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"I CAN'T GET TO MY PHONE BEFORE IT GOES TO VOICEMAIL!" Sound familiar?
This thread is to discuss and discover/provide work-arounds (and potentally solutions) for the lag time between the initial ring from a caller and the incoming notifications on the android phone. Since there are other ways to make it possible to answer a call before it gets forwarded, other perspectives/ideas/questions/discussion are welcome here as well.
(Since I started the griping here I figure I better follow up.)
After a day or so of being opened, there are already several things we can do to help our phones ring faster posted in this thread. If something is confusing to you, please ask. If you click on the username of a post, you have the option to send a personal message. Unless you are darn sure other people have your question, please use this option. If it turns out your question would better suit this or any thread, you can paste your PM into the thread at any time.
I have to say this so I can rail on people: no matter how many Opening Posts say READ, READ, READ, the people who consistently don't read the thread haven't read the Opening Post, either. Don't be one of those people. The rest of us resent you for cluttering the thread, consequently creating even more clutter because there's too much crap for other people to read. We think you are being ignorant and selfish. This entire forum is public information; try to keep in mind your potential future boss might be checking this out to see how useful you might be in their workplace. So this, though probably not read by its intended audience, reserves for me the right to be even b****ier
In case anybody is inclined to test it, I already discovered that the phone doesn't ring when it's powered down....
The phone Prioritizer, combined with using ogg format, seems to do the best or me: I can't find it anywhere else. If I've posted this wrongly, please holler.
There was discussion going into the cupcake build about the latency increasing. I can't speculate on the cause of the latency, but it seems to have been going from the first OEM builds.
Delay in phone ring
Delayed phone ring (and even more delayed screen activation and caller ID) on incoming calls. Speaking for myself, callers hear a couple of rings before my ringtone starts to play. And there is another couple of seconds of delay beyond that before the screen lights up and the caller ID comes on.
I have been having this problem for the past, oh, ten or twenty updates. I have tried MANY things to fix it. If you hadn't already said that you always reinstall the radio when you flash, I was going to try that next in my quest for a solution. This ringtone delay problem is currently my number one irritation with my G1, and is at the TOP of my list of issues that I hope Cyanogen will address and conquer.
I have tried "renice -20" on the phone program, with no improvement. I have tried moving ringtones2SD from fat32, with no improvement. I have tried reformating all my custom ringtones as OGG, with no improvement. I have tried installing and uninstalling a variety of programs, with no improvement.
I am certain that Janis and I are not the only people with this problem. I have seen it mentioned by a lot of people in a variety of threads. I am glad to see a specific thread about this particular topicl If anyone has figured out a solution, please speak up. If no one has, perhaps reports from enough people will serve to convince developers to look into it more deeply. Anyone else have feedback?
I myself am curious to kno if there is any way to work on this. I have been a happy Rom switcher and each Rom has always given me 2 ring delays. The way I worked mine to get close to 1 ring is to constantly use a task killing APK, which I may add is tedious, and making sure I'm clocked 245min 584max
After I moved my ringtones from sdcard/audio/ringtones to sdcard/media/audio/ringtones a prescribed by Cyanogen when he originally took all the ringtones out, I had to re-pick my ringtone, as I would expect.
The odd thing is I also have to do it when I add (a) ringtone(s) to the folder or delete one or more. Can anyone shed any light for me on how the system/phone app references ringtones? Why would it lose a ringtone to reference just becuase I added one to the folder it's in?
How to test, or one way to do it
I use the home phone or skype, that way I can hear how many rings are actually happening for myself, count actual seconds (ear to the phone, eye on the clock), and I can see what order things happen. No one else,except you guys, has to bear with my hare-brained methods, either.
The last time I tested, the ring actually started before the caller ID popped up, but that was a first for me. Nothing happened until about the end of the second ring from the home phone.
Now I'm running Compcache 32mb, Linux partition swap 128mb, CPU 528/245.
Mines takes about a good 2 to 3 rings on the other side before my phones starts to even vibrate. Itfirst vibrates and then plays the ringtone.
Anyone remember before cupcake, when you got a call, even the call button wouldn't accept the call. Thankfully that's fixed but this still hasn't been fixed.
