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Google Maps Navigation for CDMA Hero???

Has anybody gotten this to work on CDMA Hero's???
http://www.gadgetvenue.com/google-maps-navigation-works-usa-11233152/

1.6 only....we are on 1.5. Not going to happen.

As noted, requires 1.6+.
We will be getting 2.0 eventually, probably a few months from now. Keep your fingers crossed.

Why are we waiting?
This is not how open source is supposed to work. We're not birds in a nest waiting for a worm. We don't wait for them, they have to keep up with us.
IMHO we should put aside the idea of holding out for Sprint, months or even weeks for 2.0 is WAY too long in 2009. The code is up (all of it now?), the SDK is up. Let's build it!
This, to me, is one of the most disturbing trends in Android, each manufacturer providing tweaks or proprietary GUI's that put them in control of the development cycle. In my humble opinion we need to get past that as soon as humanly possible. If that means ditching Rosie and Blur, so be it.
Today we wait for Google Nav, tomorrow we'll wait for security updates bugs, optimizations, and most importantly cool developer tweaks. Hell, we waited 6 weeks for the piddly MR update that fixed problems that should have been solved before the phone left the store.
Can someone with more intimate knowledge of Android (I'm studying it now myself so I can help) say something about how to get to a clean, universal Android ROM? I'm happy to help however I can.

5tr4t4 said:
This is not how open source is supposed to work. We're not birds in a nest waiting for a worm. We don't wait for them, they have to keep up with us.
IMHO we should put aside the idea of holding out for Sprint, months or even weeks for 2.0 is WAY too long in 2009. The code is up (all of it now?), the SDK is up. Let's build it!
This, to me, is one of the most disturbing trends in Android, each manufacturer providing tweaks or proprietary GUI's that put them in control of the development cycle. In my humble opinion we need to get past that as soon as humanly possible. If that means ditching Rosie and Blur, so be it.
Today we wait for Google Nav, tomorrow we'll wait for security updates bugs, optimizations, and most importantly cool developer tweaks. Hell, we waited 6 weeks for the piddly MR update that fixed problems that should have been solved before the phone left the store.
Can someone with more intimate knowledge of Android (I'm studying it now myself so I can help) say something about how to get to a clean, universal Android ROM? I'm happy to help however I can.
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I can't agree with you more. When I transfered to the android platform I was under the assumption that what u said supposed to happen was the case.
However I hear it's very difficult to build a 2.0 for hero.
You see the "drivers" that are in the hero right now will not work on 2.0. If you build the provided open source 2.0 rom, you will get an OS with no tie to the hardware. a map with gps a phone with no radio and a browser with no wifi. which will be useless to any one.

sm_x said:
You see the "drivers" that are in the hero right now will not work on 2.0. If you build the provided open source 2.0 rom, you will get an OS with no tie to the hardware. a map with gps a phone with no radio and a browser with no wifi. which will be useless to any one.
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Uha, I know. The Linux guys warned us years ago about allowing proprietary drivers in Linux (see the old NVIDIA debate, for instance). So you have a kernel that can't talk to the hardware until manufacturer X says it can.
And so we wait for HTC or Qualcomm or whomever to release their drivers.
Sorry for the rant (and thanks for the solidarity, sm-x), this Google Nav thing just set me off. The hack-a-day progress on XDA is really wonderful but we should have real access to the code so we can make it better, not just reverse engineering...I can do that on my iPhone/iPod.

