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Ok, I have bridged a connection from my laptop (xp pro) to my Xbox 360 with a crossover cable. I have my ppc 6800 mogul tethered to the laptop to provide the internet with ICS. Here is my problem... When I test everything out, I get a NAT setting of "moderate". I need to get the NAT settings "open" in order for it to work correctly. I have played like this for the past couple of days, but I have to have one of my friends invite me anytime that I want to play.
Do you think that it is my phone is the problem, or the laptop? I wish I could just get cable or dsl, but it's not available in my area.
Any help welcome!
Thanks!
Honestly I'm shocked you are trying to do this at all. All the XBOX people I know won't even use a router because of lag.
yeah i don't think using the internet connection from your cell phone could be expected to fully support the bandwidth required to run xbox live...
skanndelus said:
yeah i don't think using the internet connection from your cell phone could be expected to fully support the bandwidth required to run xbox live...
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Microsoft requires 256 down and 64 up. I have supplied 1.5 down and 144 up. The only thing that I seem to be having a problem with is a little bit of lag (150 to 250ms). My real issue is the ability to connect to others to join in a session. That is where my NAT settings come into play. If you have a moderate or strict setting, it is almost impossible to join in.
that's pretty near... i would have never thought it could support it... awesome
dont understand what you mean only because i dont have a 360 but i have done this before.
Just replace the ps2 for 360 and the wifi connection for the cell connection. Not saying it will help but maybe something will. it may have things that you didn't do.
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This won't work.
ATT and most providers data networks uses NAT.
This means your phone gets an address like 10.0.42.123 in ATT's cellular network -- and has a public IP of e.g. 64.2.3.2.
Obviously this is NAT -- and it of course is not in a DMZ, nor does it have port forwarding for XBOX live to your cell's IP.
From wikipedia:
In computer networking, Network Address Translation (NAT, also known as Network Masquerading, Native Address Translation or IP Masquerading) is a technique of transceiving network traffic through a router that involves re-writing the source and/or destination IP addresses and usually also the TCP/UDP port numbers of IP packets as they pass through.
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Drawbacks
Hosts behind NAT-enabled routers do not have true end-to-end connectivity and cannot participate in some Internet protocols. Services that require the initiation of TCP connections from the outside network, or stateless protocols such as those using UDP, can be disrupted. Unless the NAT router makes a specific effort to support such protocols, incoming packets cannot reach their destination. Some protocols can accommodate one instance of NAT between participating hosts ("passive mode" FTP, for example), sometimes with the assistance of an Application Layer Gateway (see below), but fail when both systems are separated from the Internet by NAT.
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You can call your provider and ask them to open port forwarding, but they won't know what you're talking about -- and since they give DHCP leases the port forward rules would only be temporary anyways. Besides, that would cause serious issues for everyone on their network if they forwarded a port for you. (E.G. Any inbound port request would go to you, disrupting service for other customers.)
I doubt gameplay would be usable over 3G or EVDO anyways.
DUDE! i have been tryin 360+Mogul
i have been tryin and tryin... took my 360 apart tryin some mods. still... ONLY can connect my Xbox 360... to my laptop... which is connected online by my mogul Via WifiRouter-3g to-Usb. WHY cant someone figure out HOW... and Make it available to DIRECTLY CONNECT XBOX 360 ONLINE THROUGH POCKET PC INTERNET SHARING?!?!?! i know i dont have the knowledge... but somone does.... WM5torage... im sure you have heard of it...? it is a strong base.. when i connect my phone to 360 with that app runnin... my 360 thinks about it for min... then decides it wont recognise it...im outta ideas... somone....
IMAGINE THE POSSIBILITIES!!! modify an xbox 360 shell.. and a small laptop screen with xbox harddrive/with a small computer all in one... lay xbox on lap.. flip open the lid.. wireless keyboard and internet.... whoa...
HA my idea has been posted... anyone does it ill sue... jk... kinda.
OH and by the way..
this setup... mogul-wifirouter-3g-usb... usb to pc...pc...eithernet-xbox3sexy... i will dominate all. cod4-BattleField2ModernCombat and bad company lag? whats that
I was wondering if its possible to use wifi tether to connect to a ps3?
Because I tried but my ps3 won't run.
i googled it a while back got it to semi work but never fully functional you cant auto detect the settings have to manually put them in
same thing for xbox 360, I've tried wireless and wired (bridge over pc) tethering in the past, fails at NAT (network address translation)
To be honest, I have no idea why you would try. Even under the best 3G conditions, any game would have a high risk of lagging hardcore. I can see if there is no internet, so bummer, but I don't think it would be very playable.
