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I know its probable already been asked but for the life of me i could not find anything. So i rooted my phone now i have to send it in for a replacment. What should i do so t-mobile cant tell i rooted.Thanks and sorry if its a repost.
Well, afaik the rooting process is ONLY software based, as is all of the rest of the process. Ergo it shouldnt have been an illegal "mod" that you've made, and ergo you should be fine, as long as you havnt done any hardware modifications
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I know its probable already been asked but for the life of me i could not find anything. So i rooted my phone now i have to send it in for a replacment. What should i do so t-mobile cant tell i rooted.Thanks and sorry if its a repost.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=492712
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=491350
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=491265
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=489097
It does void your warranty because you are altering your phone in a way that T-mobile didn't intend. If you want to revert it back to normal, flash the original bootloader and RC29. You should be fine with that.
One you flash to RC29 doesnt it take care of everything or do you still need to do more, before you send it back.
dont worry
I exchanged mine under the 14 vday buyers remourse cause the bt was shot, I had it 100% rooted hard SPL everything even a theme, all I did is wipe the theme, then sent it back tith jf's RC33 and the robots on skateboards Hard SPL..
To top it off I also forgot to return, the headset since it was a cool 2 piece, tho i may have sent back a one piece, can't recall and I forgot the charger(mains) and the lil G1 cozy also.
this was like a month ago, did want the earphones, but just forgot the rest since if you dont have it back to Tmob by 3 days they kill 5 pupies in your name and charge you 500$ but I have yet to hear about any of the missing items or the hacked up firmie, I bet they dont look to close at them, im sure wiping all the mem and starting over is one of the first steps in the refurb process....
If the T-mobsters knock on my door I'll post it up, but Im not holding my breath...
dont worry about getting it back to stock, I wouldn't/didn't
bhang
i played stupid and asked about rooting the phone to several t-mo customer service people and they all said that rooting the phone is just basically changing the way the phone handles certain things, granted i would go back to stock firmware anyway but they have told me several times that if i were to root my phone there would be no issue with it, and i even met an instore rep who rooted his and was using my theme
My friend gave me a HTC Kaiser. He tried to upgrade it (i do not kdow details), everything looked fine, the process turned to 100% and he was happy that it will end with success, but that not happened. Kaiser turned off and now is dead, totally dead - i can not get to bootloader, no LED flashes... But he assured me that everything was 100% working before this flash.
What I can do? I totally have no idea. Thank you
he probably flashed it with a rom that wasnt designed for your kaiser post what rom he tried to upgrade with on here and then maybe someone will be able to help.
If it wasnt a kaiser rom, then he has bricked it and all you can do is sell it for spares
I have sent him an email where I ask which ROM it was. What i already know, that it was "upgrade" (as he said, so maybe to 6.1??) from HTC.com.
I hope he will answer asap with details about ROM.
Now he answered, that it was only official upgrade to wm 6.1 from htc.com which is available to download
but was it an official htc device or a rebranded device i.e. o2 stellar? As i am sure that they wont like being flashed with a rom that is not specifically designed for them
It is Htc Kaiser, not a branded version...
I have no clue what's wrong... why it is not working...
Well i Would try getting another battery and see if that makes it spring into life. If not then maybe you should see if your friend is lying about what he actually flashed as i have neve heard of anybody bricking a htc phone with a stock rom.
when I try to recharge it, it goes a little warm (battery) after some time - as is normal on every device. But this doesn't mean anything.
I'll try another battery, as you've said and we'll see...
Or I will try to send it in service... I hope it will not be expensive... i have no idea about prices...
And I hope my friend is not lying...
Dragokazov said:
when I try to recharge it, it goes a little warm (battery) after some time - as is normal on every device. But this doesn't mean anything.
I'll try another battery, as you've said and we'll see...
Or I will try to send it in service... I hope it will not be expensive... i have no idea about prices...
And I hope my friend is not lying...
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I doubt it's the battery, and if your friend says he flashed an official htc rom and now bricked...sounds like he was flashing different roms without hard spl or a rom not designated for kaiser or both and trying to get some easy money from you; official roms don't brick. If you can't even get into bootloader to flash a fix; I'd suggest your friend is a **** for selling you a brick n get your money back
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I doubt it's the battery, and if your friend says he flashed an official htc rom and now bricked...sounds like he was flashing different roms without hard spl or a rom not designated for kaiser or both and trying to get some easy money from you; official roms don't brick. If you can't even get into bootloader to flash a fix; I'd suggest your friend is a **** for selling you a brick n get your money back
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That's bad if he lied me... grr i am stupid that i bought it...
that's bad...