2.0 is out of the question without the binaries from HTC, but 1.6 should be doable with the 1.5 bits. It'd take someone with a lot of time and dedication, though.

kRutOn said:
2.0 is out of the question without the binaries from HTC, but 1.6 should be doable with the 1.5 bits. It'd take someone with a lot of time and dedication, though.
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How about tricking the rom into showing itself as 1.6? Not sure what all that would entail tho

5tr4t4 said:
This is not how open source is supposed to work. We're not birds in a nest waiting for a worm. We don't wait for them, they have to keep up with us.
IMHO we should put aside the idea of holding out for Sprint, months or even weeks for 2.0 is WAY too long in 2009. The code is up (all of it now?), the SDK is up. Let's build it!
This, to me, is one of the most disturbing trends in Android, each manufacturer providing tweaks or proprietary GUI's that put them in control of the development cycle. In my humble opinion we need to get past that as soon as humanly possible. If that means ditching Rosie and Blur, so be it.
Today we wait for Google Nav, tomorrow we'll wait for security updates bugs, optimizations, and most importantly cool developer tweaks. Hell, we waited 6 weeks for the piddly MR update that fixed problems that should have been solved before the phone left the store.
Can someone with more intimate knowledge of Android (I'm studying it now myself so I can help) say something about how to get to a clean, universal Android ROM? I'm happy to help however I can.
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I also agree with this. I wrote up a little article about it:
http://www.thesearethedroids.com/2009/11/24/a-look-into-custom-ui/

well said gents

This is ridiculous...

Anyone still on 2.1 is officially obsolete. Google has released a ton of new features for froyo and gingerbread users. Including google instant, new gmail app, and other things.
Which leaves 2.1 users with old software never to be upgraded again.
I still haven't flashed (due to warranty issues) but even if I did I would be upset because it still is based on buggy pre-release software.
Based on the epic 4g leak the froyo should be version 2.2.1 so new roms would be 2.2.1 instead of buggy 2.2
Why doesn't samsung care about their customers!

Yea, I share your sentiments. I tried most of the 2.2 leak ROMs, but most had troubles. The list of apps that don't work on 2.1 and below is growing. I wonder if Google Maps 5 will be the same way.

I really thinking about just buying an unlocked nexus s but then i realize its still samsung!!!
I returned a samsung tv i bought for my family for christmas because they suck so much ;D

The more I read about this (and the GPS malfunction), the more I think that when my Captivate arrives tomorrow I may just take it into an AT$T store and demand a refund and contract cancellation.

What we need is a Samsung Customer Service number we can start calling to voice our opinions. Any have a good Samsung number for this or a similar purpose?

Yes more than half of android devices are "obsolete"...

Return it? Because your too lazy to flash your phone with functional software instead of the junk Samsung and att gave us? I've been rocking the beta cm 6.1 for quite awhile and blows the doors off any 2.1 variant that was out there.....and as far as voiding your warranty its almost impossible to brick these phones so its completely easy to flash back to an out of the box state. So quit whining. This is what makes android so great. Take a phone with amazing hardware with crappy software and put amazing software on it
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For one, I'm not lazy or whining. I shouldn't have to flash my phone to get basic functionality out of it. The GPS should work without my having to invest in searching through a myriad of unauthorized solutions and risk not only voiding my warranty, but bricking my phone. If I wanted to put this much effort into making a phone work I would have stuck with WinMo 6.5 and my Tilt 2, which I know inside and out already. I moved to Android hoping I'd no longer have to spend so much time dicking around with my phone just to get things to work. You know, the whole "Droid Does" marketing ploy? The main reason I agreed to buy this phone was because I read on several different sites where Samsung said they were definitely going to update it to Froyo. I understand that their timetable may be off, but they should at least keep their promise. Is that too much to ask or expect?

Samsung promised Froyo by the end of the year for the US Market. They still have a 20 days. Their stance has not changed, so I don't see what anyone has to complain about.
As for GPS mine works as good as the one on my Bravo - my Tracks, Turn by Turn are the same. If your GPS has problems, take it back. If you try multiple phones and still have a problem, then make them switch you to another phone.

everyone knows they won't make the end of december date

It's not that I don't want to try custom ROMs. However, all the custom ROMs are built on leaked (and often buggy) Froyo ROMs. The sooner AT&T releases an official release Froyo ROM, the sooner we can get a stable (or more stable) custom Froyo ROM....hopefully they release the source code too. There's code in the custom ROMs that comes from all sorts of other ROMs lol

Ditto^^^ Well, according to Mr. Smalls, we're just lazy, whiny jerks with no valid excuse for not wanting to use a custom ROM on our phones.

emuneee said:
It's not that I don't want to try custom ROMs. However, all the custom ROMs are built on leaked (and often buggy) Froyo ROMs. The sooner AT&T releases an official release Froyo ROM, the sooner we can get a stable (or more stable) custom Froyo ROM....hopefully they release the source code too. There's code in the custom ROMs that comes from all sorts of other ROMs lol
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try axura.. VERY stable, fast, practical rom with good themes. its a work of art. been rocking it with very minimal issue (less issues compared to stock).