Mines takes about a good 2 to 3 rings on the other side before my phones starts to even vibrate. Itfirst vibrates and then plays the ringtone.
Anyone remember before cupcake, when you got a call, even the call button wouldn't accept the call. Thankfully that's fixed but this still hasn't been fixed.
I don't think you will get rid of the 2 rings on the other end before the phone rings. That is probably just the network finding your phone. However, I have had issues with my phone vibrating 2 or 3 times before the ringtone would start playing. I turned off vibrate and it helped. Then I turned it back on and disabled Missed Call. Now there is barely one vibrate before the ringtone starts playing. I'm turning off Missed call until they have an update for it.
I also found that the battery status widget causes a huge delay if you have it set to update as soon as it changes. It checks everytime the phone comes on and that slows things way down. I set it to update every 60 seconds and it still had some delay but not as much.
bout time
glad 2 see its not just me, i almost missed out on a job cause my phone will 'pause' so long it goes to voice mail b4 i can answer. seems like the issue comes and goes, but when its bad, its horrible, 1st it will vibrate for 2-5 sec b4 it rings , then its about 3 sec b4 the id info displays and when im lucky the call button wont react for like 4 or 5 pushes. sum times the phone app force closes, which means 15-30 sec wait while it reacquires the network and if it force closes the call doesnt show up in the call log.
iv had this issue with all the rom's and yes i reload the radio about 2 times a week, but even the stock 1.5 gives me the same issue
ok enough venting, any dev's that have might have an alpha or beta fix im willing to test!
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glad 2 see its not just me, i almost missed out on a job cause my phone will 'pause' so long it goes to voice mail b4 i can answer. seems like the issue comes and goes, but when its bad, its horrible, 1st it will vibrate for 2-5 sec b4 it rings , then its about 3 sec b4 the id info displays and when im lucky the call button wont react for like 4 or 5 pushes. sum times the phone app force closes, which means 15-30 sec wait while it reacquires the network and if it force closes the call doesnt show up in the call log.
iv had this issue with all the rom's and yes i reload the radio about 2 times a week, but even the stock 1.5 gives me the same issue
ok enough venting, any dev's that have might have an alpha or beta fix im willing to test!
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This isn't a ROM problem, it is a phone resources problem. There is something dragging your phone down. It might be different for each one of us having issues.
Ditching userinint.sh
I rm'ed user.conf and userinit.sh to use Cyanogen's default compcache and default CPU scaling. I re-downloaded Swapper and set up to use my 128mb (overkill) linux partition.
I got lights & vibrate at the end of the first ring, I got caller ID and ring just about halfway into the second ring.
Using the attached user.conf I didn't get ring or caller ID until the end of the second ring, sometimes after.
So I installed missed call (donation) and maxed it out. No change. Still getting first response at the end of the first ring, and ring and caller ID about 1/2 way into the second ring.
Maxed out my CPU at 528/528 with SetCPU. Got about .1 of a second advance. It starts to ring and gave me caller ID about 1/4-1/3 of the way into the second ring. Hard to tell, but a bit earlier than 1/2. The second and third time I tried it, it wasn't as fast. Caller ID came up just barely into the 2nd ring, but ring didn't start until the end.
I think the first ring is network time. For the duration of it, I'm guessing, the call isn't at my G1 yet. This sucks.
I think the phone app is set to vibrate and light the phone first, and leaves time for this to happen. It may be because it's the fastest way to alert the user, since looking for ringtone, handling it and sending it can (doesn't always) take some time, it just uses the reliable method and then triggers the less reliable, already slower ring process.
So maybe Cyanogen, or anyone who's familiar with it, can see if this ring vs. vibrate lag can be eliminated. I'd rather have the phone look for a ring first.
But, if you need to get to calls that quickly, set it to vibrate for now?
I downloaded the ogg ring package from the custom userinit thread. Trying that next.
This doesn't contribute anything to the thread at all (except maybe encouragement) but I'm glad someone is bringing this annoying "feature" up for public discussion.
I keep myself updated with CM and kspec oreo as a theme. As it is right now, I get one ring and the call goes to voicemail. The caller ID display actually lights up after the call has been forwarded. Hope the culprit (if there is just one) is found soon.
