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normal, mute and vibrate switch on wm6

Ok, I'm a newbie in wm6 world after year of simple wm2003 without phone. I'm looking for a "simple" icon on my today screen (actually I'm on spb pocket plus but it doesn't matter) to switch between normal, mute and vibrate ring.. Can you point me to the right direction? Wm6 doesn't have it by default? How is this possible? It's a BASIC function...

nobody need this function?

you dont mention what device you use or what rom
but my wm6 rom have a perfectly nomral access to
normal sound, vibrate and silent

i have a touchXL but I was hoping that this switch was a basic and device indipendent feature, a link somewhere to mute/unmute the ringer... Sounds strange?
Btw I found spb phone suite that have exactly what I'm looking for, a shortcut on today to mute/unmute/vibrate despite to go to settings-> telephone.Now I'm happy
tnx you anyway ,)

Ring Tones - frustration. Help / advice please

Hello,
I've had several previous generations of HTC devices, and never really got to grips with Ring Tones / Vibration / Ring Volume. I had high hopes that WM6 would have sorted the mess out by now (my last PDA was WM2003).
What I really want from the phone part of my PDA is to be able to consistently and simply do the following (based on an O2 Orbit 2, UK)
1) Choose my ring Tone (ideally starting a little quietly and then rising in volume)
2) Set the ring Tone to Ring & Vibrate.
3) when in meetings / cinema / church etc. quickly set just to vibrate
4) after the meeting quickly set back to Ring & Vibrate
(Personally I have no use for zero ring volume combined with vibration off.)
5) as a final customisation, I'd like to be able to set different ringtones for different calling numbers.
This is what I've done so far:
First I used the O2 "sounds & notifications" profile on the home screen.
This integrates nicely with the volume slider button on the LHS of the orbit - BUT it appears to have a few problems:
a) you can't choose custom ringtones
b) you can't have a rising ring tone with vibrate
I created a custom rising ringtone by editing a small MP3 so that it starts quietly and rises in volume over about 25 seconds. Placed this in "My Ringtones" directory in "My Documents". Then had to read the phone handbook (always a last resort) to see how to set this mp3 as my ringtone. The answer is that the "my ringtones" tones are not selectable under "sounds & notifications", instead you have to open up the phone dialer app, select menu, options, then you can select your custom ringtone.
Unfortunately, every time you subsequently use "sounds and notifications" to select, for example, the "meeting" profile, or the "silent profile", you lose the custom ringtones - so you can't simply put the phone on vibrate, and then back to normal without then having to go back to the phone dialer, menu options etc.
surely there must be a simple way around this? every non PDA phone I've ever used has this sort of thing down as a straightforward essential tool.
Hopefully someone out there can either show me the obvious step that I'm missing, or point me in the directions of some 3rd party (preferably free) software that manages this task.
Thanks in advance
Roy.

1. The ringtones can be in the windows, windows/Rings, My documents (not subfolder), storage card (root).
2. On the phone settings tab, there is an option to set it to 'Vibrate and Ring'.
3. You can use the HTC Home screen (free, and included in original Polaris, but can be found here) or some other 3rd party app like SPB Phone Suite (not free).
4. Same, or setting up "busy" events in the calendar, and setting the HTC Home screen for atomatic.
5. Check your options on the contact details page.
For the increasing ringtone, there isn't a better workaround then what you did.

I had exactly the same problem; this is my first non-Nokia, and I've always loved the quick access to "profiles".
From a recommendation on here, I now use pocketzenphone, which is fantastic.
I've got a row of five icons under the HTC home, to change profile. Each profile can change so many things, I don't use 20% of it! I just change ringtones and volumes.
It's free to try, and I think £10 or so to buy if you like it.