Miami_Son said:
For one, I'm not lazy or whining. I shouldn't have to flash my phone to get basic functionality out of it. The GPS should work without my having to invest in searching through a myriad of unauthorized solutions and risk not only voiding my warranty, but bricking my phone. If I wanted to put this much effort into making a phone work I would have stuck with WinMo 6.5 and my Tilt 2, which I know inside and out already. I moved to Android hoping I'd no longer have to spend so much time dicking around with my phone just to get things to work. You know, the whole "Droid Does" marketing ploy? The main reason I agreed to buy this phone was because I read on several different sites where Samsung said they were definitely going to update it to Froyo. I understand that their timetable may be off, but they should at least keep their promise. Is that too much to ask or expect?
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Am I correct that you don't even have your device as you're typing that?! Try it first..a lot of the stuff you read isn't what you will experience. I.E.: my gps has worked a charm since I picked mine up in mid October..it's an excellent device. I've had a Samsung DLP for more than 2 years and it works flawlessly. People like to rant..find out for yourself for chrissake. It's nice to be happy with a cell device for the first time in awhile for me..only complaint is att dragging heels on 2.2. I'm too busy and old (55) to have the energy to do all that stuff that many do..but it's also nice to know that if I get tired of waiting and get a wild hair, I'll root and flash when I'm good and ready. Meantime I think the Captivate is a great companion

From what I've heard, I think that it might be the carriers that are delaying the update. Don't know if this is true or not but I kinda doubt this is Samsung's fault.

@fldude, Thanks for the encouragement. I used to love fiddling with my WinMo phones and I enjoyed modding my Tilt 2 to where it runs great and does (almost) all I ask of it. I'd still be using it if WinMo wasn't a dead platform and the thing wasn't so laggy. That saidI was hoping the switch to Android would mean I finallly would have a phone that I could tinker with if I wanted to, but didn't HAVE to, like WinMo. I guess reading through these forums exposes one mostly to the negative since most people only post when having problems. I brushed most of it aside, but the GPS issue really stood out because I use GPS-enabled apps a lot and it works so well on my Tilt 2. I can't wait for the Cap to get here tomorrow so I can start playing with it. Thanks to running XDAndroid on my Tilt 2 I already have some idea of what to expect and how to use it.
I will say this, reading about rooting and flashing of Android, kernel this and apk that is a lot more intimidating than working with WinMo. I never hesitated to edit my registry, but modding Android sounds pretty scary.
By the way, does fl mean you're a fellow H-D rider?

alphadog00 said:
Samsung promised Froyo by the end of the year for the US Market. They still have a 20 days. Their stance has not changed, so I don't see what anyone has to complain about.
As for GPS mine works as good as the one on my Bravo - my Tracks, Turn by Turn are the same. If your GPS has problems, take it back. If you try multiple phones and still have a problem, then make them switch you to another phone.
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They were previously quoted saying by the end of November. There was that whole JH7 fiasco. And your argument doesn't change what he was saying. His whole point was that he shouldn't have to **** around to make it work. It just should.