--Matt
27s said:
To be honest, I have no idea why you would try. Even under the best 3G conditions, any game would have a high risk of lagging hardcore. I can see if there is no internet, so bummer, but I don't think it would be very playable.
--Matt
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I've played several games over 3G on laptop... it's not *quite* as bad as you'd think, with a good signal, it just depends on what games you're playing... just don't go around expecting to play any massive multiplayer first person shooters over 3g
Joecrack305 said:
i googled it a while back got it to semi work but never fully functional you cant auto detect the settings have to manually put them in
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can we get more details on this?
AFAIK PS3 does not support ad-hoc wireless networking. The PSP certainly doesn't...
Not really considered adhoc tethering. Should work if you know the proper setting for the PS3. Physically I guess it is adhoc but the PS3 should recognize the Hero as regular access point... so technically it's not.
I was a PS3 technician at SCEA.
So since I don't have any Wifi to connect to I've got the pc tethered to pc. i'm sharing it's internet connection.
confused as what exactly for manual settings i need to enter xbox side? or what further configuration pc side?
Anyone know how to get hero to serve as a hotspot rather than an adhoc network? I can do it with the new version of wifi tether on my evo, but not the hero. I've tried a dozen different versions and setups.
Also, for those who think its too slow; I play modern warfare online all the time with evo 3g connection with no issue. Also stream justin tv and ps store movies. May just be a reception issue for some.
adelaney said:
Anyone know how to get hero to serve as a hotspot rather than an adhoc network? I can do it with the new version of wifi tether on my evo, but not the hero. I've tried a dozen different versions and setups.
Also, for those who think its too slow; I play modern warfare online all the time with evo 3g connection with no issue. Also stream justin tv and ps store movies. May just be a reception issue for some.
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Infrastructure mode is now being supported for certain devices if you go to the google code site for wireless tether for root users. I can't say for sure whether it works for the Hero or not, though.
What I do is with my w7 laptop, I have an ethernet cord running from the laptop to my ps3 or xbox, whatever I decide to play. I have my hero flashed with dc 1.2(?) for the correct PRI to do mobile network sharing, then I connect my hero, turn on MNS< bridge the connections, and I game online (all the time) and have a rare lag here and there, and an occasional boot, but nothing to get pissed over. it's a blast, really!
3G wifi Tethering without laptop
I tryed to connect my PS3 wiresly to my Tilt 2 using but it never seems to find it. I dont have a computer and 3G WiFi on my cellphone is all i got. Any tips to get a Tilt 2 wiresly connected to a PS3?
Wireless Tether for Root Users creates an Ad-Hoc network, which the PS3 can't identify.
Sadly the only way to do it IS to have an internet connection to the computer and set up a public network via wifi.
Edit: Overlooked the ethernet cable method, my mistake.
jerry43812 said:
Infrastructure mode is now being supported for certain devices if you go to the google code site for wireless tether for root users. I can't say for sure whether it works for the Hero or not, though.
What I do is with my w7 laptop, I have an ethernet cord running from the laptop to my ps3 or xbox, whatever I decide to play. I have my hero flashed with dc 1.2(?) for the correct PRI to do mobile network sharing, then I connect my hero, turn on MNS< bridge the connections, and I game online (all the time) and have a rare lag here and there, and an occasional boot, but nothing to get pissed over. it's a blast, really!
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This is exactly what i do but with winXP. I get some lag every now and then but multiplayer is surprisingly very playable over 3g.
adelaney said:
Anyone know how to get hero to serve as a hotspot rather than an adhoc network? I can do it with the new version of wifi tether on my evo, but not the hero. I've tried a dozen different versions and setups.
Also, for those who think its too slow; I play modern warfare online all the time with evo 3g connection with no issue. Also stream justin tv and ps store movies. May just be a reception issue for some.
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I think the Hero is missing certain drivers that can only support an actual hotspot connection rather than ad-hoc.
I have a Sprint hero and just want to say it is possibly to play online using the wifi tether. Though ive only done it on the xbox 360 but see no reason why you wouldnt be able to do it on the ps3. You connect as if it were a router and thats it!! I only had two bars and still played MW2.. just try it
dwigginstm can u explain how u do it?