There has been a parameter on some of my previous phones called slot index. It was available through a keypad menu, it set how often the phone polled the tower. It sped up the ring responce dramatically.
Tried the ogg files, woohoo!
I've got my CPU set to 528/384 with SetCPU, Linux partition swap 128mb with Swapper (I can set them on the fly without rebooting), and used the ogg files in media/audio/ringtones, and I get ring and caller ID at or before the beginning of the second ring, a split second after the vibrate started. I tried messing with CPU speeds, and it does seem to make a difference as to when the ring actually sounds. I'd say about 1/2 a ring between 245 idle and 528 idle with 528 max for both.
I also have my frequency scaling at 16. So I think that means if 16% of my CPU power is being used, it hops it up from min to max. OK, maybe not 16%, I don't know how the numbers translate, but 16 is low, so I'm running at 528 when a squirrel farts outside.
I have BatteryLife and Missed Call enabled.
So there's the pause after the first ring to deal with, but I really don't think it's the phone after this. maybe we need to join forces and barrage T-mobile with complaints. I mean, why have the ringing on the calling end start if the network isn't connected?
Well, at least we won't ever have to worry about appearing too desperate.
2 or 3 bars, so my signal isn't that great. I'm in the suburbs (not that I love it, but it's where I am).
I'd be very curious to find out if others who have their CPUs running high and are using ogg files are getting a different response. I'm also going to try it in different locations.
I am going to suggest to Cyanogen to include the ogg fles as part of his add-on collection.
Face of Ring
I think I may uninstall this, even though I love it. It bumped the ring to after the caller ID. Caller ID still popped up during the pause after the first ring, but the ring and vibrate didn't happen until mid 2nd ring.
(I'm using rings to measure because 1. it's easier 2. the rings/pauses are shorter than a second 3. in large part it's the caller experience we're concerned about. I don't have a stellar chronometer handy, either.)
Well, thanks for starting this thread, Janis. It's a common complaint across all builds. I've grudgingly resorted to calling my phone after every reboot, just to try to keep the ringtone and I'm guessing Phone.apk?? in memory for as long as it will stay in there. That definitely helps for awhile. I know we're trying to make these phones more into computers, but they're still phones and as such calling and communications should be the main priority. I've converted to .ogg, however they are larger files than the .mp3's I converted from. Maybe I should have used a smaller bitrate. Anyhow, it doesn't seem to make much of a difference. I've tried placing them in /sdcard/media/audio/* and /system/sd/media/audio/*. Does not seem to make much of a difference.
I want a hardware hack to increase the RAM...I hate the trade off we're facing. Losing physical keyboard to obtain greater memory. Or make a "Dream plus" with more RAM. I'd even be happy with just a slight increase in internal storage or none at all and more RAM. The devs here have done wonders with the hardware provided, and the implementation of apps to sd has really made this seemingly poor thought out device (in areas), one of the best. I remember, before I was brave enough to attempt apps to sd, having to decide which app to uninstall, just to make room for one I might want more. Seems like ages ago. While I'm reminiscing, I'd like to give a retro shout-out to Lucid and MarcusMaximus who were pioneers in this area and others.
Sorry, about the tangent...but we've made great strides on the computer end of this device...let's regress, so to speak, and make the phone the primary function, hopefully without backsliding on progress we've made on our phones as a mobile computing device.
EDIT: I've also uninstalled "AutoLock" for this reason, because I'd read somewhere that this may be the culprit...I may have seen positive results, or possibly just placebo.
I have the app "Caller Lookup" installed and have noticed tha that app comes up before caller id and or the ringtone. Its there after 1 or 2 vibrate pulses.
make sure T-mobile, or whomever, has your time-before-forwarding maxed
My poor 74-year-old mom was having a heckuva time getting to her phone in time. As per the instructions from a Tmobile service rep, we punched a # and some digits and got a 65 second ring time. This was a year ago or so. I was told that same week that if my OS on my WinMo phone couldn't do it, there was no way they could (there's a way to set it in WinMo), which was BS.
I know it takes network time/space/bandwidth to let it ring, and it's not paid time. I wonder, not to be a rabble rouser (heh), if we kept calling them, maybe hundreds of us if we could get it going, and made them spend more money on customer service than that bandwidth, if they'd bump that.
