you cannot create one using the Format tool. This behavior is by design. If you need to create a volume larger than 32 GB, use the NTFS file system instead.
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Source: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/184006
It means that the maximum capacity that FAT32 supports is 32GB.
Normally, 64GB & above storage come with exFAT from the factory....until....you format it to FAT32.
In MS Windows, you can't format 64GB & above storage with FAT32 (even if you want to).
Unfortunately, Mac & Linux users can accidentally format it to FAT32.
How to covert it to exFAT without losing data?
In MS Windows: convert /FS:EXFAT
In Linux: gparted
As you use Mac, I don't know how to do that....BUT, I can recommend you to use any Linux LIVECD/DVD.
I'm using Linux Mint & in the LiveCD Gparted is included.
it's a partitioning application with GUI (of the command line tool called parted)
Try it & ask me if you have any question.
Ok, thanks. I was formatting to FAT32 because that's what I read on one of these forums was the way to be able to use a 64gb card with my tablet. I will try your suggestions when I get back into town next week and let you know how it goes. Thanks for the help, hope this works
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Ok, thanks. I was formatting to FAT32 because that's what I read on one of these forums was the way to be able to use a 64gb card with my tablet. I will try your suggestions when I get back into town next week and let you know how it goes. Thanks for the help, hope this works
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I don't know what ROM that you use but remember to UPDATE beforehand.
exFAT filesystem needs a kernel support & older Android kernel version doesn't support it.
Using custom kernel can guarantee kernel support for exFAT.

MicroSD Card Problems

I've seen other threads allude to this, but I've been wondering if anyone else has had any of these problems with microSD cars in the Phab2 Pro and know of any solutions?
Things I've encountered:
No exFAT support, so you need to format larger cards as FAT32 (not really a problem per se, but annoying).
All the Samsung EVO/EVO+ SD cards I've tried in this thing do fine as portable SD cards until it exceeds around 10GB, then a re-boot or re-mount claims the card is corrupted. Mounting the card on my PC/Mac shows no problems.
Adoptable storage works for my large 128GB EVO+ card (which made me not return the phone), but I notice that my 64GB EVO card can't be adopted and the error is a weird toast message:
"java.util.concurrent.TimeoutException: Thread Binder gave up waiting after 180000ms" (something to this effect from my recollection).
I should point out that these SD cards have never had problems on other Android devices I've owned, so it seems very specific to this device. Basically, the only workaround I have right now that works for me is to use adoptable storage and that is adequate for my needs.
The Lenovo Phab2 Pro, by default, reformats newly installed microSD cards to a better file system than FAT32. See post below:
Not FAT32
Got my new Samsung 64GB microSD card & installed it in my Phab2 Pro last weekend. First thing, the Phab2 Pro reported that the card was not formatted properly and did I want it reformatted? I did and it did.
Looking now at the newly formatted microSD card with ES File Explorer and with Lenovo's bundled File Manager, I couldn't tell which standard the card was formatted to.
To the point, I plugged the phone into my laptop, navigated to the microSD card in Windows File Explorer and copied a 6GB file to it, no problem. I verified that the copy was successful by disconnecting the phone from the laptop and opening the file in Android.
I don't know which file system the Phab2 Pro uses by default to format microSD cards but I know it ISN'T FAT32. FAT32 supports a maximum file size of 4GB and, since the microSD card supports larger files (after allowing the phone to reformat the card to its default file system), it isn't FAT32.
roebling said:
Got my new Samsung 64GB microSD card & installed it in my Phab2 Pro last weekend. First thing, the Phab2 Pro reported that the card was not formatted properly and did I want it reformatted? I did and it did.
Looking now at the newly formatted microSD card with ES File Explorer and with Lenovo's bundled File Manager, I couldn't tell which standard the card was formatted to.
To the point, I plugged the phone into my laptop, navigated to the microSD card in Windows File Explorer and copied a 6GB file to it, no problem. I verified that the copy was successful by disconnecting the phone from the laptop and opening the file in Android.
I don't know which file system the Phab2 Pro uses by default to format microSD cards but I know it ISN'T FAT32. FAT32 supports a maximum file size of 4GB and, since the microSD card supports larger files (after allowing the phone to reformat the card to its default file system), it isn't FAT32.
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Any idea what file system Windows thinks it is? I didn't think it was exFAT since a fresh format of exFAT from Windows gets the "not formatted properly" message.
I've since given up on this phone--too many problems for me to tolerate. I really wanted to like it, but alas, when my three year old Z Ultra behaves better, I just can't justify paying this much for it. Maybe I got a lemon.
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Any idea what file system Windows thinks it is? I didn't think it was exFAT since a fresh format of exFAT from Windows gets the "not formatted properly" message.
I've since given up on this phone--too many problems for me to tolerate. I really wanted to like it, but alas, when my three year old Z Ultra behaves better, I just can't justify paying this much for it. Maybe I got a lemon.
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You have two formatting choices for microSD cards with the Phab2 Pro. You can choose to format the card as "portable storage" or "internal storage".
I just put in a 64GB microSD card and had the phone format it as portable storage, I then ejected it and mounted it in Windows and the Disk Manager tool reports the card as formatted as FAT32 (see attachment).
Installed a SanDisk 256GB card model (SDSQUNI-256G-GN6MA)
Let the phone format the card, choose internal storage, then it asked to move files, pics and apps to the new card, I clicked accept.
It worked! Phone reads the card, so far no issues, see attached pic.
128GB or 256 ?
Hi,
you said in the last message you have a 256GB card, but i have seen the phab 2 pro take 128 and no more. I have the 690M model.
256 or 128 GB ?
Thanks,
Philippe
I have the 690Y and took a chance to see if the 256GB card would work and it does. That's why I listed the model number of the SD card. Even though Lenovo states on their website up to 128GB, it looks like it's​ a hit or miss on which card you use as others have posted.
Hi,
Thanks for your answer. The 256G is to expansive so i took a 128G (SDSQUNC-128G-GN6MA). It works fine.
Philippe
Hi please help me!,any brand of sd card it shows corrupted,but if i tried to other phone it worked. What will i do?

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