david717;971 His whole point was that he shouldn't have to **** around to make it work. It just should.[/QUOTE said:
Ummm, I'm stock, never rooted, make phone calls, email, navigate with gps, surf the web, play games, usw.. How is this not a working phone? By my calculations this phone does "just work" and has since I pulled it out of its box in July.
I too am waiting for, now, v2.2.1...
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Before I bought mine I knee of the GPS issues and swwvthat a fix was coming. It still is. Besides the GPS my phone just works. Texting browsing g music video all just worked email too. Running the froyo leak my phone now completely 100% percent works. I'm excited to see how much more stable the official release will be.
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Also Frustrated
I have been following the forums regarding the so called Froyo release and I have to say that I am rather frustrated as well. I actually called AT&T last week to complain about the delay with Froyo with Gingerbread's release within a few weeks. Not to mention Honeycomb on the horizon.
In speaking with one of the techs he also shared his frustrations and was hoping that it would be released in early January. I told him that it was understood that it would be release at the end of the year and he confirmed that same understanding. However his sources revealed that it is now for early January. Let's hope this is true, but as you all know we have been given so many empty promises.
Furthermore,I read an article that Samsung is undecided whether to release Gingerbread for the Galaxy devices. For a product that has been so popular and successful, what are they thinking? Or maybe they are not!!
Either way my fingers and toes are crossed for Froyo for now...

[Q] I Can Haz Ice Cream?

So its going to be released pretty soon.. what are the odds of the Captivate getting some love?
http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/19/in...axy-nexus-and-ice-cream-sandwich-android-4-0/

Unfortunately, I'm going to have to go with 'Nil.'

The chances are non existent. It just makes business sense for for these updates to take forever. I do understand there are some hardware issues with the updates but in the end the average consumer is going to purchase a new phone or use their upgrade in order to get the latest os. If they keep updating old phones to the newest stuff people would hold onto their phone longer. I mean, ths is the first phone ive ever owned that I could flash custom roms onto. Before this I was locked into the operating system and whatever user interface was on the phone when I purchased it. If I hadnt found this forum or custom roms I would be frustrated by the lack of gingerbread and probably would have used my upgrade by now.

No hope. Most of the features aside from the UI wont work anyways due to not having the hardware (NFC) or lack of CPU and RAM (Camera features).
Just get a nice theme

they have it up and running on fascinates, as of 5AM this morning

We didnt even get official GB and we want ICS.....lol so greedy we people are...

Hell yeah Well rogers got the official gb , but att, com'on, forget about it.

First, do a little more searching. There is alreadya thread open for this topic.
That said, we will never see an official update. Our only hope of seeing it is from a port, courtesy of a device that does get it, or wait on CyagenMod to start on CM9.

Be patient. It'll be ported eventually.

I find it amazing that somone already has it somewhat running on their fascinate. I guess all the great Cappy dev's have jumped ship

Well, i'd be surprised to see ICS for our captivate. Even if cyanogen mod is getting ICS, i probably won't jump because of the superior call quality and slightly (if not better) battery life on captivate ROMs.

I thought there was some sort of court ruling forcing google to push the same version of android to all phones that were capable. I could be talking out of my ass though.

mrhaley30705 said:
First, do a little more searching. There is alreadya thread open for this topic.
That said, we will never see an official update. Our only hope of seeing it is from a port, courtesy of a device that does get it, or wait on CyagenMod to start on CM9.
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Um I did? - and even the XDA board didn't give me the topic yet so meh.
And someone has this starting to run on the Fascinate?? The Captivate is THE phone that seems to get the most love besides the Vibrant for this range of devices.
And I don't care how we get it... as long as someone is able to wedge it into the phone.

You know, it's open source.
Any of you asking for it can take a crack at it
I am seriously inexperienced, but this might be a good start to a programming career..

erbsmokah said:
I thought there was some sort of court ruling forcing google to push the same version of android to all phones that were capable. I could be talking out of my ass though.
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Nope, not even in the ballpark. Google has no legal obligation to any phone. What you are thinking of is how Google made the main phone produces agree to try harder to keep the phones up to date (up to one and a half years past release aka 18months). But that did not extend to the carriers...
Else they have to stop using the "Android" name and Google's apps
leaked from my FUSED SGS I897 contaminating you via XDA app.