Anyone?
Hi,
I've been several days with that "issue", and I'm not finding any proper answer..so, here we go:
It's simple. I don't like to pull out my phone to skip next track, or skip next recorded FM station, using wired headphones, of course. Is there any hack (or app, or homebrew app) to achieve this?
Thank you.
PS: I know Samsung phones can "doubletap" to skip song, but I love HTC
Sorry, could you explain what you're actually trying to do? I get what you don't like (pulling out the phone) but not what you're asking for, app-wise. "Some way to switch tracks while the phone is in my pocket" is a little bit vague.
Hi,
I'll try to explain myself. If you're listening music, and you wan't to skip to next song, usual procedure is to tap Volume Button, and tap in screen the icon "next song". But, in order to do that, you have to pull out your phone of your pocket.
If you make skips very often, it's very annoying. In my older Android, if I press twice VolUp in wired headset (which I have for my HTC), it skips to next song. That's what I need. I don't have to pull out my phone, and tap in the screen.
I want that behaviour also to FM radio, to skip between stations.
In Samsung Focus/Omnia (WP7 phones), things work like that.
So, I can see a few options ahead:
- An app/hombrew app/registry tweak to change the behaviour of the buttons in my wired headphone, so when I click twice, it skips next song/FM station
- An external FM radio app and/or music player with that option: click twice and skip song
If none of the above is possible, I'm thinking of developing one, but I'll like to know if it's feasible (I'm not much in app paradigm in WP7, maybe it's impossible to circunvent button behaviour).
I think it's all.
Thank you very much for your time.
Ignacio Siles.
Just click twice and it will work.
Also you can click triple and seek to the begining of track.
Well, It doesn't work to me...
If I click Play/pause wired headphone button, the song stop/resume twice, but I can't get to next song.
And if I click VolUp wired headphone button, I can only raise volume.
I'm testing WP7 in a HTC HD2 Twilight ROM 7.008, before buying an actual WP7 phone.
So, does it work like you said in HTC HD7? Which build?
Thank you.
Ignacio Siles.
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Just click twice and it will work.
Also you can click triple and seek to the begining of track.
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are u sure?? i also have the hd7 and this thing doesn't work on mine
Works on my Optimus 7 with 2 types of headphones.
Yes. I've read that works with LG and Samsung phones, but no luck with HTC.
Please, can you confirm that double click can change from one FM preset to another?
Maybe HTC it's not the best choice with WP7...
What do you think about my ideas? App/hack/registry tweak..maybe flash different ROM, from Samsung or LG
Works on my HTC hd2
@chorl:
HTC has the best homebrew currently, although Samsung isn't far behind and is catching up. HTC also includes some neat "functional" apps, like Hidden WiFi and Sound Enhancer. However, if this feature is a big deal for you, it might be better to go with a different OEM. Alternatively, it might be coming in an update.
Flashing a ROM from a different OEM will NOT work. ROMs include drivers, and given the hardware differences between devices, you'd be very lucky to even get it to boot, let alone work right.
fabicio said:
Works on my HTC hd2
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Fabicio, how could you achieve that? Which ROM / build for your HTC HD are you using?
Thank you!
GoodDayToDie said:
@chorl:
HTC has the best homebrew currently, although Samsung isn't far behind and is catching up. HTC also includes some neat "functional" apps, like Hidden WiFi and Sound Enhancer. However, if this feature is a big deal for you, it might be better to go with a different OEM. Alternatively, it might be coming in an update.
Flashing a ROM from a different OEM will NOT work. ROMs include drivers, and given the hardware differences between devices, you'd be very lucky to even get it to boot, let alone work right.
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Yes, indeed. I know the risks about find different ROM, but...it's so frustrating...
Well, I think Samsung it's a good OEM, but you know about Mango update issues...I'll try to improve this a little further..
Thank you GoodDayToDie.
I've read on other forum info about Samsung headphone hardware related to the capability for "double click".
Maybe same headphones with HTC hardware may work properly...