I try that already it dont really work for me, you really need to get good signal if you going to connect wifitethering if the signal strong it might be picked up on ps3. But if you connect to ps3 with wifitether your game that you playing might lag cause of connection from your phone
Well has the title says, I connected my Android phone to my xbox 360, but the question is whats your experience, doing this. Do you get lags, cause sometimes, I do. Can you connect to party mode or invite people to game match, cause i can only do this with specific people, (I guess because of their internet speed), and is there any hints of getting better online play experince.
I dont have answer to your ? but, how do you connect your phone to the xbox360 and can you use your phone like a controller IE: to move through the menu?
I connected my laptop to my HTC inspire by using its WiFi Hotspot, then afterwards I connect my xbox 360 to my laptop by using Ethernet Cable, and to set it up, go to "Control Panel" > "Network and Internet" > "Network and Sharing Center" > "Manage Network Connections" and when your there, highlight both connection icons (One most likely be called "local Area Connection") thats represents your Xbox 360, and (other is Wireless Network Connection") that represents your HTC internet. When both are highlighted right click and choose the Bridge Connections. When that is complete go into your xbox and test your connection and your done.
And the phone controller, im not fully sure what you mean?
i really cant imagine xbox live would be anything more than crappy using a tethered internet connection from your mobile phone. perhaps im wrong but id use a more reliable internet connection.
JoLuGuad said:
I connected my laptop to my HTC inspire by using its WiFi Hotspot, then afterwards I connect my xbox 360 to my laptop by using Ethernet Cable, and to set it up, go to "Control Panel" > "Network and Internet" > "Network and Sharing Center" > "Manage Network Connections" and when your there, highlight both connection icons (One most likely be called "local Area Connection") thats represents your Xbox 360, and (other is Wireless Network Connection") that represents your HTC internet. When both are highlighted right click and choose the Bridge Connections. When that is complete go into your xbox and test your connection and your done.
And the phone controller, im not fully sure what you mean?
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I seen some where on here that some user were able to use their phone to control the wii but not sure which phone, but What I was thinking was using my phone to move through the dash board of xbox rather then using the controller
CRYRAXDroid said:
I seen some where on here that some user were able to use their phone to control the wii but not sure which phone, but What I was thinking was using my phone to move through the dash board of xbox rather then using the controller
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you can connect a wii remote to your android phone to play your nes, snes, gba, n64 and etc, (You can find it had a app from the market) But it didnt work with my phone.
Using it has a remote to scroll around your xbox, is not posssible or maybe for now.
JoLuGuad said:
Well has the title says, I connected my Android phone to my xbox 360, but the question is whats your experience, doing this. Do you get lags, cause sometimes, I do. . . . and is there any hints of getting better online play experince.
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My experience was, for the most part, laggy. But there were definitely times when I could play online lag-free. I've had entire sessions (more than a couple of hours) where it was entirely smooth as if I was on a traditional router.
As for improved online play experience, that solely depends on speeds. As your data speeds increase, so will your online play experience.
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My experience was, for the most part, laggy. But there were definitely times when I could play online lag-free. I've had entire sessions (more than a couple of hours) where it was entirely smooth as if I was on a traditional router.
As for improved online play experience, that solely depends on speeds. As your data speeds increase, so will your online play experience.
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thanks, i really wanted to get an idea about how other people experince this. Its the same thing for me, lol
JoLuGuad said:
Well has the title says, I connected my Android phone to my xbox 360, but the question is whats your experience, doing this. Do you get lags, cause sometimes, I do. Can you connect to party mode or invite people to game match, cause i can only do this with specific people, (I guess because of their internet speed), and is there any hints of getting better online play experince.
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I do this on a daily basis. I don't have to much trouble with it. I do have Moderate NAT and sometimes I hit huge lag spikes and get lagged out of the game. But it works okay for the most part.
I am trying to get the PS4 Remote Play ap / feature to work better. I have changed my PS4 to DMZplus mode so that it shows nat type 1 / open. I changed the wireless channel from 2 to 9 to clear up any possible congestion there. One interesting thing I noticed on the settings menu of the ap, is you can check the nat type presumably of the phone, because my phone shows nat type 3 in that settings menu, but I show nat type 1 on the actual ps4 network settings and connection test.
Anyway this is super frustrating and completely disapointing. I feel so dumb. I changed wireless providers from AT&T to T-Mobile basically for this phone and the PS4 remote play integration, and myself and many others cant get it to work reliably like it does on PS Vita.
I am using AT&T Uverse for my home network, with a Pace 5031NV gateway from AT&T.