JayFReaZy said:
I find it amazing that somone already has it somewhat running on their fascinate. I guess all the great Cappy dev's have jumped ship
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That's a bit harsh don't you think? The Cappy dev's are some of the best ROM developers for that era of android phones.

lonhanson said:
That's a bit harsh don't you think? The Cappy dev's are some of the best ROM developers for that era of android phones.
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not mention i've seen them pretty active in the galaxy nexus forums... might be because they have different priorities right now? once they figure out the newest phone they'll be able to come back and help us?

If you actually go poke around the Fascinate forum there's one guy who claims he has it running but hasn't offered any sort of proof. I think he's just looking for attention, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

Saving my money for a Galaxy Nexus

no driver said:
If you actually go poke around the Fascinate forum there's one guy who claims he has it running but hasn't offered any sort of proof. I think he's just looking for attention, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
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If he does have it running, it's the SDK release and it will be slow as molasses.

[Q] What happened to development for this phone?

I've been running the same ROM on my phone for the past 4 months which is UNHEARD of for me. I like trying and testing new roms (that actually work) but at this point there just isn't anything new. What happened to all the development?? I used to see a new ROM every week!

This device is a year old now. Development slows near that mark. I imagine more roms when Ics is released.

I dont really see this as a big deal -- so long as anything major gets taken care of...
Liquid gb 3.2 is working great for me, so im happy to stay on this...
Sent from my HTC ThunderBolt

RaFF_MyZZteR said:
I've been running the same ROM on my phone for the past 4 months which is UNHEARD of for me. I like trying and testing new roms (that actually work) but at this point there just isn't anything new. What happened to all the development?? I used to see a new ROM every week!
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Most of them left because people kept pestering them to slave away all day and night
Only half serious, but yeah there are quite a few people that are always asking like this stuff is easy to do. Phone is a year old and people lose interest in putting out new stuff when there's no updates to work off of from HTC and Verizon. That and there was quite a bit of drama involved with a few ROMs that took some of the motivation out of at least one or so developers from bad attitudes by users.
People theme and develop for a few reasons (typically in this order):
1) They own/use the device
2) They like modding and hacking software for fun
3) They like the community they're modding for
When they no longer do #1 (as many have gone to the Nexus or other devices), if they don't have both #2 and #3 going for them, it gets harder to find the motivation to keep on going.
When a major release comes out again like ICS, there will be more development and then it'll eventually trickle off again. That's the way it works, especially now that there are an abundance of android devices on verizon compared to 2-3 years ago when there was basically a handful.
If you want new all the time, then get a new phone. Most preferably the Nexus as it's going to get updates for at least the next 3 or more years. Otherwise, in a year from now, you'll be asking this same question again with any other device most likely.
Honestly I was never a "crack flasher" and never had the interest in trying most ROMs. I've used CM7 for 80% of the past 12 months and never found interest to try anything else.

yareally said:
Most of them left because people kept pestering them to slave away all day and night
Only half serious, but yeah there are quite a few people that are always asking like this stuff is easy to do. Phone is a year old and people lose interest in putting out new stuff when there's no updates to work off of from HTC and Verizon. That and there was quite a bit of drama involved with a few ROMs that took some of the motivation out of at least one or so developers from bad attitudes by users.
People theme and develop for a few reasons (typically in this order):
1) They own/use the device
2) They like modding and hacking software for fun
3) They like the community they're modding for
When they no longer do #1 (as many have gone to the Nexus or other devices), if they don't have both #2 and #3 going for them, it gets harder to find the motivation to keep on going.
When a major release comes out again like ICS, there will be more development and then it'll eventually trickle off again. That's the way it works, especially now that there are an abundance of android devices on verizon compared to 2-3 years ago when there was basically a handful.
If you want new all the time, then get a new phone. Most preferably the Nexus as it's going to get updates for at least the next 3 or more years. Otherwise, in a year from now, you'll be asking this same question again with any other device most likely.
Honestly I was never a "crack flasher" and never had the interest in trying most ROMs. I've used CM7 for 80% of the past 12 months and never found interest to try anything else.
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So does this mean its the end of the Thunderbolt. Its kinda a crying shame. We have had this device now for only a little over a year. That seems way to short to just up and move on to a new device. I cant believe I am saying this, but with the Iphone atleast there is a few years between the release of each new device. Sure they are always updating the software, but atleast your on same hardware. With a android base phone you HAVE to keep dumping out tons of money to keep up with the lastest and greatest. It gets expensive. With that said, which has been a big complaint in the community of technology, we keep buying the new products on the day it comes out. Its a wonder how anything goods come out for the new devices. Which in turn makes the Mods/Devs have to work harder to be able to keep up with the fast paced change of the Android world. It sucks how fast something gets thrown to the wayside.....I Love the Thunderbolt and I do not plan on getting a new phone when my contract ends. (I love being contract free) So Thank you Mods/Devs for the Roms that you have put out, and thank you for working so hard so I can enjoy this phones 5 mins of fame.