Program idea/Suggestion: Stop SMS tone/Vibrate with keypress

hi.. i was thinking of something that may be of use regarding stopping SMS tone sound/vibrate via keypress (or assigned key) or screentap..
maybe if we could have a background program that monitors incoming SMS.. when an SMS comes in, it plays the selected sms tone and/or vibrate - but at the same time, captures all buttons (or an assigned key perhaps - like games) and/or screen areas so that it continues to play the song only if any of these actions (button press or tap) are made -in which the background program will stop the tone and or vibration it is playing..
the thing is, there is really no way of stoping any notification because it is handled by the OS itself..
so, maybe one of the initial requirements for this idea to fully work is to disable the native SMS Sound (and vibrate) notification so that the OS will do nothing upon an incoming SMS.. (it can be done so by unchecking the play sound and vibrate boxes in the incoming text message section of the Sounds and Notifications Settings)
so the SMS notification function (sound and vibrate) will be fully handled by the proposed program suggestion..
imagine it like this..
it is like having a background media player with just 1 song in its playlist and that is your SMS alert tone..
it stays in the background, invisible, but it monitors the sms notification database.
if an incoming SMS (or email whatever) is detected, it starts to play the song in the playlist once..
it then takes control over all physical input controls in the device (buttons, scrolls, volume sliders, touchscreen) - ala buttons locking program - in which all of the input controls are assigned as a STOP playing function..
so when you press a button (or tap the screen whatsoever) the program will stop the background music, unlock all buttons to it's normal functions and returns to the background - awaiting another incoming SMS..
another analogy can be made is that it is like an alarm clock program, it stays in the background, but instead of waiting for a time to strike before activating the alarm, it waits for an incoming SMS (or email whatsoever).. and like alarm programs, it will become activated from the background (so that it will become the top/active window/program) and takes control of the hardware buttons and the screentaps (some alarm programs do this so you can stop the alarm with any button or screen tap).. then after dismissing the alarm, it returns to the background and once again wait.. the only difference is, the active window of this program is invisible, meaning, no visible window will be imposed in the screen (only the title bar will change i presume)..
it sounds simple enough.. but i'm no programmer and i don't have any idea if even half of what i said can easily be done..
i just know that these things can be done because such things have already been done or is a part of exsisting programs.
like detecting incoming SMS (can be done by scripting, or have been done by SMS-like programs)
making a program that resides in the background
making a program that is invisible (not detectable by task manager and has no visible window) even if active
and of course music playback and vibration control (aside from media players most of these are alarm programs)
i hope this can help.. and someone can develop a little program from the idea..
thanks..
here is some reference/source code on detecting incoming SMS .. i don't know if it works because i can't read .net and progy stuff.. but i hope it can help
http://twit88.com/blog/2008/03/03/net-detect-incoming-call-or-sms-in-windows-mobile-phone/
http://www.devx.com/wireless/Article/32305/1954

anyone?
guess programmers are busy.. hehehe..

It's more like nobody's interested.
Though I do kinda miss it when my Nokia stops playing the alert/vibrate when I press a button.. but I'm already ok with it right now.
I just make short alert tones 3 - 5 seconds long.
Ok lang yan pre, mga tao kasi dito ayaw ng may additional background services pa dahil every byte of memory counts. Unless kaya talaga nila baguhin ung notification dll, they won't be interested.

I actually wouldnt mind this as well! Although im not a ppc programmer or anything.
But i cant assign a longer sms tone (The one that goes "Message....Message...Message....") and as it goes longer it slowly goes louder and louder.
Love that sms tone but i cant put it on because i cant stop it by pressing a button - which you could do with normal phones.
Im keen to support and this project if anyone takes it!
(Im glad i wasnt the only person who wanted this!)

thanks for the support guys.. upping this again, hoping that some good programmer can spare some time..
yeah.. i really miss the "normal" phone/notification behavior of other Mobile OS..
the problem is so basic that the big annoyance and inconvinience can't easily be tolerated..
it's been a problem ever since people started using a WM phone (and i've been using WM phones for almost 5 years now)..
they say, just assign shorter tones.. but that is not the point.. doing so is not really a solution.. it is more likely tolerating the problem and adding another problem..
the problem with assigning short SMS tones is that you are limited only to short ones (which is a rarity these days), and most of the times the old school cheesy ones..
cropping and converting tones (mostly from mp3 songs) to shorter ones need a PC (or a special in phone program), which is a hassle all the time.. you can't even download and immediately use tone contents off the web/wap/carrier or use tones sent from other people's phones.. you always need to shorten it up so it won't play infinitely when receiving a text message..
@kabayan da vinci.. mahirap talaga maging iba sa nokia country.. hehe..

up again for someone to notice.. hehe..

up again..

Guess no one really wants this except you and myself ytsejam_....haha...

i don't really get it.. it is an OS/Phone function and SHOULD be given attention.. and should have been so, decades ago.. but people are just plain gaga about skinning and all apps and stuff nowadays are centered on making our WMs into iphones (instead of solving OS problems)..
the basic problems and functions already ignored..
well.. just my 2 cents.. i'm also grateful for the nice skin and plugin apps made in this forum.. and much respect for those people..
and.. please.. no flaming thanks

up again..