And what about JTAG? What is it and is it applicable to HTC Kaiser/TyTN II?
Thanks
does any one have an idea about JTAG for kaiser
I think i bricked theHTC fuze that i bought yesterday I tried to do the Hard SPL but i was getting an error message, error 244 invalid model ID so i used a program to change the .nbh (a radio file) file so it bypassed the error message (by changing DIAM***** to RAPH*****, since my phone is raphael). I even got a message that the process was successfully finished but it turned out not to be true because the screen went black and now i cant turn it on, and i cant even get it into the bootloader mode. If i could at least get it into to tricolor screen i would be able to flash back the original radio and that would solve the problem because ive already done it a few times. Please let me know if there is a chance to get it fixed, even i had to send it to a professional but as long as it could be fixed, im really desperate. Thank you
brick, htc fuze, diamond, raphael, hardspl
You only get that error when your trying to flash the wrong device... Did you use the file "Raphael_CDMA_HSPL_037.zip" to unlock..?? Sound's to me like you used the Diamond Unlocker... Shouldn't be that hard to fix, hold the volume down button, power button, and insert stylus into the hole on the bottom to soft reset to try and open up BL screen... LMK if that works...
Why didn't you just follow the instructions for flashing? You aren't even security unlocked, so why were you trying to flash a diamond radio? That makes no sense at all. Also, if you are security unlocked, you need to get diamond radios from the raphael forum, because they're patched to flash onto raphaels. It sounds like you got yours from the diamond forum, which is the wrong way to go (especially if it's a cdma radio-that would kill your phone for sure). Did hard spl work? If not, why on earth did you forge ahead? YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL YOU FLASH HARD SPL!!!!!
Try pulling the battery for a while, the see if it will start up. It's hard to tell what you did, but since you went down such a wrong path, I wouldn't be surprised if the phone is a giant brick.
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by changing DIAM***** to RAPH*****
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this should've been clue #1. If you have to change it because of the device ID, it's the wrong thing to flash. The Diamond and Raph look alike on the front, but are almost totally incompatible ROM-wise.,
I even got a message that the process was successfully finished but it turned out not to be true because the screen went black and now i cant turn it on
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You are wrong there, it did flash successfully. The tools worked EXACTLY as they were designed. It's not the tools fault
Please let me know if there is a chance to get it fixed, even i had to send it to a professional but as long as it could be fixed, im really desperate. Thank you
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You might contact olipro, I hear he's got the "magic touch" with devices. No guarantees. I've heard that it's almost impossible to unbrick a device like this after an incorrect/bad radio flash.
I really hope it works out for you. Read dude, the stickies are everywhere for your benefit. Best of luck to you.
brick, htc fuze, diamond, raphael, hardspl
I run into things like this DAILY. Been a service rep for over 30 years. If people would ONLY follow the instructions, I'd have less follow up work to do.
Unfortunately they make these phones too easy to hack (good for us) but sometimes noobs make it hard for the rest of us.
lol
This is what happens when you don't follow directions, don't read enough, and are monkeying with things you obviously shouldn't be monkeying with.
When you got the device ID error, you should have stopped right there and thought "gee, maybe I should go over these instructions again and see what I did wrong" instead of trying to force a radio that will never work on your device.
Hope you can get it in to bootloader, otherwise enjoy your shiny new brick.
Well, hope you get it solved and otherwise you learned a lesson in a very expensive way I'm afraid...
Farmer Ted said:
Why didn't you just follow the instructions for flashing? You aren't even security unlocked, so why were you trying to flash a diamond radio? That makes no sense at all. Also, if you are security unlocked, you need to get diamond radios from the raphael forum, because they're patched to flash onto raphaels. It sounds like you got yours from the diamond forum, which is the wrong way to go (especially if it's a cdma radio-that would kill your phone for sure). Did hard spl work? If not, why on earth did you forge ahead? YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL YOU FLASH HARD SPL!!!!!
Try pulling the battery for a while, the see if it will start up. It's hard to tell what you did, but since you went down such a wrong path, I wouldn't be surprised if the phone is a giant brick.