imagelost said:
So does this mean its the end of the Thunderbolt. Its kinda a crying shame. We have had this device now for only a little over a year. That seems way to short to just up and move on to a new device.
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The end? I think you tl;dr'ed my post. Development is just in a recession until something worth doing comes out again (ICS). It won't obviously be the same as it was when the device came out, but obviously nothing can ever hit the peak that a new device has in interest no matter what it is.
I also don't see how an iphone will solve your problems. You'll just be mad you can't do anything with your device (which seems to be your problem with Android too, but you won't be able to flash anything on an iphone).

To be completely honest, I sorta had an idea of the answer to my own question before I asked it but thought I'd open it up to other input as well. I am well aware that there hasn't been any new updates or upgrades from HTC or Verizon for our phones so I don't blame the developers for getting bored and moving on. I just wish the development continued as it had started. I had the original Motorola Droid (first generation) and the development on that phone was so strong that I guess I'm just saddened by the lackluster effort for further development.
Either way, big thank you to the developers who have and continue to develop for our phones. Cheers to you guys!
PS. Big, fat donation to whoever develops the first full working ICS ROM for our phones

Nothing but now the world have new phones and the developers work more in the new phones...
Enviado desde mi HTC Thunderbolt usando Tapatalk

yareally said:
The end? I think you tl;dr'ed my post. Development is just in a recession until something worth doing comes out again (ICS). It won't obviously be the same as it was when the device came out, but obviously nothing can ever hit the peak that a new device has in interest no matter what it is.
I also don't see how an iphone will solve your problems. You'll just be mad you can't do anything with your device (which seems to be your problem with Android too, but you won't be able to flash anything on an iphone).
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So have they figured out how to fix the data issues with AOSP roms? That seems to be the biggest thing left to do until ICS comes out.

You can always develop your own roms to get your fix. It's what I've been doing. In fact I'm working on my own 3.5 rom atm.

RaFF_MyZZteR said:
I've been running the same ROM on my phone for the past 4 months which is UNHEARD of for me. I like trying and testing new roms (that actually work) but at this point there just isn't anything new. What happened to all the development?? I used to see a new ROM every week!
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I took my old Thunderbolt out and flashed it with the ThunderStick Full Blown Sense 3.0 ROM because I was bored and it's pretty cool. I liked it enough to set it up for my wife, who's been using a Dinc with CM7 for a long time. She really likes it and the guys at the Verizon store were perplexed by the fact that it looked like a Rezound (Sense) when installing the SIM.

Spam HTC's Facebook. Let them know we want ICS.

http://m.facebook.com/HTC
Facbook.com/HTC
Ok, since HTC won't answer our questions for an ICS Update. Why don't we just constantly ask them on Facebook? I feel that everybody on XDA want ICS. If we get an Offical ICS Kernel. We can have a massive jump on Deving. Proper soucre for 1080p video, fullying working AOSP roms. What else is there to do? Wait? If we stay quite, they'll think we sont care. We need to let them know we want ICS. So I ask of all the XDA Doubleshot users. Just constantly ask HTC for ICS on the Mytouch 4G Slide. Ask a lot, ask 10 times a day. Ask 1000 if you can. If 10 people post 5 times that's 50 post. 50 post HTC will see knowing we want, and need ICS.
I thank those who will do this. Let's help our devs out, and get those AOSP lovers a fully working Rom.

i agree with you altough i don't use facebook.
but anyway the point is that just staying quiet won't do any good to us, we have to make them know we actually want ICS because from the looks of it, they have no intention of updating our phone

I thought it was up to T-mo though not HTC. So would this really do anything?