Would be nice if someone can take the test
Feature 1:
Lockscreen widget for music player lost the "Previous" button. I can skip a song, but I have to unlock the phone and navigate to the now playing screen to restart a track or go back to a previous one.
This was available in 4.4.4. It's a bit annoying, specially when you're driving.
Feature 2:
This might actually be a bug...
While playing music, incoming messages/call notifications do not play. The music merely lowers in volume. Again, while driving, I might not notice the 1 one second drop in music volume for a message, and sometimes I even miss a call.
On another note, I believe feature wise, Kitkat was the best(pratical and feature wise) rom we had. Had a few non Omni-related issues with Lollipop, most of them minor but still annoying.
Lockscreen is one for example. The default, unprotected Lollipop lockscreen is too easy to unlock. I found myself running out of money a few times because firefox was accidentally launched while the phone was in my pocket. Or sometimes the phone app calling random people.
[AltaiR] said:
Feature 1:
Lockscreen widget for music player lost the "Previous" button. I can skip a song, but I have to unlock the phone and navigate to the now playing screen to restart a track or go back to a previous one.
This was available in 4.4.4. It's a bit annoying, specially when you're driving.
Feature 2:
This might actually be a bug...
While playing music, incoming messages/call notifications do not play. The music merely lowers in volume. Again, while driving, I might not notice the 1 one second drop in music volume for a message, and sometimes I even miss a call.
On another note, I believe feature wise, Kitkat was the best(pratical and feature wise) rom we had. Had a few non Omni-related issues with Lollipop, most of them minor but still annoying.
Lockscreen is one for example. The default, unprotected Lollipop lockscreen is too easy to unlock. I found myself running out of money a few times because firefox was accidentally launched while the phone was in my pocket. Or sometimes the phone app calling random people.
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2 sounds like it might be a bug, and it might be device-specific - you don't state which device you have.
It's not something I'd notice in my daily routine since I have an XM receiver in my car.
Entropy512 said:
2 sounds like it might be a bug, and it might be device-specific - you don't state which device you have.
It's not something I'd notice in my daily routine since I have an XM receiver in my car.
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Thought so too...guess I'd best report it in the device specific thread.
Own a Nexus 5, as mentioned in my sig. I guess these days sigs are so full of meaningless stuff that we don't really bother checking em out anymore. Iirc, there was a guide somewhere teaching how to make a useful one.
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Thought so too...guess I'd best report it in the device specific thread.
Own a Nexus 5, as mentioned in my sig. I guess these days sigs are so full of meaningless stuff that we don't really bother checking em out anymore. Iirc, there was a guide somewhere teaching how to make a useful one.
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I stopped including my devices in my sig ages ago because it was frequently inaccurate/out-of-date and I always assume someone else's sig is wrong/don't even look at it for that reason.
Does it happen on stock? I'm not sure if this is a 5.x thing in general, a device-specific bug, or an Omni bug due to some of @maxwen 's volume control tweaks . I won't be able to experiment with it until I get back from vacation in mid-late September.
am having an issue with the apps lock screen. I either can not find, or the functionality to manipulate the playback controls does not exist without taking it completely out of lock mode.
I think the app is wonderful but I think this is a major oversight. I saw posts about this same issue in 2014 and I guess you decided not to do it. The controls you have are so unique and helpful that if you could make it easier to manipulate for the those who are on the go most of the time listening to music etc. I do not want to get hit by a bus trying to mess around with the volume\shuffle options\dealing with other app windows on my phone. I hope there is something planned as far as a change may go.
One quick issue. The player pauses for a second every time I turn off the screen. I saw this prob in another thread that was not answered.
I think it would really put your player cleatly ahesf of the competition! Plus I would be eternally grateful
I have a Pixel XL by the way...
Hope to hear back soon,
Andrew
andykc12 said:
am having an issue with the apps lock screen. I either can not find, or the functionality to manipulate the playback controls does not exist without taking it completely out of lock mode.
I think the app is wonderful but I think this is a major oversight. I saw posts about this same issue in 2014 and I guess you decided not to do it. The controls you have are so unique and helpful that if you could make it easier to manipulate for the those who are on the go most of the time listening to music etc. I do not want to get hit by a bus trying to mess around with the volume\shuffle options\dealing with other app windows on my phone. I hope there is something planned as far as a change may go.