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I did hard SPL first with 1.90OliNex (because the one that was in the unlocking package originally didnt work beacuse of the invalid model ID message) and i thought thats what security unlocked the phone and then i tried to put a costume radio that would allow me to unlock the phone but the radio wouldnt flash. So i went back to the SPL from the unlocking package (HARD SPL 1.34) and i changed the .nbh file from DIAM***** to RAPH***** and then it bricked... The reason i did this is beacuse of the following link :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-427305.html
I just hope something can still be done otherwise this is just a good warning for all others not to do this. Thank you for the replies
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You only get that error when your trying to flash the wrong device... Did you use the file "Raphael_CDMA_HSPL_037.zip" to unlock..?? Sound's to me like you used the Diamond Unlocker... Shouldn't be that hard to fix, hold the volume down button, power button, and insert stylus into the hole on the bottom to soft reset to try and open up BL screen... LMK if that works...
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No I used a gsm unlocker, HARD SPL 1.34... There is a more detailed explanation in the post above
Hard spl 1.34 is either cdma or diamond gsm-I don't know which. I do know that it will brick a gsm touch pro. Flashing the wrong hard spl is the guaranteed way to kill a phone. If you actually flashed it, the phone is dead. Try pulling the battery for a day.
You need to run the gsm raphael unlocker to security unlock your phone. You need to pay for it, too. Hard spl doesn't security unlock your phone-it only CID unlocks it.
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Hard spl 1.34 is either cdma or diamond gsm-I don't know which. I do know that it will brick a gsm touch pro. Flashing the wrong hard spl is the guaranteed way to kill a phone. If you actually flashed it, the phone is dead. Try pulling the battery for a day.
You need to run the gsm raphael unlocker to security unlock your phone. You need to pay for it, too. Hard spl doesn't security unlock your phone-it only CID unlocks it.
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I used the GSM one. Ok i just pulled out the battery and hopefully the phone allows to get it into the bootloader...
Worst case scenario, smash it and pay $100 for ur insured replacement... That is, if you have insurance...
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Worst case scenario, smash it and pay $100 for ur insured replacement... That is, if you have insurance...
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Hahahaha !
Good one !
But dude no offense but u deserve a black shiny 600$ brick because YOU DIDN'T FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS ! THEY ARE THERE TO BE FOLLOWED UNLESS AND UNTIL YOU ARE SO RICH THAT YOU CAN WASTE 600$ OR YOU ARE A SUPER CHEF AT XDA AND ARE SURE OF WHAT YOU ARE DOING !
Anyways Best of luck hope you can unbrick it !
otherwise smash it
Bye.
LoL yeah a $600 paper weight may also come in handy..?? Or like previously stated, take your anger out on it for not doing it right the first time lol...
I now this might be a little too late to answer,but i want to give my two cents to this brick posts. Maybe someone will need it. This is for anyone that might be where I was for over 2 weeks. I though my Fuze/ Raphael / touch pro was history. My phone will get into restart loops when ever he wanted. It was very anoying. After replacing every possible software from Radio, Hard Spl, different rooms and even start up splashes, and almost getting "ORD" in the process. I finally took my phone apart, since there was no warranty. Once open I saw that the reset bottom inside was too close to the rubber reset bottom from outside. Guess what ?? That as all it was..... Good luck to all. : )
I've been flashing different roms for awhile, and decided to go from OpenEclair to one of the "new" ones that requires the new SPL and radio. Went fine. No problem. Used the new rom for about a week, but really got screwed by a massive bug I found in it today, so I wanted to go back to my OE nandroid backup.
I went to reflash to my original SPL. It was a ZIP, so I treated it like a ROM and used AmonRa's recovery to flash it. Said it went fine. Rebooted, expecting to get back into fastboot and flash my radio.
I can't get into fastboot. All it does is show Rogers then HTC Magic in a boot loop. ADB devices shows nothing, fastboot devices shows nothing. Back and Power doesn't work. Home back and power doesn't work. Vol down doesn't work.
Am I as bricked as I think I am?
Yes, it sounds bricked. The proper method to go from 6.x --> 3.x radios and matching SPL is to use fastboot. You have to flash radio and SPLs in matching pairs, you can only use the update.zip format for SPL when it already matches your radio (ie. 1.33.2005 ---> 1.33.2010 w/ the 3.22.20.17 radio).