ICS is T-Mobile's fault, not HTC's. HTC can only release an update if T-Mobile calls for it.
tl;dr: Spam T-Mobile for ICS

both t-mobile and htc are involved in the decision, but the work is done 100% by htc
anyway, i don't think we would get something out of t-mobile but maybe from htc yes.
i would point out that while it's a t-mobile branded phone it still has the HTC logo on the back and wasn't HTC one of the companies that adhered to the Google initiative to keep phones updated for atleast 18 months from release ?
those are the points to work on, hit HTC's pride and *maybe* we could get something back. T-mobile couldn't care less imo

i just asked t mobile on their Facebook page and they said this T-Mobile is committed to enhancing customers’ experience with our devices, including providing upgrades to the latest Android operating system -- Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich). We are actively working with our OEM partners to ensure that a number of eligible T-Mobile devices are upgraded to Android 4.0 in the coming months and will communicate updates as we have additional details to share. ^CL

wiswis said:
i just asked t mobile on their Facebook page and they said this T-Mobile is committed to enhancing customers’ experience with our devices, including providing upgrades to the latest Android operating system -- Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich). We are actively working with our OEM partners to ensure that a number of eligible T-Mobile devices are upgraded to Android 4.0 in the coming months and will communicate updates as we have additional details to share. ^CL
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At least a 1Ghz Processor [X]
More than 512Mb Ram [X]
Atleast than 400Mb of System Mem. [X]
Some basic things needed for ICS. So we are in the ranks of an upgrade. If T-Mobile gives us a ICS update I'll never use another carrier for the rest of my life.
It's Always Sunny in XDA

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At least a 1Ghz Processor [X]
More than 512Mb Ram [X]
Atleast than 400Mb of System Mem. [X]
Some basic things needed for ICS. So we are in the ranks of an upgrade. If T-Mobile gives us a ICS update I'll never use another carrier for the rest of my life.
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don't get too excited. that's just some standard PR response. We should keep going until we get some official and specific information about our phone

Everybody do what I did and ask them to leak us out a ROM.
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Good news? The newest update coming on March 19th (Tomorrow) is a major fix. Making the stock very usable. The same update is coming to the Mytouch 4G, being th last it will get. T-Mobile is still going to update our phone. Since this new update is going to fix all bugs. That only means a OS update can come. So those on stock roms have a nice update coming.
Also we have hope now. Mabey we'll get a leak??
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marc12868 said:
I thought it was up to T-mo though not HTC. So would this really do anything?
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It is handled by T-Mobile. HTC might already be developing an ICS ROM for our phone, but their lips are sealed until they get word from T-Mobile that they are allowed to release it or even announce it. Even then, such an announcement would be done by T-Mobile anyways.
Braccoz said:
both t-mobile and htc are involved in the decision, but the work is done 100% by htc
anyway, i don't think we would get something out of t-mobile but maybe from htc yes.
i would point out that while it's a t-mobile branded phone it still has the HTC logo on the back and wasn't HTC one of the companies that adhered to the Google initiative to keep phones updated for atleast 18 months from release ?
those are the points to work on, hit HTC's pride and *maybe* we could get something back. T-mobile couldn't care less imo
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And same thing with the myTouch 4G. They got updates slower than a pig through molasses. They're still getting one last update after being released for 16 months. It took them forever to get Gingerbread, but they still got it eventually. No need to be so negative. The MT4GS hasn't even been out for a year.
AgentCherryColla said:
Good news? The newest update coming on March 19th (Tomorrow) is a major fix. Making the stock very usable. The same update is coming to the Mytouch 4G, being th last it will get. T-Mobile is still going to update our phone. Since this new update is going to fix all bugs. That only means a OS update can come. So those on stock roms have a nice update coming.
Also we have hope now. Mabey we'll get a leak??
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We'll probably get an ICS ROM, but don't expect it any time soon.