Upped, has anyone found an alternative or anything?

Hi, just come across this thread. My Samsung Omnia CAN stop the sound/vibration on incoming SMS by pressing the hang button, dunno if other PPC/PDA's will behave the same way
Btw, my old Nokia 6280 worked exactly the same way, just pressing the hang button

this would be realllly nice.. i just want a normal music ringtone that doesnt have to play for 30 seconds everytime i get a text

sphinxy said:
Guess no one really wants this except you and myself ytsejam_....haha...
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hey i want this too... its kinda irritating me u see. i have msg tone which is about 10seconds i cant wait that long to read a msg hehehe so everytime when the SMS tone i playing i read a msg while its playing the nexttime a msg comes the sound does not play at all. So im supporting this one hoping someone could do something with this..

maybe if there was a way to play 2 tones but the second would be silent n play when u open a message that might stop the first tone

Up 1. I support this idea too. It's kinda irritating when u in some meeting or conferences while u forget to silent up ur phone. The tone will keep ringing until it end. Me myself met this situation b4 and the bad experience still irritating me... XD

ytsejam_ : Based from your handle, you must've wanted to assign a Dream Theater song as your text tone... That's why you thought of this... Hehehe!
BTT: I support this idea, as well...

I hadn´t look the full API searching for a solution for there problem, but I imagine that there´s now way stop the SO playing a sound after he started. What could happen is to turn-off all the SO notifications for SMS and use another program to show this notifications... then in this new program includes an option to stop play the sms tone...
Testing in my HTC Touch... when I use the hardware button for setting volume... it stop vibration and playing sound for calls and sms incoming...

some idea
i noticed that you can stop the long sms alert by navigating to sounds & notifications - sms tone , and press stop button ■. maybe someone can find the source code to relate this touch button press to hardware button in order to stop the tones.

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sms alert

I have subscribed to a monitoring service which send me alerts via sms. I want that if I received a sms from a particular number then a different sms tone will sound or a file will execute etc so that I can differentiate that the message I received is important.
any way to accomplish it?

I have the same situation and would also be interested in a solution for this.
Is there somewhere we can submit suggestions to MS for inclusion of this in a future 6.5.1 revision? It would be easy to add surely and another nice feature that iphone, android etc. don't have.
Not tried it yet, but looks like this might do it: http://qorefunctions.com/
OK tried that and don't like it. It's not seeming to show all my contacts and the limit on the sound is 15 seconds, whereas I want an mp3 of a few minutes to play.
So back to the drawing board.
Done more research and trialling this: http://ringomo.com/windows.php
Seems to work well so far and cheaper than the other one too.

Biffy said:
I have the same situation and would also be interested in a solution for this.
Is there somewhere we can submit suggestions to MS for inclusion of this in a future 6.5.1 revision? It would be easy to add surely and another nice feature that iphone, android etc. don't have.
Not tried it yet, but looks like this might do it: http://qorefunctions.com/
OK tried that and don't like it. It's not seeming to show all my contacts and the limit on the sound is 15 seconds, whereas I want an mp3 of a few minutes to play.
So back to the drawing board.
Done more research and trialling this: http://ringomo.com/windows.php
Seems to work well so far and cheaper than the other one too.
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I tried it on my Samsung Jack i637 stock rom and in less than 10 minutes I uninstalled that ringo crap. It messed my profile up. Wish there was something light weight that doesn't screw with the contacts and profiles so much.

How did it mess your profile up? Not had any problems yet, although I am getting a funny 'ding' sound play when my phone wakes up before the proper text alert sound plays.

SMS!Alert
Hi,
SMS!Alert work perfect for it.
SMS!Alert allow you to create custom alerts based on SMS messages, enter a incoming phone number and/or keyword filter, when someone sends a SMS with the keyword filter text or if incoming phone number matches, phone will display sound alert.
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smsalert

a way to use multiple sounds for calandar items?

Hi,
I use my phone (htc touch diamond) as a alarm to get up in the morning, but also to remind realy everything during the day. my problem is, when i set an good iritating tone to get up, that same tone iritates other people during the day hearing my reminders, otherwise, when i schould set an sweeter tone for my reminders, i wont wake up from it.
does anyone knows a way, or if not, and program, how i could use multiple sounds for reminders. best would be when i get an extra field in my standard windows calander with the choise of the sound...
Bart

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I use the Touch Pro 2 calendar for many things including medication reminders, but I need different sounds for different reminder too.
Hopefully someone can help.
grymcent