One quick issue. The player pauses for a second every time I turn off the screen. I saw this prob in another thread that was not answered.
I think it would really put your player cleatly ahesf of the competition! Plus I would be eternally grateful
I have a Pixel XL by the way...
Hope to hear back soon,
Andrew
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Probably you might have disabled lock screen notification in device's settings.
Regarding pause while switching between background and foreground, it was intentionally introduced to avoid issues. Development team is already working on it. It's already planned to make it optional. Kindly be patient till they implement it.
I just purchased a 2018 Honda Accord EX that has Hondalink. The OS seems to be based on Android 6.1.1
So far Im very disappointed with the limitations of the Hondalink OS. The Driver Distraction Limitations are ridiculous. In CA it's illegal for you to hold your phone. It must be hands free. But as long as it's mounted, you are still able to use many functions as long as it's single finger touch. Regardless, I think a user/driver should be allowed choices and be held responsible if abusing those choices, like texting while driving, or watching a video while driving. But the limitations of HondaLink, coupled with AndroidAutos ridiculously small list of supported apps, it makes me wonder... WHY??? Why have this system at all? There's no app/option to watch video or browse images (even if parked) and no web browser. No Youtube. No Voxer support. Nothing. When I ask google for showtimes of a movie playing, using voice command, it gives showtimes for theaters that aren't even close to where I am when asking. Ive even tried to specify the theater when asking. Doing this only confuses it. This is a pathetic substitute for the fandango app.
Obviously I considered using the "Install App" (App Installer? sry, not in car) button. So, went on my galaxy S8+, used APK extractor, copied extracted apks to a USB jump drive, and plugged the jump drive into the car. The car recognizes the Jump Drive, and sees the apks, along with their appropriate file sizes. The apks I tested are Accuweather, ES File Explorer, Voxer, and Youtube. When I tap on one of the files, it brings up the "Install App?" dialogue box, but the button "Install" is greyed out.
Does anyone know how to get into the Developer Diagnosis page?
At the very very least, I'd like to disable the Driver Distraction Setting
Is there an android app that can be used as a substitute to Android-Auto that is a straight screen mirroring of the phone to the HondaLink Infotainment console?
i have a 2018 accord sport...i don't even get the subwoofer or the extra speakers....but using AA with my phone or just unplugging it when needed works just fine. What are you needing it to really do?
Before I go into it, please understand that I recognize that feature limitations and the "Driver Attention" lock is all meant for the safety of the driver and for others around the driver. I recognize that ultimately the road and the safety of those on the road are the priority. But i will also note that in CA, as long as the phone is mounted and not in your hand, you can pretty much do any task that only requires one finger (short of texting)
That being said, if AA allows an app, like Doubletwist, im frustrated that I cant do a simple one finger task of scrolling down a list of albums/artist/songs/playlist unless I'm at a complete stop. I've found that when I'm rolling at 2-3mph and am STILL locked out, im having to unplug my phone and look down at it to simply change playlist. When I'm going down a freeway and I'm in stop and go traffic for 15-20miles and never actually coming to a completely stop, this can be beyond frustrating. Ultimately I think that driver safety should be the drivers responsibility, and not predetermined by a company. If a driver abuses technology, then the driver needs to be accountable. It's my mission to figure out how to disable that stupid driver attention lock.
What do I want it to do? I want more than an overglorified play/pause button. Seriously. Yes it shows the name of the song and allows me to go to the next track, previous track, pause/play, but beyond that, absolutely no control. Voxer is a VERY simple one touch app. You tap to start voxing, you tap to stop. That's it, super straight forward. NOT supported. I want to be able to browse firefox, fandango, and YouTube when I'm parked.
But ultimately, I want the Android experience with full fledged apps. Android Auto pretty much just commandeers the Hond aLink infotainment screen. So just allow straight screen mirroring. That's what I "want".
Make playlists In Google play music....use your voice to change it.