http://www.tmonews.com/2012/03/main...for-t-mobile-mytouch-4g-and-mytouch-4g-slide/

If you look at the update it is the paused mr that messed up the HTC unlocker. But it will fix somethings.
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AgentCherryColla said:
At least a 1Ghz Processor [X]
More than 512Mb Ram [X]
Atleast than 400Mb of System Mem. [X]
Some basic things needed for ICS. So we are in the ranks of an upgrade. If T-Mobile gives us a ICS update I'll never use another carrier for the rest of my life.
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Honestly, that's almost every device since ye olde Nexus One. That doesn't mean a thing. HTC and T-Mobile damn well know our phone can handle anything they throw at it.
Posted on HTC's wall. Although I think emailing HTC and T-Mobile directly will be much more effective. Facebook posts are good for publicity, but no one at either company is actively reading them.
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WOW, ok maybe I was wrong about them replying. Commented back on my wall post about 10 mins later
Hey, XXXX. We're still working on our portfolio to see which devices are suitable for the upgrade. We will have more information in the coming weeks. You can check out our latest note on ICS here: http://bit.ly/yTJiXX.

i will do this since im in love with ics!!!!!!

That's probably helpful, it is true that everything is assumed to be fine unless people say otherwise, I wouldn't prioritize a project I didn't think anyone cared about (from a business standpoint)
I don't have a facebook, and don't intend on getting one, but I know some people who do and can probably talk them into posting an occasional message about it.
Just try to be polite and inquisitive, don't use profanity, and use real words and not internet shorthand ( lol...omg...and other childish crap like that).
You are interacting with a business and in a business sense, the customer-manufacturer relationship is a business one, you're not talking to your friends on your couch.
If you are gonna do it, might as well try to be as successful as possible and being rude, crude and posting hateful or illegible messages will have a negative impact on your campaign. Not saying you are, but just putting it out there for the people who will read through this and act on the thread.
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... If T-Mobile gives us a ICS update I'll never use another carrier for the rest of my life...
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After all the recent back and forth between T-Mobile customer 'service' and myself I am so thoroughly disgusted with T-Mo from a customer standpoint that i'm more then casually running the numbers on the best way to sever our relationship.
I've worked a call center before, i'm always polite and patient over the phone, and AgentCherryColla I see myself in that quoted line - don't ask for much and set a low-bar for the 'i'm a loyal customer' mark... so that as long as they don't rock the boat it's smooth sailing. But...
...given that I still have at least one MORE customer service call ahead of me to continue working out my issues with them and what the last few have been like ... I really hope it doesn't come down to T-Mobile deciding to do something for their customers. In my experience that goes completely against their company philosophy... this is at least what they've taught me from direct interaction.
I think as soon as I can orchestrate it i'll be on simple mobile or someone like that instead (as opposed to 'in addition to').
I've got more faith in tbalden primarily right now, but also anyone else from the open source community that puts time into bringing us ICS from source. What we really need is ICS kernel source from HTC so getting through to HTC is an important step, they can encourage T-Mobile to give the nod a lot more then we can.
Hate to be the squeaky wheel just to get some grease, but HTC customer service is the complete polar opposite of T-Mobile. HTC has done everything possible, above and beyond, every time i've had to interact with them. Stellar company and I highly recommend them to everyone I meet...and i'm done paying them so they already got THEIR money, yet still do their best to treat me well and help me out. I wish more companies were like that, they're getting harder and harder to find.
Definitely not trying to be negative, and all we need is HTC ICS kernel source for the doubleshot, Google ICS source gets us the rest - but we'll never see any ICS kernel source from HTC without an ICS ROM so it looks like we need to buy the whole pie just to get the slice we want.
Good job with the letter campaign, if everyone keeps it clean and professional I think it'll help!