Anyone have any magic tricks to get PS4 Remote Play to work stable as advertized?
HappyGreg said:
I am trying to get the PS4 Remote Play ap / feature to work better. I have changed my PS4 to DMZplus mode so that it shows nat type 1 / open. I changed the wireless channel from 2 to 9 to clear up any possible congestion there. One interesting thing I noticed on the settings menu of the ap, is you can check the nat type presumably of the phone, because my phone shows nat type 3 in that settings menu, but I show nat type 1 on the actual ps4 network settings and connection test.
Anyway this is super frustrating and completely disapointing. I feel so dumb. I changed wireless providers from AT&T to T-Mobile basically for this phone and the PS4 remote play integration, and myself and many others cant get it to work reliably like it does on PS Vita.
I am using AT&T Uverse for my home network, with a Pace 5031NV gateway from AT&T.
Anyone have any magic tricks to get PS4 Remote Play to work stable as advertized?
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Try channel 6 for wireless. It's better. Not sure about the rest though as I haven't tried remote play yet :good:
Cool, I will try that. What is different about wireless channel 6 though ?
I get pretty damn good remote play on my device/network here are my tips. (some people may argue that some of these are "irrelevant" but if your getting bad experiences, they are worth a shot?)
1. Plug your PS4 in to the router via Ethernet this improved my remote play buy a TON it went from barely playable to working perfectly. In all honesty the PS4 was shipped with such a crappy WiFi card , google "PS4 Wifi card" and the top results are all post about how they suck.
2. This one im not 100% sure about, however i know that my Download speeds on the connection test improve ALOT when I do this.
Dont connect using "easy connect" and for your DNS use a google dns like 8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4. I went from download speeds of 5gigs down to 30+
However, Im pretty sure if your on the same network, the speed of your internet doesn't matter so if you have a good router you should be set to go. If you only have been trying it with your PS4 on wifi. Plug it in, I promise you will notice!
If your playing from outside the network, well you need a pretty decent upload speed on what your ps4 is hooked up to. You most likely will not have a good experience from a mobile network. I have FIOS at home and I play from my office which has a Wireless AC connection and FIOS and I can remote play like a dream but when I go to my friends house who has XFINITY and some ISP provided netgear router, the experience is less optimal, still playable to an extent but not nearly as smooth.
sorry for the wall of text! Hope this helps.
I have unlimited high speed data with T-Mobile but only 7GB mobile hotspot. I just moved into a brand new apartment and could buy DSL (yuck) right now, or wait for them to run the cables so I can get cable internet. Only problem is the cables won't be ready for over a month. So a month without internet.
I want to tether to my PC to make a hotspot for my phone, xbox, and other devices. I have tried quite a few things so I'll list them. I have an HTC 2PST2 and I've tried to root it, but since it's new and not too popular no one has made a root for it (that i know of, if you know one let me know).
1. PdaNet+ works with wifi, but it doesn't hide my tether usage when I'm on wifi. So after the 7GB is slows down to 125 kb/s. Before I hit the data ceiling my other devices were getting 20down/12up. I used it to play Xbox Live and it worked perfectly. I could talk to people in party and play multiplayer. Once I ran out of data I tethered my phone to my Xbox and ran detailed network statistics check and it was 0.1down/0.1up like I expected.
2. What I've been doing now is using ClockworkMod to usb tether. When I do a speed test on my computer my speed is 20down/12up. So the computer is fine. The problem is when I try to share it.
3. If I share (sharing by going into network settings & sharing in windows 7) my internet to my Xbox with an ethernet cable I can get on Xbox Live. I can do solo missions on Destiny, but if I try anything with matchmaking it never finds anyone (strict NAT). If I do find someone for a Strike (3 people) it is extremely laggy and I usually end up disconnecting. I also can't get into parties on Xbox. I would give you the speeds, but everytime I try to run a detailed network statistics check it never returns anything.
4. If I use connectify-me to make my computer a hotspot I'm getting 20down/12up on my PC, but 1down/2up when I check the speed on my iphone. I can't test on my Xbox, but it connects to live, but I think the connection is just too slow like when I was on 125kbs with PdaNet.
5. If I make an ad hoc network I get 3down/2up on my phone, but ad hoc shows up as a device and not a network so my Xbox can't connect to it.
So, with all of that knowledge, keep in mind I can't root. How can I use my phones data to play Xbox live like I did with PdaNet before I hit the data limit? If I can make a hotspot where the device is getting 5down/5up I think that would work too. Any help is much appriciated.