Google play is nothing more than pandora and spotify. You have to select from their options. Yes, I might being "picky", but I prefer Doubletwist. It lets me sync my iTunes music and playlist. The point is, AA supports Doubletwist, but is too limited, and the "Driver Attention" lock is frustrating as heck. Besides that, AA is just too limited, too restrictive. Google/android should just do away with AA and just do straight screen mirroring. Or at least allow a 3rd party to make an app that resembles AA without so much of the limutations. It's sad that the most awesom.e feature in the best car ive had in almost 20 years is turning out to be the most pointless feature. 90% of what you can do through A you can do through Bluetooth. But I Really don't want to get a mount and make the dash look tacky. I mean, the phone mounted right next to the high infotainment screen. Jeez. More to the point, I just plain don't see why I should have to.
varxtis said:
Google play is nothing more than pandora and spotify. You have to select from their options. Yes, I might being "picky", but I prefer Doubletwist. It lets me sync my iTunes music and playlist. The point is, AA supports Doubletwist, but is too limited, and the "Driver Attention" lock is frustrating as heck. Besides that, AA is just too limited, too restrictive. Google/android should just do away with AA and just do straight screen mirroring. Or at least allow a 3rd party to make an app that resembles AA without so much of the limutations. It's sad that the most awesom.e feature in the best car ive had in almost 20 years is turning out to be the most pointless feature. 90% of what you can do through A you can do through Bluetooth. But I Really don't want to get a mount and make the dash look tacky. I mean, the phone mounted right next to the high infotainment screen. Jeez. More to the point, I just plain don't see why I should have to.
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Not sure what the doubletwist is, but I prefer using sony xperia musix (look here on xda). For youtube there is carstream app that someone made which can be used for watching youtube while driving besides parked (http://www.thekirankumar.com/blog/2017/12/29/play-youtube-video-android-auto-app/). Also, i believe there is newer android auto version which allows wireless AA but I haven't tested that yet which may help with some issues that you have.
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Not sure what the doubletwist is, but I prefer using sony xperia musix (look here on xda). For youtube there is carstream app that someone made which can be used for watching youtube while driving besides parked (http://www.thekirankumar.com/blog/2017/12/29/play-youtube-video-android-auto-app/). Also, i believe there is newer android auto version which allows wireless AA but I haven't tested that yet which may help with some issues that you have.
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Thanks I'll look into those. Presently, I just stuck a phone mount on the dash and keep everything Bluetooth. Its only taking advantage of probably 5% of the Honda-link infotainment consoles potential, and yet it's still 20x better than battling with Android Autos ridiculous limitations. Sad :\
varxtis said:
Before I go into it, please understand that I recognize that feature limitations and the "Driver Attention" lock is all meant for the safety of the driver and for others around the driver. I recognize that ultimately the road and the safety of those on the road are the priority. But i will also note that in CA, as long as the phone is mounted and not in your hand, you can pretty much do any task that only requires one finger (short of texting)
That being said, if AA allows an app, like Doubletwist, im frustrated that I cant do a simple one finger task of scrolling down a list of albums/artist/songs/playlist unless I'm at a complete stop. I've found that when I'm rolling at 2-3mph and am STILL locked out, im having to unplug my phone and look down at it to simply change playlist. When I'm going down a freeway and I'm in stop and go traffic for 15-20miles and never actually coming to a completely stop, this can be beyond frustrating. Ultimately I think that driver safety should be the drivers responsibility, and not predetermined by a company. If a driver abuses technology, then the driver needs to be accountable. It's my mission to figure out how to disable that stupid driver attention lock.
What do I want it to do? I want more than an overglorified play/pause button. Seriously. Yes it shows the name of the song and allows me to go to the next track, previous track, pause/play, but beyond that, absolutely no control. Voxer is a VERY simple one touch app. You tap to start voxing, you tap to stop. That's it, super straight forward. NOT supported. I want to be able to browse firefox, fandango, and YouTube when I'm parked.
But ultimately, I want the Android experience with full fledged apps. Android Auto pretty much just commandeers the Hond aLink infotainment screen. So just allow straight screen mirroring. That's what I "want".
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To unlock the driver attention thing you need to hold the home, power, and source button for bout 10 seconds then click on the detail information & setting screen and from there hold home button again for 10 seconds and then click on the vehicle model information and turn off the DD VSP ERROR and that should do it. However everytime you turn off your car it resets and you have to do it all over again.