I believe you should normally flash radios first as well. If you don't get it fixed id like to buy it, need parts. Anyways, most the time when you can't get into fastboot or anything else, it is bricked. Best bet is to get warranty if you still have it. Unfortunately the new phones won't be rootable yet
its best to follow guides when downgrading/upgrading spl/radio (cursordroids for example) when not knowing completely what your doing.. sorry my friend.. sounds like your phone is now a boat anchor
i flashed a 1.33.2010 SPL with a 3.?? radio and now all i get is the logo screen no fast boot, i can enter debug mode (action button) but nothing else sounds like its bricked, but hey its been fun
to be honest i was in this situation last week after leaving my phone off for a hour fastboot was working
oh this is sounding more promising, see what happens when i get home, i see there have been a few people about that have been in the same situation and got out of it so fingers crossed
unfortunantly none of the above worked, wow after 10 years of flashing **** i finally killed something !!.... mind you i still have to make up the serial cable this weekend and see if i can fix it like that
Oh well, you guys should know better ... radio/spl/recovery upgrade/downgrade is a child play, if you do it with fastboot and in the correct order (radio - spl - recovery).
I just hope you can get your Magic back to life.
yeah i was a little distracted at the time, never mind, im going to boot into the radio bootloader and see if i can fix it this weekend, fingers crossed
ruimoura said:
Oh well, you guys should know better ... radio/spl/recovery upgrade/downgrade is a child play, if you do it with fastboot and in the correct order (radio - spl - recovery).
I just hope you can get your Magic back to life.
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i have flashed not in that order and never bricked and also i have flash different things like radios in different orders and no brick
Just a (long) update on trying to get the phone repaired...
First thanks to bcrook, KAwAtA and digitaljeff for the prompt replies at confirming my screw up.
Ruimoura, why even post? Nothing helpful, and not even commiserating. "Oh well, you guys should know better ...". I hope someone is there when you make a mistake to rub it in.
Anyway...
This was a Rogers Magic used in the states on AT&T.
Heres what happened if anyone is interested:
I searched the forums and tried every trick I could find, including the gold card method; no luck. To be honest, I'm not sure I did the gold card right, but I tried my best. I even looked into the jtag idea, but it seems like more work then its worth to me, and no one seems to have been successful with it yet.
I then called HTC to find out what a repair would cost. HTC said they don't have that phone in their parts list and can't service it because it is a Rogers phone and they don't work with Rogers. They told me I would have to call Rogers for service.
Called Rogers and explained the situation (carefully; blaming the 911 update ). Rogers lectured me on how dare I take their phone off their network, and that they have no interest in helping me at all and "contacting HTC is easy. Whats wrong with you?". I explained that I contacted HTC and they said to contact Rogers. They said (after some fighting) call this number and then gave me the same number HTC has on their website.
Called HTC again and explained the situation. After checking their parts database, the person I was talking to this time confirmed what the person I previously talked to said. HTC doesn't service the Rogers Magic but he felt, like I, that was kinda crazy and called the repair location directly to confirm. After a bit of time on hold, he came back and said that Rogers phones are serviced through a place called FutureTel in canada, and gave me their contact number.
I called FutureTel and it was a very short conversation. "What store are you calling from?" I Explained I wasn't calling from a store and why I was calling. "We only work with Rogers directly. We won't support you." and they hung up.
I have to say, both times I called HTC the people I talked to were incredibly polite and honestly seemed like they wanted to help. Rogers and FutureTel seemed like they truly resented having to pick up the phone. Maybe its a cultural thing I'm not aware of, but it honestly seemed, from the first word, that they hated talking to me.
So, as near as I can tell, you can't even pay someone to fix a Rogers HTC Magic.
At this point I'm back suffering on my old WinMo phone and desperately hoping that the rumored March 23 release date for the Verizon Nexus One is legitimate since T-Mobile isn't really an option.
So I decided to sell my Fuze to one of those online resellers. I flashed back to stock ROM and radio, both no problem. And to be sure, I decided to flash back to the original Hard SPL from my sd card. But I get an error and I can't get out of the tricolor screen and says upgrade ROM error, please retry.
I've tried soft reset, hard reset, taking out the battery. Nothing seems to work. So like me to go one step too far and screw up. I tried replacing the RAPHIMG.nbh file, but it says it is write protected. I can't even reformat the sdcard because it is write protected and I couldn't figure out how to un-write protect it.
I know everyone is going bonkers over WP7. But if anyone can find the time to tell me how to fix this, I would appreciate it.
Thanks in advance.
sad... no replies here to help you dr. jim. glad your phone started working again. i need to look into selling the two extra fuzes i have
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norcal colby said:
sad... no replies here to help you dr. jim. glad your phone started working again. i need to look into selling the two extra fuzes i have
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Try ibuyphones.com. They say the Fuze is worth $80, though we'll see what they actually pay me for it.
I was able to reflash the stock ROM and all is well now.
Case closed.